Attributes DON'T MATTER on NBA 2K25?

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  • Опубликовано: 17 дек 2024

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  • @UnmereMortal
    @UnmereMortal 2 дня назад +60

    "after all, basketball is a game of inches, so the gaps may not look big visually, but those gaps there still really matter"
    perfectly said, Tutes. even tho the gaps between attributes are actually bigger in 2K than in real life, most of the community is unsatisfied for some reason. even irl, the difference between a 36% spot up shooter and a 40% spot up shooter is 12 extra points per 100 possessions. and then you compare that 40% spot up to Stephen Curry, who shoots a career 43% on mostly off the dribble and movement threes from about 27 feet on average, and the gap between their impact on winning becomes wider than the grand canyon. and yet, 2K players are unsatisfied with shooting 55% on left right spam threes. i dont get it.

    • @nba2ktutes
      @nba2ktutes  2 дня назад +5

      Those are really good points!

    • @NesianStudios
      @NesianStudios 2 дня назад +1

      It's the difference between getting a dunk off too. Forwards with high speed and agility and low strength get dunks off. Also pick n roll is split second quick equals better box out positioning.
      I don't think full court speed tests r as helpful as role playing application.
      Such as testing speed for guards out of a speed Boost and measuring that.
      Testing forwards out of a pick n roll and measure that.
      Just my thoughts anyways

    • @iakifilodo941
      @iakifilodo941 2 дня назад +5

      I’m convinced Ppl that play this game just like to hate on it and don’t actually know basketball

    • @UnmereMortal
      @UnmereMortal 2 дня назад +8

      @@iakifilodo941 tbh 2K is not a good product, there are plenty of flaws. But this year the balance in gameplay feels better than any other 2K. The main problem is and always will be that it's an animation based game instead of engine based. Also, badges are a terrible concept. It's a lazy, yet counterintuitive way to not add more attribute types. 2K, while they have been making strides towards realism, also always play into what hypebeast cheesers want. it's like their little fetish. thats why they hide shit like quick drops off one and steve francis crossover behind rep levels.

    • @NesianStudios
      @NesianStudios 2 дня назад +4

      @@UnmereMortal I agree it's based on animations and finding loop holes like the L2 cancel speed boosts.
      Badges are counterintuitive and should be adjusted.
      When I'm getting out boxed, rebounded and dunked on by a 7ft with 50 strength because they've found a loop hole build it's so frustrating, and on the other hand I'm out rebounding and dunking on a 96 strength, 84 ID, ilat that point I just count myself lucky that game tbh.
      I think each role should have unique badges for their roles so it encourages more team play vrs ISO builds which makes the game so unrealistic and encourages greedy ball hoggers and I usually quit those games and I'm the one that gets penalised with a 30min ban?? Yeah nah!
      E.g PG are the only build that can access certain handle specials and take overs
      Animations are all over the place. Certain bases even tho less stats give you better consistent animations which is loop holed.
      I dunno, there just a lot of fundamental things they haven't got right as they're putting focus on new tech and gameplay etc when they haven't mastered the fundamentals

  • @jwright402
    @jwright402 2 дня назад +38

    The game changes are annoying! One season the stick gives a advantage with shooting the next they patch it and the stick is the same as button shooting!

    • @Spawnamvs
      @Spawnamvs 2 дня назад +5

      Thats not true at all. Stick shooting is still nuch better, but the improvement to button shooting just made button shooting more consistent

    • @Joe-x3p9i
      @Joe-x3p9i 2 дня назад +3

      @@Spawnamvs no its not stick is delayed af still

    • @Spawnamvs
      @Spawnamvs 2 дня назад +1

      @Joe-x3p9i I believe they fixed the delay on stick shooting, but that aside. Stick shooting still provides a larger boost to shooting. It used to be a 70% boost (according to others). May be closer to 50% or something now

    • @Joe-x3p9i
      @Joe-x3p9i 2 дня назад +3

      @Spawnamvs they didn't fix it now it just happens at random times instead of Everytime

    • @EnigmaEcho42
      @EnigmaEcho42 2 дня назад +2

      The goal is to get you to spend more money on a new build

  • @blAZinSports4k
    @blAZinSports4k 2 дня назад +11

    They matter most when your put up against an opponent, then the algorithms kick in, and it determines which moves / animations are going to happen. Online play has been broken since it came out. Idk why people are confused about the inconsistencies. I strictly play SP. I don't have these ridiculous inconsistencies I keep hearing about especially in rebounding and shooting, that's all latency. It's just exaggerated this year because of the computations the game has to do with 10,000 new animations. Funny how ppl don't understand the way the internet works

    • @TrillWorld09
      @TrillWorld09 2 дня назад +2

      All these yrs and 2k still can't make the servers better. It's insane

    • @bacmup605
      @bacmup605 2 дня назад +11

      Somebody who strictly plays single player 2k in 2024 is giving us a lecture about online play lol. It's not the "internet" it's the company and devs. They invite people out to give feedback prior to launch and don't listen to them. Half the badges don't work properly, so they either patch it to the dirt or completely break it,, motion style animations make people with 5, 6, etc. speed more than the next person run slower. It's not latency, it's the actual game. Even the shooting, it's literally RNG lmfao.

    • @Loading733
      @Loading733 2 дня назад +2

      You don’t even know what the internet is but you ranting lmao

  • @bambon5568
    @bambon5568 2 дня назад +4

    I think the problem of attribute upgrades not doing much comes back to VC pricing. We wouldn't mind a +1 upgrade not doing much if we could get 5 with the VC we get from one game. Instead it's more like saving up for 5 games just to get one +1 upgrade at higher attribute levels

  • @kuruptzZz
    @kuruptzZz 2 дня назад +8

    3pt rating definitely matters. I have 2 6'10 PF, one 80 3pt and one 86 3pt, and it's way easier to green on the higher rating. Badges are the same

    • @Ok12131
      @Ok12131 2 дня назад

      Interesting. I have a 6"6 sf with 83 3 and 89 mid and a 6"3 pg with 84 mid 94 three and I can green spot ups way more consistently with the sf which makes no sense at all. My sf jumpshot is also somehow faster than my pg jumpshot.

    • @bonystickmanking1250
      @bonystickmanking1250 2 дня назад +2

      ​@Ok12131 bro then change the jumpshot 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @raqciti430
    @raqciti430 2 дня назад +2

    Like tutes said. It's a game of inches. Being a single step ahead of your defender is the difference between you blowing by them or getting walled up.
    Look at the shooting. If you're 30% from 3 you're average. Bump that number up by just 10% and you're elite with the likes of Steph Curry.
    Athletes are so physically peaked out that just the slightest set of advantages makes the difference between you being a bench player or an all-star. Same goes for 2k.

  • @CuriousMike16
    @CuriousMike16 2 дня назад +2

    The patch notes mentioned a weighted average for success rates on layups a few patches ago. Wouldn't that mean that they probably applied this to multiple areas making the individual attributes seem worthless but the combination of attributes really making the noticable difference?

  • @deejay205
    @deejay205 15 часов назад +1

    Can you do a test on how much boost lethal zones actually give you. Sometimes it feels like I shoot worse in my lethal zones than my hot zones.

  • @PlumGod
    @PlumGod 2 дня назад +7

    “At this point in the games cycle”. The Christmas rush of players hasn’t even happened yet.

  • @RETROESKIMO3ATC
    @RETROESKIMO3ATC 2 дня назад +1

    It’s the badges that matter you can have a 99 attribute but if that badge is bronze you don’t have the favourable animations with that badge, this is the problem for paying for your build to a 99 overall it allows you to unlock the badges but if you were to grind the badges (I know god forbid) you’d notice as you also grind the attributes but the game is not fun enough to have this as an option it’s a marketing ploy they know what they are doing

  • @PeculiarCrowns
    @PeculiarCrowns 2 дня назад +3

    Haven’t watched the vid yet, but i literally had the same thought as the title a few days ago. 99 close shot with legend paint prodigy is the same as 80 close wit silver

    • @cccmmm1093
      @cccmmm1093 2 дня назад +1

      80/84 dunk with 65 vert has been better for me than 89 dunk with 80 vert lmao. Legit dunk on people 8/10 times when going up with the lower dunk, but maybe twice out of 10 with the 89 dunk lmao.

  • @AvengeBasketball
    @AvengeBasketball 10 часов назад

    I think the gap will look more noticeable if it's side cam and not 2K cam.

  • @septakaz8010
    @septakaz8010 2 дня назад

    With speed they need to add a system to show momentum irl you will not be able to run as fast in the half court as in full court but also it would also feed into strength if you make a fast strong player, with momentum in the game you will actually notice a difference between speed and strength levels. In the 2k we have now if you run all the way down to the court and bump into and player standing still that player will completely stop you dead in your tracks that needs to be taken out

  • @waff6ix
    @waff6ix 2 дня назад +14

    THIS WHAT WE MEAN BY ATTRIBUTES DONT MATTER: 99 DOESNT FEEL GOOD ENOUGH & 25 DOESNT FEEL BAD ENOUGH💯😮‍💨
    IVE RAN WITH PEOPLE ON 99 PASS BUILDS WHO STILL THROW TURNOVERS & BAD CATCHES DOWN COURT WITH LEGEND BREAK STARTER😳MEANWHILE I HAVE A BUILD WITH 25 PASS THAT CAN THROW OUTLET PASSES RIGHT INTO MY TEAMMATES SHOOTING POCKET💯
    I HAVE A BUILD WITH 99 STEAL & SOMETIMES THE GAME STILL MAKES ME TIP THE BALL WITH BOTH HANDS & WONT LET ME CATCH IT💔BUT I ALSO HAVE BUILDS WITH 25 STEAL 25 BLOCK THAT GET MULTIPLE STOCKS PER GAME IN THE REC😳
    99 WITH LEGEND BADGES DOESNT FEEL LIKE UR A LEGEND ON THE COURT & 25 WITH NO BADGES DOESNT FEEL LIKE UR A LIABILITY EITHER💯🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @thegentlecapybara4572
      @thegentlecapybara4572 2 дня назад +4

      pls turn caps lock off

    • @zergbong
      @zergbong 2 дня назад +1

      skill issue, bad at the game, please uninstall, thanks.

    • @Naptownapollyon
      @Naptownapollyon 23 часа назад

      Facts you get punished for hitting that 99 mark on attributes.

  • @yaggau
    @yaggau 2 дня назад +156

    Nothing matters.. except that u believe on the only begotten son of the Father, our Lord Jesus died for us that we may be clothed in his righteousness through belief in him

    • @VenGxJon
      @VenGxJon 2 дня назад +8

      And accept him into your heart bro. 💯
      And turn away from your wicked ways. 1000

    • @1GodExist
      @1GodExist 2 дня назад +2

      Jesus Died For Us To Live. Satan Is SIN. SIN Controls Humans . Jesus Can Set U Free and Thru Him Have Eternal Life In A New Glorious Earth. Jesus I Pray In Your Name That U Touch The Hearts Of All That Read This Message.

    • @dynasty8658
      @dynasty8658 2 дня назад +6

      As a bot I disagree with all of this.

    • @kylemann5862
      @kylemann5862 2 дня назад

      Amen

    • @SkinnySkinny
      @SkinnySkinny 2 дня назад

      Jesus is a fraud I would rather believe in big foot

  • @Dwr12187
    @Dwr12187 День назад

    The problem is….2k fixes something…..and then hot fixes it back to what it was before. So we’re told something is fixed…..but their egos are so out of control that they think nothing with their game needs fixed. So they revert it back without saying anything. Lane steals are still broken…..but for less than a week it wasn’t. Same with steals after rebounds. Same with running out of bounds randomly with the ball. It’s always reverted.

  • @beastmode1246
    @beastmode1246 2 дня назад

    keep being thorough, innovative, and real! TUTES the 2k community appreciates you. stay humble, stay GREAT!
    regarding the topic, attribute stats matter, but some are more apparent than others. example, certain attributes have noticeable thresholds, an e.g. where an 89 is hugely improved over an 88.
    the key is the strategy in combining the attributes for a specific built to maximize

  • @dtwine05
    @dtwine05 День назад

    You shouldn’t do this in 2k view. The weakness of 2k view is depth perception. This view makes it harder to see the gaps

  • @jizzlewop552
    @jizzlewop552 2 дня назад

    Can you test layup packages? See which ones are best for each type of layup. For example harden has a good euro step but a shitty pro hop. Fox has good euro and pro hop

  • @c00terman34
    @c00terman34 2 дня назад +1

    Just make a player and wait till it's your week .. 2k change every week either shooting def or dunks and repeat ...

  • @eagleballer77
    @eagleballer77 2 дня назад

    People don’t realise that the difference between an NBA player and let’s say a Euroleague player is maybe 1% speaking exponentially over a long period of time if someone does the same things everyday, 1% better, then the gap will widen over time.

  • @sizzojuan
    @sizzojuan 2 дня назад

    Hey Tutes I got a weird test if you could try, how much faster around the court would a 99 speed but slowest motion style vs. 25 speed with the fastest motion style....to see how much it really impacts the game

  • @maitlinjoyner107
    @maitlinjoyner107 9 часов назад

    Badges matter in 2k25. Attributes don’t 🙃. The Badge DNA model will display how your players responds. Learned this from playing alottt of Rec.

  • @_teezy
    @_teezy День назад

    lol it’s been this way for years . gotta understand that to really get the most outta the builder fr ..

  • @Latino1777
    @Latino1777 2 дня назад

    I notice that too many players go for the steal right from the inbound. They have lost an adrenaline bar and are already at a disadvantage. Pass the inbound player back the ball if possible .

  • @chrisjones720
    @chrisjones720 2 дня назад +28

    Your badges matter more than your attributes.

    • @CloutGodRecklezz
      @CloutGodRecklezz 2 дня назад +2

      And even they don't matter really

    • @invise720
      @invise720 2 дня назад +3

      of course matter. hof posterizer with 96 dd or 70 post d and bronze badge?

    • @JohnThree-f8e
      @JohnThree-f8e 2 дня назад +11

      You can't get badges without attributes

  • @inkDGamingTTV
    @inkDGamingTTV 2 дня назад +21

    Have you ever made build videos? With all your research and knowledge of everything you'd probably make 🔥 builds. Just a thought my brotha appreciate what you do.

    • @nba2ktutes
      @nba2ktutes  2 дня назад +23

      I did some before but I only do build videos for my actual build (build that I played a lot of games). As a stat-based channel, for me personally, build videos are super sensitive topic that I would only do it if the build is fully tested. I'm a one man army so I can't really create a lot of builds and play them. My vision on the channel is to explain every element of build creation then let you guys decide on what do you want on your build. In that way, you can craft your own build as you want. Thanks for the love.

    • @sstelevision6376
      @sstelevision6376 2 дня назад +3

      Builds are very dependent on each pkayer's play style and skillset. A good build for one person could be a trash build to someone else so there's too many variables to account for. It's better to just have all the information you can gather for every attribute and badge so you can try to customize your own build that fits you specifically.

    • @ReformedJerry
      @ReformedJerry 2 дня назад +2

      Good lord we don’t need more build videos

  • @Jus2Smooth4You
    @Jus2Smooth4You 2 дня назад

    I have a lock with 97 perimeter all HOF badges and some legend with the plus 1 and plus 2 and I have a SG with gold perimeter badges and seems pretty much the same I don’t stop players any more in my lock buold than my SG shooting build ?…. I was always thinking that

  • @zergbong
    @zergbong 2 дня назад +1

    I really like this type of video than any other type.

  • @r3gor197
    @r3gor197 2 дня назад

    tutes have u tried testing paint prodigy and paint patroller?

  • @LegendWest2k
    @LegendWest2k 2 дня назад

    How do loss of adrenaline bars contribute to steal success or stonewalls/blow bys

  • @kayneharker3348
    @kayneharker3348 2 дня назад +1

    How can someone dribble up the floor with a lower rating on swb than a defender with I higher speed! Dumb

  • @seanjones8737
    @seanjones8737 2 дня назад

    I got a video idea for you tutes. I was going through my layup animations and saw that some animations have different attribute level requirements. Can you test if the higher attribute layup packages/dunk packages get better contact make percentages than the lower ones?? 😁

  • @BOBBYITS2EZBILLIONZ
    @BOBBYITS2EZBILLIONZ День назад

    Basketball is a game of inches 🔥🔥🔥

  • @MW-vz4gx
    @MW-vz4gx День назад

    YALL COMPLAINING TOO MUCH THIS YEAR we came a long way

  • @patvercher5530
    @patvercher5530 2 дня назад +2

    Speed wit ball doesn't matter again folks

    • @iakifilodo941
      @iakifilodo941 2 дня назад +1

      Did you watch the video?

    • @mikeesteves8427
      @mikeesteves8427 2 дня назад +1

      tutes test also doesnt factor dribble style which is the biggest factor in how fast you feel when dribbling the ball

    • @cccmmm1093
      @cccmmm1093 2 дня назад

      Speed with ball 100% matters. You can tell the difference between 91 and 86 easily.

    • @Applypressure223
      @Applypressure223 2 дня назад

      Speed with ball matters a ton because of lightning launch levels + dribble styles not because of the attribute itself, same as all the other atrributes

  • @WestphillyZay
    @WestphillyZay 2 дня назад

    That’s how the A.I. move SWB on fast breaks.

  • @bronxgmoney
    @bronxgmoney 2 дня назад

    Bail out badge is use less they let anybody pass out of shots in this game on my center I have a 65 pass acc and I can pass out of shots you would think with no badge realistically it should be a turnover ever time but nah I pass out of shots at a decent rate which is stupid because my pass acc is low and I don't get the badge

  • @danielnelson6903
    @danielnelson6903 2 дня назад +9

    Didn’t think they could make a worse game than 2k18 and 19. But gotta give it to 2k they managed to do it. 2k25 is trash
    1. Overused rng
    2. Minimal control of my player(scripted movements)
    3. Attributes don’t matter once again

    • @iakifilodo941
      @iakifilodo941 2 дня назад +1

      Y’all gon be on 25’s meat next year saying the next 2k is the worst ever

    • @Book.of.Treason
      @Book.of.Treason 2 дня назад +3

      19 wasnt no where near as bad as 18 not even in the same conversation at all

    • @cartiaekreacts
      @cartiaekreacts 2 дня назад

      19 was fire df

    • @upfrfr
      @upfrfr 2 дня назад

      ​@@iakifilodo941 25 asz and u a corn for defending dis game u prolly really mad dis the worst 2k to most people if the 2k pros say it and casuals is noticing it its a problem my lil cousin is 15 he said all his friends don't even play 25 no more

    • @iakifilodo941
      @iakifilodo941 2 дня назад

      @@upfrfr brother it’s my opinion you can agree or disagree with it. At the end of the day it’s a video game it’s not for everyone. What I’m doing is stating My opinion and the obvious which is and also the community is bad making it worse than it is

  • @WavyDot
    @WavyDot 2 дня назад

    hard to blend a basketball game for sweats and simulation basketball

  • @Kerboripx
    @Kerboripx 2 дня назад

    I have a challenge for you tut, the prefect build to make with 50$

  • @rudolphhemmittjr.8101
    @rudolphhemmittjr.8101 2 дня назад

    Would like to see your results in a game
    Speed in height and max speed

  • @anthonyreynolds8162
    @anthonyreynolds8162 2 дня назад

    What you think makes badges happen 😅

  • @ZooveyJacksonTv
    @ZooveyJacksonTv 2 дня назад +2

    Football is the true “Game of inches”

  • @simplepeepsofficial
    @simplepeepsofficial 2 дня назад +1

    So basically bigs are superior

  • @LafanSaberX
    @LafanSaberX 2 дня назад

    Speed with ball test with no ball 😂

    • @nba2ktutes
      @nba2ktutes  2 дня назад

      Commenting about a video without watching the video

  • @picassoedftheglitch8344
    @picassoedftheglitch8344 2 дня назад +67

    It don’t matter what info you put out. 2k will change it later. 💯💁🏽‍♂️It’s a pointless game, all about Chance. I have a 99 midrange with legendary badges and be lit 🔥 and miss…😅😅 later take a contested shot and green a slight late tight shot‼️💀💀💀😂

    • @User45x92
      @User45x92 2 дня назад +5

      You’re a bot

    • @JP-jd8wr
      @JP-jd8wr 2 дня назад +4

      You probably just trash

    • @picassoedftheglitch8344
      @picassoedftheglitch8344 2 дня назад

      @ probably…I’m sure I can get better right?

    • @picassoedftheglitch8344
      @picassoedftheglitch8344 2 дня назад +7

      @@User45x92 but my name is not “user” tho…👀

    • @unbanmekoil
      @unbanmekoil 2 дня назад +1

      You’re trash. I have 90 midrange on a footer and never miss a shot bro. Literally green every shot.

  • @wuan4220
    @wuan4220 2 дня назад +1

    worst 2k ever made and the last 2k for a lot of people

  • @javygranados8354
    @javygranados8354 3 часа назад

    La velocidad con balon cuando alguien te defiende no tiene nada que ver con tu estupida prueba sin defensa😅😂

  • @YasukeRD
    @YasukeRD 2 дня назад

    Definitely im retired of 2k or maybe this 2k, cuz im tired of this sht, im starter 5 almost v1(Elite) n i dont have any interest in play any game mode, for me THIS IS THE WORST 2K EVER

  • @lHolySnag
    @lHolySnag 2 дня назад +2

    notigaaaang 🤞🏻

  • @geobol87
    @geobol87 2 дня назад +2

    I love ur videos dude. Small videos with full of information.

  • @PeculiarCrowns
    @PeculiarCrowns 2 дня назад

    With a 25 pass on a Center, I’ve thrown consistent full court dimes

  • @anubisxxXXx
    @anubisxxXXx 2 дня назад

    super thieves 2k 🆘🚨

  • @Himo_Thy
    @Himo_Thy 2 дня назад +1

    Has anybody made a do it all build or jack of all trades yet? All 80+ attributes with majority silver and gold badges? I just wanna know how the build plays

    • @blckdiamonds01
      @blckdiamonds01 2 дня назад

      It’s garbage brother. Everything really is random.

    • @TheMajeBeezyShow
      @TheMajeBeezyShow 2 дня назад

      @@blckdiamonds01🧢

    • @unbanmekoil
      @unbanmekoil 2 дня назад

      😂 This is a joke right? 🤣 It’s so hard to tell with all these 0IQ’s posting shit they really mean that sound just like this 😂

    • @iakifilodo941
      @iakifilodo941 2 дня назад +2

      I have one and I think it depends on the player with the sticks

    • @Kyng88
      @Kyng88 2 дня назад

      I wasn’t aware you could get many gold badges worth having with 80s

  • @oorunallums5953
    @oorunallums5953 2 дня назад

    #in2ktuteswetrust 🙏🏾

  • @OG_Laywood
    @OG_Laywood 2 дня назад

    Aww Tutes

  • @daskingbutta4998
    @daskingbutta4998 2 дня назад +2

    First one here🎉🎉🎉