When I was 6 the neighbor across the street from bought one of these for their daughter. One day when she was babysitting me she took me to Hardy’s, and I thought it was the fastest car 😂. Thanks for the trip down memory lane haha.
He’s really cornered that niche so much that I’ll never understand his view count. He isn’t reviewing cars that have been reviewed before which isn’t easy to do. I would expect him to get more traction with subscribers.
@@chaseteter the engagement of his subscribers is what’s most important. otherwise it becomes a numbers game and quality may suffer. how many up and coming channels have you seen get the soul sucked out with giveaways and all the nonsense multipliers?
I just bought a time capsule auto non-turbo 2.5L '89 Sundance sedan with 41,000 miles, and it was absolute LOVE at first sight! Being the birth-destined little shitboxes that they were, I really didn't expect much from it...and it absolutely blew me away on the test drive!!! It's solid as a rock, takes hills like flat ground, and I can close every door with one finger! 💖💖💖
The one you really want to review is the 1987 - 1989 Dodge Shadow Shelby CSX with the manual. It was 175 HP and capable of 7.1 second 0-60 which was quick in the day. Fun fact: you could actually rent these from Thrifty Car Rental at the time. I know because I rented one for a day for little more than it cost to rent a standard car. It had great graphics, was a blast to drive, and sounded great.
You are definitely correct about the Shelby CSX being the ones to want to review. Notes: CSX stands for Carroll Shelby eXperimental. The 1988 Shelby CSX-T (Thrifty) version did not use the same 175 hp/175 lbs torque Turbo II version like the 1987 CSX. The CSX-T was a Turbo I car, equipped with the same 2.2L 145 hp/168 lbs torque non-intercooled Turbo engine available in the regular production Shadow ES. The 1989 is the most interesting of the three years with the Turbo IV VNT engine (175 hp/205 lbs torque) and Fiberide plastic composite wheels, and Kaminari made ground FX. I know most about the latter because I am the owner of one.
It wasn't just white paint. I used to have a blue 1988 Plymouth Horizon. The paint would peel off of it in sheets as I was driving down the road. It seems like it was worse in Sun Belt areas.
I have an ‘89 Sundance Rs turbo 2 door 5 speed. Very enjoyable car. Love the turbo sounds and the transmission shifts quite nice. Similar spec to this car. I use my center console as a cup holder.
I had this exact car minus the sunroof. It lasted for many years and had over 175K miles when she was done. And I beat the living shit out of it and it took it without ever leaving me stranded. Thanks for the memories!
Except for the automatic transmission, chipping paint and the manual locks, mirrors and windows, this is MY car! The very 1st brand new car I ever owned. 1989 ES, white 2 door hatchback with burgundy vulgalour interior, same wheels, every possible option. The storage bin at the bottom of the center console had a wonderful fluid damped motion when you opened it. Like something you'd expect to find on a Rolls, no joke. And it DID have cup holders underneath the console BTW, but it was just a removable plastic plate that probably got lost on yours. Yes, the hatch was cavernous! But I don't believe you when you say the A/C still works. Every Chrysler sold in the 80s had a defective compressor clutch that they refused to own up to. I had mine for 10 years and probably replaced it 3 times. But what a blast! I'd get looks from dudes in Porsches. If you slipped the clutch and floored it, the front wheels would just bounce violently up and down like a jackhammer, so it wasn't exactly a rival for the M3. But if I recall, it cost $13k new and was the easiest engine to work on ever. Did all the repairs myself, literally under a shade tree. Sold it in 1998 with 113k miles on it, never replaced clutch or brakes. The manual removable sunroof developed a leak (my fault) that was so bad, I went out one winter morning when it was freezing rain and there was ice on the INSIDE of the windshield! And the heater wasn't working. So now i know what it feels like to own a vintage British sports car. Thanks SO much for the great memories!
1989 was the first year of the 2.5 Turbo, and it was a big improvement over the earlier 2.2 turbos. Chrysler did a great job of engineering a turbo engine that had strong torque at low speeds, and was exceptionally well behaved and livable in a real-world road car. The 2.5 had the added refinement of twin balance shafts to smooth out the 4-cylinder imbalance. The automatic was only a 3-speed and didn't lock up, but it was extremely well adapted to the turbo engine and contributed to the overall very pleasant driving experience that you found. I'm still driving its brother, a Plymouth Sundance RS, and I'm hoping to have it until I die.
The Big 3 - Chrysler, GM & Ford keep discontinuing cars and replacing them with a new model instead of redesigning them and improving as the Japanese do. Toyota has made the Corolla for 57 years.
the corolla always been a lame car, on the other hand, when mazda stopped making decent cars they renamed all their models for 3 - 6, cx and all wanna be german garbage names like that
My grandma had a Shadow she bought new. Eventually when she was done with it, she passed it to me. Wasn't a turbo, but that little thing was a solid car. Never had a single issue with her. Good on gas and once you got through the gears she drove great. Nothing fancy, just a solid basic car that got you where you wanted to go.
I bought a new '93 V6 with the 5 speed; $10,700 out the door. And it would walk the 80's muscle car slushboxes all day long. Drove it for 160k miles of cheap maintenance and gave it to my brother, who never checks the oil thus seized it in a couple years.
Reminds me of my first car, a 1988 Plymouth Sundance turbo (no aerodynamic headlamps for me). Mine was black, and fast with a a manual transmission, and I loved it.
I had an 89 es turbo.It was fast for that day.Raced many cars including late 90's gti's,x-24s,Beretta GTs etc.Embarassed many of them.Just an all around fun sleeper.
I had a couple different Shadow ES's, both with the V6, one with auto and one with manual. I still miss those cars. They were so much fun for what they were; inexpensive, quick (not fast, but quick) little cars. They really are as much fun as he says in the videos. Notice to auto makers, bring back these types of cars.
Peeling paint is a big issue with these cars, especially the lighter colors. The notchback design robs a lot of useable space. These were originally designed to replace the Turismo/Charger but they were sold alongside them.
Gotta love a hatchback that looks like a notchback sedan. The Daihatsu Applause was a similar style, except it was a five door. There was a bit of a trend towards that style of hatchback in the eighties. The Ford Escort range in the UK was similar.
I never knew the Shadow & Sundance were notchback hatchbacks!! 😳😳 Not many cars have the shape of a regular notchback sedan with an almost vertical rear window,but a hatchback!
I always thought it'd be kinda cool to take a Dodge Shadow & a Dodge Challenger & *mash* them together & make a Dodge Shadow Hellcat...keeping the interior O.G.
Back around 2007 or so I had a Sundance RS which was the Plymouth version of this car with the turbo. Mine was pretty much the exact same spec as this car when I got it. Auto trans and no intercooler. I fitted a bigger turbo from Forward Motion and manual swapped it. Also put an SRT4 front suspension and added a big front mount intercooler and a computer tune chip from FWD Performance. This was back in my dumber days, so it had a bigger downpipe just open and completely gutted the interior. The car made around 300 wheel hp and was a a blast to hunt Mustangs and Hondas at the Saturday car meets. I once had a full sized dryer in that thing with the hatch closed. 😂😂. I have a couple videos of it on my channel.
I remember these, the Shadow was sought-after but most had the Plymouth Sundance version. inb4 the rough 90's builds that had even looser standards. Not many on the road anymore. The '90 Shadow had a 175hp/205lb.ft turbo 2.2L i4 and a '91 convertible lowered the power to mass ratio before the platform was discontinued and replaced with the Neon.
The paint issues you described, it wasn't just white. If you look at photos of used Chrysler Corporation products from the same era, you'll notice that they also had the same problem with green, purple, maroon, and teal.
Hmmm… I'd say these 80's Chrysler Turbo cars were junky, but cool cars. At least that's what I remember from back in the day. Certainly Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth were doing more with turbos than anyone else at the time that I remember.
I appreciate all the cars you review Zack. Question, how come you don't show and comment more on your driving impressions? I know you definitely talk about how it drives, but we never really see you go through corners or accelerating. You probably don't want abuse the cars but I'm sure one or two pulls would be acceptable with most owners.
Fog lights. Hellas straight from the factory. With protective black plastic covers you had to remove manually BEFORE you knew you were gonna need to use them. Or stop and take them off. Probably not the safest thing to have to do in, oh, let's say, FOG! And I think the volume nub you're referring to is actually the joystick that was a combination L/R balance and F/R fade button. Genius. The Alfa Romeos of the time (owned by Chrysler, or they owned Chrysler, not sure which) had the exact same radio.
Dodge really likes cheap speed. The rest of the car may be meh but they can make some moderately potent engines. It's a shame we don't have anything like this any more.
I was wondering if ALL Dodge Turbos came w bullet mufflers..Lacking overdrive transmissions The noise level on the road was unacceptable in all but the small sporty cars...I felt that the suspension on the Omni as well as likely the shadow was much too soft as the author notes making hard corners or emergency maneuvers dangerous for all but skiiled drivers
That 3-speed automatic is slow but bulletproof. In general, the hate towards Chrysler is enormous and often meaningless. The truth is, even the 4-speed automatic was reliable, well cared for and maintained, but the average American barely cares about giving it gas. to your car, you are going to be interested in maintaining the transmission, that's why they die
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200hp in that car and the new garbages fwd turbo cars are not even there, especially the mazda3 turbo, ive seen one getting ass kicked by a n/a ecotec base cavalier the other day at the strip, they both went for mid 15sec 1/4 mile
Zach no disrespect but really no such thing as no air bag Era they have been available since 1974 they were just at one time an option. Before 73 yes, Now of course Air bags are mandatory but for many years just an expensive option.
what's really sad is in the early to late 2000's and up till like 10 years ago i always thought that since turbo engines were everywhere that fun cars were gonna get cheaper and cheaper every year. now we are stuck in 30k civics and 60k corolla gr's like WTF happened? was it covid?
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Back in the day those Shadows were everywhere
And Plymouth Sundances,too!
When I was 6 the neighbor across the street from bought one of these for their daughter. One day when she was babysitting me she took me to Hardy’s, and I thought it was the fastest car 😂. Thanks for the trip down memory lane haha.
6 years old you go to school, why use baby sitting?
@@johnsonlong8491 summer break, parents working during the weekend, after-school care, etc.
@johnsonlong8491 did you go to school 24/7? I didn’t. My parents had these things called jobs. Any more common sense questions you need answered?!😂
Zack i gotta tell ya, you really know how to capture the era in these 80’s Car Reviews.
He’s really cornered that niche so much that I’ll never understand his view count. He isn’t reviewing cars that have been reviewed before which isn’t easy to do. I would expect him to get more traction with subscribers.
@@chaseteter the engagement of his subscribers is what’s most important. otherwise it becomes a numbers game and quality may suffer. how many up and coming channels have you seen get the soul sucked out with giveaways and all the nonsense multipliers?
Coupé + Turbocharger + Manual gearbox was all it took to make a small FWD economy car fun.
back then because todays turbo fwds are heavy garbage and very boring to drive
I disagree, you have to see my Nephews Omni automatic I call it the Rollercoaster ride😅😅
Especially in the days before AOD transmissions which would have given Dodge turbos w their bullet mufflers needed noise reduction
@retrocompaq5212 ever driven a VW TDI??
@rodneydunnigan9291 Sure hope they firmed up the suspension.I recall they were dangerously soft for unskilled drivers
I just bought a time capsule auto non-turbo 2.5L '89 Sundance sedan with 41,000 miles, and it was absolute LOVE at first sight!
Being the birth-destined little shitboxes that they were, I really didn't expect much from it...and it absolutely blew me away on the test drive!!! It's solid as a rock, takes hills like flat ground, and I can close every door with one finger! 💖💖💖
The one you really want to review is the 1987 - 1989 Dodge Shadow Shelby CSX with the manual. It was 175 HP and capable of 7.1 second 0-60 which was quick in the day. Fun fact: you could actually rent these from Thrifty Car Rental at the time. I know because I rented one for a day for little more than it cost to rent a standard car. It had great graphics, was a blast to drive, and sounded great.
CSX actually stood for Carroll Shelby Export
Dodge Lancer ES
Motor week magazine tested the black/silver one in 88 and got 0-60 in 6.7 and q mile in 14.8 not to bad and almost as quick as the Omni GLHS
Motor Trend that is.
You are definitely correct about the Shelby CSX being the ones to want to review. Notes: CSX stands for Carroll Shelby eXperimental. The 1988 Shelby CSX-T (Thrifty) version did not use the same 175 hp/175 lbs torque Turbo II version like the 1987 CSX. The CSX-T was a Turbo I car, equipped with the same 2.2L 145 hp/168 lbs torque non-intercooled Turbo engine available in the regular production Shadow ES. The 1989 is the most interesting of the three years with the Turbo IV VNT engine (175 hp/205 lbs torque) and Fiberide plastic composite wheels, and Kaminari made ground FX. I know most about the latter because I am the owner of one.
It wasn't just white paint. I used to have a blue 1988 Plymouth Horizon. The paint would peel off of it in sheets as I was driving down the road. It seems like it was worse in Sun Belt areas.
Paint from the 80's was water based due to EPA and the sun cooked it off all them.
80's turbo Mopars are underrated..
'86 Shelby GLHS 😊
The Horizon that can spin a Corvette lol @@yukonstriker1703
88 Shelby CSX-T #234 out of 1001
I have an ‘89 Sundance Rs turbo 2 door 5 speed. Very enjoyable car. Love the turbo sounds and the transmission shifts quite nice. Similar spec to this car. I use my center console as a cup holder.
The red velour interior. How typically (and wonderfully) 80's.
I had this exact car minus the sunroof. It lasted for many years and had over 175K miles when she was done. And I beat the living shit out of it and it took it without ever leaving me stranded. Thanks for the memories!
Thanks for checking out the Shadow ES Turbo! It's going on its way to Kansas City to a new home!
I didn't know these were 2.5L turbo
I thought they were 2.2L all this time lol
The CSX, CSX-T, CSX VNT shadows came with the 2.2 Turbo
Man I miss those colorful interiors, and those Dodge/Chrysler radios from the late 80s into the 90s were some of my favorites!!!
Except for the automatic transmission, chipping paint and the manual locks, mirrors and windows, this is MY car! The very 1st brand new car I ever owned. 1989 ES, white 2 door hatchback with burgundy vulgalour interior, same wheels, every possible option. The storage bin at the bottom of the center console had a wonderful fluid damped motion when you opened it. Like something you'd expect to find on a Rolls, no joke. And it DID have cup holders underneath the console BTW, but it was just a removable plastic plate that probably got lost on yours. Yes, the hatch was cavernous! But I don't believe you when you say the A/C still works. Every Chrysler sold in the 80s had a defective compressor clutch that they refused to own up to. I had mine for 10 years and probably replaced it 3 times. But what a blast! I'd get looks from dudes in Porsches. If you slipped the clutch and floored it, the front wheels would just bounce violently up and down like a jackhammer, so it wasn't exactly a rival for the M3. But if I recall, it cost $13k new and was the easiest engine to work on ever. Did all the repairs myself, literally under a shade tree. Sold it in 1998 with 113k miles on it, never replaced clutch or brakes. The manual removable sunroof developed a leak (my fault) that was so bad, I went out one winter morning when it was freezing rain and there was ice on the INSIDE of the windshield! And the heater wasn't working. So now i know what it feels like to own a vintage British sports car. Thanks SO much for the great memories!
1989 was the first year of the 2.5 Turbo, and it was a big improvement over the earlier 2.2 turbos. Chrysler did a great job of engineering a turbo engine that had strong torque at low speeds, and was exceptionally well behaved and livable in a real-world road car. The 2.5 had the added refinement of twin balance shafts to smooth out the 4-cylinder imbalance. The automatic was only a 3-speed and didn't lock up, but it was extremely well adapted to the turbo engine and contributed to the overall very pleasant driving experience that you found. I'm still driving its brother, a Plymouth Sundance RS, and I'm hoping to have it until I die.
The Big 3 - Chrysler, GM & Ford keep discontinuing cars and replacing them with a new model instead of redesigning them and improving as the Japanese do. Toyota has made the Corolla for 57 years.
* cough * eclipse * cough *
the corolla always been a lame car, on the other hand, when mazda stopped making decent cars they renamed all their models for 3 - 6, cx and all wanna be german garbage names like that
Been killing it with the reviews this weekend!
the interior is so sick 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Reminds me a bit of the Dodge 600SE I owned. Mine was an 85 and I think it has a Mitsubishi Turbo engine.
My grandma had a Shadow she bought new. Eventually when she was done with it, she passed it to me. Wasn't a turbo, but that little thing was a solid car. Never had a single issue with her. Good on gas and once you got through the gears she drove great. Nothing fancy, just a solid basic car that got you where you wanted to go.
It clearly has power door locks. The button is on the armrest on the driver's door Zack.
Come on Zack must do better 😅
I have an 89 Dodge Daytona ES Turbo, 80s Dodge was fun
I own the 88 Daytona Pacifica shown Yes they are fun cars
@tjlang5959 Nice car! Mine is not in that good of shape, but it's my first car, and I might get it fixed up
I bought a new '93 V6 with the 5 speed; $10,700 out the door. And it would walk the 80's muscle car slushboxes all day long. Drove it for 160k miles of cheap maintenance and gave it to my brother, who never checks the oil thus seized it in a couple years.
Reminds me of my first car, a 1988 Plymouth Sundance turbo (no aerodynamic headlamps for me). Mine was black, and fast with a a manual transmission, and I loved it.
Had one, black Turbo ES, 5spd, great car. The automatic 404 3spd with lockup torque converter was bulletproof.
I had an 89 es turbo.It was fast for that day.Raced many cars including late 90's gti's,x-24s,Beretta GTs etc.Embarassed many of them.Just an all around fun sleeper.
I had a couple different Shadow ES's, both with the V6, one with auto and one with manual. I still miss those cars. They were so much fun for what they were; inexpensive, quick (not fast, but quick) little cars. They really are as much fun as he says in the videos. Notice to auto makers, bring back these types of cars.
Peeling paint is a big issue with these cars, especially the lighter colors. The notchback design robs a lot of useable space. These were originally designed to replace the Turismo/Charger but they were sold alongside them.
1988 rx-7 tenth anniversary cars had that white flaking paint as well, not the regular ones though.
Gotta love a hatchback that looks like a notchback sedan. The Daihatsu Applause was a similar style, except it was a five door. There was a bit of a trend towards that style of hatchback in the eighties. The Ford Escort range in the UK was similar.
I never knew the Shadow & Sundance were notchback hatchbacks!! 😳😳 Not many cars have the shape of a regular notchback sedan with an almost vertical rear window,but a hatchback!
Zack, They could have used that slogan back then. 😅The Dodge shadow - “a economy car with a big mouth “
I always thought it'd be kinda cool to take a Dodge Shadow & a Dodge Challenger & *mash* them together & make a Dodge Shadow Hellcat...keeping the interior O.G.
My friend had one growing up and one of his first cars. I remember the red interior, every panel, and some interior rattles
Back around 2007 or so I had a Sundance RS which was the Plymouth version of this car with the turbo. Mine was pretty much the exact same spec as this car when I got it. Auto trans and no intercooler. I fitted a bigger turbo from Forward Motion and manual swapped it. Also put an SRT4 front suspension and added a big front mount intercooler and a computer tune chip from FWD Performance. This was back in my dumber days, so it had a bigger downpipe just open and completely gutted the interior. The car made around 300 wheel hp and was a a blast to hunt Mustangs and Hondas at the Saturday car meets. I once had a full sized dryer in that thing with the hatch closed. 😂😂. I have a couple videos of it on my channel.
Zack, those 3 speed autos were pretty reliable. The 4 speeds were not good.
Double Shot Dodge Shadow Weekend 🔥😎
Very underrated car due to the power/weight ratio.
My Mom had an 82 Cutlass supreme in burgundy exterior with an interior much like this one. Peak eighties color.
I remember these, the Shadow was sought-after but most had the Plymouth Sundance version. inb4 the rough 90's builds that had even looser standards. Not many on the road anymore. The '90 Shadow had a 175hp/205lb.ft turbo 2.2L i4 and a '91 convertible lowered the power to mass ratio before the platform was discontinued and replaced with the Neon.
I always admired these.
The paint issues you described, it wasn't just white. If you look at photos of used Chrysler Corporation products from the same era, you'll notice that they also had the same problem with green, purple, maroon, and teal.
Very cool hatchback design on this coupe! But the peeling paint really distracts what otherwise would be a really nice car.
Hmmm… I'd say these 80's Chrysler Turbo cars were junky, but cool cars. At least that's what I remember from back in the day. Certainly Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth were doing more with turbos than anyone else at the time that I remember.
This competed with the Cavalier Z24. The V6 Shadow ES with the manual wasn't bad either.
I appreciate all the cars you review Zack. Question, how come you don't show and comment more on your driving impressions? I know you definitely talk about how it drives, but we never really see you go through corners or accelerating. You probably don't want abuse the cars but I'm sure one or two pulls would be acceptable with most owners.
1987 lebaron GTS was basically the same car. Surprisingly it was a hatchback as well.
To me, it has a trim, purposeful design. I didn't notice it then.
I hope i can save for this before they sell it I love these things
A freind of mine had one of these! I am pretty sure my neighbor Rob has one as well
88 Shelby CSX-T #234 out of 1001 checking in
That's like Plymouth Sundance
Mines is white too 1990 2.5 turbo planning on a repaint
😅😅
Don’t forget newer Hyundai’s had problems with white paint also
hondas are even worst
An interesting and similar car to review would be the 1990 Dodge/Plymouth Colt Vista in sedan or wagon format, 2.0 manual 4WD options.. (Mitsubishi)
very odd volume nub
there was also a base model plymouth sundance duster model
9:33 are those intercoolers ? or foglights?
This car is a Turbo 1 non intercooled
No intercooler.
Fog lights. Hellas straight from the factory. With protective black plastic covers you had to remove manually BEFORE you knew you were gonna need to use them. Or stop and take them off. Probably not the safest thing to have to do in, oh, let's say, FOG!
And I think the volume nub you're referring to is actually the joystick that was a combination L/R balance and F/R fade button. Genius. The Alfa Romeos of the time (owned by Chrysler, or they owned Chrysler, not sure which) had the exact same radio.
Funny I always wanted one as a kid meanwhile my first was a 91 Daytona 😂
Dodge really likes cheap speed. The rest of the car may be meh but they can make some moderately potent engines. It's a shame we don't have anything like this any more.
Zack I got a 2018 ford ecosport u can review sometime😊. But it’ll need coil packs first lol
Fun lil’ car
My mom had a sedan Turbo version of these in blue. Had the same paint issues. Fun car, but even as a kid that back seat was atrocious.
The 5 spd was much better than the automatic but that automatic will last a very long time.
I was wondering if ALL Dodge Turbos came w bullet mufflers..Lacking overdrive transmissions The noise level on the road was unacceptable in all but the small sporty cars...I felt that the suspension on the Omni as well as likely the shadow was much too soft as the author notes making hard corners or emergency maneuvers dangerous for all but skiiled drivers
Watching from the State of Rhode Island-my daily is an '88 Aries-how 'bout citing the mpg showing on the dash read-out on these '80s dinosaurs? Peace!
you look like if jack black and shane dawson had a baby
That 3-speed automatic is slow but bulletproof. In general, the hate towards Chrysler is enormous and often meaningless. The truth is, even the 4-speed automatic was reliable, well cared for and maintained, but the average American barely cares about giving it gas. to your car, you are going to be interested in maintaining the transmission, that's why they die
Even the 4 was if it had its oil changes done and it wasn't hit all the time.
This is still a problem with toyota's white pearl paint from the 90s -2024. They always end up peeling.
Nice 😊
😊😊😊 nice car looks good 😊
Mopar Fans Check This Out, Walter P. Chrysler's Grandson is putting together a Project right now to buy back Chrysler and Bring it Back To America WOOOOHOOO HELL YEAH 👍
The brand can definitely die out now.
Why are you Randomly capitalizing Words? They teach you in first grade to only capitalize the first word of a sentence and proper nouns.
they put a shift kid on this car?!?! lmaoooo
Well they pbly did that bc those 3 speeds are quite the Syrup O Matic deluxe
boys dont i remember these cars...
shadow
sundance
butt ugly
yet intriquing.
Is it sold?
I don’t think so I believe it’s still for sale
It is still available!
It’s on fb marketplace for $4k right now .
@@aenoymotorsWhat state is it in?
Northern Illinois by Rockford
200hp in that car and the new garbages fwd turbo cars are not even there, especially the mazda3 turbo, ive seen one getting ass kicked by a n/a ecotec base cavalier the other day at the strip, they both went for mid 15sec 1/4 mile
3 speed auto?!?
Zach no disrespect but really no such thing as no air bag Era they have been available since 1974 they were just at one time an option. Before 73 yes, Now of course Air bags are mandatory but for many years just an expensive option.
You contradict yourself. You say that there was never an air bag era, yet you also say that they've only been available since 1974.
what's really sad is in the early to late 2000's and up till like 10 years ago i always thought that since turbo engines were everywhere that fun cars were gonna get cheaper and cheaper every year. now we are stuck in 30k civics and 60k corolla gr's like WTF happened? was it covid?
is this for sale i thought i saw a sign in the back seat.
It is!