Lithuania's CRAZY Overhauled Soviet Train Carriages (Incredible New 1st Class)

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  • Опубликовано: 15 дек 2024

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  • @erikcarlsson2518
    @erikcarlsson2518 Месяц назад +92

    The first class seats are the same as in first class of the refurbished X2000 in Sweden. Quite comfortable and nice to see them elsewhere too.

    • @DS.J
      @DS.J Месяц назад +12

      Indeed! I googled for "refurbished X2000" and the seats are pretty much identical. Oh well, it's good to see that LTG are taking inspirations from the right examples.

    •  Месяц назад

      They are not the same. They are quite similar though.

  • @andressorin1205
    @andressorin1205 Месяц назад +109

    The waste box reads “Mixed waste” in Lithuanian. The English translation is… funny! They probably meant “household” when they wrote “domestic”.

    • @ktipuss
      @ktipuss Месяц назад +11

      Not at all mistranslated. "Domestic waste" is common on waste bins, to distinguish from "commercial waste". Some authorities can fine commercial outlets that put their rubbish in bins meant for domestic rubbish.

    • @gerohubner5101
      @gerohubner5101 Месяц назад +5

      That's exactly what in means in English. 'Domestic' in this case means 'household' and not 'national' (as opposed to 'international').

  • @michaelbruchas6663
    @michaelbruchas6663 Месяц назад +9

    Nice trip report. Am 2nd generation Lithuanian (Scot/Irish) in Chicago. My grandparents came separately from there before 1910.
    Grandpa was a Vilnius “city kid”. Grandma was a rich farmer’s daughter - but unsure from where.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад

      Thanks, Michael! I hope you enjoyed this trip to your not-so-distant family’s home country!

  • @JaNieWie
    @JaNieWie Месяц назад +49

    0:44 this portal is for Lublin, Poland, just so people would know.

    • @janariviik2634
      @janariviik2634 Месяц назад +13

      Someone in Lublin flipped me off when I was in Vilnius last summer 😢

    • @HenBald
      @HenBald Месяц назад +3

      Lublin, Dublin and New York ;)

    • @mikuoctoling
      @mikuoctoling Месяц назад +1

      ​@@HenBaldwell used to, because of obivious reasons

    • @martso9288
      @martso9288 15 дней назад

      ​@@janariviik2634damn bro, unlucky.

  • @KiprasGavenas
    @KiprasGavenas Месяц назад +11

    Love Lithuania from Lithuania

  • @Ugapiku
    @Ugapiku 15 дней назад +2

    Nice little shout out to Siauliai.

  • @TrainspotterFromLithuania
    @TrainspotterFromLithuania Месяц назад +40

    To correct you:
    1. The ticket posts (the booths) are now not working anymore, and you can buy tickets on board of the train, or the ticket machine.
    2. the siemens locomotives aren't LTG LINK, they are owned by LTG CARGO and LTG LINK rents them for "Klasika" trains (the ones with passenger coaches)
    but starting from 2026, they will be removed forever because of the new STADLER trains, as well as the old good soviet DR1'Am/mv's
    Nevertheless, very interesting and nice video! Greetings from Lithuania :)

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +2

      Thank you! Greetings from Denmark

    • @DS.J
      @DS.J Месяц назад +2

      Why are you so sure that they will be gone "forever"? Classic carriages are alive and kickin on Vilnius-Klaipėda route (as demonstrated by this video!) despite Pesa 730 having been introduced on this route since 2014. ER20s will be in use for a long time to come and there is no reason why they shouldn't be hauling those passenger carriages.

  • @TRAVEL.HIGHLIGHTS
    @TRAVEL.HIGHLIGHTS Месяц назад +9

    Wow... What a great Train experience... We never travel to Lithuanian but now we are motivated to visit this country and try this Train Well Done... Great Video

  • @johnalder6028
    @johnalder6028 Месяц назад +14

    Beautiful grand station, the train looked cozy. Good presentation. 👌

  • @DS.J
    @DS.J Месяц назад +19

    Great to see you in Lithuania. I took this refurbished carriage recently and really loved the comfortable seats. Unfortunately, it seems that they're not planning any more carriages to be refurbished like this. I really wish they did, because this is soooo much better than the Pesa 730 DMUs which also have "1st class". Refurbishment was done in Latvia.
    As for "quiet zone" stickers, they put them on very recently in all trains and did it, I suspect, not least due to multiple complaints by me about noisy passengers who are often very inconsiderate to other passengers even in quiet zone (talking on the phone, listening to music/videos on a loudspeaker etc.). So LTG put those stickers on in a somewhat annoying but very noticeable location so that people actually notice it. The train attendant also informed every passenger that 1st class is quiet zone which I had never seen before.
    Also, it does seem that seats are identical to refurbished Swedish X2000 trains, like actually identical. Pretty cool.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +3

      Yeah, I much prefer this to the Pesa 730, but I was surprised they even bothered to refurbish these, considering they will likely be gone again in about 2 years - unless they are planning to use them for some other kind of service

    • @DS.J
      @DS.J Месяц назад +1

      @@Simon-Andersen It's a bit of a curious mystery to me too. We can only guess what they're going to do with this refurbished carriage. DMUs like Pesa 730 and shittier 630 will be used on non-electrified routes that can't be served by Stadler battery EMUs. There won't be many of such routes. Perhaps just Vilnius-Turmantas (and on to Daugavpils if it gets resumed) And Vilnius-Mockava where it then continues to Krakow on a PKP train. In theory they could use loco-hauled trains on these routes (and I wish they would!) but somehow I doubt this will happenn. Anyway, I hope they manage to keep it in use one way or another. Really liked this interior.

    • @ltu42
      @ltu42 Месяц назад +3

      @@Simon-Andersen My theory is this carriage is a test or demonstration of the interior materials and design for the upcoming Stadler Flirt fleet.

    • @GordonIsFreeman
      @GordonIsFreeman Месяц назад

      who told you we're not refurbishing other carts? We are it's in reconstruction state. Just need money flow nothing is happening right now like this. You are looking at lithuania like its ruzziaa. Damn the video maker and the commenter - wish you learn something. WE Lithuanians was never ruzzians and never wil be. We are great fucking Lithuanians, and it's a big difference from ruzzians. We are not in any way are ruzzians. We are Lithuanians. ruzzia is ruzzia. Lithuania is Lithuania. FUCK RUZZIA.

    • @DS.J
      @DS.J Месяц назад +1

      @@GordonIsFreeman Sorry, I don't think I understand what you're trying to say. What on earth are you talking about?

  • @michaelbruchas6663
    @michaelbruchas6663 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @jmcortade8161
    @jmcortade8161 Месяц назад +6

    Wasn't expecting a video on lithuanian railways

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +3

      Yeah, I much prefer this to the Pesa 730, but I was surprised they even bothered to refurbish these, considering they will likely be gone again in about 2 years - unless they are planning to use them for some other kind of service

    • @jmcortade8161
      @jmcortade8161 Месяц назад +2

      @@Simon-Andersen I think the same. That's really a waste refurbishing those, knowing they are going to get scrapped in a few years. Unless they're going to keep them for future routes but we never know.
      Also, what I don't really like about Lithuanian Railways, is how trains take way longer between Klaipeda and Vilnius than cars. It only takes 2h57 by car, and 4h by train. Such a shame.

  • @DJTKarlsson
    @DJTKarlsson Месяц назад +4

    Well made video Simon! I travelled with this in January this year from Klaipeda to Vilnius (and back). Very pleasant! Way more nice intact and cleaned then the Öresund trains back home :)
    Hope your stay in Lithuania was fine!
    Let me know if you ever in Klaipeda again, a beer is on me ;)

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +2

      Glad you enjoyed it! It is indeed much better than Öresundståg, but hopefully we'll soon see SJ refurbished X2000 cross the bridge into Denmark that has the same seats in first :D

  • @mariadelmarjimenezarroyo
    @mariadelmarjimenezarroyo Месяц назад +6

    Excellent video thanks. Sorry for disturbing saying the same in each video Simon

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +1

      No worries Maria im glad you like my videos :D

  • @ggreg2258
    @ggreg2258 Месяц назад +3

    I agree; beautiful station.

  • @robertheinrich2994
    @robertheinrich2994 Месяц назад +2

    this is a surprisingly nice train. for obvious reasons, there are still some features lacking, but it was an impressive attempt to do something with these old cars.

  • @NormanAllen-ps9ju
    @NormanAllen-ps9ju Месяц назад +1

    Very nice ,informative , and well done ! I would have liked a look at the menu .

  • @gianluigirupel7957
    @gianluigirupel7957 Месяц назад +2

    Very clean station

  • @NickBurman
    @NickBurman Месяц назад +7

    Trenitalia did a similar conversion some time ago by taking former "Grand Comfort" compartment coaches and turning them into open plan 1st class vehicles for use on "Frecciabianca" trains. They share the same seat spacing issues with the LG conversions...

    • @falco3471
      @falco3471 Месяц назад +1

      sadly that project did not go so well

  • @grizeldiSLO
    @grizeldiSLO Месяц назад +8

    That's one funny looking ER20, I didn't know they also made EuroRunners with Vectron's facemask.

    • @railfanlt
      @railfanlt Месяц назад +3

      Wrong. Vectrons family introduced in 2010. These ER20CF built in 2007.

    • @ignaloidas
      @ignaloidas Месяц назад +4

      It's technically ER20CF, it got quite a few changes from a regular EuroRunner, including that they have 6 axles instead of usual 4. Pretty sure they're unique to Lithuania.

    • @railfanlt
      @railfanlt Месяц назад +1

      @@ignaloidas yes, specially built for Lithuania 44 units in summary.

  • @ExplorebyRail
    @ExplorebyRail Месяц назад +4

    wow, they really made something out of those carriages!

  • @Letsgobyland
    @Letsgobyland Месяц назад +3

    i took this one but old version and it was really good! its good you can still find some older trains!

  • @vernongoodey5096
    @vernongoodey5096 Месяц назад +2

    Much better than when I took this train with a TEP70 locomotive and shared a compartment with a violent drunk trying to talk to me in the local lingo and me only speaking English 😂 Thank god I’m half Viking half Anglo Saxon

  • @naglislaurinaitis7301
    @naglislaurinaitis7301 Месяц назад +1

    Fun fact: the train bridge in jonava was renovated not long ago.

  • @Powell2023
    @Powell2023 25 дней назад

    I got the train from Vilnius to Kaunas and was surprised at how nice the train was

  • @arteeyq
    @arteeyq Месяц назад +2

    I've ridden these in the 90s and early 2000s when they were still very soviet-like. Few things that stood out back then were: loud noise, poor temperature, and the smell from lead locomotive - the latter I reckon is no longer a thing with these modern replacements. Judging from the video sound inside is pretty tame, and seeing people with their coats off suggests temperature is regulated now as well. Probably a niche thing to bring up since these qualities are normalized, but the overhaul is admirable considering the rough bare-metal carriage is once was. The ride does look a little shaky, hard to tell from the video how it compares to other modern carriages. Overall great overview!

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you! Its definitely much nicer now and almost as good as something much newer :D

    • @ExodentalCADAcademyofNorth
      @ExodentalCADAcademyofNorth Месяц назад +1

      I was also riding old school train from Vilnius to Plungė (North East from Klaipėda) in 1980s and as a kid I was amazed why I could see rails from in wagon toilet 😁That's bonkers!
      In 2000s I took train from Kaunas to Vilnius and got again soviet train with very old carriage on wooden bench and with gaping and leaking roof over my head. Temperature was mildly higher than outside.
      Now what you are showing is astonishing upgrade from those utilitarian Soviet cars to sort of Eastern Pullman's 😅

  • @petrkan8792
    @petrkan8792 Месяц назад +10

    4:02 is that a giant statue of Tony Soprano ?

    • @DS.J
      @DS.J Месяц назад +6

      It is indeed.

    • @petrkan8792
      @petrkan8792 Месяц назад

      @@DS.J Any idea what is 10 meter tall statue of Tony Soprano doing in Lithuania's train station ?

    • @ignaloidas
      @ignaloidas Месяц назад +6

      @@petrkan8792 There's a bar there, and they thought it'd be fun to have a 10 meter tall statue of Tony Soprano.

    • @petrkan8792
      @petrkan8792 Месяц назад +1

      @@ignaloidas ou, thats cool

    • @sabakag
      @sabakag Месяц назад +3

      ​@@petrkan8792 I read that there was some competition for the artists. And one of them made this statue for some reason. After the competition was over the bar probably bought it.

  • @capitanulcacaoernesto8215
    @capitanulcacaoernesto8215 Месяц назад +2

    4:04 is that a statue of Tony Soprano 🤣🤣🤣

  • @dainiusm5436
    @dainiusm5436 Месяц назад +3

    Lithuania 👍

  • @one_under_all
    @one_under_all Месяц назад +1

    3:44 those seats are the same as SJs refurbished “new” x2000

  • @DodoGTA
    @DodoGTA Месяц назад +5

    0:48 That city is actually Lublin in Poland
    1:45 I mean I brought a wrapper of a Gotina chocolate bar from Latvia to Lithuania (which could be considered international trash) but the Lithuanian translation means "mixed waste" (just like another commenter mentioned)
    1:53 I can see the escalator is blocked off (which wasn't the case when I visited the station during the renovation)
    1:58 When I last visited another Lithuanian railway station, the ticket office wasn't open (so in that case the options were the (broken) ticket machine which only accepts cards or buying from the conductor directly which might not work for reservation-required trains and adds an extra 3€ fee if the ticket office is actually open; the "Perlas" terminals inside supermarkets or even dedicated places can also be used for buying tickets but I haven't tried that option yet)
    2:20 The Vilnius railway station had a different announcement system with older screens and a different voice (this was replaced with an unified one that's present in more railway stations including my station)
    2:26 Right now those train services terminate in Kena (outside of the international platforms) instead (those platforms are still used as a technical stop for the RZD services from Kaliningrad but of course no passengers can board or get off there)
    Also there were services to Kyiv, St. Petersburg and Moscow from this station before COVID
    3:20 Those modernized 1st-class carriages are definitely a new addition (I think previously this carriage would be a 4-berth kupe one)
    3:31 I think only the 730ML trains have proper level boarding (and maybe the EJ575)
    7:40 I never saw this pole before (maybe it's electrification-related?)
    7:45 This is also the point where you change to the Riga train if you're traveling from Klaipėda
    8:36 I think the new Stadler FLIRT trains will also have vending machines (and the 730ML/EJ575 trains previously had dedicated coffee vending machine areas but those were removed)
    9:03 I wasn't allowed to go through the carriages before (I was at the carriage shown in 9:17)
    9:17 This was actually sold as the 1st class carriage before (now they're packing more people there)

  • @blk-00000
    @blk-00000 Месяц назад

    Interesting, the new seats are the same used in the renovated swedish X2, love these seats

  • @Arturas1244
    @Arturas1244 10 дней назад +1

    this train should long ago scrapped or changed to locomotive, basicaly majority trains are modern ones, but this line has not electrified which they already done, try vilnius kaunas train will be modern no steps on air cushion 2 stores.they transfer many of these in cargo or locomotive type.this train already will be removed basically train got retrofited and got longer period of use, they cant get rid off as its gov comp. same reason you see trolibus in vilnius those old boxes they simply dont brake and city has pile of parts.slowly decresing number as simply all that old stuff build to last for ages with trains easier as its diesel so they can say tu cut emmisions, but trolibus they are fully electric 40 years still rolling

  • @ernisj.8087
    @ernisj.8087 Месяц назад +7

    The term "post soviet, former soviet" it starts to iritate. Just like visiting USA and calling it "post British Empyre country" or Germany "former nazzi country" or. Any other..whatever ..former country.😊

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +2

      It's not a reference to Lithuania as a country, which is very much not Soviet! It's about the design of the train carriages themselves. These big, bulky carriages are commonly referred to as Soviet carriages because they were built and popularized in the Soviet Union and continue to be produced in countries like Ukraine and Russia. The ones here in Lithuania were actually built in Russia after the fall of the Union :-)

  • @marcin_kalbarczyk
    @marcin_kalbarczyk День назад

    Cant wait to ride the Warsaw-Tallin train.

  • @mratp123
    @mratp123 Месяц назад +3

    Rail Baltica is not only a connection between the Baltics, but also with the European rail network. Please mention it when speaking about the project, otherwise it's not that grandiose at all😊😅

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +1

      I will remember next time for my future lithuania videos!

    • @edmundas919
      @edmundas919 Месяц назад +1

      It's only connection with standard gauge rails. Right now Baltics use wider (Russian) gauge rails, so you need to switch trains at Polish-Lithuanian border. For passengers it's nothing to jump from one train to another, but for cargo train to reload all cargo to another railcars costs time and money, so Rail Baltica is kind of big deal.

  • @rogerpetersson9624
    @rogerpetersson9624 Месяц назад +2

    Hi Simon it looks like the same footchairs that are in the rebuilt sj X2000? You always have very nice movies.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад

      It is the same chairs, still haven't had luck and gotten one of the new X2000 yet.

  • @per-olamjomark7452
    @per-olamjomark7452 Месяц назад

    The armchairs look very much like the ones in the refurbished Swedish X2000 carriages. Even the buttons are the same.

  • @aviano72
    @aviano72 Месяц назад +2

    Great job with the refurbishment
    Domestic Waste ? I feel it's a bit of lost in translation

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад

      Yeah for sure, something went wrong when they translated it :P

  • @gurralurra
    @gurralurra Месяц назад +1

    Giirl those are the exact same seats as on the refurbished x2000 trains in sweden, also it would be such a waste if they took these nice trains out of service

  • @protogen_1414
    @protogen_1414 Месяц назад +1

    that's a pre-Series Vectron

  • @vladimiradoshev5310
    @vladimiradoshev5310 Месяц назад

    Cool, interesting. Are there sleeping berths on the train? Because you showed them briefly but didn't go into details

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +2

      Yes, but since they are always in day mode because they only run in day trains, I wish there was an empty compartment so I could have shown them properly.

  • @avigdonable
    @avigdonable Месяц назад +5

    These refurbished coaches could be used by an open-access train service providers like Flixtrain once the competitors are allowed in LT. Vilnius-Klaipeda is one of a few profitable routes. P.S. domestic waste hehehe

    • @Kletterhaus
      @Kletterhaus Месяц назад +2

      Yes and because it's profitable Lithuania should not give it to some random foreign operator. The state should use the profit to subsidize non-profit lines.

    • @ignaloidas
      @ignaloidas Месяц назад

      Open acess operators are allowed, but nobody wants to enter. It's quite hard to do so when the gauge is different, operators would essentially need new trains because there isn't anything that you can get locally(all baltic passanger railways kinda lack trainsets), and bringing something from outside means extensive rebuilds for gauge change.

  • @MantasJ-g7j
    @MantasJ-g7j Месяц назад

    !!
    No ticket office anymore! Just tickets machinese & online.

  • @runoflife87
    @runoflife87 Месяц назад +1

    Hmm, I think those are not Soviet carriages and not all of them were actually used on night routes. Soviet railway had plenty of day-time trains using similar carriages.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +1

      They are mostly built by Tver in Russia, but yes, after the fall of the Union. "Soviet" is a reference to the general style and layout, which is very similar to almost every hauled carriage currently operating in the former Union.

  • @coliukedo
    @coliukedo Месяц назад

    anyway, there are no such long journeys in Lithuania that we would have trains with closed compartments, it takes just 4 hours to cross Lithuania

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад

      They do, however! The compartment car at 9:44 is a kupe sleeper in day mode. These were used on longer trains to Moscow before, but those no longer run :D

  • @redcub7895
    @redcub7895 Месяц назад

    Some of this carriages was made in 2000s in Tver, and another part was built at KVZ in Ukraine; There is no carriages, that was built in Soviet Union

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +3

      It’s a reference to the style of carriages that were popularized during Soviet times and spread across the entire former union :-) - I’m well aware that many of them were built afterwards but continue to use a similar exterior and interior design, albeit a bit more modern. That context is however a bit long for a video title :D

  • @16jan1986
    @16jan1986 Месяц назад +1

    It is a shame that kupe cars are out of fashion as my son, who is a bit of a train fanatic handle modern large compartment trains very poorly......and this is the reason we are stuk travelling by car

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад

      There’s still at least one on every carriage on these old hauled trains, but yeah, most travelers prefer the open ones now

  • @ilyakasnacheev
    @ilyakasnacheev Месяц назад +1

    > 5:40 A really nice day in Lithuania
    Meanwhile on screen: typical crappy, depressive Eastern European weather.

  • @TheWai20050623
    @TheWai20050623 Месяц назад

    but not new model

  • @TheosTrainsWalesOfficial
    @TheosTrainsWalesOfficial Месяц назад

    "From Lithuania with love".

  • @cehaem2
    @cehaem2 Месяц назад +3

    Lithuania is far too small for platkartnyj bunks.

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад

      They still have sleepers tho and there was plenty of platkartnyj on the services from Vilnius to Russia, but yeah makes not sense for domsetics :D

  • @quadroff
    @quadroff Месяц назад +1

    Such a shame there are no more trains to Minsk from Vilnius and vice versa. They were the most convenient way to cross the european border when traveling from Minsk in my opinion

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +1

      I hope they come back once the situation hopefully comes to a good ending

  • @Ghfvhvfg
    @Ghfvhvfg Месяц назад +1

    if it wasnt for the situation this would feel home in russia and the baltics

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад

      Yeah if only this whole situation could be de-escalated and some form of peace could be found.

  • @grodnoregion-04
    @grodnoregion-04 23 дня назад

    вагоны старые и АМЕНДОРСКИЕ😆😅🤣😂

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  23 дня назад

      Would be funny if the video is also a heavily delayed trip :P

  • @sergejskubraks2454
    @sergejskubraks2454 Месяц назад +1

    Soviet carriages best in the world much better than so called European sleeper

  • @matveypavlov495
    @matveypavlov495 Месяц назад

    Is Lithuania too poor to buy 2-3 new trains? The country is small, they don't need more. Instead of it they repair 50 year old cars

    • @Simon-Andersen
      @Simon-Andersen  Месяц назад +14

      Did you even watch the video 😆 It's mentioned that these trains will be replaced from 2026 by a order of factory new Stadler Flirt trains

    • @crabLT
      @crabLT Месяц назад +13

      @@Simon-Andersen Just russians hating on Lithuania, nothing new here.

    • @UMORIEGA
      @UMORIEGA Месяц назад +2

      Katzap didn't bother to watch video or do any research on Lithuanian railways at all?