A Surprising Finish After A Tough Day Through Tuscany! | Strade Bianche 2023 Highlights - Women

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  • @JCW86
    @JCW86 Год назад +47

    Great showing from newcomer Puck Pieterse! Favorite rider currently...she has a great personality and energy to her

    • @peterslegers6121
      @peterslegers6121 Год назад

      Her good form and recon did pay off! ruclips.net/video/NEnsCyzwh5E/видео.html

  • @peterslegers6121
    @peterslegers6121 Год назад +5

    Great to see Lotte and Demi racing each other to the line. It's way better than the finishes that are decided in the team's car. I really enjoyed both Puck's race and pre-race impression of the course ( ruclips.net/video/NEnsCyzwh5E/видео.html ). And it's good to see Rie finishing nineth, so she must have made a strong comeback from behind. Seeing both Annemiek and Liane in the chasing group gives hope for some excitement in the races to come!

  • @86309
    @86309 Год назад +1

    sprinting on the hoods.....

  • @sylvainmichaud2262
    @sylvainmichaud2262 Год назад +24

    Demi Vollering stats are available on Strava ...
    Not in watts but, in horsepowers.

  • @JoeBleasdaleReal
    @JoeBleasdaleReal Год назад +26

    2:46 Strade Bianche briefly turning into the Palio 😂🐎

  • @adamgaisser1875
    @adamgaisser1875 Год назад +35

    Puck in 6th place is amazing for a first timer.

  • @gmax6579
    @gmax6579 Год назад +20

    What a great race!! Really enjoyed watching it.

  • @DanielaAngulo
    @DanielaAngulo Год назад +30

    Amazing work by Demi and Lotte. Great riders and competitors. Beautiful to watch that they collaborate when they have to but they race each other if they have to.

    • @daviddanser8011
      @daviddanser8011 Год назад +1

      Demi thought she would have been gifted the win though as she did all the lead work during the race.
      She was very angry that Kopecky sprinted for the win.
      So not that great all in all

  • @nicofico88
    @nicofico88 Год назад +11

    Strade bianche never disappoints

  • @mathewrose2951
    @mathewrose2951 Год назад +4

    If the horse isn't this week's caption competition, I'm fairly certain there will be a mass outcry.

  • @thebigchip
    @thebigchip Год назад +15

    Once again, congratulations to Pfieffer Georgi on a top 10 finish. If there’s a fan club, sign me up.

  • @grey_fox7
    @grey_fox7 Год назад +133

    Faulkner putting Vollering into the barrier...

    • @rockycycling2102
      @rockycycling2102 Год назад +8

      Wasn't intentional, she just held her position

    • @MikeAG333
      @MikeAG333 Год назад +70

      @@rockycycling2102 Oh really? She had two goes over to the right, the second after being touched on the shoulder. It looked very deliberate to me. And five seconds later she was right out in the middle.

    • @Tibovl
      @Tibovl Год назад +20

      ​@@MikeAG333 Yeah, it was 100% deliberate. I'm not sure what she was trying to accomplish and I dont think she was either.

    • @TheSlowoldman
      @TheSlowoldman Год назад +16

      She was exhausted..... solo for so long.... the commenters need to realize that...... look how much time she lost after they passed her...... the teammate could have also moved over and they BOTH could have passed her on the Faulkner's left....

    • @gideonmthembu8693
      @gideonmthembu8693 Год назад +5

      Faulkner was may be exhausted and could hardly keep a straight line. It does look questionable though as it truly hampered Vollerings launch at that point. Cool Vollering won, otherwise this was going to a nasty dot for a long time.

  • @aoe76
    @aoe76 Год назад +3

    Nice ride Cecilie. 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰 Puck is such a rockstar loves her to pieces. No matter what se races it is partytime.. impressive that she is allready a threat to the “Big” girls.

  • @genuinogenuine7232
    @genuinogenuine7232 Год назад +9

    yes one horse power!!!
    735,499 watts!!!

    • @peterslegers6121
      @peterslegers6121 Год назад +1

      Nope, on average a horse has between 12 and 15 horse power. (Stevenson & Wassersug, 1993)

    • @peterslegers6121
      @peterslegers6121 Год назад +1

      @@FabioKasai 'Watt's measure of power output is clearly based on a rate that horses could maintain for a full day, not a peak performance.' ... 'data from the horse pulling contest at the 1925 Iowa State Fair show that peak mechanical power output of a horse is 12-14.9 HP. This effort lasted only a matter of seconds and is probably a realistic estimate of peak performance. Similar maximal rates, when expressed per kg of body mass, have been documented in human athletes.' ( Horsepower from a horse, R.D. Stevenson & Richard J. Wassersug, Nature, 15 July 1993 ) So the average peak horse power a horse has is between 12 and 15 HP. A horse running would deliver way more than 1 HP.

  • @mondociaociao
    @mondociaociao Год назад +4

    fabulous race! very funny (horses are the King of Siena, they can't be absent!)

    • @JonathanvG-wj1ro
      @JonathanvG-wj1ro Год назад +2

      not so funny if you're behind them, and I hope he/she didn't injure itself

  • @GuyE.
    @GuyE. Год назад +4

    It was a one horse race!

  • @bobmclaughlin4896
    @bobmclaughlin4896 Год назад +3

    I'm betting on the horse. Finishing the climb in first.

  • @edwinwong9547
    @edwinwong9547 Год назад +2

    Epic finish, congrats Vollering. Love that bold SD Worx kit!

  • @kingdave294
    @kingdave294 Год назад +3

    the actual highlight was given 5 seconds in this clip. Show me more of this horse

    • @kyle_c936
      @kyle_c936 Год назад +2

      I don't think you'd want to see more - the poor thing slid and fell quite heavily at a corner, understandably they haven't shown that in the highlights, hope it's ok.

    • @kingdave294
      @kingdave294 Год назад

      @@kyle_c936 saw that in a german report though.. I want to know if the horse got his treatment and is ok.

  • @pb4055basel
    @pb4055basel Год назад +2

    Great you also show the women!!!

  • @paulsolon6229
    @paulsolon6229 Год назад +4

    It’s 2023, be fair to women. The woman’s course sd take roughly equal amount of time as men’s race
    Same w all races
    Same w tour, 8 stages only vs 21
    Same amount of time on bike racing means that woman’s races need only to be approx 10-15% shorter than men’s
    Come on uci. Do it. Work
    Come on tour aso, do it

  • @rogerboyd1479
    @rogerboyd1479 Год назад +4

    Great race from puck, hope the horse is ok

    • @realshaoran4514
      @realshaoran4514 Год назад +1

      sadly the horse went down hard on a left turn, I hope it didn't hurt too much. And great result from Puck, 6th on a such a hard course, wow. Can't wait how Fem and Shirin are going to be when they start their rode season.

  • @asork
    @asork Год назад +2

    that horse is pushing some watts

  • @johnlinvill8819
    @johnlinvill8819 Год назад +3

    Shocked Vollering only has 13 wins after that dominate season in 2021.

    • @rulifaller8474
      @rulifaller8474 Год назад +7

      She is still quite young, she only rides the biggest races and she is not a sprinter, therefore it is not as easy to win a lot. The only riders that really win a lot of big races are those who are head and shoulders above the rest like AVV and Anna van der Breggen, or very good and sprinty like Vos. Other riders at the top of women’s cycling like Niewiadoma, Uttrup Ludwig or Moolman actually win a lot less then Vollering.

    • @henkoosterink8744
      @henkoosterink8744 Год назад

      Shocked....pffffff.😅😅

  • @davidhib07
    @davidhib07 Год назад +1

    Lessgooooo Champ. We are well and truly in the Vollering era now 😎

  • @tobleramone
    @tobleramone Год назад +2

    Horses for courses.

  • @Crampion
    @Crampion Год назад +2

    UCI to enforce a 6.8 horse power limit.

    • @gcnracing
      @gcnracing  Год назад +2

      6.8 horses on the road would be a shock to the peloton! 😳

  • @PHPW
    @PHPW Год назад

    As anyone dope tested that horse ? Clean riders these days but trying to outrun our Tom ?

  • @danielferreira4005
    @danielferreira4005 Год назад +1

    That's a great thumbnail

  • @MarrafaCycling
    @MarrafaCycling Год назад +3

    I've never seen two cyclists from the same team fighting for the victory in a sprint? what a bitter victory. Nobody celebrated. does that make sense?

  • @user-fs9qf3py9o
    @user-fs9qf3py9o Месяц назад

    The beginning of the end.

  • @alinapopescu872
    @alinapopescu872 Год назад +1

    Such splendid weather!

  • @rulifaller8474
    @rulifaller8474 Год назад

    Brilliant to see Puck up there (and to see her interviews)! This is where I expected Fem maybe, now I would expect Fem to maybe even compete for wins in big races already given that she clearly has more watts than Puck.

  • @DISCOhooch
    @DISCOhooch Год назад +1

    3:53 Dylans wife?

  • @BreakawayB
    @BreakawayB Год назад +4

    🎉The SD was Worx’ing great today!

  • @ronetele13
    @ronetele13 Год назад +1

    Puck! ❤

  • @letsgo_inc
    @letsgo_inc Год назад

    Had to see the finish. Chris Horner nailed it on the head, this wasn't a happy finish.

  • @xander0901
    @xander0901 Год назад +9

    People talking about Faulkner pushing Vollering into the barrier are completely misreading the situation. It’s not a field sprint so she has no obligation to hold her line. It was a smart tactical move to make Vollering go around her. If you don’t like it, maybe bike racing isn’t for you.

    • @Joeonline26
      @Joeonline26 Год назад +1

      "Maybe bike racing isn't for you" - I guarantee you've been watching bike racing for less than 5 years and have never raced yourself at any high level. Shut up dude🤣🤣

    • @rulifaller8474
      @rulifaller8474 Год назад +2

      I do agree that people make a bit too much of it as Faulkner was completely spent and maybe not thinking very clearly. But what you are saying is not accurate either, if that would be true riders could be riding others off the road and into a field or an abyss at will, which is obviously nonsense.

    • @andrewmorris9013
      @andrewmorris9013 Год назад +1

      This isn't some local crit where clueless amateurs try to make each other crash for two hours, these are professional riders. Just because swerving all over the road is not explicitly banned, that doesn't mean you should do it, because you will not make any friends among fans or your fellow pros.

    • @UbzUnclemax
      @UbzUnclemax Год назад +1

      There is a difference making someone go around you when you are fully in front whilst not overlapping wheels yet. When you push someone into the barriers while your back wheel and her front wheel align, get tapped, swerve a flash to the left, then push her into the barriers even more when you're basically just in front by 1 wheel's length: that's ridiculous unsportswomanlike behavior.

    • @xander0901
      @xander0901 Год назад +1

      People here are really acting like this is worse than some of things the great field sprinters like Sagan and Cavendish get away with on the daily. Faulkner shut the door in Vollering and did not ride her off the road.

  • @davehause8571
    @davehause8571 Год назад

    Such a shame the horse crashed out of the women's race.

  • @kaltonian
    @kaltonian Год назад

    good race...looking forward to the mens

  • @henkoosterink8744
    @henkoosterink8744 Год назад

    Vollering: "Kutwijf"....😆

  • @tiagokang639
    @tiagokang639 Год назад

    Loved the lenght of the vid.

  • @lucycat7585
    @lucycat7585 Год назад

    poor horse

  • @Carmai7
    @Carmai7 Год назад

    Jumbo Visma is trying to sign that horse!

    • @headofmyself5663
      @headofmyself5663 Год назад +2

      The horse did crash out of competition in a corner. Wasn't hurt luckily.

  • @PeakTorque
    @PeakTorque Год назад +1

    Women's racing, anything goes!

  • @TheSlowoldman
    @TheSlowoldman Год назад +14

    3rd place was the ride of the day...... Nice job Faulkner!

    • @wingtip76
      @wingtip76 Год назад +15

      Faulkner pushing other riders into the barrier??

    • @TheSlowoldman
      @TheSlowoldman Год назад +7

      @@wingtip76 Faulkner holding off the entire peloton and then two teammates in the finale...Don't know if you've ever raced a bike but people do get tired

    • @simondenelzen
      @simondenelzen Год назад +4

      @@TheSlowoldman look the first one sure could have been an accident. Then she was tapped on the shoulder and looked over. Then did it again. That was just a dirty trick. After she was passed she went to the middle of the road.

    • @alex-p
      @alex-p Год назад +2

      @@TheSlowoldman Tired? ...sure!

    • @TheSlowoldman
      @TheSlowoldman Год назад +2

      @@alex-p absolutely..... solo in front of a Women's World Cup race for many kilometers...... takes incredible effort.

  • @alexaudiovisuals
    @alexaudiovisuals Год назад +36

    Faulkner blemishing her incrdible effort with that move pushing vollering into the barrier..

    • @notreally2406
      @notreally2406 Год назад +7

      Nah

    • @JCW86
      @JCW86 Год назад +5

      And that is allowed in a bike race lol, happens all the time in both men's and women's races. As long as she didn't bump and make contact with Vollering, I see no problem with that tactic. That's how you hold someone off when you're worn out and have very little left in the tank.

    • @JonathanvG-wj1ro
      @JonathanvG-wj1ro Год назад +4

      @@JCW86 she made contact

    • @paulsolon6229
      @paulsolon6229 Год назад +1

      No

  • @argent2345
    @argent2345 Год назад +2

    heartbreaker for Kopecky

  • @Greg41982
    @Greg41982 Год назад +8

    Nice job Kristen!

  • @samsfk4877
    @samsfk4877 Год назад +4

    Terrible sportsmanship from Faulkner, should've been DQ'd

  • @paulsolon6229
    @paulsolon6229 Год назад +1

    Looks like to win one MUST be first into that rt hander 300m from finish

  • @Se0what
    @Se0what Год назад +3

    3:56 I'm newer to road racing so this could be a dumb question but is that cut-off okay/normal/legal? She was coming up pretty fast on the right, announced her presence, and got the door closed on her.

    • @jobvandervinne5348
      @jobvandervinne5348 Год назад +3

      This is absolutely not legal. You can see Faulkner moving to the right at the last second. Even if that was by accident, closing the door even further after Vollering let her know she was there is not okay at all. Dunno why she wasn't disqualified, she would have been if it came to a crash

    • @tommyrq180
      @tommyrq180 Год назад +11

      It was entirely legal or the officials would have relegated her. This was not in a sprint. Faulkner had the handlebars in front and would not let her by on the rail. Everything went as normal. Vollering had to retreat and she did. All on a climb-happens all the time in racing and again, is legal although you always have the discretion of the officials. If she would have crashed Vollering on purpose that would be another thing. Just because someone puts a hand on you does NOT mean you have to give way. In men’s racing at crucial points like this a hand on your rump means NOT move over unless the group is working together. Hard to describe but there isn’t a real racer out there who would argue this point given the situation. My two cents as a long-time bike racer who was a lead out man for some fast teams back in the day. ☮️

    • @Se0what
      @Se0what Год назад

      @@tommyrq180 cool thanks for the perspective. From the camera's perspective, it looked like the was almost shoulder to shoulder then had the door closed. I guess in the end it doesn't matter. Vollering had enough in the tank to just go around.

    • @tommyrq180
      @tommyrq180 Год назад +1

      @@Se0what Appreciate the comment! Faulkner definitely had the superior position-handlebars well in front of Vollering’s. That’s why Vollering could go around so easily without hitting Faulkner. In my mind it was well executed by both women. And Vollering did not need to try to get by on the rail. She had a teammate and risked crashing. Good bike handling on the part of both, as both were in the red at that point in the race. You are correct that in the end it didn’t matter. Good racing. I do not know, but I’ll bet Vollering’s team didn’t protest either. The main story out of this race was not this move but the horse on the course! Vollering would have lost that battle, too, so thankfully she was able to avoid contact with the horse! 🐎

    • @jobvandervinne5348
      @jobvandervinne5348 Год назад +2

      @@tommyrq180 I do understand that Faulkner doesn't have to move over once Vollering let her know she was there but Faulkner clearly closed the door last second. There was a 2 meter wide gap at 3:54 and it is understandable Vollering chose the right side to pass since there was more room there. Then Faulkner went all the way across the road to the right. I would argue that not letting someone pass by crossing half of the road is not legal?

  • @lamf4846
    @lamf4846 Год назад +1

    German GCN are getting race videos out before GCN.

  • @TeacherNickoy
    @TeacherNickoy Год назад +2

    That competitive power between team mates. 💪💪💪

  • @RicDrgn
    @RicDrgn Год назад +6

    This race should absoulutly end with a couple of laps around the piazza.

  • @melaniamonicacraciun9900
    @melaniamonicacraciun9900 Год назад

    Oh yezzzzzz watching the race on TV suuuuper wow indeed

  • @professorvilarbojunior5759
    @professorvilarbojunior5759 Год назад

    rydiculus, same tram in sprint dispute

  • @sylvainmichaud2262
    @sylvainmichaud2262 Год назад

    Demi Vollering didn't hold her 🐎 for sure !
    😏

  • @berekethaile4437
    @berekethaile4437 Год назад

    Is this the most contested sprint by team mates ever?

    • @gcnracing
      @gcnracing  Год назад

      Possibly! It was great to see them fight to the line!

  • @MikeAG333
    @MikeAG333 Год назад +15

    Kristen Faulkner has a bit to learn about manners on the road.

    • @TheSlowoldman
      @TheSlowoldman Год назад +5

      The gal was on her own for many kilometers holding off the entire group and then two teammates.... she was exhausted... you don't realize or think as quickly when you've given everything.... apparently there are many here who haven't given their all in a bike race.......

    • @AndrewDHDavidson
      @AndrewDHDavidson Год назад +8

      The road was curving to the right when she swung to the right / shortest line... before she was tapped on the hip. Even then, she doesn't owe the rider whose trying to pass her and take the win from her the line she wants, she's the lead rider, she gets to choose her line the passing rider needs to find the space to get by. It's a competition not a Fondo.

    • @JCW86
      @JCW86 Год назад +4

      And that is allowed in a bike race lol, happens all the time in both men's and women's races. As long as she didn't bump and make contact with Vollering, I see no problem with that tactic. That's how you hold someone off when you're worn out and have very little left in the tank.

    • @JonathanvG-wj1ro
      @JonathanvG-wj1ro Год назад +2

      @@TheSlowoldman Apparently you have to make this comment to everyone who states this. So by your logic you don't have to think when you're tired... and apparently you are the only one here in the comment section who 'has given their all in a bike race' (as a fallacious appeal to authority)

    • @TheSlowoldman
      @TheSlowoldman Год назад +1

      @@JonathanvG-wj1ro Not at all, common sense should make it obvious she is exhausted, apparently sense isn't too common any longer...

  • @Lockeness86
    @Lockeness86 Год назад +1

    Lotte’s attack/acceleration at 3:58 was unsportsmanlike imho. You shouldn’t attack your teammate while she’s getting pinned into the barriers by a competitor

  • @francois-josephguillaume3853
    @francois-josephguillaume3853 Год назад +18

    two teammates fighting for the win instead of celebrating together ... sad

    • @blaizejay
      @blaizejay Год назад

      Thought the same

    • @lengc83
      @lengc83 Год назад +8

      All that hard work, who doesn't want to take the win? Only you mate, non competitive.

    • @beckobert
      @beckobert Год назад +5

      I think there's nothing wrong with battling it out in an sprint, but they didn't even look at each other after crossing the finish line.

    • @DanielaAngulo
      @DanielaAngulo Год назад +13

      it was the most respectful to them, no having someone else deciding for you or "luck". This is a one day race, bah! no bonus seconds, no strategy. Let them do their thing. They are competitors and it was beautiful to see.

    • @MikeAG333
      @MikeAG333 Год назад +12

      It's a race. I don't know if you'd noticed.

  • @AdventureCampingAustralia
    @AdventureCampingAustralia Год назад +4

    One thing you'll never see in men's racing is two team mates fighting it out for the win; it's not good for the morale of the team. They should always decide who's going to have it and cross together showing unity. Seeing both riders after the finish waiting meters from each other, both with looks of despair on their faces, followed by the look of disappointment Kopecky could not contain after the winner was announced, and on the podium, demonstrates my point perfectly.

    • @germanlondono8700
      @germanlondono8700 Год назад

      It's because those teams have never been in this exact position. One thing is a stage race, when there are bonus seconds on the line and the designated leader should get them to secure victory, and another is a one-day race. In those teams, it's hard to see 2 team mates in this position, but I'm sure that, if it comes to it, they will race each other, for instance, in the Roubaix velodrome. Imagine Van Baarle and Van Aert in that velodrome alone in this situation as Kopecky and Vollering; I'm sure that the team's orders would be "race each other", as I'm sure those were the team's orders here by DS Worx.

    • @BoydSpeerschneider
      @BoydSpeerschneider Год назад

      @@germanlondono8700 Oh really? cyclingmagazine.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/557aefe6f3333a54aa217eccb3cd31ce-768x512.jpg

    • @rulifaller8474
      @rulifaller8474 Год назад +1

      I guess you did not witness the men’s race where Benoot and Valter were also refusing to work for each other or together while they were both competing for the win,
      It is just a very complicated situation when two team mates of very similar quality are going for the win in a very important race. You need a very directive DS or a very submissive rider. The Trek situation in UAE had both of these, plus the race was less important.
      Or you need a champion like Anna vd Breggen who has won everything already and has a relatively selfless personality to hand an LBL to Demi Vollering. But neither Vollering nor Kopecky are at that stage of their career yet.

    • @andrasszabo1570
      @andrasszabo1570 Год назад

      I disagree, I actually think that fighting it out for a win is fairer and funner.
      Both riders had the chance, so they have no one else to blame for not winning.
      A decision in the car is more boring, and the "loser" can feel hard done by.

    • @rulifaller8474
      @rulifaller8474 Год назад

      @@andrasszabo1570 I think the clear communication from the car (or the clear communication between the riders) should have been that they should go for it. But now they were both not sure what they were doing, both were not really going full tilt but then they both also did not want to loose, which made it look very messy. More a problem of communication than of decision.

  • @fj4723
    @fj4723 Год назад

    When your teammate becomes your enemy. Great team-building exercise ... Didn't understand why they just called one out to get the win instead of sprinting it out.

  • @danjo1967
    @danjo1967 Год назад

    when you cant win... impede

  • @lilfinesse
    @lilfinesse Год назад

    super strange move by faulkner pushing vollering into the barrier

  • @huwprice881
    @huwprice881 Год назад +8

    Dirty and unnecessary by Faulkner, glad she was swept away in the final. Typical American really.

    • @notreally2406
      @notreally2406 Год назад +5

      Nah. They were going like 5 kph, should have gone for the middle.

    • @tychoMX
      @tychoMX Год назад +7

      Very little malice, the rider is just cooked. Not like they were doing 60.

    • @huwprice881
      @huwprice881 Год назад +1

      @@tychoMX yeh, I guess it could have been that, but Vollering did tap her on the shoulder to let her know she was there

    • @rockycycling2102
      @rockycycling2102 Год назад +6

      @@huwprice881 and all Faulkner did was hold her line. She doesn't need to move just because someone tapped her shoulder. Also if you look closely the barriers were closing back in by design as well.

    • @tychoMX
      @tychoMX Год назад +2

      @@huwprice881 yeah, she did. I've been in that position (of course in 1/100 of the stakes and proficiency). I didn't want to swing blindly to the other side, just getting out of the way in the side you think it's safe.
      The rider knew she wasn't going to contest the win. Not really trying to block, just not thinking it straight!

  • @ndensindensi3564
    @ndensindensi3564 Год назад +1

    Can't believe they didnt disqualify Faulkner for that dirty move on the final climb!?

  • @DISCOhooch
    @DISCOhooch Год назад +3

    HAHAAHHA womens fighting for 1st from 1 team HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

    • @mondociaociao
      @mondociaociao Год назад +6

      typical poor little man, inferiority complex (women so scaring for you). They cooperate all the race, only in the last meters their team allow them compete to define who will be the leader of the rest of the season.

    • @DISCOhooch
      @DISCOhooch Год назад

      @@mondociaociao When Kwiatkowski and Carapaz's finish to arm-in-arm, when Laporte, Roglic and Van Aert finish all 3 together and wanted to give stage in to each other. This is real men, and u just cuckold fighting for woman :D

    • @samuelthompson5094
      @samuelthompson5094 Год назад +1

      @@DISCOhooch They were stage races. Totally different context.

    • @DISCOhooch
      @DISCOhooch Год назад

      @@samuelthompson5094 So ask urself, why in mens racing was without situations like today?

    • @Joeonline26
      @Joeonline26 Год назад +1

      ​@@mondociaociao Lmao you think competing for the Strade win defines who will be leader for the rest of the season? You are clueless 🤣🤡

  • @dukeofistria5712
    @dukeofistria5712 Год назад +2

    Boring
    Where's men highlight?

    • @mondociaociao
      @mondociaociao Год назад +1

      search men highlight... ahhh no, you NEED to say that hates/misprizes women, poor unhappy thing. Go to a phycologist, Duke (ahahaha) of Losers.

    • @dukeofistria5712
      @dukeofistria5712 Год назад

      @@mondociaociao english please

    • @JonathanvG-wj1ro
      @JonathanvG-wj1ro Год назад

      probably in your b hole

    • @mondociaociao
      @mondociaociao Год назад +1

      @@dukeofistria5712 still here? no found "highlights men"... go to the psychologist, please (poor little little insecure "man") "man" than only admire other men... come out of the closet, be happy😄😄

    • @dukeofistria5712
      @dukeofistria5712 Год назад

      @@mondociaociao insecure? I do deadlift. I cant be insecure