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  • Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
  • Abortion rights and reproductive healthcare were thrown into turmoil by the Supreme Court. Joined by @DrJenniferLincoln, we hear how pregnancy, childbirth and even medical training have been affected. We’ll also meet Amanda and Josh Zurawski, a coupled denied a medically necessary abortion in Texas.
    If you like this video, be sure to check out our earlier episode about the medical realities of abortion with @MamaDoctorJones 👉👉 • What Most People (Stil... .
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    👓 Fascinating reads if you want to learn more:
    What Are The Abortion Laws In Your State?
    www.nytimes.co...
    Studies mentioned:
    - Turnaway Study www.ansirh.org...
    - Maternal and fetal health outcomes in Texas www.ajog.org/a...
    Emergency maternal health conditions:
    - PPROM www.mountsinai....
    - Ectopic Pregnancy www.mayoclinic...
    - Bleeding during pregnancy www.nhs.uk/pre....
    - Pre-term labor www.mayoclinic....
    Abortion ban consequences:
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    Pregnancy Is Far More Dangerous Than Abortion
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    - www.cdc.gov/mm....
    - pubmed.ncbi.nl....
    States With Restrictive Abortion Policies Show Weakest Maternal And Child Health Outcomes
    www.commonweal....
    00:00 Background
    03:01 Patients denied care
    05:56 Maternal health outcomes
    07:32 Delayed/denied miscarriage treatment
    08:30 Legal confusion
    09:52 Turnaway Study
    10:48 Challenges to medical education
    12:52 The anti-abortion position
    14:36 Takeaways

Комментарии • 110

  • @ladylaurus8493
    @ladylaurus8493 Год назад +43

    It happened to my cousin. She was denied miscarriage management and as a result she went septic. She unalived herself because of the medical trauma she went through, had the ban not been around she would've gotten the care she needed. The exceptions present in the bans don't work in practice and women will die and bans with no exceptions are just completely wrong and against life. She gave me permission to tell this story in her final letter, she like me is a survivor of childhood SA/SV. She leaves behind a child.

    • @iamjane9628
      @iamjane9628 Год назад +17

      This is absolutely terrible.

    • @ladylaurus8493
      @ladylaurus8493 Год назад +14

      ​@@iamjane9628 I nearly unalived myself too when I found out she was gone. I was going to donate my reproductive organs if I was a compatible donor. I miss my cousin, she was like a sister to me...we were both assaulted at the same age and we both got pregnant...only she didn't have an abortion and I did...and the first pregnancy nearly killed her because she was only 15.

    • @pbsvitals
      @pbsvitals  Год назад +13

      That sounds like a terrible story. Where did she live?

    • @ladylaurus8493
      @ladylaurus8493 Год назад +8

      ​@@pbsvitals She was living in Texas still with her parents the last time I heard from her, she had quit Facebook and Twitter for the sake of her mental health so I was only really talking with my aunt and uncle. I only learned about all this when they messaged me. She wouldn't want me sharing too much information about her as she was a private person due to her having survived violence as a child. But she always wanted a big family of her own whether they be biological or adopted and she wanted to follow in the footsteps of a lot of medical professionals in our family but her child she had when she was 15 shattered those dreams. Edit: I had to censor parts of my original comment, when I was talking about the final letter I was talking about a certain type of note one leaves before they...well...you know.

    • @meahdahlgren6537
      @meahdahlgren6537 Год назад +3

      @@ladylaurus8493 I'm so sorry to hear that

  • @lareinaroja4270
    @lareinaroja4270 Год назад +49

    Remember complications are common in pregnancy, complication free pregnancy is a freaking unicorn.

    • @jasonweinstock1282
      @jasonweinstock1282 Год назад +5

      The anti abortion rights people and groups would have us believe otherwise

    • @marinarassin4231
      @marinarassin4231 Год назад +3

      Then I m a feakin miracle twice, home birth , no paint relieve, jusg normal as it should

    • @ladylaurus8493
      @ladylaurus8493 Год назад +4

      @@marinarassin4231 nothing about pregnancy is a miracle. A miracle is something unexplainable by modern means.

    • @Ketowski
      @Ketowski 3 месяца назад +1

      @@marinarassin4231 Yes, you are. Otherwise medical care for births wouldn’t be necessary.
      Ever witness the birth of other animals?
      Only porcine delivery even approximates what you experienced, due to the very small size of the newborn relative to the mother.
      Many require assistance.

  • @katywolf93
    @katywolf93 Год назад +22

    Even though I live in Washington State, it's for those reasons why I don't want to get pregnant or even have children; it's terrifying that this is happening since Roe v Wade was overturned 😔

    • @jasonweinstock1282
      @jasonweinstock1282 Год назад +5

      Katy johnston, I live in Spokane, Washington. It is a good thing that abortion is still legal here in Washington state.I feel sorry for women who live in states where abortion is almost illegal

    • @lawsattitude1999
      @lawsattitude1999 Год назад

      Good. Please don't have kids.

    • @Ketowski
      @Ketowski 3 месяца назад

      It’ll likely backfire. Another white culture “solution” focused only on the Symptom.
      Foolish and cruel.

  • @iamjane9628
    @iamjane9628 Год назад +22

    To everyone who is affected or appalled by what is happening: How did you vote in recent elections? Or, DID you vote? Not just national elections, but local ones. State legislatures are where these decisions are being made. We are in this situation because of apathy, denialism, and wishful thinking on the part of the electorate. It's time people wake up and get involved. This situation does not reflect the will of the rational majority in this country.

  • @PunkHerr
    @PunkHerr Год назад +19

    If you are for or against abortion: If the baby/embryo is dead or not able to live, an abortion is just going to secure a living beeing, the mother.
    I don't understand (rationally) why this is not shifting towards securing life in the first place.
    I thought conservatives want to conserve. Isn't security their number one priority?
    Your ideology gets out of hand if you act against the corner stones of it.

    • @ladylaurus8493
      @ladylaurus8493 Год назад +16

      There are some who believe that women should sacrifice their lives for the fetus, even if they already have children they should risk dying in childbirth.

    • @iamjane9628
      @iamjane9628 Год назад +17

      No, security is not the #1 priority of conservatives. It is control.

    • @ladylaurus8493
      @ladylaurus8493 Год назад +1

      @@iamjane9628 Nailed it! Today's conservatives are fascist with their beliefs, they want a nanny state that controls the bodies of women.

    • @jasonweinstock1282
      @jasonweinstock1282 Год назад +1

      If conservatives can control the life of one woman,then its just one life too many

    • @LilAmBaby
      @LilAmBaby Год назад +8

      @@iamjane9628 and suffering. Don’t forget the suffering.

  • @abby657
    @abby657 Год назад +5

    This video was very informative on how abortion bans will impact healthcare in the US. As a current medical student, this is something that I have been really confused about. As it was mentioned in the video, these laws are very ambiguous and confusing to understand. I thought part of this was due to a lack of understanding the laws on my end, but it seems that the laws were purposefully written to be confusing. Dr. Lincoln talked about how the ambiguity of the laws prevents healthcare providers from acting as quickly as they would like to since they have to ensure that the mother is sick enough to warrant an abortion in states where it is banned. As a result, women are waiting for 9 extra days to receive the care that they need. The fact that women who are already sick are having to wait around to prove they are sick enough to receive treatment is mind boggling to me. However, the potential consequences for healthcare providers who provide abortions are severe. It is frustrating that the law puts providers in these extremely challenging positions.
    I believe that making women wait until they are sick enough to meet the “life exception” criteria goes against medical ethics and the principle of nonmaleficence. However, I think the government is to blame for this, not healthcare providers. Nonmaleficence is the ethical principle of doing no harm. However, women having to wait to receive the care they need is causing them physical and mental harm in the process. While it seems that many healthcare providers want to help these women, it is the laws in abortion ban states that are preventing them from being able to. Why does the government not have to follow the same ethical principles of doing no harm to patients? I will never understand why the government as well as insurance companies are able to deny patients the healthcare services that their providers recommend.
    Another aspect of the abortion ban that I never thought of is the impact on medical training. For medical students and residents who are located in states with abortion bans, they are not receiving the experience and training they need. The scary thought I had about this is that these OB-GYN residents may then go on to work in a state where abortions are legal. However, there training prevented them from being prepared for these necessary and life saving medical procedures.
    It also saddens me to hear about the mental health and socioeconomic consequences that women are faced with when they are unable to receive a wanted abortion. In this way we are once again letting women down and promoting harm rather than good. Not only for the mother, but for their children as well.

    • @lawsattitude1999
      @lawsattitude1999 11 месяцев назад

      This video is a lie and propaganda. Plenty of doctors have no issue with this because they ain't liars like these people.

  • @z2zugzwang
    @z2zugzwang Год назад +20

    America is regressing

    • @lawsattitude1999
      @lawsattitude1999 Год назад

      *Progressing.

    • @Ketowski
      @Ketowski 3 месяца назад

      @@lawsattitude1999 Regressing to archaic attitudes and means.
      Going against the constitution to repress Freedom of Speech and access to healthcare.

  • @katepermut8958
    @katepermut8958 Год назад +12

    Excellent summary of the impact of abortion bans - bans are just a bad idea for health care! Period!

    • @lawsattitude1999
      @lawsattitude1999 Год назад

      Nah. These guys are wrong and bans are good.

    • @ladylaurus8493
      @ladylaurus8493 Год назад

      @@lawsattitude1999 you support monsters getting increased access to children. The more that are forced to be born the more likely they are to slip through the cracks

    • @Ketowski
      @Ketowski 3 месяца назад +1

      @@lawsattitude1999 Nah, you’re just another wilfully ignorant political conservative.
      You’re getting revenge for a biblical story about Adam’s choice or abusive Viking culture.

  • @SnakeAndTurtleQigong
    @SnakeAndTurtleQigong Год назад +9

    Thanks so much!

  • @emmajones8590
    @emmajones8590 Год назад +3

    That woman that developed sepsis, is lucky she didn't lose all her limbs. Or die.

  • @DefektoPrime
    @DefektoPrime Год назад +17

    It is absolutely horrifying that Roe v Wade got overturned, and that these barbaric and half-assed laws got enacted. It should be a violation of human rights to withhold medical treatment from someone like this.

    • @lawsattitude1999
      @lawsattitude1999 Год назад

      Cry about it. It was bad law that morons supported.

  • @Ketowski
    @Ketowski 3 месяца назад +1

    11:10 Inadequately trained medical professionals or those same
    Professionals put in No Win situations where accreditation can be denied if they don’t train in abortion-related procedures. While their own states outlaw such training.
    So their own families are being strained while these people leave to get residencies in locations that do give them exposure to competent care in these skills.

  • @verdad1234
    @verdad1234 Год назад +2

    EMTALA ABSO could have been used! Why aren’t we talking about this for these scenarios!!!?

    • @heartofthewild680
      @heartofthewild680 Год назад +5

      I don’t know about other states, but in Texas, they convinced a federal judge to allow them to ignore EMTALA when it comes to abortions.
      They actually mentioned this in the video, around 9:39

    • @verdad1234
      @verdad1234 Год назад +4

      @@heartofthewild680 😩
      It’s a federal law! I hate it here

  • @Dollightful
    @Dollightful Год назад +1

    Uh oh, I got a 404 error when I clicked the link for the survey. Is it working for everyone else?

  • @isaacraze4301
    @isaacraze4301 Год назад +5

    Small correction “The Supreme Court Ruling that ended the right to abortion.” Isn’t quite correct. They handed the decision back to the states and some states ended the right to abortion or at least made it very difficult to obtain one. If the Supreme Court had ended the right to abortion then no state could legally administer one and from your own graphic at least half the states still do.

    • @jasonweinstock1282
      @jasonweinstock1282 Год назад +8

      Abortion should be legal in all 50 states

    • @DemosIoannou
      @DemosIoannou Год назад +3

      but now someone want to pass a federal law, so where is state rights ?

    • @jasonweinstock1282
      @jasonweinstock1282 Год назад

      @@DemosIoannou I wouldn't be surprised if the right wing conservative Republicans pass a national abortion ban!?

    • @EirynKatherine
      @EirynKatherine Год назад +3

      They didn't say the Supreme Court banned abortion, which is what would cause no state to be able to legally administer one. The ruling did end the federal right to an abortion, which is to say it ended the federal protection for an abortion. If they hadn't ended the right to an abortion states wouldn't be able to remove that right from people.

    • @lawsattitude1999
      @lawsattitude1999 Год назад

      @@jasonweinstock1282 No

  • @omarayyash3275
    @omarayyash3275 11 месяцев назад +4

    Abortion is a constitutional right.

  • @ankra12
    @ankra12 Год назад +2

    This is so discusting.

  • @arcanineryu
    @arcanineryu 15 дней назад

    What people gotta understand is that most of the people advocating for and creating the political policy for anti abortion are explicitly people who belive in magic and miracles to the point where the expectation of genuinely magical events being a commonplace occurance are being factored into their strategy. And lot of yall gotta wrap your head around the fact that a lot of these forced birthers are truely not worthy of your respectful attempts at teaching them the consequences of their advocacy. Because theyre operating on the level of pregnancy complications being a result of you not praying hard enough.

  • @miriamrempel422
    @miriamrempel422 Год назад

    Not being a health care provider and never been in a situation where I have wanted an abortion I am wondering if you were able to treat patients as you wish how would the appointment where a person who wants to terminate a pregnancy go not for health reasons. What kind discussion is had before offering an abortion to inform the person as to possible emotional issues related to the procedure. I am for informed choices. I have a friend who believes that if these laws were not in place, doctors would do abortions whenever someone asked leading to people regretting the decision later on.

  • @M.-fy8gj
    @M.-fy8gj 2 месяца назад +1

    Why use the term "pregnant people"??? This is about SEXISM. Emphasizing gender is crucial in this discussion.

  • @Ketowski
    @Ketowski 3 месяца назад

    1:50 Aiding and abetting manslaughter or worse by the state if Texas by preventing even talking about life-saving care.
    All this revenge for Adam’s own decision. Hypocrisy.

  • @user-ti9zc1xv2b
    @user-ti9zc1xv2b Год назад +3

    First world country? Bwhahahahahahahahahaha

  • @josepheridu3322
    @josepheridu3322 Год назад +3

    "The Public Broadcasting Service (PBS) is an American public broadcaster and non-commercial,"
    You shall be stripped from Government money for promoting one side of abortion. I hope your propaganda machine is aborted.

    • @ladylaurus8493
      @ladylaurus8493 Год назад

      You should’ve been aborted for being ok with slavery…which is what forced pregnancy is.

  • @alimackenzie7742
    @alimackenzie7742 Год назад +5

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