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This clip is from QI Series D, Episode 7, 'Differences' with Stephen Fry, Alan Davies, Jo Brand, Julian Clary and Dara Ó Briain. 
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Oscar Wilde said, 'women become like their mothers. That is their tradgedy. Men don't, and that's theirs'.
Oscar Wilde also knew how to spell tragedy.
Jo’s spot on. I run the vacuum through the house and think “that’ll do”.
The thing is, when ever I do the hovering any woman seeing it will stop at nothing to point out my lack of afford. So my theory is that women criticise housework regardless the quality, whilst men don’t because we’re happy we don’t have to do it ourselfes
Nope. Hate that. Too loud.
@@klemensk8776 or you're just using weaponized incompetence
I also only go around the middle of the room unless feeling very athletic. I loathe vacuuming, cleaning up after cooking dinner - which is why that job is now my partner’s job and frigging dusting.
@@nox6767 Rules of thumb: It's not RICO, and it's not weaponized incompetence. Hanlon's razor: Never assume malice.
She's not wrong. As a single woman in my 50s, living on my own,I'm so over housework. I'm in bed right now looking at a pile of clean laundry that's on my floordrobe.
I have a chair. This chair is not for sitting. No one ever sits on it. It just holds my clothes. Sometimes they are clean clothes. Sometimes they are clothes that need to be cleaned. I guess it's my chairdrobe.
Floordrobe! That's awesome.
Yep. The floor on one side of the bed is dirty clothes and the other side is clean
Had to get you to 100 likes ⭐
As long as we're at "No need to waste my time" & not slipping into "Nothing's moving on its own" it's all good lol
An exercise bike used to be my auxiliary closet, now it's the chair & shopping cart if I'm not using it soon.
I can't do a floordrobe. Germ-freakiness coming in handy.
At least it's clean 👌
I have this hypothesis that anything can become either masculine or feminine if it's already associated in the public consciousness with already being masculine or feminine. For example, back when most cheerleaders were men, it didn't seem like women even could make good cheerleaders, because it was such a masculine activity, but later, when more women started becoming cheerleaders, men stopped becoming cheerleaders, because it was now seen as a feminine activity. One could retroactively invent any kind of biological reason why one activity or personality trait is more present in men than in women, or vice-versa.
The qualities that various societies think are masculine versus feminine change around the globe and throughout history. Gender construct is man-made and has nothing to do with who we are as human beings. Gender is such a small part of being a human being, but people behave as though it's important.
Basically! It's also why we have women's sports teams and separate competitions, not because women can't compete against men but because men get irritated when women defeat them at something they're both good at. They don't like admitting it's sour grapes (or genuinely believe the misogyny of it) and so the rumors spread that it's because the women would be at a clear disadvantage. As a real world example, there's that tennis match between Billie Jean King and Bobby Riggs and she won. Obviously I'm not saying every woman will win against every man in every sport but just as women aren't a monolith, neither are men and even if men do have a higher tolerance for pain (I think that deserves more research btw) and generally more testosterone for muscle growth in their youth, they're not all uniformly better at it.
Anyway, I didn't know men were once upon a time exclusively cheerleaders but I did know they once exclusively wore high heels. Then the same thing happened with the example you gave lol more or less. There's also the swap between pink and blue in the past (I think in some countries it never swapped) so a lot of things are indeed just societal. And of course there was the idea that autism exclusively affected men once upon a time, when it does in fact affect women. One of the biggest problems in general is just getting enough thorough studies with women or other specific groups to examine some of these assumptions in science.
@@DoveJSno we don’t have intersex sports because men would beat them
@wolfex8383 A comment based on literally nothing.
@@DoveJS
I mean this depends heavily on the sport. It doesn't take much more than looking at Olympic records to see that men outperform women in a lot of sports. The goal of having men's leagues and women's leagues isn't to say "None of the top performing women could beat the top performing men.", it's to put competition on a level playing field where your skills are being tested against people who had similar biological development to yourself.
There are certainly sports where this gap is small or where women have the advantage, and it's hard to remove the element of culture from studies of such things, but shrugging it off as "Men are just afraid women will beat them, actually." seems like a pretty pessimistic oversimplification.
The reason a woman would press that button faster has nothing to do with their endurance, or their number of pain receptors. It's because men have a psychological drive to demonstrate their ability to handle the pain. Women have no such compulsion.
I think it does have something to do with their number of pain receptors but point taken.
While men are pressured to hide their pain for general ailments in day to day life, women are pressured to hide their sex-specific pains, namely those related to periods and childbirth. Furthermore, women are less likely than men to be prescribed painkillers after undergoing the same procedure, and women are far more likely than men to have serious health problems such as heart attacks be underdiagnosed and/or dismissed, with these errors often proving fatal. All this is to say that women's pain should be taken more seriously rather than less regardless of your stance on our respective responses to equal pains.
Definitely has something to do with the number of pain receptors. The social element is definitely there but that does beat out actually physical pain lol
Not in childbirth. I couldn't even help the sounds coming out of my mouth during labour and the nurse was shushing me ha I tried my best to endure it but we are also pressured to keep it in
@@jenster29ever heard a man grunt and groan when lifting a heavy weight?
That’s called effort.
There’s lots of effort involved in pushing an enormous child out of your body through a ridiculously small aperture. It also involves a lot of pain. So plenty of noise during the action.
Julian's joke is so underrated 😂😂😂
his delivery is almost always on point.
It was great. I had to repeat it so to continue laughing.
He has a very quick slick humour. I was so lucky to have seen him in Sydney many years ago.
I'll take "'RUclips videos where the comments section could quickly become toxic' for $500 please Ken."
The Difference Between Men and Women | QI 23.3.24 today i was called a normal bloke...
LOL. I brought the popcorn. Did anyone bring a firehose?
@@likebot. The Difference Between Men and Women | QI 13.3.24 and i retreated to my happy place strangely enough entitled fuck it that'll do. population 1. to wonder: what popcorn? and where's the fire? are they licensed? is bob there? and will they be arresting the drunkard who walks back and forth as he gallantly bangs on the door and threatens those who need the lav????
Yeah..... Tbh I don't think the chromosome thing is quite that straightforward anyway, but I'm not an expert.
@@likebot.The hell yes! Let me whip it out. .....
sorry, wrong clip.😊
Oh how NICE to see men and women discussing this with lighthearted HUMOUR and NO INSULTS. Love the Brits
I love that they had such a discussion, made jokes and were respectful to everyone. It seems like an alternate universe compared to the world today.
I can tell how long ago it is by Alan's black hair....
I missed the l in black there for a second, and was going to say you're either a really dedicated fan or Alan used to be much hairier.
@@lhfirex oh my lord, I wish I *had* said back hair now!
And Julian C alive...
And Dara still has a little bit of hair on the top of his head.
@@CorporateQueen he still is
I remember when this was first broadcast, one of my favourite episodes of QI. Julian was on fire this episode. Absolutely brilliant performance by him.
Love Sandi but miss Stephen.
don't like her and miss him.
As a woman who has lived with constant, multi-source pain for 3 decades I can state that my tolerance of pain seems to be rather higher than my husband given his reaction when he stubs his toe or manages to punch himself in the balls (accidentally!!!) on a near daily basis (eh?!? Why?!? How?!? What?!?!?!?)…though being lacking in the testicular area I suppose it’s possible that I would also cry, curl up into a ball and whimper for an hour afterwards too…hmmm, I’d hope I wouldn’t kick myself in the balls with my own heel occasionally…but who knows?!?
Thing about pain is it really has nothing to do with receptors etc...pain is a relative thing, once you experience a certain level of pain it starts to becomes the baseline and you can then experience more pain later.
That's why women get a big boost to pain tolerance after childbirth and why kids are scared of needles.
Boys being more physical tend to get into more accidents so they probably have a higher baseline than girls(not mothers) aged the same but at the end of the day what really matter is personal experience.
@matty101yttam or else it is because pain tends to build slowly. Eg a toothache will usually start as a littke niggle that then builds up over time. And it's only when you finally get the thing treated and fixed that your body remembers what it feels like to be pain free.
Peer reviewed studies over the last few decades have consistently shown that women have lower pain tolerance and thresholds than men on average for a given population. The fact you're feeling constant multi-source pain is actually evidence to support this theory as your pain receptors are being constantly triggered by stimuli that potentially are not triggering your husband's receptors.
If you're interested, you should look into how receptors work and how synapses are triggered in the presence of stimuli - the less stimulus needed to trigger a synapse, by definition, the lower the threshold. Furthermore, having more pain receptors means you're more sensitive to pain stimuli, which is pretty easy to understand - getting a tattoo hurts more in certain places than in others, for instance - so the fact women have twice as many receptors as men means they're more sensitive to pain, AND feel pain more easily.
This is only generalised, however, you may very well be an exceptional case and your husband has less tolerance/sensitivity than you, but as a general rule, no, women do NOT have more tolerance than men.
@@iceymonster4675 We have to keep in mind the way pain is measured in that experiment -- pressing a button when you've "had enough." That's self reporting, which always has potential pitfalls, but on top of that, you're measuring something that men have a strong psychological need to demonstrate to others -- pain tolerance. Women don't need to prove to observers how "tough" they are. I don't really think there's any way to get an accurate reading of how men and women experience pain comparatively, not without correcting for that. And how would you correct for that?
I’ve seen plenty of tv segments and videos of Men being hooked up to electrical impulses that simulate period pain and the pregnancy and contractions one’s, they’re quite funny as the Men all can’t take it, so I think it matters where the pain is. It’s worth watching just for a laugh, as a fella it made me crack up.
Such fun seeing smart and witty zingers. 😃
The hoover story is why I hardly ever clean. I can't stop myself from doing a near spring clean every time and it just takes too god damn long. 😄
If you have a partner, just make sure you're effectively communicating fair chore distributions and pulling your weight. It's absolutely fine if you do more deep cleaning and your partner does more day-to-day cleaning, but there should be balance so you don't end up taking advantage of someone you love
@@birb7353 I'm single...and I like it that way. Just means I don't have guests over very often...and I like it that way.
@@dannyarcher6370 Fair! It seems my concern was misplaced
Point is, nobody in the house even notices unless it involves them (where's my clean clothes, this isn't ironed, why are there no clean cups, I can't find the car keys)
One of them has a 'wo'.
I don’t know if this is scientifically accurate because I read about it years ago, but I will say it has proven true in my experience.
Apparently, women come home and unwind by social interaction. We want to talk about our day, we want to do dinner together, etc.
Men unwind with time alone.
This can obviously cause issues because it reads as different motive because the behavior is so different. The man is thinking, “Oh, my god, do you not need to relax before you dive into the customer who yelled at you?” and the woman is thinking, “Why is he isolating himself from me? Doesn’t he want to tell me about his day?”
Just realizing that people decompress differently (whether gender actually plays into it or not) has actually helped me out since reading that. I’m personally a burst into the house at full energy mid story kinda person. But I’ve learned that some people (yes, all men in my personal experience) don’t really even want to say hi first. They want twenty minutes of being alone doing something simple or nothing at all and then they’re ready to socialize again. I no longer take that personally.
I an a female who is the opposite. I suppose because I spend my days working in a very interactive and talky kinda job. Get home and just heed peace and quiet for a little bit.
@@lilymarinovic1644 Yeah, like I said, I don’t know how accurate the gender part is.
You're literally describing Jungian extraversion vs introversion - which studies have shown zero correlation between sex/gender and having either personality type. So no, not scientifically accurate at all I'm afraid.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraversion_and_introversion
I'm glad you no longer take those types of interactions personally :)
I had to learn that as well.
Rather true
Some say the reason cleaning the oven is considered women's work is men don't want to do it.
Unless they’re paid to do it. Like cooking: a woman’s job unless it’s done professionally
I wasn't looking forward to cleaning the oven because I don't do it often enough so it's hard and it's at floor level so it hurts my knees. I dumped a load of vinegar and bicarbonate of soda in it and left it to work. I told my husband, saying I'd clean it after I came back from the shops. When I got back I found he'd cleaned it, bless him. I was so happy.
Some men don't clean the oven because it would mess up their filing system.
😅😅😅
@kellydalstok8900 or making clothes or jewellery ... never thought about things that way before
Jo was on fire 🔥 here
how fascinating!
Well, that was funny as hell!
Julian looks stunning
he's very handsome so always looks stunning.
I understand the off sides rule, to the chagrin of many men.
That's also what I root when I was cleaning the stove yesterday 😂😂😂
X? Y? Awwwww.... I'm terrible at algebra!
* drops Biology 101 class *
Oh, hey, isn't that lady at the end from Time Team?!!
All brilliant on Taskmaster ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I just can't get into that show :p
More sensitive and more tolerant
Oh no they changed the offsides rule?
I need Jo’s husband to come clean my house. My husband is nothing like that.
That bloke with make up REALLY wanted to say something, but couldn't think of a witty retort quick enough. Out beaten by Jo, Alan and Dara!!!!
But men would only clean one room 100% and women maintain the whole place at 50%. :)
Why was Julian even on that panel.
The difference is about 35% of a paycheque.
Because they only do 50% of the work.
@@calibrazxr750 booo! Sandi has done WAY more work than Stephen.
@originalindigodingo really? How much does she get paid and how much did he get paid for his final series?
Well, get a better paying job. I don't work 14 hour days on a fishing boat, but I don't complain about not being paid as much as those who do
@@originalindigodingo Maintaining a gender pay gap has helped all economies shave roughly 20% off their annual GDP. Imagine being so fool as to actively choose underperforming, rather than close the gap. I can't believe men who have 'low earning' partners, are really okay with their household income not being as high as it could be. Dumb.
Jo sums up my domestic performance ( although i can clean very thoroughly...i did so for others for over 25 years as a job). My Italian mother in law despairs at me (I live there and think they're bloody obsessed)...i do the absolute minimum - we've survived up until now!
I’m surprised Sandi allowed this one. She’s all for the “men can be women” nonsense
I'd ask my wife that question if I valued her opinion
What's interesting to me is that the y chromosome is passed down from father to son and slowly mutates. That means you can compare the y chromosome of two men and determine if they are paternally related and roughly how long ago that was
As a comedian once said in comparison to childbirth and being kicked in the nuts; I've never heard a man go "well that was worth it, let's do it again".
You have clearly never heard of CBT before
It's rare though in comparison to childbirth
Women know there's drugs available to lessen the pain prior to it happening.
If you like children, childbirth has a benefit attached to it. Being kicked in the nuts usually doesn't.
Women's bodies produce chemicals to help them 'forget' just how painful it was. If women avoided childbirth because it is mindblowingly painful, Eve would have been the last woman to bother.
I bought a book about male-female communication, and there is an intro for several pages about how scientists and doctors refused to cooperate because they were afraid to be labeled as sехists and lose their jobs🤔
That kinda sounds like an excuse on their part. Or that they knew they were sexist already lol.
Which book?
Which book?
Men and women are not homogeneous groups. Also it is impossible to remove the effects of socialization from that topic.
Both facts leave a lot of room for interpretation of perceived differences and with that room for sexist stereotypes.
Smart move to stay away from that.
Fuck it that'll do
You know this is an old video as chromosomes are mentioned.
The older I get, the more I think f**k it that will do
Good enough. May not be "good." But it is good enough.
And why not? I am not going to be on my deathbed regretting the housework I didn't do ...
My observation is that men and women generally have a very different tolerance of 'mess'. While a man might put off cleaning the mess a woman is compelled to clean it right now!
This is my observed difference. As a woman, I put it off. My husband doesn't notice it at all.
I wish that were true!!
not ALL women 😅😅😅😅
You can imagine how well this would go down in today's atmosphere.
i guess it would get thousands of views and hundreds of likes on youtube
@@Tom-sq2yynoooooo, don’t be daft
Ah, the old "everything nowadays is rubbish! In my day we had PROPER humour, that involved mother-in laws, rape jokes and laughing at the funny foreigners..." comment. As reliable and predictable as high-explosive diarrhoea after a late-night kebab.
It settles the dumb question once and for all "What is a woman?"
This is today though?? Seems to be going down well.
The main difference is that us men have the ability to put our brain on stand by mode and women don’t understand how that’s possible.
The main difference is that we men with a brain know how to use grammar.
By "stand-by" you mean "buffering," right?
Is it true that men can just sit and not think about anything at all? I find that concept mind-blowing!! 😵💫
@@erynwald2164 I must have a female brain, then. I also have no idea how that's even possible.
@@peterclarke7240 - Is that a nod to Bill Bailey? Lol
You should have Randy Feltface as a guest.
Agreed
I think my favourite women vs men pain argument is that women obviously have a higher pain tolerance, because after they have kids, some of them are like, "Let's have another!" But you never hear a man go, "Do it again!" after being kicked in the balls.
Because there is no reward when you get kicked in the balls whereas after labour you have a child to love and care for.
well that would indicate Child birth is not as painful as a kick to the nuts and is not a problem to repeat
You've obviously not seen that video of the BDSM bloke being constantly kicked in the balls. 🤣
I did not have that much pain during childbirth. I have experienced a lot of things that were far more painful than my childbirth experience. But I don't think my experience is typical of most women.
Womens bodies prepare them for giving birth for nine months before it actually happens. I am a father, and I was there when my three kids were born, so i don't doubt that it is painful at all, but it would be much worse if their bodies weren't full of hormones and other elements that made them prepared for it.
That's why it is misleading with all these "tests" where they connect men up to "birth simulators" without actually connecting women to them also. Only then would we see how the sexes respond to having a spontaneous birth. If it turned out women still did better than men on average in this test, I might start believing they actually do have a higher pain threshold than men...
Julian coming in right at the end after being silent the entire video with “I think I know some of those sperm” is just fucking golden
There is of course the joke that says although there is the claim that women are good at multitasking, when your wife is agitated ask her to sit still and be quiet, she can't do either!
Those aren't tasks exactly
Well to be fair you can’t shut up and listen either.
On the other hand, you might discover that she can swear and punch you at the same time! 😆
😀@@erynwald2164
So out of touch with the doublespeak. I believe the "correct" wording is now "people with two X chromosomes".
Quite interesting! (In its proper context)
The comments on here though could aspire to be something more interesting than the usual invoking of 'woke' this, 'woke' that, and other dog whistle bigotry
U mean aspire to something u agree with?
A program based on facts. Very rare these days… and that’s “my truth”!
I can't even believe this was allowed to be released into the wild in 2024. Chromosomes are the difference between men and women?!?! I'm shook. Lol.
Because we all know what this is really about, to be very clear no trans person has ever denied that chromosomes are real
Isn't that even Eddie Izzard sitting there? She is awfully quiet during that section and I can imagine why. @@patrickrowan6001
@@patrickrowan6001 But they do deny that the difference means anything.
The Difference Between Men and Women | QI 13.3.24 JO BRAND was spot on with her initial response. beware profile switching...
Dara Ó Briain got it round the wrong way. Men are more varied in personality and physique than women. His explanation about chromosomes made no sense. If there are two X sex chromosomes, then we would expect more uniformity because each gene has a backup on the other chromosome.
Given his recent opinions it turns out biology isn't his strong point.
omg... can't believe they did that to Sandi!
The answer to that question is now further complicated by the fact there are men who believe they are women and women who believe they are men.
and there are people - like you - who believe they're intelligent.
It's not that big of a deal. People have been wanting to gender swap for hundreds, possibly thousands of years. If you don't want to do it, that's fine. There have always been people who don't agree with societies' definitions of what it means to be a man and what it means to be a woman. I don't agree with what society expects from me because of my gender. The emphasis on people's genders is ridiculous. We're all human beings first. I don't blame anyone who wants to explore thinking about gender in a different way. Gender needs to be talked about in a different way.
But trans people aren't actually a different sex. So it's not complicated at all.
An ignorant person who doesn't know the difference between sex and gender and is too full of themselves to ask or listen to explanations, thus staying ignorant forever? Truly, it must be a day ending in "y"!
I knew that mens' and women's brain sizes were slightly different on average, but there is so much overlap in the spectrum that you can't use it for determining if a brain is male or female. There is however a section of the brain whose size has an extremely high correlation with being either male or female, with sufficiently small overlap that it is the main way of determining if a brain is male or female. However, they have also found that trans people have a size of this component, the name of which escapes me, that corresponds with the identity they relate to rather than the one they were born with. They also found this to be the case with people who did not transition but always believed they had been born into the wrong body, thus ruling out the hormones trans people were given as being the cause. So it does appear there is a biological reason in the brain for identifying as a different gender to your physical body.
Jo Brand has such a foul mouth and not really funny when you remove that . Also a bit of a simpleton when compared to Fry and O Brien
According to the woke brigade there is no difference apparently. Some British politicians struggle to define what a woman is.
Everybody can define it. We’re just not allowed to.
Someone just had to make it political, did they
What is a woman then?
and someone obviously has no knowledge of what "woke" means.
@@AutomaticDuck300No, you're perfectly allowed to but freedom of speech is not freedom from a reaction.
If women are so good at muti tasking, why can't they stand in queue and get their money ready to pay?
Let's make sure we get some queer talk in every clip
Great, how can we in the comments do our part?
Women can do several things badly
This is very very accurate