Proxmox VE v.s. XCP-ng: A Live Discussion with Tom Lawrence (@LAWRENCESYSTEMS) and @45Drives
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 3 апр 2024
- Gear up for a deep dive into the world of storage #virtualization!
On Thursday, April 4th, Mitch and Brett will sit down #live with Tom Lawrence from Lawrence Systems to unravel the mysteries of Proxmox v.s. XCP-ng, comparing these platforms side-by-side.
Tune in live to our RUclips channel to gain a better understanding of each platform in order to decide which reigns supreme for your specific applications. 
Наука
![XO (Only If You Say Yes) - ENHYPEN エンハイプン 엔하이픈 [Music Bank] | KBS WORLD TV 240712](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wBT1bKKwPTo/mqdefault.jpg)
Update Proxmox to version 8.1.10. In datacener storage you will have option to connect VMware esxi host to proxmox and directly import vm-s to proxmox.
Amazing stream, looking forward to another with the definitive experts (top search engine hits) for storage (45 drives), Virtualization (XCP-NG with Tom and Olivier) - 5 stars!
Cool! Comparisons are a great way to (re)discover a feature we missed/forgot
What a live!!! Wonderfull. Only sad thing, it was too short!
"my hypervisor can do this!"
"Oh yeah, well my hypervisor can do this!"
I have a Ceph RBD pool in Proxmox for my HA VMs and I love it as much as anyone can love anything.
I would go with either, but proxmox seems to be a better setup for a homelab. I setup xcp-ng but didn't have much use for it besides just learning it. That said it seems really polished and well thought out
If I may, why no use for xcp-ng? I'm, about to start setting stuff up for a new homelab box and I'm leaning toward xcp-ng, if I remember correctly you can pass things like GPU to VM in it which expands what it is useful for quite a bit, for me anyway. But I need to take a good look at hyper-v first, it might be enough. I used to be firmly in the vmware camp but yeah, that didn't last...
For business I would go with xenserver and xencenter as gui. The gui of the orchestra is creepy. In a homelab I choose proxmox.
The XCP-ng project/ the community maintains the XenAdmin fork of XenCenter. The official GUI is XenOrchestra, but XenAdmin should be fine too.
Cool. I'm curious, which videoconferencing app are you using?
@31:46 - is Ceph the only option ????
will Proxmox use other clustered storage technology (a smaller footprint, faster) ??
We are using Fibe Channel block storage (not iSCSI) presented storage to vmware (VMFS format) with many VMs that have greater than 2 TB disks configured. Like many we are looking to migrate off of vmware due to the 3x cost increase they hit us with after Broadcom bought them out.
It's my understanding that XCP-ng's VMs cannot have disks larger than 2TBs unless they are RAW format and with RAW format, snapshots cannot be used. That is a big limitation.
Do you know if Proxmox has simular limitations?
For Fc storage, Proxmox can do snapshots but no shared storage for vmotion, or, shared storage but not vm snapshots. Same with iscsi block. It's a huge missing feature that all the experts keep skipping.
XCP has that terrible 20 year old disk format that restricts to 2 TB but you can use multiple disks and use LVM to make a large drive in the OS.
Next version of the storage API will fix it but who knows when that happens. The amount of promises/coming soon announcements that are now years old is growing.
Hopefully an influx of money will allow quicker development.
We don’t need to see you while presenting we can’t even read the goddamn demo screen
Does it mean anything that it takes two Proxmox guys to take on one XCP-NG guy?
😂👍🏼
Ceff is so prohibitively expensive.. cant see it ever being viable
I _love_ how Tom speaks from a place of authority, and then the 45Drives folks talk amongst themselves, and then start to chat about their stuff. If 45Drives can't see the value in paying Tom to do how-to videos and/or build outs on 45Drives hardware... then I don't know what they're doing. Cheers Tom.