Yo Scott, you gotta change the shaping! The angle up makes it ride nose low in Mission which is great if you ride past pushback the entire time while racing. For a more well rounded slower speed setting, you'll want to angle the nose up in Custom between 2-3 degrees. Give that a go and that will solve your nose low issue. Great review!
@@TheHitman- nah, I did that first summer. I had a crash or two that made me not ride as much. Also, I got more into exercising and working out so it's made me put more time into biking rather than being on the onewheel.
This video fails to mention the main advantages of the rails. The lowered center of gravity allows you to carve hard fast turns without the board going too far over the heel or toe. When riding in mission or with the nose down, it levels out to a very balanced point when pushback is hit. It doesn’t mention the fact that customizing your shaping settings is a big part of riding with these rails. This video says that they were created to celebrate bodhi’s win, but in actuality they were thought of long ago, and bodhi was the first to win on them. (Dirtsurferz)
Thanks floaty, I know I’m late but tfl just re released wtfs and I’m struggling with the price tag. Not sure if it’s worth buying, I’m trying to find out if they alleviate foot/leg fatigue. I’m an everyday city commuter, these streets suck!
@@themalteseninja8307 I would say if you’re someone who rides at pushback and are feeling pains from that, then these will definitely help you achieve a more level stance while zooming so that should help your foot fatigue a bit.
I'm thinking of buying this Rail today, after using them all this time what can you tell me, what I always look for in a Onewheel and stability when running, that it has less danger of throwing me on the ground
You need to try a Burris 5.5 on those rails! I had my trail pro on at first but the lower center of gravity really cut down the slow speed maneuverability. The 5.5 feels great and gives you that cornering ability back.
@@johnosterman494 Well I'm cruising comfortably at 22mph. Not sure if that helps haha. The board is capable of these speeds without the WTF rails. But the WTF make you accelerate faster as well as feel more comfortable at higher speeds. With stock rails it feels like you have to give it your all to hit higher speeds and feels super sketchy when you hit them. Think of a sports car vs 4x4 pickup. Which one handles better when driving down the road? Sports car every time.
@@ScotMendenhall ok cool that answers my question. I've noticed a lot of other You Tubers ride mission. Either they just feel more comfortable in mission or they havent messed with the other modes. Me personally I love Delirum as well.
The rails look good but the slight angle of the footpad being the only advantage seems a little gimmicky to me for the $420 price tag. I'd like to see TFL make a set of rails that lifts the rails above the axle to actually give more ground clearance. But I've been sporting the Ignite Lift Kit for several months now and that does give an extra 1.125" lift and for the price of $125, and a simpler install than new rails, how could you go wrong?
The slight angles change the geometry with significant performance improvements. Change the geometry of a device like this by even 1 degree has major impact on performance. You’ve done this with your lift kit. By having a Lowe’s center of gravity creates more stability at speed. The angled foot pads regain the lost clearance of the drop, while also banking your feet into the pads increasing grip, control input and traction. The mod is solid.
Ya it's to pricey I would agree. I get what the purpose of them is now but the price tag to go slightly faster in a more comfortable position and not captain Morgan is a tough pill to swallow unless your like pro onewheel racer
My currrent rig: Floatwheel 1200W motor with Hoosier whisper. Vesc 6.6 open source ESC CBXR battery WTF rails. Had a guy custom machine matching axle blocks for the conversion. 50% more power, 50% more battery, and 20% higher current. I’m a 200lb rider over 6’ and I still get 20mph with about an hour worth of battery. Total cost: $1800 including the authentic FM XR bumper and fender. DIY WTF onewheel for less than an XR!!!
@@ScotMendenhall ah ok... footage was very minimal and brief. It was in a very brief and darkly lit Instagram story a few days ago. Looks like they are making progress because they showed it in action unless that was another product that has different bolt configurations at the center of the rails. 😀
Unfortunately I have seen Jeff say it won't happen for a pint. I believe that's because you need custom shaping to compensate for the controller being angled. But never say never! Someone might find a way. I think it would be great with the shorter base of the pint.
400+ bucks Is quite a lot when you could just send a picture and general measurements to a local cnc shop and pay like....100 bucks for the exact same shape and size.
Yo @Scot that carhart work apron is fire brotha! Let's get to woooork!! Lil pricey but cool product, WTF plate paired with this alternate tire- looks worth it, 21-22mph and limited pushback? Def sounds like flirting w/ disaster for me haha, but if it makes local veggie runs quicker then it's super worth it! Also, what was that mysterious veggie i gotta know.. Was it deemed a fruit after all ? 😆
I've also been wondering this. If the whole purpose is so when riding past push back your nose is lower and not up at the ceiling then it's really a comfort / stability thing while riding fast rather the. Being forced captian morgan. Personally I think float life makes great products but for the price I just don't see the point of putting on these rails for most riders. If your racing sure then maybe since you would have a more stable ride when pushing the boards limits bit for average Joe no reason to get them.
There are multiple reasons for homebrew Growler rails and WTF Rails. 1) they are 7075 aircraft aluminum (very strong) so the don’t bend, especially for free style riders. 2) they have stronger treads so they don’t strip (I’ve already had two screws strip on my front footpad in 4 months), 3) Growler rails are a little shorter for more control, better for free style, 4) WTF rails are great for riding trails, Scott just had the wrong settings on in this video. They are way better for trail riding with the elevated foot pads and the incline of the footpads provide a more controlled stance. The are a bit pricey but they are worth it! Either option is one you won’t regret!
How fast can these actually get?One place it said 20 mph was top speed but this is showing it goes over 20mph.Is anyone around that Veggie stand at all?The vegetable stand person is awfully trusting of people.Some people would rob the vegetables or the money with no one around.
Please adjust your video settings so that everything you’re holding isn’t out of focus. Narrower aperture, autofocus, doesn’t matter, just stop showing us blurry products
I won’t buy those rails till they make rail protection items for it. I hate the color gold and I hate scratches. I wouldn’t spend that type of money to just have my rails bare to the elements
I like the design. Gold looks terrible. Would never buy it. Hopefully they have some options like black, orange, yellow, blue, hell, even brown would be better than gold. It just looks so cheap and gaudy. Sorry, I freaking hate gold.
@@TheHitman- that's a pretty dumb assertion. It is incredibly gaudy - like Donald Trump toilet gaudy. It's the worst color that exists. I fucking hate gold (color). It's probably the worst decorative color that exists. I've got quite a good career and can afford quite a bit of actual gold, which has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about. Gold sucks (the color).
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Yo Scott, you gotta change the shaping! The angle up makes it ride nose low in Mission which is great if you ride past pushback the entire time while racing. For a more well rounded slower speed setting, you'll want to angle the nose up in Custom between 2-3 degrees. Give that a go and that will solve your nose low issue. Great review!
Ok did that and love it. Thanks for the idea and also for such a great rail.
@@ScotMendenhall Opinion of WTF rails after several months owning them now?
Did you use the custom settings posted by Jeff Mccosker for these rails? I believe it’s +2/+2.5/7
Oh shoot i forgot to say that I left the setting all normal.
No wonder the nose felt so low for you then
this is what we've been waiting for ! xD
love getting more content :D
we are trying to stay on top of all the gear that is dropping for OW.
Now available but sold out is a heatsink called the tilt kit so you can ride in any normal mode instead of just in custom. Check it out.
Ok cool
Beautiful
I just bought a OneWheel, I love it. Been watching your videos nonstop for two weeks. Thanks for putting out such great videos for us.
yep thanks for watching them
Still ride your one wheel?
@@TheHitman- nah, I did that first summer. I had a crash or two that made me not ride as much. Also, I got more into exercising and working out so it's made me put more time into biking rather than being on the onewheel.
This video fails to mention the main advantages of the rails.
The lowered center of gravity allows you to carve hard fast turns without the board going too far over the heel or toe.
When riding in mission or with the nose down, it levels out to a very balanced point when pushback is hit.
It doesn’t mention the fact that customizing your shaping settings is a big part of riding with these rails.
This video says that they were created to celebrate bodhi’s win, but in actuality they were thought of long ago, and bodhi was the first to win on them. (Dirtsurferz)
Thanks floaty, I know I’m late but tfl just re released wtfs and I’m struggling with the price tag. Not sure if it’s worth buying, I’m trying to find out if they alleviate foot/leg fatigue. I’m an everyday city commuter, these streets suck!
@@themalteseninja8307 I would say if you’re someone who rides at pushback and are feeling pains from that, then these will definitely help you achieve a more level stance while zooming so that should help your foot fatigue a bit.
I'm thinking of buying this Rail today, after using them all this time what can you tell me, what I always look for in a Onewheel and stability when running, that it has less danger of throwing me on the ground
maybe do a time lapse / build montage in the future .. just speed or cut it up with some music and you got yourself 8 mazing seconds !!
good call
would a fender work on it and custom bumpers as well? what about sidekicks? these are the only things that make me steer away.
Custom bumper and fender will work on it but not sidekicks
Can anyone explain what’s a growler? Still don’t know.
Shorter rails with XR motor and battery with pint tire
That sounds insane 🤯
Bro!!! That looks so cool!!!
It is!
You need to try a Burris 5.5 on those rails! I had my trail pro on at first but the lower center of gravity really cut down the slow speed maneuverability. The 5.5 feels great and gives you that cornering ability back.
Thanks for the tip!
How would they do on a V1,. Would it increases top speed on it?
I would think so.
I need this for my Xr!
You'll love it
It looks a lot like the angle of using that ignite lift kit but lowered. Which they say you can use it that way
Really that's cool.
They look awesome
I really like the look of the rails
You technically get more clearance with the WTF rails. You need to ride faster to lift the nose. I love mine. Best setup for racing hands down.
Does it really increased the top speed?
It's really a great ride
yes
@@johnosterman494 Well I'm cruising comfortably at 22mph. Not sure if that helps haha. The board is capable of these speeds without the WTF rails. But the WTF make you accelerate faster as well as feel more comfortable at higher speeds. With stock rails it feels like you have to give it your all to hit higher speeds and feels super sketchy when you hit them. Think of a sports car vs 4x4 pickup. Which one handles better when driving down the road? Sports car every time.
Looking sharp Scott
Thanks
I would buy those oaklys from an amazon link if you know the models
www.Oakley.com and they are Sutros
Amazing, thanks! Found them here: amzn.to/3zU5MbQ
So clean without the fender. Love the all black with the gold. 🥶 ❄️
Total transformation, the WTF rails are game changers in innovating the game! Keep up the great content bro 🎥🙌🔥
Hey luke! Have they send WTF rails to england?
Do you own a pair? Are they worth 500 bucks
@@ScotMendenhall Not yet bro! I’d love to review a pair 🤘🔥🎥
Are you in Mission when you ride most of the time?
nope delirium
@@ScotMendenhall ok cool that answers my question. I've noticed a lot of other You Tubers ride mission. Either they just feel more comfortable in mission or they havent messed with the other modes. Me personally I love Delirum as well.
The rails look good but the slight angle of the footpad being the only advantage seems a little gimmicky to me for the $420 price tag. I'd like to see TFL make a set of rails that lifts the rails above the axle to actually give more ground clearance.
But I've been sporting the Ignite Lift Kit for several months now and that does give an extra 1.125" lift and for the price of $125, and a simpler install than new rails, how could you go wrong?
The nose clearance stays the same while lowering your center of gravity, making the board much more stable and consequently, able to ride faster.
The slight angles change the geometry with significant performance improvements. Change the geometry of a device like this by even 1 degree has major impact on performance. You’ve done this with your lift kit. By having a Lowe’s center of gravity creates more stability at speed. The angled foot pads regain the lost clearance of the drop, while also banking your feet into the pads increasing grip, control input and traction.
The mod is solid.
Ya it's to pricey I would agree. I get what the purpose of them is now but the price tag to go slightly faster in a more comfortable position and not captain Morgan is a tough pill to swallow unless your like pro onewheel racer
Love that hat
Those sunglasses seem dope for riding. Do you happen to know the model? Oakley right?
Yep Oakley and Sutro is the model
My currrent rig:
Floatwheel 1200W motor with Hoosier whisper.
Vesc 6.6 open source ESC
CBXR battery
WTF rails.
Had a guy custom machine matching axle blocks for the conversion. 50% more power, 50% more battery, and 20% higher current.
I’m a 200lb rider over 6’ and I still get 20mph with about an hour worth of battery.
Total cost: $1800 including the authentic FM XR bumper and fender.
DIY WTF onewheel for less than an XR!!!
Looking for Damascus looking grip tape and my build full gunmetal… beskar one wheel
I would love to see a pic of the board. DM on Ig
Great video like always!!! Do you think they’ll do a fender for it & sidekicks?
stock fender will fit on it. Sidekicks will now not
scot she won the last one wheel give away though ! haha
yes she did.
Yup and don't you forget it!
Now you guys gotta do a race here in Sacramento!
Yes we do
I've never been there!
Have you seen the new rails the Floatlife is working on that appear to be like WTF rails but modular? They look cool🤙🏽
I have seen post about them but no footage.
@@ScotMendenhall ah ok... footage was very minimal and brief. It was in a very brief and darkly lit Instagram story a few days ago. Looks like they are making progress because they showed it in action unless that was another product that has different bolt configurations at the center of the rails. 😀
Can’t wait to get those for my Pint …If a Pint version exists !? 🧐🤨😝
it doesn't. Time to buy a xr.
Unfortunately I have seen Jeff say it won't happen for a pint. I believe that's because you need custom shaping to compensate for the controller being angled. But never say never! Someone might find a way. I think it would be great with the shorter base of the pint.
Not yet.
1 week
Those are the most gorgeous rails I've seen yet. Whats the cost on those bad boys? Good for XR? Love that clearance. Keep the stoke, keep afloat!!!
Like 500
Yes they are!
Ooh.. I want it.. But I'll wait until I'm no longer under warranty
good call.
why does your blue button look teal
I had a light on me and the board and that would have changed it.
The unknown veg looks like celeriac 🥬
You sound very similar to Lewis @ Unbox Therapy
I'll have to check him out.
Scot’s new nickname, “The Winningest”
Winner is no longer it.
I've gotta say I like it. Hahaha
2:52 Just guna casually mention SD and not give any further details? 🤨 y'all hitting up the hills/bad lands or what?
Hi Scot, those WTF rails are intriguing, but WTF did your hair go? (Not a diss, was just surprised :) )
It was time for a change
Silly to review without doing the custom shaping they tell you to....
Ha I wanted to know what it felt like with out that. Next video will be a follow up with all that in it.
@@ScotMendenhall looking forward to the custom shaping review 🤙🏽
Over 400$ for those. That’s some insane pricing.
400+ bucks Is quite a lot when you could just send a picture and general measurements to a local cnc shop and pay like....100 bucks for the exact same shape and size.
Yo @Scot that carhart work apron is fire brotha! Let's get to woooork!! Lil pricey but cool product, WTF plate paired with this alternate tire- looks worth it, 21-22mph and limited pushback? Def sounds like flirting w/ disaster for me haha, but if it makes local veggie runs quicker then it's super worth it!
Also, what was that mysterious veggie i gotta know.. Was it deemed a fruit after all ? 😆
Yes there is a fine line with the speed and falling.
Besides looking cool- I don’t see the point of having rails. Can someone explain to me what their purpose is?
I've also been wondering this. If the whole purpose is so when riding past push back your nose is lower and not up at the ceiling then it's really a comfort / stability thing while riding fast rather the. Being forced captian morgan. Personally I think float life makes great products but for the price I just don't see the point of putting on these rails for most riders. If your racing sure then maybe since you would have a more stable ride when pushing the boards limits bit for average Joe no reason to get them.
There are multiple reasons for homebrew Growler rails and WTF Rails. 1) they are 7075 aircraft aluminum (very strong) so the don’t bend, especially for free style riders. 2) they have stronger treads so they don’t strip (I’ve already had two screws strip on my front footpad in 4 months), 3) Growler rails are a little shorter for more control, better for free style, 4) WTF rails are great for riding trails, Scott just had the wrong settings on in this video. They are way better for trail riding with the elevated foot pads and the incline of the footpads provide a more controlled stance.
The are a bit pricey but they are worth it! Either option is one you won’t regret!
@@troyvtuttle pardon my ignorance, I don’t think I understand- what is it exactly that they do?
I simply don't understand WHY they are faster- why can't the same effect be achieved with shaping? Is this some kind of placebo effect?
Pushback happens later. I don't know why but maybe it's the center of gravity
I like them, just don't like the price. I'm going to keep riding mine stock to save about $500. Cool rails though!
Yeah I get that.
What solution get a Electric Unicycle most of them are getting up to higher like Speed 40mph to 70mph!! What happened to OneWheel!🤪
I still think it's a different ride, I'll always want to have the Onewheel as an option! also 40-70mph is pretty dang fast...
@@lilywiener102 Thanks for your comments you absolutely right! But I still the OneWheel Pint Portability and the size still have the power!!😎👍🤙
I need to try one of them. I am with lily that 70mph is really fast.
Someone needs to count how many times he says “STOKED”.
so many times that one would lose count
How fast can these actually get?One place it said 20 mph was top speed but this is showing it goes over 20mph.Is anyone around that Veggie stand at all?The vegetable stand person is awfully trusting of people.Some people would rob the vegetables or the money with no one around.
Kristen isn't coming back? One too many nosedive I'm guessing. She was a speed demon. Lol
I have a OneWheel pint instead of me buying a XR I got myself a unicycle!! Killer to OneWheel XR!🤪🔫
I have never rode one of those
Lmao you had to make yourself a copy huh? 🤣🤣🤣
Please adjust your video settings so that everything you’re holding isn’t out of focus. Narrower aperture, autofocus, doesn’t matter, just stop showing us blurry products
➖⚫️➖💨💨
yep
@@ScotMendenhall sent you a picture of my new XR on IG
$429 UM no
I hear you. They do change the ride for sure
I won’t buy those rails till they make rail protection items for it. I hate the color gold and I hate scratches. I wouldn’t spend that type of money to just have my rails bare to the elements
Don't buy the gold ones if you don't like gold?
I hear you. I don't know if they will make them or not.
@@leeboss6631 because they they come in just gold? you can get black or clear anodization, but fairly certain it doesn't change the color.
Certainly not the most modest!
He likes to talk about his wins:)
Ha I just like to remind them who they are chasing
The word is most successful, not winningest😂
Any way in 2023 to get these for a little less than $400? Lol
I like the design. Gold looks terrible. Would never buy it. Hopefully they have some options like black, orange, yellow, blue, hell, even brown would be better than gold. It just looks so cheap and gaudy. Sorry, I freaking hate gold.
You hate gold because you can't afford it. It's a natural color so no way it looks Guady. 😂 Stop that nonsense. You don't hate gold.
@@TheHitman- that's a pretty dumb assertion. It is incredibly gaudy - like Donald Trump toilet gaudy. It's the worst color that exists.
I fucking hate gold (color). It's probably the worst decorative color that exists. I've got quite a good career and can afford quite a bit of actual gold, which has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about. Gold sucks (the color).