As a former Australian Infantry soldier, i was pulling 2 inch groups at 330 yards every time with a 1.5x optic. Just got to train with it to be good at it.
You claim 1 MOA for Tavor based on 3 shot group, then are critical of the Aug shooting 2 MOA for an 8 shot group. Too much talk, not enough concise information.
+Blake R surely this gun will shoot 1 moa but it all depends on the person shooting and the ammunition used also every gun is an individual depending on how the barrel was broken in to the different grain of bullets fired one gun may shoot for example 62 grain bullets well where another gun will shot them like shit and need 55 grain bullets to shot good also one may have a shorter bullet and the other have a longer bullet and i mean like just the tip um sure you probly knew what i was saying but some people think a cartridge is a bullet but yeah surly a high quality gun like this will shoot 1 moa considering alot of 6 to 800 dollar ar 15s can shoot one moa
When I was new to guns I thought these guys were the shit. As I learned more (from other sources) these guys sound full of shit at times. And, yeah, I wasted a lot of money listening to them too.
someone showed me this. All due respect, as I do love the reviews, This review smells like crap. Ive done very well with this rifle and Ive owned it for 2 years and Ive never had any issues. Rapid fire accuracy, Long range accuracy the works and I think it still puts the Tavor to shame. Also Magpul now makes mags for it at 19.95 now and these mags are as expected, tough
What gravitates my attention to the AUG above all other bullpups is the utter simplicity of it. Simple, sleek design. Simple operation. Simple, no tools required takedown.
Umm, ok. Well I used the AUG for 5 years in Recon. This was leading up to the Persian Gulf War. I had the 'S' version so I interchanged between the standard 1.5 detachable scope and an ANPVS4A (Starlight scope). Most of my deployments were in Jungle and Rain Forest conditions where the AUG reigns supreme. You can clean 80% of an AUG while you're having a shower!!! As for ammunition, we originally used the SS109 with steel penetrating tip and Australia opted for a 1:7 twist barrel. This was an awesome match as it penetrated brickwork as deep as a 7.62mm fired from a long barrel FAL (SLR). If I was an operator right now, I'd be happy to carry an AUG because the AUG isn't a rifle for the range, it's for war zones. The AUG's weight never troubled me....but the Mag60 did.
Im just a stupid civi in america and have built several cheap and fancy AR15s, own tavor x95s etc and I can agree with you on the AUG. My AUG has always been my go to rifle and my favorite out of most platforms. One of the best purchases and reliable purchases I have ever made and it's my baby.
The Nutnfancy reviewer has downplayed the importance of that easily removable barrel. It seems like that having it that easy to remove, makes cleaning and inspecting the inside of it carefully much easier than an on an AR platform.
@@troy3456789 the nut fancy reviewer also said he knew how to load load rimfire mags properly while proceeding to show himself improperly loading the mags to a cmr30 rim locking the mags with 22 mag.
+H&Ks until the end of days! lol the tavor trigger is way worse than the aug, the tavor feels like shouldering a 2x6 piece of wood, the grip is much better on the aug. too many people jump on the Israeli train cause they market their stuff so well. I'll take a aug over a tavor all day every day
Thanks for a great review I was looking at buying a AUG watched many other reviews and yours was the deciding review. I just pulled the trigger and bought one, I always check your reviews and if you trash the gun I'll buy it and it's turned out that I end up loving it. Keep up the good work I can always trust your reviews to be total horse shit thanks.
Nutn, I’d give this another look, man. I think something was wrong with your test gun. Your comments on the AUG’s reliability scared me off for a while, but now that I finally have an A3 M1 long rail, I’m very pleased. Eats absolutely everything.
never shot steel case stuff. All of mine were pre-ban A1 series guns. Triggers were heavier but had minimal takeup, we're not mushy or plasticee. Mag changes with proper technique and practice were fairly quick.
A buddy of mine has one of these and it's a lot of fun to shoot. In my experience It doesn't feel unnatural transitioning from an AR platform and it's incredibly EASY to shoot well. Great gun
Thanks for the review Nutn! For me it's been a while handling an A1 in military service and one really has to get used to the ergonomics: charging handle, magazine reload, the close workspace. But changing the mags is really easy, especially if you intend to save the mag: just rotate the gun so you can more easily grab the mag with the left hand and while pressing the mag release with the thumb you just pull the mag out. Nothing more too it. The "fast reload" would be with the left already gripping the new mag and pushing the button with the mag and dropping the empty one (kinda like with an AK). The charging handle is indeed used with the hand on the bottom (if you know what I mean) BUT it's still too close to operate it easily with a magnified optic mounted (-> Manticore Raptor Charging Handle^^). And I've never seen any problem with the charging handle not locking as on your gun (it was rented?). Maybe it's a newer (A2, A3) issue; hard to believe but who knows... Accuracy wise we didn't really have any "real world" issues, but I have to admit we didn't bench-rest-shoot it for max accuracy. And you would flip the FG forward when shooting prone. Pretty sweet in my opinion and works great! Another real world usage: this gun is pretty lenient versus anything; being it hard abuse, getting dropped from great heights or dirt, snow and the likes; it'll just work. A1s are still in use for that matter. 'nuff said!! What I always liked about this gun (especially compared to other heavy guns) is that although it's heavy, the weight is in the back near your shoulders, so you won't get fatigued; like at all. You can train and shoot with this gun all day without it getting "too heavy to set the sights on target". Also the very easy takedown (we learn and test in the field to take the gun apart including the bolt action and trigger group with eyes closed / in complete darkness!) and fast cleaning is a big plus :-) I do hate the inability to (easily) mount any other type of compensator/flash hider. Another issue: there is no brass deflector! The man next to you is gonna hate your guts after some rounds^^ Non-floating barrel: it's true, you mustn't rest the barrel on the bench/rucksack/whatever you are shooting from! The group will widen waayyyy up! - that's what the forward grip is for ;-) And the trigger really is bad; I don't know about the semi-automatic version and maybe my A1 trigger was just over-used, but although or because the trigger is so... mushy and hard... it's really easy to activate full auto mode! (although one is supposed to shoot one accurate bullet at 300m :D And about ammunition: if it can shoot plastic, underloaded training ammunition (where no actual round is shot), it should easily shoot metal ammo; never tried it though!! Is it the best gun in the world: of course not, but mainly for different reasons than in this video. It has good and bad points (like most guns). And no, I'm no Die Hard (pun intended!) Steyr/AUG fan, it's just my personal opinion. Ok, I guess that's all for now.
There is a bag you can mount over the case ejection. Well, wouldn't use it in combat, but it saves you some time cleaning up the range. www.blaschke.com/Prospekte/HF.html And the Trigger really sucks, at least for people like me, with fine motor skills like King Kong. :D
I have owned my Steyr AUG A3 M1 for a couple of years now and have put a little over 2000 rounds of various ammunition through mine with no malfunctions (Some of that outdoors in different temps). Pros: Very Accurate, Very Reliable, Quick Detach Barrel, Compact Bull-pup Design, 42 round magazines, and is Very easy to disassemble and clean. Cons: Heavy funky trigger pull, charging handle placement, and it is heavy compared to other semi-auto rifles in it's class. Also the high price of it, which I should mention the IWI Tavor has now come close to over the years. Just my opinion about the mag release that it is not difficult after training with it when using your thumb while gripping the mag. I haven't ran Wolf ammo through mine but have read that you must adjust the gas setting (which takes 2 seconds) and it will work just fine. Guess that didn't work for nutn so that may not be true. Wolf ammunition just sucks and the AUG is not the only rifle out there that has issues with it.
Its also one of my favorite assault rifle. The word your are looking for is confidence:). The weapon gives you confidence, the only other weapon i had this feeling was the mp5.
as a left hander who served in the aussie army, I had no issues with the safty, also the foregrip can be raised and you can shoot it up, and I used to love having it up in the prone unsupported position.
The quick change barrel makes removing a stuck casing easier than any other rifle I've fired. Takes very little time. Try it with another gun and you'll be struggling. In addition, nearly the worst stoppage you can get in an AR, the bolt overide, is impossible to have in an AUG. If you want to improve the trigger, get the SA only trigger rather than the SA/A trigger from the military AUG.
I used these in the Australian Army for 10 years. Biggest problem with them was the gas plug had a tendency to blow off when fired, even with blank ammo. Wether this was a design fault or a manufacturing deficiency I don't know but this would be a problem in a combat situation. Apart from that they were quite accurate and did the job, I would still prefer a modernised AR or AK platform though.
The AUSsteyr with the cream and green camo which was used by the Australian army a couple of years ago had issues where the gas plug would fall out a lot. In that version they increased the gas system circumference a bit which caused the problem. They rectified this in later versions.
ColdWarWarriors and 26 - Thanks for this info. Good to know. We have one at the shop I work at, and I know very little about it. Good to hear from guys who have actually used it.
+nutnfancy Did you use the actual adverse setting with the Wolf ammo, as you mentioned around 34:XX? Or did you mistakenly set it to "GR"? There are three settings: 1. Normal (aligned with small circle); 2. Adverse (aligned with large circle); and 3. "GR" for "Granate" (grenade), which is intended to disable cycling of the rifle. If you had it on position 3, that's would explain the Wolf issues. After quickly having another look, you mentioned something like 20 rounds, so that would preclude usage of GR setting. Could you confirm? If you did correctly use position 2, you need to break in it more before using that crap ammo. AUG owners do not have your Wolf issues, honestly. Please contact PJs and AUG "veterans" and experts, and follow their directions. You'll find that your failures to cycle will go away. As for the accuracy issues, AUG users perform much better; but that's not a dig. We're simply used to the platform. IMO, it's at the top-def miles ahead of any M4 platform.
I agree as well. I think he had his gas setting wrong, or was trying to run wolf without breaking the gun in. I have 2 AUGs and its probably the only rifle I have never had malfunctions in EXCEPT when I tried shooting it on the wrong setting. Also my AUG is very accurate. I have shot MOA 5 round groups with several ammo types. I feel like he didn't read the manual, shot it once or twice and ran with his video. Not impressed. The tavor is in my opinion an inferior rifle for several reasons, mainly accuracy (much worse), and heat dissipation problems.
I was thinking about buying a aug with the only reason being it was a dream gun growing up. I started searching armslist and came across a 20in barreled MSAR STG-556 for a third of the price. I bought it and instantly changed to a ratworx hybrid bolt, neu trigger, and put a 20/20 sear. This completely changed my opinion of the rifle turning it into a smooth light trigger pull. I placed a primary arms 5x acss making it accurate with the 20in barrel. Its cool having a steyr aug style rifle, being able to put money into the right parts and place a nice optic on it for $1,500. I really enjoy this rifle but choose my keltec rdb defender for my go to bull pup.
For what its worth, i 100% agree with you regarding bullpup triggers: learn to live or don't. I sold my original Tavor SAR due to the trigger and i wasn't about to put another $300 in it just to get a trigger a little worse than most of those in my ARs. Now the X95? totally different story and keeping it due to the good enough trigger. As to reliability, I've heard others having Wolf troubles out of the AUG but my AUG A3 SA eats it fine. I know though that some others do not. My TAvor SAR used to choke on it too, another reason I sold it. My X95 eats it up though, so....good stuff, cheers.
I've been really happy with mine, I bought it when they were first released in the current configuration a few years ago. I never buy or shoot any steel case ammo in any of my handguns or rifles. I learned my lesson years ago shooting steel case Norinco ammo in my HK91. The coating on the ammo formed a tar-like muck that seized my bolt carrier in the receiver. I had to pour all kinds of solvents down the receiver and hammer it free with a cleaning rod and hammer. I don't shoot the kind of quantity where the steel ammo savings is worth it, maybe 1,000-1,500 rounds in rifles and the same in pistols per year, not counting 3,000 rounds or so of 22! If I do my part my Aug shoots a 1.3" group with PMC bronze, I was able to do that on two outings. I'm definitely not a great shooter, I've also never had any failures to fire, feed, or eject. Compared to my Sig 556 the Aug is a match rifle, but I can do a little better than the Aug with my AR's and SCAR's.
+Dave R Honestly, I was really digging the van videos. I am a poor college student and a backpacker. The more money I can save when traveling the more money I can put towards gear. It is also good to know that stuff. I know a lot of people who would have no clue how to make due in a situation like that. Keep rocking nutn. some people forget that the nutnfancy project is ongoing with the content that stokes you and what you want to show, not focused entirely around guns.
Trust me, If this channel was not predominantly about guns, the views would drop. The van series appealed to very little of his crowd. Majority the the views came from people clicking just to give it a view since they're fans. I did the same.
+Dave R Ive been watching nutn for like 5 years and while i do very much respect his opinion when im looking at guns or other products but there is no doubt the man is cringy alot of the time. AND I LOVE IT. The van video had me and a couple no-gunz buddies roll with laughter we watched while drinking at it was so cringy funny. So ive been loving his van videos.
Used one in the Australian Army for over a decade. Fantastic personal weapon, would choose over any AR any day. Not possible to on personally here due to laws, but as an assault rifle cannot heap enough praise. There are slight differences with the AUSsteyr but basically the same system. Brilliant..!
+Coco in the age of Bio, Chemical and Nuclear weapons mate there is no deterrent in Army size. The only benefit is industrial GP generated. Only difference with a small Military is with no wars we don't go broke😀
+Jesse Simmons we have gone with an update Steyr. Keep with quality. Once your trained it is a fantastic weapons platform. Not for commercial purchase, you cannot buy semi auto here as a citizen as advised due to legislation.
+Dan Ratte Dan when I was in in the 80s we were having issues with the plastics cracking on the Austeyr. They were terrible. We know it was not Steyers fault it was the Australian manufacturer. How are they now?
Grahame Nicholson I got out in 2004 , I had seen no issues with polymers cracking , when I joined in 2001 they made it abundantly clear to keep gun oil away from the polymer receiver components. I was not aware that ADI had changed the composition of the polymer receiver since 1988.
Dan Ratte The ones we were given to try out were excellent. They were Austrian. You couldn't kill them if you tried. When we got the ones made in Aus the plastics in the first batch were terrible. Particularly you had to be careful when getting in and out of APCs. They would get damaged if you hit the armour hard.
This guy is paid off by IWI. I have experience with both the tavor x95 and the AUG, the AUG out does the X95 by every measure imagine able. I would even take an old A1 model above a new X95.
When I was in the army, I really liked the Styer, but at the time we had the F88 with the fixed scope which I hated, later we got a railed version and got a better acog style scope but the rail we had wasn't the same on your version as for the removable barrel it helps with cleaning and jams and we hardly used it as a suppressive weapon we had the Minimi or saw and the good old mag 58, but the Styer was great just needs a rubber but stock
I really appreciate this no nonsense review. I've been waiting for the Nutnfancy Steyr AUG review for awhile. I still have it on my list of "dream" guns on the count of second kind of cool. But at its current price point I can't justify its purchase for that reason alone. Maybe at $1400-$1600 I'd probably get one. Thanks for this review!
+Cody Vega if you could find one with the NATO stock on the used market for cheap, it's worth it. If you're enamored with the styling you'll find a lot more enjoyment in it than he did. He tends to be a little ascetic in evaluating style, so you'll probably still love yours. They had an LE white one I once fawned over...I wonder how much they are now -TD
This is a very dishonest review. It's completely inconcentric with all of my research and experience owning an AUG. This review completely changed my mind about nutnfancy. The AUG is definately worth another look and I hope anybody reading this will completely disregard this video.
This video is shit.. first of all this is an older A3 not a A3 M1. I've owned 4 AUGs and 3 Tavors (including the X95) my AUGs would out perform my Tavors . Ive never owned a AUG that wouldn't shoot 1-1.5" . my two Tavors were 2-3moa guns except the x95 your lucky to get 4-5moa.... Again this is shit review ...
His Yugo SKS video review kinda gave me the hint, then this one sealed it. My aug is ages old (it's a year older than me ) and I've done 2 MOA with it before. I'm a pretty garbage shot too. Extra on the garbage.
Dude this is nutns milage, he ALWAYS says that. There is NOTHING dishonest about it, he posts his data, films his experience. Your all just a bunch of butt hurt fan boys who cant stand the idea that your rifle doesn't function to spec WITH EVERYONE. You got a fucked definition of dishonest.
This was my first rifle, bought it back in December of 2021. I randomly saw it at my local store one day, & bought it on the spot; I was like "whatever, I think I'm a bullpup dude anyways."
Many things are true you said about this rifle. What really fascinated me however was that you managed to get more malfunctions with it in this one video than i did in 6 years using this rifle regularly during my army time and now with the police. Also, your groupings were strange... even with the old standard 1.5x optical aiming aid (i am not calling it a scope in purpose) i got better groupings at a 100m distance lying down. Also, personally i dont use the barrel handle for precision shooting... for me this does not work properly. I simply hold it just in front of the trigger guard, which works like a charm in many situations. House clearing and close quarter situations and middle distances when you have to move from cover to cover are perfect for the barrel handle (also, you can stab with it pretty effectively when using the barrel handle), but wehen shooting at distances in non - tactical situations it screws up my aim.
Wondering if you got a dud. Finally bought one and put 810 rounds through it this weekend, mostly steel cased Wolf and Tula. Ate everything. No malfunctions. The trigger is lousy, though. Otherwise... pretty happy with mine. Accuracy isn’t half bad. Balance is excellent. Points quickly and naturally.
Nutn, I just wanted to say keep it up. I like when you get off topic. I like the humor. and I like the in depth and long videos. They make me smile...They also make me even more poor than I am now
I did have some big surprises in testing this Steyr AUG A3 M1 and not in a good way. It used to be a lust gun and I'd come close to buying one. Glad I didn't. Watch how the AUG stacks up against the other superb tactical bullpups and carbines like the IWI Tavor, Sig MCX, LWRC,and my own AR builds (shown). Accuracy, reliability with steel cased ammo, ergonomic misses, and weight are seriously concerning to me. Reliability with brass ammo was 100% as indicated. Conclusions drawn. -nutnfancy
Well, it’s your opinion, thanks for sharing. As an Infantry vet of the 101st Airborne, I’d carry the AUG over the M4 any day. Not sure what was going on with yours but mine has been stellar.
So much wrong with this... How exactly has the effectiveness of the tulip muzzle brake changed? Have physics changed? I think not. And spinning it off is quite simple. As for the charging handle bringing your hand into contact with the rail/optic, use the underhand method. Do that and you won’t grate your fingers. It’s just a matter of training. The trigger does not suck. Modern shooters have been spoiled by these high dollar, light pull, competition triggers. The AUG was made for combat and that 9-11 lb pull is ideal for that. If you can’t handle a 9-11 lb pull then you need to work your upper body strength! Lol! So you’re wrong there. It’s a perfectly fine trigger. The trigger on the Tavor is way trashier than the AUG. The mag release is simple to learn. There are techniques that can make mag changes a breeze. As for accuracy, I pull 1.5-2” groups all day long with ball and that is perfectly acceptable for this weapon because it’s designed for COMBAT! It’s not intended for accuracy competitions. Same for the barrel...just because it’s not free-floated it isn’t the end of the world. My AUG, and others I’ve fired, will eat Wolf all day long. You must have a dud or a poorly maintained weapon. I’d advise anybody watching this review to take it with a very large grain of salt. This has more personal opinions than facts. Look elsewhere.
I got the very same accuracy results years ago. I'm inclined to believe that the accuracy issue is so prevalent, it has to be either a poor batch of barrels or a poorly designed barrel. I agree about the Wolf ammo. I get way better accuracy with Wolf over 4 different ARs. I agree that if the gun won't shoot Wolf ammo, then the gun is not versatile enough for an all around gun. Everyone says Wolf is underpowered but no one can ever qualify that statement. I wanted to get an AUG, but the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. I have my sights on the new version of the Tavor, the X-95.
Actually, that's the A3. The M1 receiver has the traditional style beak with integrated front sling swivel, and has a conformal rail, or optic depending on the configuration purchased. Otherwise really no difference. Just a technicality. I won't provide fan boy defense of your findings as they are specific to your experience and I respect them. What I did notice though was your muscle memory from AR platforms might have been conflicting with your operation of the AUG, along with not being familiar with the correct drills for it. Ultimately I think this may've sullied your experience some, and I see it happen all the time when I let people handle an AUG without familiarization. The drills, muscle actions, and ergos are sufficiently different, yet small enough that they take some getting used too. And if you don't learn them from the outset, then that learning hill becomes steeper. I had and still have issues with AR's because of the reverse issue - Muscle memory developed from training with nothing but the AUG/F88 in Australian service (which BTW is one of the bigger users of the AUG - be it a locally made version (F88)). Firstly on the quick change barrel, it's use (in service with the ADF at least where the only barrel was 20-inch) is for showing the weapon is clear, and for stoppage drills. Not really for caliber change (what caliber change?) or swapping out the barrel when it gets super hot. Secondly on the charging handle....it's always taught as an underhanded grip, hooking with your left hand little finger and ring finger near the palm. Pull back and then palm up into the locking slot, opening your fingers as you go. Then to release hook the handle back with a relaxed little finger, and let it fly forward off your finger like releasing an arrow, or flick it down with your thumb. The difference in this regard with the A2/A3/ A3M1 have an extra degree of freedom to allow the handle to fold in when it's dropped. The non folding style on the STG-77/A1/F88 is more positive in operation, and less likely to f*ck your knuckles. Thirdly......there's no need to pogo, or run a rod down the barrel to clear a stuck case - this is what the QC barrel is for. If that's what the owner has been doing I wouldn't be surprised if the muzzle crown was f*cked - which might explain some of the accuracy issues you had. (I won't get into twist) IA - (Initial Action Drill) Weapon Fires, Weapon Stops - carry out the IA. (keeping the weapon in your shoulder, dropping the butt into your bicep, or onto you hip - depending on fatigue and body geometry) TILT - the ejection port down, COCK - Left hand off the foregrip or trigger guard, grab the charging handle and rip it back, looking for the ejected case/round LOCK - (these next two are simultaneous -) - roll the weapon counter clockwise (if a right handed person) so the ejection port begins to face you and with the left hand on the charging handle push it up into the locking detent. LOOK - Check for the stoppage - empty mag, etc If the round is stuck in the chamber and won't shake out, then the charging handle is already locked back so you release and remove the barrel, and can then tap the stuck case out or pry it out. Never in this process should your primary hand need to come off the grip unless you need to pry out a stuck case, and maybe change the gas setting on a particularly fouled gas plug. Otherwise a fair review - these are some tips that just might have changed your experience a little. Keep up the vids! Love em all from a closet double owl....
I have the MSAR clone, and it's bloody fantastic. Trigger is light, probably 3 pounds; almost feels like a decent 1911 trigger frankly. Movement might be 1/4 inch and clean break. Takes AR mags. Amazing ergos, very comfortable grip, well designed, quick barrel swap if needed later, rails for all sorts of accessories and optics. Mag change is entirely simple. Right thumb while you grip the mag. VERY ergonomic IMO. Any negatives are entirely nitpicking. Amazing bullpup. Yeah, very very little need for a bullpup at 3x the cost of a 16" AR15 or AK, but in the bullpup world it's a great setup with a great track record (the Steyr of course). MSAR did a GREAT job cloning it. Wish they were in business still.
Either the AUG A3 quality is lacking compared to the A1 series or you just had some back luck with this one. I have owned and shot an 20" Steyr AUG-A1 SA since 1992 (with the original 1.5 ring reticle scope) and it would be my first choice for any serious use. I have won many IPSC-style matches with it and I can shoot from just about any position you might think of. I have replaced a couple of firing pins and two extractors and I have a few magazines that are showing their age by now, having been dropped hundreds of times. The AUG generally is a 1-1.5 MOA gun easily with good ammo. Years back, I had problems with some steel cased Russian made 62-grain ammo with gave a lot of misfires, but I have been using steel cased ammo in the AUG since 2000 and have had very little prolems with it. I have handled many newer AUGS and I have always found them somehow to operate less smoothly than my own example. (Mine still has the squared bolt handle with the little bolt-forward assist button that no one ever uses). And yes, I very often shoot with the folding grip folded up, especially when shooting sitting or kneeling and never had a problem with burning my hand on a hot barrel.
Maarten van Maanen Naw man he's tripping. I've had an A1 and I have an A3 both shoot the same accuracy. I will say I have a better trigger pack in mine now. Even with factory pack average 2 moa.
-Fot the Mag release: Grip the Magazine and use your thump to push up on the button, or slam a new magazine against the button (not the gentlemans way...) -The charging handle: sadly they didn't update it when putting on Rails, because it worked fine for me with the A1 with the integrated sight. no surface there to get you injured. -The quick change barrel: makes cleaning and inspecting easy. -origninal integrated sight: while not much magnification pretty durable withstands even hard misuse (we trained denfense against someone attacking with a stick (empty rifle) and even the hard blows with full force didnt do anything but scratch the paint a bit. -Accuracy: i am a bit dissapointed, the ones i got to use produced these groups at far bigger distance, but i have to say the ones i got to handle 17 years ago were old heavyly used original A1's ones made in austria, never handled the new ones.
I have always thought of the styre aug like the glock, a little more expensive but reliable and accurate right out of the box. Back in the 1980's people bought at the store and immediately shot groups better than most bolt rifles. While a m16a2 of the day was doing good if it got less than 2 moa after sighting in. But that was back then and it still cost an arm or a leg in the us.
The flash hider is not red loctited on. It has a left hand thread with a jam nut. It is difficult to remove but there is NO loctite! Also the rifle in this video is an A3 model not the A3 M1 version. The rail is the main difference. I've had both. My rifle shoots right at 1moa. My AUG A3 M1 NATO has a Manticore folding charging handle. It addresses the charging handle. There are many fixes for the standard trigger. Neither of my AUG rifles has ever had a malfunction of any type. Do not shoot steel case ammo in the AUG. Everything else shoots great in it. During the Steyr Black Friday Sale, I bought a standard AUG stock for $195 with the trigger pack. Worth every penny! The AUG is a great rifle, period!
+nutnfancy Hey nutn, big fan of your channel, great reviews and very positive messages to viewers! Any videos/thoughts about standard (button?) barrels vs cold hammer forged in terms of accuracy/functionality? Thinking about picking up a BCM soon and i'm trying to decide which to go with (my 1st rifle although have 3 yrs of experience with colt m4). Do you think a 16" mid length with a m16 bcg would function well with a cheaper lower such as PSA or Anderson? I would like to keep the rifle all BCM and the lower seems very nice but saving $200 on a lower would help with other upgrades etc. Thanks!
+Henk Van de Goor I agree. Things get improved that leave past used machines obsolete, and used for just the enjoyment of the hobby and not so much modern function.
Agree with a lot of what you said about this weapon. I spent time with it in Australian military and trigger was very unpredictable. It didn't move at all and then "fell through" to single shot. Plastic feel big time. Not pleasant. Swapping a mag fast wasn't easy either. It didn't wanna fall out under own weight even fully loaded with ammo. Reliability of the mag comes from that consistent curve in it which is how it really should be. I dare say that your problems with underpowered WOLF ammo stem from rather heavy return springs that are used in AUG. It takes a surprising amount of strength to pull back the charging handle on it. AR and AK platforms have a lot less tension, and I'd say this is why WOLF ammo can't really handle that return spring on AUG but has no problem cycling AKs and ARs. Weight. Comparing weight of AUG to AR was always going to go to AR since AR is made of cast and then machined aluminium. AUG is made of thick plastic stock and forged and machined steel receiver which isn't thin-walled either. But it is one tough weapon when it comes to physical abuse. Not hating on AR here but its receiver wouldn't be as strong. However the weight is indeed something that needed to be addressed and was, at least on Australian modernization of AUG, the F90. In fact it lost about 3 or more pounds. The fact that you are completely right about swappable barrel, and I personally do not believe in swappable barrels and calibers on assault rifles just like you, is confirmed by the fact that new version of Australian AUG, the above-mentioned F90 derivative, will not have the removable barrel. Small piece of feedback on when you were clearing the jams. Removing the barrel is advised in case of double feeds or when round is stuck. At least that is how I was taught back in my uniformed days.
Awesome review as always, all very good points. One point of interest, your observation with cutting your hand while manipulating the charging handle is why in the Marine Corps overhand manipulation is a big no no on anything with a side mounted charging handle. Also the heel of your hand tends to have more meat on it, and is better able to deal with cuts than your thumb and pointer knuckle/finger. Keep on rockin, love your channel.
He gave his personal preferences as if they were facts regarding the weapons design, and he got some of the information wrong. I wouldn't trust him on this, and after this video; I don't think I ever will.
Thanks as always for the honest review. I get a lot of people butt hurt when I describe how I am disappointed that my SOCOM 16 is at best is a 2.5 MOA rifle. I have sunk a bunch more money (upgraded stock, Sadlak spring guide rod and piston upgrades, trigger job, etc) into a rifle that already starts at $1,800+ and it still is a 2.5 MOA rifle. Some one always chimes in about how their SOCOM shoots sub MOA because one time they had 2 bullet holes end up that close but it's just reality that while it's fun to shoot and reliable it's not nearly as accurate as many other 16" barreled .308s like the Vepr.
Josh Slone go for it, I use it in the army and it's great. this review is crap. even beginners can shoot tight groups and it is pretty much indestructible.
When I first started researching guns, I was pretty sure I would buy one of the best bullpups: AUG, Tavor, SAR21. In theory they should be incredibly accurate with a 20 inch barrel in such a small form factor, rear weighted to soak up recoil, and stable cheek weld. Then I started talking to others and firing an AUG on the range. The trigger is horrible, though it does have a good break. The groups are pretty much as you show. What you are getting with 77gr match is what one would expect from a Zion, which is my go to, shooting Vympel-Red Ops 223. I think we will be waiting a long time for that ideal bullpup that matches the theoretical advantages.
Nutn, Thanks for the review. Since I was a kid I always loved the "cool" factor of the gun. Figured one day I'd probably buy one. Well after this review it'll be the day when I have money to throw away... Thanks again! Great review as always.
so you buy a gun based on this one guy shooting this one rifle? I've had an aug for 10yrs and it's an amazing gun. If it wasn't then it wouldn't be for sale 50 yrs after it was created.
I really enjoy nutn's reviews but this one needs a revisit. I am Patreon member and I would gladly throw in some extra cash to see a retake on this with one of the melonite barrel versions. Sample size I have seen is also 1, but it was sub MOA (with bulk federal 55gr) and 100% reliable.
we can only own semis here. not that its a big deal for target shooting or whatever, but ohhh..men need to have fun sometimes :D gonna use my stg77 as long as i can.
@@geoffnelson64 Sadly, I did not and haven't had one in-hand. Have kept to the AR platform. Still expect to add more options, eventually a bullpup, though I've no idea when that may be. Have a good one.
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The original Counter Strike, that’s how I first learned about the Aug, when I was just a kid. That’s how I learned what an M4/AR-15 was, a Desert Eagle, and even a Glock. My family wasn’t anti gun by any means, but we didn’t have any guns in my house growing up. My first exposure to guns cam from video games, then going bird hunting with my step dad, then going out shooting regularly with family friends who had an incredibly extensive gun collection. Now, today, firearms are one of my passions. I’m a proud gun owner and staunch 2nd amendment supporter. And it all started by playing video games as a kid haha
Hey nutnfancy, your reviews never disappoint! Great fan from Malawi (country in central Africa) would love if you could do a review on Jp enterprise rifles.
Nutn, I'm a huge proponent of your SAWC philosophy, but I think one thing you are forgetting with the bullpup vs. standard format rifle (SFR for this com) debate is that while the bullpups weigh a bit more (2-2.5 lbs against your AR), in the firing position, a bullpup's mass is typically closer to your COG which should allow you to maintain that stable position for about as long or longer than a SFR. I do understand that carry weight is carry weight, and lighter is usually better, but still might want to take into consideration. Keep on Keepin on and make some more dang Top Expert patches!!!
Street price of the AUG (depending on configuration) is more like $1600. That's what I paid for my Aug A3 with five mags included. It's the Wolf steel case ammo you had problems with, right? I have run Wolf gold through mine with no issues. Seems like the feeding problems soured you on the shooting. Jerry Miculek has a video of a comparison between the AUG, Tavor and I think the FN 2000. Anyway he didn't seem to have any problems running the gun(having never shot it before) ran it faster than the other two and shot it with better accuracy.
You should check out the F90 made by Thales Australia. It is an Australian designed and made rifle for the Australian Defence Force. Badass looking rifle, can't wait to use it when I enlist. Also, it is being designated the EF88 by the ADF which just means Enhanced F88. Love the steyr series of rifles, shot the F88SA2 (Australian variant of the AUG A2), they shoot great. Keep up the videos mate, have a good one :D
I watched this review before I bought my A3M1. Glad I still got my AUG. I enjoy it more than my AR's, FAL, and AK's. Initially, it felt awkward to me. It takes some getting used to, but the design has it's strengths, and the more I handle it, the more familiar the controls feel. AR's now feel front heavy to me. The AUG has better balance IMO. It is a heavier rifle than most, but because of the center of balance, it feels lighter than it is. With a barrel a little over 16", it's a much more compact package than any AR with an equal length barrel. To me, that means easier operation in confined places. I got the long pic rail NATO version, put a 1.5x ACOG with ACSS reticle on it, and love it. I wouldn't recommend it for someone who intends to buy only one military style rifle, but if you already have AR's, and AK's, it could be a welcome change.
I've been looking out for a genuine Steyr with the A3 mags, curious about how they are with a compensator. I want to see what it's like without the blast from the stock muzzle device and stanag compatibility. It's ingeniously made, and pretty high quality. Maybe one that's been tuned and modded a bit would really change the whole thing around. -Doodle
@@nutnfancy I have a warcomp flash suppressor I'm planning on mounting. They do a respectable job of taming the fireball from what I've seen. With a 1/2 x 28 thread on the barrel, you have who knows how many options for muzzle devices. As for mags, I use Magpul and Lancer. Zero reliability issues with those. As for mods, it has a Corvus Defensio shell deflector, gear head works low angle charging handle, and a Steiner CQBL-1 to complement my NODS. With more aftermarket support, I think the AUG could skyrocket in popularity. And to think, I used to be dead set against bullpups.
Nutn, we know you've covered POU on a WROL rifle, but I think almost everyone would LOVE a dedicated video or series on just that. What you want in a WROL rifle or loadout. Please consider, thanks!
+minervius wow cool, we just had the old stuff, old steel helmets and the old Kaz, that with the hooks but on the other side i was just a Funktionsoldat. :)
Thank you Nutn for making sure I never waste my money on THE lust weapon of the 80s. First touched one as a young teen, became a lust gun for me. Friend's dad was a DEA agent that used it as his issue weapon. Guess bull pup was preferable for cargo ship raids?
I own a AUG, I like it, do I see the downsides to it, yes. I replaced my charging handle for a larger one, does the charging stay reward, nope, I think that sucks and I'm not even sure how that design flaw is even possible. I have the NATO version from the factory, mine is topped with an ACOG 3X. It's not a competition gun, but run across a field at 200/300 meters and it will be the last field you run across. Last time, I checked NATO doesn't use steel case, in fact no one really does other than recreational shooters and likely Russia for their AKs. It's like saying my turbo corvette doesn't run on 87 Octane gas, well ok. Also, I'm willing to bet than anyone buying a AUG already has like or 3-4 AR-15's, plus a few AKs, Saigas and SKS rifles. So, if your hang up is shooting steel case, I think you might be able to find something to cycle it. In the meantime, the AUG is still cool and it's 10x better looking than the Tavor. As for removing the barrel, yes, it's practical we use it, every time we field strip our weapon platform to inspect and clean the barrel. Not too many other rifles can say that and frankly I hate pushing a cleaning rod up the throat of an AR, plus ever try sleeping in a fart sack with a cold ass all metal rifle, no fun. I will take the diminished trigger and tune it a bit and still feel good about what I have. In the end, it's a range toy, unless Red Dawn happens, I will never be engaging anyone with it, as murder isn't sanctioned in my state.
+Mike S Excellent comments - well said. Is it perfect - no. Is it a fantastic firearm that is good enough for numerous armies around the world and will get the job done - yes. BTW, slightly slower mag changes on my AUG don't seem to bother me in any of my shooting, as I don't live in a video game or have to repel a zombie horde.
I'm a little surprised at the negativity; used the Aug in the Irish Defence Forces, really liked it, particularly the balance, accuracy and reliability. I found it to be a handy, well balanced tool. True having transitioned from the FN L1A1 there were some adjustments to be made but as Matthew Davie pointed out, training and practice deal with those issues.
I've got the Aug z a3 and I love it. But maybe just because I am from Austria. Unfortunately I have never shot steel amo, so I don't know if it would work, but I think mine is more accurate, I can't tell you the moa, I've never measured them. Thanks for the video, greetings from Glock country!
All of the critiques are valid. That should be expected from a gun so old that hasn't been continuously improved. Microtech made an improved AUG called the STG-556, and it fixed most of the problems. I handled one in the gun shop, and the thing was as slick as one of Microtech's knives, the bolt was ambie, too. Too bad they wanted $2700.
Yo Nutn, not sure if you are gonna go for one but do you think the changes in controls/features of the X-95 are a big enough improvement over the Tavor to be a contender for your liking?
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As a former Australian Infantry soldier, i was pulling 2 inch groups at 330 yards every time with a 1.5x optic. Just got to train with it to be good at it.
saying that, I still dont like the Aug
+Matthew Davie Honestly, an AK looks prettier than it.
I personally think that aug a1 is one of the coolest looking guns, i dont really like the railed versions.
Matthew Davie at singleton my first 300m was all in the body 50mm group is good
Matthew Davie And then you went on to sniper section.
You claim 1 MOA for Tavor based on 3 shot group, then are critical of the Aug shooting 2 MOA for an 8 shot group. Too much talk, not enough concise information.
+Blake R surely this gun will shoot 1 moa but it all depends on the person shooting and the ammunition used also every gun is an individual depending on how the barrel was broken in to the different grain of bullets fired one gun may shoot for example 62 grain bullets well where another gun will shot them like shit and need 55 grain bullets to shot good also one may have a shorter bullet and the other have a longer bullet and i mean like just the tip um sure you probly knew what i was saying but some people think a cartridge is a bullet but yeah surly a high quality gun like this will shoot 1 moa considering alot of 6 to 800 dollar ar 15s can shoot one moa
precisely. I'm thinking he's getting something from iwi to bash the competition
I pointed that out as well!! Sounds like a set up to me.
When I was new to guns I thought these guys were the shit. As I learned more (from other sources) these guys sound full of shit at times. And, yeah, I wasted a lot of money listening to them too.
why u butt hurt bro, did u buy the aug? lmao
someone showed me this. All due respect, as I do love the reviews, This review smells like crap. Ive done very well with this rifle and Ive owned it for 2 years and Ive never had any issues. Rapid fire accuracy, Long range accuracy the works and I think it still puts the Tavor to shame. Also Magpul now makes mags for it at 19.95 now and these mags are as expected, tough
my buddy shot a tavor and could not believe how bad the trigger was.i dont get the rage over the tavor
True statement I have mine for six years four years of no cleaning go shooting twice every other week and shots flawlessly no issues!
will B shot a tavor once renting it and I still think the streyr still a well balanced weapon than the tavor!
NUTN/DOODLE
IT'S A 1:9
YOU CAN'T BE SENDING 70+ GRAIN LOADS THROUGH IT AND EXPECTING GREAT RESULTS!
Yeah seriously. That's a very noob thing to do.
What about the 55grain groups he fired? They were about the same, sooo...?
@@stuartdodson6630 maybe he just sucks
@@jstray2321 yep, broken watch right twice a day sort-of thing. Possible but not likely.
What gravitates my attention to the AUG above all other bullpups is the utter simplicity of it. Simple, sleek design. Simple operation. Simple, no tools required takedown.
Umm, ok. Well I used the AUG for 5 years in Recon. This was leading up to the Persian Gulf War.
I had the 'S' version so I interchanged between the standard 1.5 detachable scope and an ANPVS4A (Starlight scope).
Most of my deployments were in Jungle and Rain Forest conditions where the AUG reigns supreme. You can clean 80% of an AUG while you're having a shower!!!
As for ammunition, we originally used the SS109 with steel penetrating tip and Australia opted for a 1:7 twist barrel. This was an awesome match as it penetrated brickwork as deep as a 7.62mm fired from a long barrel FAL (SLR).
If I was an operator right now, I'd be happy to carry an AUG because the AUG isn't a rifle for the range, it's for war zones.
The AUG's weight never troubled me....but the Mag60 did.
In CoD?
Im just a stupid civi in america and have built several cheap and fancy AR15s, own tavor x95s etc and I can agree with you on the AUG. My AUG has always been my go to rifle and my favorite out of most platforms. One of the best purchases and reliable purchases I have ever made and it's my baby.
The Nutnfancy reviewer has downplayed the importance of that easily removable barrel. It seems like that having it that easy to remove, makes cleaning and inspecting the inside of it carefully much easier than an on an AR platform.
@@troy3456789 the nut fancy reviewer also said he knew how to load load rimfire mags properly while proceeding to show himself improperly loading the mags to a cmr30 rim locking the mags with 22 mag.
You're shooting 77 grain in a 1/9 twist barrel. that's why that group is bad
+Scott Saylors He's taking that IWI money!
+H&Ks until the end of days! huh?
IWI (tavor, the AUG's competition) is paying him to make their tavor look better than the AUG. I was joking... probably...
+H&Ks until the end of days! lol the tavor trigger is way worse than the aug, the tavor feels like shouldering a 2x6 piece of wood, the grip is much better on the aug. too many people jump on the Israeli train cause they market their stuff so well. I'll take a aug over a tavor all day every day
+H&Ks until the end of days! he says it won't shoot wolf but it'll shoot wolf gold all day and that's only slightly more expensive.
my aug, which I bought for 1500, runs wolf just fine.
Nothing wrong with an Aug steyr and yes you can get 1 MOA with it
Thanks for a great review I was looking at buying a AUG watched many other reviews and yours was the deciding review. I just pulled the trigger and bought one, I always check your reviews and if you trash the gun I'll buy it and it's turned out that I end up loving it. Keep up the good work I can always trust your reviews to be total horse shit thanks.
Lmao 👌
I just wish I could get a 20” 1-7 twist barrel for the AUG. 😂
@@justsomeguy922r3 I agree.
Nutn, I’d give this another look, man. I think something was wrong with your test gun. Your comments on the AUG’s reliability scared me off for a while, but now that I finally have an A3 M1 long rail, I’m very pleased. Eats absolutely everything.
Fantastic, proven gun. Owned 4 of them. Trigger no where near as bad as most say... Those people were used to "match" triggers.
+sorryociffer Did yours run steel cased ammo ok?
+nutnfancy you do realize not everyone is a gun tester so most of of will never even think about buying steel
never shot steel case stuff. All of mine were pre-ban A1 series guns. Triggers were heavier but had minimal takeup, we're not mushy or plasticee. Mag changes with proper technique and practice were fairly quick.
The AUG just looks so cool! It just looks like a freakin lazergun
Lol the aug is definitely accurate. the firearm is extremely reliable and the muzzle device is not red loctited. this review is crap
however opinions are like assholes everybody has one
also that's the aug a3 not the m1
+Scott Saylors magpul also told me they are releasing aug mags this year
Loctited?
+Zoltan Csikos it's a brand of thread locker
A buddy of mine has one of these and it's a lot of fun to shoot. In my experience It doesn't feel unnatural transitioning from an AR platform and it's incredibly EASY to shoot well. Great gun
Thanks for the review Nutn!
For me it's been a while handling an A1 in military service and one really has to get used to the ergonomics: charging handle, magazine reload, the close workspace. But changing the mags is really easy, especially if you intend to save the mag: just rotate the gun so you can more easily grab the mag with the left hand and while pressing the mag release with the thumb you just pull the mag out. Nothing more too it. The "fast reload" would be with the left already gripping the new mag and pushing the button with the mag and dropping the empty one (kinda like with an AK).
The charging handle is indeed used with the hand on the bottom (if you know what I mean) BUT it's still too close to operate it easily with a magnified optic mounted (-> Manticore Raptor Charging Handle^^).
And I've never seen any problem with the charging handle not locking as on your gun (it was rented?). Maybe it's a newer (A2, A3) issue; hard to believe but who knows...
Accuracy wise we didn't really have any "real world" issues, but I have to admit we didn't bench-rest-shoot it for max accuracy.
And you would flip the FG forward when shooting prone. Pretty sweet in my opinion and works great!
Another real world usage: this gun is pretty lenient versus anything; being it hard abuse, getting dropped from great heights or dirt, snow and the likes; it'll just work. A1s are still in use for that matter. 'nuff said!!
What I always liked about this gun (especially compared to other heavy guns) is that although it's heavy, the weight is in the back near your shoulders, so you won't get fatigued; like at all. You can train and shoot with this gun all day without it getting "too heavy to set the sights on target".
Also the very easy takedown (we learn and test in the field to take the gun apart including the bolt action and trigger group with eyes closed / in complete darkness!) and fast cleaning is a big plus :-)
I do hate the inability to (easily) mount any other type of compensator/flash hider.
Another issue: there is no brass deflector! The man next to you is gonna hate your guts after some rounds^^
Non-floating barrel: it's true, you mustn't rest the barrel on the bench/rucksack/whatever you are shooting from! The group will widen waayyyy up! - that's what the forward grip is for ;-)
And the trigger really is bad; I don't know about the semi-automatic version and maybe my A1 trigger was just over-used, but although or because the trigger is so... mushy and hard... it's really easy to activate full auto mode! (although one is supposed to shoot one accurate bullet at 300m :D
And about ammunition: if it can shoot plastic, underloaded training ammunition (where no actual round is shot), it should easily shoot metal ammo; never tried it though!!
Is it the best gun in the world: of course not, but mainly for different reasons than in this video. It has good and bad points (like most guns).
And no, I'm no Die Hard (pun intended!) Steyr/AUG fan, it's just my personal opinion.
Ok, I guess that's all for now.
There is a bag you can mount over the case ejection. Well, wouldn't use it in combat, but it saves you some time cleaning up the range. www.blaschke.com/Prospekte/HF.html
And the Trigger really sucks, at least for people like me, with fine motor skills like King Kong. :D
I have owned my Steyr AUG A3 M1 for a couple of years now and have put a little over 2000 rounds of various ammunition through mine with no malfunctions (Some of that outdoors in different temps). Pros: Very Accurate, Very Reliable, Quick Detach Barrel, Compact Bull-pup Design, 42 round magazines, and is Very easy to disassemble and clean. Cons: Heavy funky trigger pull, charging handle placement, and it is heavy compared to other semi-auto rifles in it's class. Also the high price of it, which I should mention the IWI Tavor has now come close to over the years. Just my opinion about the mag release that it is not difficult after training with it when using your thumb while gripping the mag. I haven't ran Wolf ammo through mine but have read that you must adjust the gas setting (which takes 2 seconds) and it will work just fine. Guess that didn't work for nutn so that may not be true. Wolf ammunition just sucks and the AUG is not the only rifle out there that has issues with it.
ScreamingSkullSaloon Got tp rat worx and get the replacement sear. Takes away the mushiness and over travel out of the trigger. $100.
+Marc Brown (Hollow) Thanks I will look into that for sure.
No problem bro. If you're ever looking for parts or advice check the bullpupforum.com
This is literally my favorite weapon. I'm not sure why. It always felt right in my hand, it was accurate, and it's sexy as hell.
Its also one of my favorite assault rifle. The word your are looking for is confidence:). The weapon gives you confidence, the only other weapon i had this feeling was the mp5.
as a left hander who served in the aussie army, I had no issues with the safty, also the foregrip can be raised and you can shoot it up, and I used to love having it up in the prone unsupported position.
What kind of brass deflector did you have? The one that needs drilling a hole?
The quick change barrel makes removing a stuck casing easier than any other rifle I've fired. Takes very little time. Try it with another gun and you'll be struggling.
In addition, nearly the worst stoppage you can get in an AR, the bolt overide, is impossible to have in an AUG.
If you want to improve the trigger, get the SA only trigger rather than the SA/A trigger from the military AUG.
In the Australian Defence Force the barrels are removed as part of weapon clearing drills
australiansurvival same in austria, we have to do that every time before using it
I used these in the Australian Army for 10 years. Biggest problem with them was the gas plug had a tendency to blow off when fired, even with blank ammo. Wether this was a design fault or a manufacturing deficiency I don't know but this would be a problem in a combat situation. Apart from that they were quite accurate and did the job, I would still prefer a modernised AR or AK platform though.
+ColdWarWarriors could be a manufacturing issue, never heared of this Problem with the Steyr ones here in Austria.
I have never seen this on the F88.
The AUSsteyr with the cream and green camo which was used by the Australian army a couple of years ago had issues where the gas plug would fall out a lot. In that version they increased the gas system circumference a bit which caused the problem. They rectified this in later versions.
ColdWarWarriors and 26 - Thanks for this info. Good to know. We have one at the shop I work at, and I know very little about it. Good to hear from guys who have actually used it.
Here in New Zealand, the army is replacing the Steyr with the AR type MARS-L rifle.
Apparently the Steyr had problems with range and power.
+nutnfancy Did you use the actual adverse setting with the Wolf ammo, as you mentioned around 34:XX? Or did you mistakenly set it to "GR"? There are three settings: 1. Normal (aligned with small circle); 2. Adverse (aligned with large circle); and 3. "GR" for "Granate" (grenade), which is intended to disable cycling of the rifle. If you had it on position 3, that's would explain the Wolf issues. After quickly having another look, you mentioned something like 20 rounds, so that would preclude usage of GR setting. Could you confirm? If you did correctly use position 2, you need to break in it more before using that crap ammo. AUG owners do not have your Wolf issues, honestly. Please contact PJs and AUG "veterans" and experts, and follow their directions. You'll find that your failures to cycle will go away. As for the accuracy issues, AUG users perform much better; but that's not a dig. We're simply used to the platform. IMO, it's at the top-def miles ahead of any M4 platform.
I'm glad somebody else knowledgeable jumped in. This review is pretty much trash. PJ is a good guy.
+goatmurray I had to! I agree with your conclusion.
I agree as well. I think he had his gas setting wrong, or was trying to run wolf without breaking the gun in. I have 2 AUGs and its probably the only rifle I have never had malfunctions in EXCEPT when I tried shooting it on the wrong setting. Also my AUG is very accurate. I have shot MOA 5 round groups with several ammo types. I feel like he didn't read the manual, shot it once or twice and ran with his video. Not impressed. The tavor is in my opinion an inferior rifle for several reasons, mainly accuracy (much worse), and heat dissipation problems.
+troy sauge Agree with you 100%.
+troy sauge
Yeah, he does that a lot.
(RTFM!)
Solid review as always. I like the rifle but all bullpups are a compromise
+Wrongthink the trigger bar.
+Mrgunsngear Channel Thank you, great Channel you have, thanks for dropping by dude! -nutnfancy
You can build a superr sweet ar for the price of one of these
My ps90 works perfect 5000 rounds not one issue
I was thinking about buying a aug with the only reason being it was a dream gun growing up. I started searching armslist and came across a 20in barreled MSAR STG-556 for a third of the price. I bought it and instantly changed to a ratworx hybrid bolt, neu trigger, and put a 20/20 sear. This completely changed my opinion of the rifle turning it into a smooth light trigger pull. I placed a primary arms 5x acss making it accurate with the 20in barrel. Its cool having a steyr aug style rifle, being able to put money into the right parts and place a nice optic on it for $1,500. I really enjoy this rifle but choose my keltec rdb defender for my go to bull pup.
For what its worth, i 100% agree with you regarding bullpup triggers: learn to live or don't. I sold my original Tavor SAR due to the trigger and i wasn't about to put another $300 in it just to get a trigger a little worse than most of those in my ARs. Now the X95? totally different story and keeping it due to the good enough trigger. As to reliability, I've heard others having Wolf troubles out of the AUG but my AUG A3 SA eats it fine. I know though that some others do not. My TAvor SAR used to choke on it too, another reason I sold it. My X95 eats it up though, so....good stuff, cheers.
I've been really happy with mine, I bought it when they were first released in the current configuration a few years ago. I never buy or shoot any steel case ammo in any of my handguns or rifles. I learned my lesson years ago shooting steel case Norinco ammo in my HK91. The coating on the ammo formed a tar-like muck that seized my bolt carrier in the receiver. I had to pour all kinds of solvents down the receiver and hammer it free with a cleaning rod and hammer.
I don't shoot the kind of quantity where the steel ammo savings is worth it, maybe 1,000-1,500 rounds in rifles and the same in pistols per year, not counting 3,000 rounds or so of 22! If I do my part my Aug shoots a 1.3" group with PMC bronze, I was able to do that on two outings. I'm definitely not a great shooter, I've also never had any failures to fire, feed, or eject. Compared to my Sig 556 the Aug is a match rifle, but I can do a little better than the Aug with my AR's and SCAR's.
55gr pmc bronze? What barrel length & twist rate?
You are using an A3 SA, you aren't using the A3 M1
Yay, no more dumb van videos.... Next up, living in a dumpster and LOVING it.
hahahaha I'm cryin dude
The only people who'd watch them videos probably don't even have a toilet let alone internet
+Dave R Honestly, I was really digging the van videos. I am a poor college student and a backpacker. The more money I can save when traveling the more money I can put towards gear. It is also good to know that stuff. I know a lot of people who would have no clue how to make due in a situation like that. Keep rocking nutn. some people forget that the nutnfancy project is ongoing with the content that stokes you and what you want to show, not focused entirely around guns.
Trust me, If this channel was not predominantly about guns, the views would drop. The van series appealed to very little of his crowd. Majority the the views came from people clicking just to give it a view since they're fans. I did the same.
+Dave R Ive been watching nutn for like 5 years and while i do very much respect his opinion when im looking at guns or other products but there is no doubt the man is cringy alot of the time. AND I LOVE IT. The van video had me and a couple no-gunz buddies roll with laughter we watched while drinking at it was so cringy funny. So ive been loving his van videos.
Used one in the Australian Army for over a decade. Fantastic personal weapon, would choose over any AR any day. Not possible to on personally here due to laws, but as an assault rifle cannot heap enough praise. There are slight differences with the AUSsteyr but basically the same system. Brilliant..!
Is it true that New Zealand is replacing their AUG variant with a AR-15?
+Coco we just prefer skilled trained soldiers over mass numbers.😀
100% volunteer, professional force, no economic conscription over here mate.
+Coco in the age of Bio, Chemical and Nuclear weapons mate there is no deterrent in Army size. The only benefit is industrial GP generated.
Only difference with a small Military is with no wars we don't go broke😀
+Jesse Simmons we have gone with an update Steyr. Keep with quality. Once your trained it is a fantastic weapons platform. Not for commercial purchase, you cannot buy semi auto here as a citizen as advised due to legislation.
Lubricate the trigger with graphite powder Nutn' , that's what we used in the Australian Army to smooth it.
+Dan Ratte Good advice
nutnfancy No problems Nutn'.
+Dan Ratte Dan when I was in in the 80s we were having issues with the plastics cracking on the Austeyr. They were terrible. We know it was not Steyers fault it was the Australian manufacturer. How are they now?
Grahame Nicholson I got out in 2004 , I had seen no issues with polymers cracking , when I joined in 2001 they made it abundantly clear to keep gun oil away from the polymer receiver components.
I was not aware that ADI had changed the composition of the polymer receiver since 1988.
Dan Ratte The ones we were given to try out were excellent. They were Austrian. You couldn't kill them if you tried. When we got the ones made in Aus the plastics in the first batch were terrible. Particularly you had to be careful when getting in and out of APCs. They would get damaged if you hit the armour hard.
This guy is paid off by IWI. I have experience with both the tavor x95 and the AUG, the AUG out does the X95 by every measure imagine able. I would even take an old A1 model above a new X95.
When I was in the army, I really liked the Styer, but at the time we had the F88 with the fixed scope which I hated, later we got a railed version and got a better acog style scope but the rail we had wasn't the same on your version as for the removable barrel it helps with cleaning and jams and we hardly used it as a suppressive weapon we had the Minimi or saw and the good old mag 58, but the Styer was great just needs a rubber but stock
My buddies and I have run 10's of thousands of rounds of steel 5.56. For Blue Collar guys who like to train, steel is a good thing.
"lot of money, for a plastic gun"
BACK IN MY DAY THEY MADE GUNS OUT OF WOOD
I really appreciate this no nonsense review. I've been waiting for the Nutnfancy Steyr AUG review for awhile. I still have it on my list of "dream" guns on the count of second kind of cool. But at its current price point I can't justify its purchase for that reason alone. Maybe at $1400-$1600 I'd probably get one. Thanks for this review!
+Cody Vega if you could find one with the NATO stock on the used market for cheap, it's worth it. If you're enamored with the styling you'll find a lot more enjoyment in it than he did. He tends to be a little ascetic in evaluating style, so you'll probably still love yours. They had an LE white one I once fawned over...I wonder how much they are now -TD
+nutnfancy thanks, I'll prolly keep my eyes open for a used one.
another well thought out review... i agree with everything Nutn. thanks bro
+Trex Dave THANK YOU Trex
This is a very dishonest review. It's completely inconcentric with all of my research and experience owning an AUG. This review completely changed my mind about nutnfancy. The AUG is definately worth another look and I hope anybody reading this will completely disregard this video.
This video is shit.. first of all this is an older A3 not a A3 M1. I've owned 4 AUGs and 3 Tavors (including the X95) my AUGs would out perform my Tavors . Ive never owned a AUG that wouldn't shoot 1-1.5" . my two Tavors were 2-3moa guns except the x95 your lucky to get 4-5moa.... Again this is shit review ...
His Yugo SKS video review kinda gave me the hint, then this one sealed it. My aug is ages old (it's a year older than me ) and I've done 2 MOA with it before. I'm a pretty garbage shot too. Extra on the garbage.
Dude this is nutns milage, he ALWAYS says that. There is NOTHING dishonest about it, he posts his data, films his experience. Your all just a bunch of butt hurt fan boys who cant stand the idea that your rifle doesn't function to spec WITH EVERYONE. You got a fucked definition of dishonest.
+tbone martinez says the nut'n nut hugger.... Seriously ....
FULLASSAULT aren't you a funny fuck
This was my first rifle, bought it back in December of 2021. I randomly saw it at my local store one day, & bought it on the spot; I was like "whatever, I think I'm a bullpup dude anyways."
This should be a 6 min review not 30 min
LOL. Welcome to the Nutnfancy channel. 30 min is short for him!
you must be new to TNP
Nut'n your personal biases are dripping through your "unbiased assessment" with this one.
No not Die Hard. La Femme Nikita 1990 with Anne Parillaud was my inspiration for buying an A1. She looked so hot in that film.
Many things are true you said about this rifle. What really fascinated me however was that you managed to get more malfunctions with it in this one video than i did in 6 years using this rifle regularly during my army time and now with the police. Also, your groupings were strange... even with the old standard 1.5x optical aiming aid (i am not calling it a scope in purpose) i got better groupings at a 100m distance lying down. Also, personally i dont use the barrel handle for precision shooting... for me this does not work properly. I simply hold it just in front of the trigger guard, which works like a charm in many situations. House clearing and close quarter situations and middle distances when you have to move from cover to cover are perfect for the barrel handle (also, you can stab with it pretty effectively when using the barrel handle), but wehen shooting at distances in non - tactical situations it screws up my aim.
Interesting. I just started looking into possibly getting an AUG and your video just came out not too long ago. Once again you're right in time Nutn.
Wondering if you got a dud. Finally bought one and put 810 rounds through it this weekend, mostly steel cased Wolf and Tula. Ate everything. No malfunctions. The trigger is lousy, though. Otherwise... pretty happy with mine. Accuracy isn’t half bad. Balance is excellent. Points quickly and naturally.
Nutn, I just wanted to say keep it up. I like when you get off topic. I like the humor. and I like the in depth and long videos. They make me smile...They also make me even more poor than I am now
I did have some big surprises in testing this Steyr AUG A3 M1 and not in a good way. It used to be a lust gun and I'd come close to buying one. Glad I didn't. Watch how the AUG stacks up against the other superb tactical bullpups and carbines like the IWI Tavor, Sig MCX, LWRC,and my own AR builds (shown). Accuracy, reliability with steel cased ammo, ergonomic misses, and weight are seriously concerning to me. Reliability with brass ammo was 100% as indicated. Conclusions drawn. -nutnfancy
Well, it’s your opinion, thanks for sharing. As an Infantry vet of the 101st Airborne, I’d carry the AUG over the M4 any day. Not sure what was going on with yours but mine has been stellar.
Good review. Always appreciate your honesty. Love my 5.56 MCX (with dropped in Geissele trigger) that I purchased based partially on your review.
i have been waiting a long time for this!
Oh shit nutn finally reviewed an aug. I'm breaking out the popcorn for this one!
So much wrong with this...
How exactly has the effectiveness of the tulip muzzle brake changed? Have physics changed? I think not.
And spinning it off is quite simple.
As for the charging handle bringing your hand into contact with the rail/optic, use the underhand method. Do that and you won’t grate your fingers. It’s just a matter of training.
The trigger does not suck. Modern shooters have been spoiled by these high dollar, light pull, competition triggers. The AUG was made for combat and that 9-11 lb pull is ideal for that. If you can’t handle a 9-11 lb pull then you need to work your upper body strength! Lol! So you’re wrong there. It’s a perfectly fine trigger. The trigger on the Tavor is way trashier than the AUG.
The mag release is simple to learn. There are techniques that can make mag changes a breeze.
As for accuracy, I pull 1.5-2” groups all day long with ball and that is perfectly acceptable for this weapon because it’s designed for COMBAT! It’s not intended for accuracy competitions. Same for the barrel...just because it’s not free-floated it isn’t the end of the world.
My AUG, and others I’ve fired, will eat Wolf all day long. You must have a dud or a poorly maintained weapon.
I’d advise anybody watching this review to take it with a very large grain of salt. This has more personal opinions than facts. Look elsewhere.
Thanks Nutn! your work is appreciated!
I get 3 inch groups at 600 m son. Brush up on your fundamentals and we would love to see another video on the true accuracy of the Steyr AUG
ANARCHY LUiS I’d pay for your ammo to see you post a video of you shooting a 3 inch group at 300m with a bolt gun, much less an AUG.
I got the very same accuracy results years ago. I'm inclined to believe that the accuracy issue is so prevalent, it has to be either a poor batch of barrels or a poorly designed barrel. I agree about the Wolf ammo. I get way better accuracy with Wolf over 4 different ARs. I agree that if the gun won't shoot Wolf ammo, then the gun is not versatile enough for an all around gun. Everyone says Wolf is underpowered but no one can ever qualify that statement. I wanted to get an AUG, but the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. I have my sights on the new version of the Tavor, the X-95.
Sinister1 A 5 moa gun for the same price! lmao
Don't know. My Austrian produced barrel shoots consistant 5-7cm 10 shot groups at 100m. 3 shot groups under 5cm.
Been waiting for this since I subbed! Thanks for doing this!!!
Finally a real review.
I was dreading more van videos coming.
Actually, that's the A3. The M1 receiver has the traditional style beak with integrated front sling swivel, and has a conformal rail, or optic depending on the configuration purchased. Otherwise really no difference. Just a technicality.
I won't provide fan boy defense of your findings as they are specific to your experience and I respect them.
What I did notice though was your muscle memory from AR platforms might have been conflicting with your operation of the AUG, along with not being familiar with the correct drills for it. Ultimately I think this may've sullied your experience some, and I see it happen all the time when I let people handle an AUG without familiarization. The drills, muscle actions, and ergos are sufficiently different, yet small enough that they take some getting used too. And if you don't learn them from the outset, then that learning hill becomes steeper.
I had and still have issues with AR's because of the reverse issue - Muscle memory developed from training with nothing but the AUG/F88 in Australian service (which BTW is one of the bigger users of the AUG - be it a locally made version (F88)).
Firstly on the quick change barrel, it's use (in service with the ADF at least where the only barrel was 20-inch) is for showing the weapon is clear, and for stoppage drills. Not really for caliber change (what caliber change?) or swapping out the barrel when it gets super hot.
Secondly on the charging handle....it's always taught as an underhanded grip, hooking with your left hand little finger and ring finger near the palm. Pull back and then palm up into the locking slot, opening your fingers as you go. Then to release hook the handle back with a relaxed little finger, and let it fly forward off your finger like releasing an arrow, or flick it down with your thumb. The difference in this regard with the A2/A3/ A3M1 have an extra degree of freedom to allow the handle to fold in when it's dropped. The non folding style on the STG-77/A1/F88 is more positive in operation, and less likely to f*ck your knuckles.
Thirdly......there's no need to pogo, or run a rod down the barrel to clear a stuck case - this is what the QC barrel is for. If that's what the owner has been doing I wouldn't be surprised if the muzzle crown was f*cked - which might explain some of the accuracy issues you had. (I won't get into twist)
IA - (Initial Action Drill)
Weapon Fires, Weapon Stops - carry out the IA.
(keeping the weapon in your shoulder, dropping the butt into your bicep, or onto you hip - depending on fatigue and body geometry)
TILT - the ejection port down,
COCK - Left hand off the foregrip or trigger guard, grab the charging handle and rip it back, looking for the ejected case/round
LOCK - (these next two are simultaneous -) - roll the weapon counter clockwise (if a right handed person) so the ejection port begins to face you and with the left hand on the charging handle push it up into the locking detent.
LOOK - Check for the stoppage - empty mag, etc
If the round is stuck in the chamber and won't shake out, then the charging handle is already locked back so you release and remove the barrel, and can then tap the stuck case out or pry it out. Never in this process should your primary hand need to come off the grip unless you need to pry out a stuck case, and maybe change the gas setting on a particularly fouled gas plug.
Otherwise a fair review - these are some tips that just might have changed your experience a little. Keep up the vids! Love em all from a closet double owl....
I never hear about these any more, probably because they have a non existent marketing strategy.
+MoreAmerican They are just not that great either, just cool factor, everything else is subpar
+Captain America if they had a third of IWI's marketing sales would go up
It might be the only rifle I've ever fired but I wouldn't change it for anything else! Absolute beauty to shoot.
I shot a Steyr like that back in the 80's it was awesome. I have a Tavor with a Dead Air Suppressor on I love it.
I have the MSAR clone, and it's bloody fantastic. Trigger is light, probably 3 pounds; almost feels like a decent 1911 trigger frankly. Movement might be 1/4 inch and clean break. Takes AR mags. Amazing ergos, very comfortable grip, well designed, quick barrel swap if needed later, rails for all sorts of accessories and optics. Mag change is entirely simple. Right thumb while you grip the mag. VERY ergonomic IMO. Any negatives are entirely nitpicking. Amazing bullpup. Yeah, very very little need for a bullpup at 3x the cost of a 16" AR15 or AK, but in the bullpup world it's a great setup with a great track record (the Steyr of course). MSAR did a GREAT job cloning it. Wish they were in business still.
Either the AUG A3 quality is lacking compared to the A1 series or you just had some back luck with this one.
I have owned and shot an 20" Steyr AUG-A1 SA since 1992 (with the original 1.5 ring reticle scope) and it would be my first choice for any serious use. I have won many IPSC-style matches with it and I can shoot from just about any position you might think of. I have replaced a couple of firing pins and two extractors and I have a few magazines that are showing their age by now, having been dropped hundreds of times.
The AUG generally is a 1-1.5 MOA gun easily with good ammo. Years back, I had problems with some steel cased Russian made 62-grain ammo with gave a lot of misfires, but I have been using steel cased ammo in the AUG since 2000 and have had very little prolems with it.
I have handled many newer AUGS and I have always found them somehow to operate less smoothly than my own example. (Mine still has the squared bolt handle with the little bolt-forward assist button that no one ever uses).
And yes, I very often shoot with the folding grip folded up, especially when shooting sitting or kneeling and never had a problem with burning my hand on a hot barrel.
Maarten van Maanen Naw man he's tripping. I've had an A1 and I have an A3 both shoot the same accuracy. I will say I have a better trigger pack in mine now. Even with factory pack average 2 moa.
-Fot the Mag release: Grip the Magazine and use your thump to push up on the button, or slam a new magazine against the button (not the gentlemans way...)
-The charging handle: sadly they didn't update it when putting on Rails, because it worked fine for me with the A1 with the integrated sight. no surface there to get you injured.
-The quick change barrel: makes cleaning and inspecting easy.
-origninal integrated sight: while not much magnification pretty durable withstands even hard misuse (we trained denfense against someone attacking with a stick (empty rifle) and even the hard blows with full force didnt do anything but scratch the paint a bit.
-Accuracy: i am a bit dissapointed, the ones i got to use produced these groups at far bigger distance, but i have to say the ones i got to handle 17 years ago were old heavyly used original A1's ones made in austria, never handled the new ones.
Nice one been waiting for this one
I have always thought of the styre aug like the glock, a little more expensive but reliable and accurate right out of the box. Back in the 1980's people bought at the store and immediately shot groups better than most bolt rifles. While a m16a2 of the day was doing good if it got less than 2 moa after sighting in. But that was back then and it still cost an arm or a leg in the us.
The flash hider is not red loctited on. It has a left hand thread with a jam nut. It is difficult to remove but there is NO loctite! Also the rifle in this video is an A3 model not the A3 M1 version. The rail is the main difference. I've had both. My rifle shoots right at 1moa. My AUG A3 M1 NATO has a Manticore folding charging handle. It addresses the charging handle. There are many fixes for the standard trigger. Neither of my AUG rifles has ever had a malfunction of any type. Do not shoot steel case ammo in the AUG. Everything else shoots great in it. During the Steyr Black Friday Sale, I bought a standard AUG stock for $195 with the trigger pack. Worth every penny! The AUG is a great rifle, period!
Alright now a FN FAL review. :)
+FreewolfA5 the DSA SA 58 PARA FAL AKA the American FAL.
Nutn, will you be doing a review of the X95? As always, great video and THANK YOU for all the time and effort you put into them.
+Christopher Donald Yes I will
+nutnfancy Hey nutn, big fan of your channel, great reviews and very positive messages to viewers!
Any videos/thoughts about standard (button?) barrels vs cold hammer forged in terms of accuracy/functionality?
Thinking about picking up a BCM soon and i'm trying to decide which to go with (my 1st rifle although have 3 yrs of experience with colt m4).
Do you think a 16" mid length with a m16 bcg would function well with a cheaper lower such as PSA or Anderson?
I would like to keep the rifle all BCM and the lower seems very nice but saving $200 on a lower would help with other upgrades etc.
Thanks!
Heck, flintlocks had a purpose at the time they where made.. But now they are obsolete unless you want to own them as a hobby..
+Henk Van de Goor They still have plenty of purpose :)
+mark3smle Yup, about as much as a horse and carriage do compared to a modern car :-)
+Henk Van de Goor Most all guns are hobbies to the majority of people.......
+Henk Van de Goor I agree. Things get improved that leave past used machines obsolete, and used for just the enjoyment of the hobby and not so much modern function.
+Henk Van de Goor i can hunt in places others with normal rifles cant, plus i get an earlier, longer season.
in the field first...and on prime land!
Agree with a lot of what you said about this weapon.
I spent time with it in Australian military and trigger was very unpredictable. It didn't move at all and then "fell through" to single shot. Plastic feel big time. Not pleasant.
Swapping a mag fast wasn't easy either. It didn't wanna fall out under own weight even fully loaded with ammo. Reliability of the mag comes from that consistent curve in it which is how it really should be.
I dare say that your problems with underpowered WOLF ammo stem from rather heavy return springs that are used in AUG. It takes a surprising amount of strength to pull back the charging handle on it. AR and AK platforms have a lot less tension, and I'd say this is why WOLF ammo can't really handle that return spring on AUG but has no problem cycling AKs and ARs.
Weight. Comparing weight of AUG to AR was always going to go to AR since AR is made of cast and then machined aluminium. AUG is made of thick plastic stock and forged and machined steel receiver which isn't thin-walled either. But it is one tough weapon when it comes to physical abuse. Not hating on AR here but its receiver wouldn't be as strong. However the weight is indeed something that needed to be addressed and was, at least on Australian modernization of AUG, the F90. In fact it lost about 3 or more pounds.
The fact that you are completely right about swappable barrel, and I personally do not believe in swappable barrels and calibers on assault rifles just like you, is confirmed by the fact that new version of Australian AUG, the above-mentioned F90 derivative, will not have the removable barrel.
Small piece of feedback on when you were clearing the jams. Removing the barrel is advised in case of double feeds or when round is stuck. At least that is how I was taught back in my uniformed days.
Been waiting so long for a comparison of this vs the Tavor!
Awesome review as always, all very good points. One point of interest, your observation with cutting your hand while manipulating the charging handle is why in the Marine Corps overhand manipulation is a big no no on anything with a side mounted charging handle. Also the heel of your hand tends to have more meat on it, and is better able to deal with cuts than your thumb and pointer knuckle/finger. Keep on rockin, love your channel.
He gave his personal preferences as if they were facts regarding the weapons design, and he got some of the information wrong. I wouldn't trust him on this, and after this video; I don't think I ever will.
Another very memorable movie appearance of the Steyr, for me, is in the movie Nikita by Luc Besson. Just awesome!
the aug is awesome, the x95 is awesome, bullpups in general are awesome. I want to buy them all!
Thanks as always for the honest review. I get a lot of people butt hurt when I describe how I am disappointed that my SOCOM 16 is at best is a 2.5 MOA rifle. I have sunk a bunch more money (upgraded stock, Sadlak spring guide rod and piston upgrades, trigger job, etc) into a rifle that already starts at $1,800+ and it still is a 2.5 MOA rifle. Some one always chimes in about how their SOCOM shoots sub MOA because one time they had 2 bullet holes end up that close but it's just reality that while it's fun to shoot and reliable it's not nearly as accurate as many other 16" barreled .308s like the Vepr.
I want a AUG I have about everything else so why not.
Josh Slone go for it, I use it in the army and it's great. this review is crap. even beginners can shoot tight groups and it is pretty much indestructible.
@@f1chtl Yeah this review was bullshit.
When I first started researching guns, I was pretty sure I would buy one of the best bullpups: AUG, Tavor, SAR21. In theory they should be incredibly accurate with a 20 inch barrel in such a small form factor, rear weighted to soak up recoil, and stable cheek weld. Then I started talking to others and firing an AUG on the range. The trigger is horrible, though it does have a good break. The groups are pretty much as you show. What you are getting with 77gr match is what one would expect from a Zion, which is my go to, shooting Vympel-Red Ops 223. I think we will be waiting a long time for that ideal bullpup that matches the theoretical advantages.
Nutn, Thanks for the review. Since I was a kid I always loved the "cool" factor of the gun. Figured one day I'd probably buy one. Well after this review it'll be the day when I have money to throw away... Thanks again! Great review as always.
so you buy a gun based on this one guy shooting this one rifle? I've had an aug for 10yrs and it's an amazing gun. If it wasn't then it wouldn't be for sale 50 yrs after it was created.
I really enjoy nutn's reviews but this one needs a revisit. I am Patreon member and I would gladly throw in some extra cash to see a retake on this with one of the melonite barrel versions. Sample size I have seen is also 1, but it was sub MOA (with bulk federal 55gr) and 100% reliable.
I will be acquiring one of these made by Steyr Arms... yummy!
Player Review sweet! can you get a fully automatic one where you live?
Lukas Longus I can only get fully-autos that are pre 1986 per US law. Very expensive though, but yeah, I can own full auto's in my state.
we can only own semis here. not that its a big deal for target shooting or whatever, but ohhh..men need to have fun sometimes :D
gonna use my stg77 as long as i can.
5 year checkup... did ya get it?
@@geoffnelson64 Sadly, I did not and haven't had one in-hand. Have kept to the AR platform. Still expect to add more options, eventually a bullpup, though I've no idea when that may be.
Have a good one.
great "shot" angle with the brass hitting the camera! Thanks for the vid, and the idea for my channel. ..
Anytime I hit an ad in the middle of a video, I immediately stop watching the video.
Heaven forbid content creators not work for free...
SECFans Hit me with an ad in the beginning. Don't hit me with one in the middle of a sentence.
I agree there are good ways and bad ways to do it. But midroll ads generally garner a higher price and do a better job to help support a channel. Mid sentence, however, is annoying. Podcasts seem to do a lot better job with midroll ads than video content creators. Feels much more organic.
The original Counter Strike, that’s how I first learned about the Aug, when I was just a kid. That’s how I learned what an M4/AR-15 was, a Desert Eagle, and even a Glock. My family wasn’t anti gun by any means, but we didn’t have any guns in my house growing up. My first exposure to guns cam from video games, then going bird hunting with my step dad, then going out shooting regularly with family friends who had an incredibly extensive gun collection. Now, today, firearms are one of my passions. I’m a proud gun owner and staunch 2nd amendment supporter. And it all started by playing video games as a kid haha
Just took my Aug nato out on it's 1st range trip. Very impressed that it ran Wolf 55gr on both gas settings.
Hey nutnfancy, your reviews never disappoint! Great fan from Malawi (country in central Africa) would love if you could do a review on Jp enterprise rifles.
+Matteo Bizzaro Thank you and hello to Malawi!
Nutn, I'm a huge proponent of your SAWC philosophy, but I think one thing you are forgetting with the bullpup vs. standard format rifle (SFR for this com) debate is that while the bullpups weigh a bit more (2-2.5 lbs against your AR), in the firing position, a bullpup's mass is typically closer to your COG which should allow you to maintain that stable position for about as long or longer than a SFR. I do understand that carry weight is carry weight, and lighter is usually better, but still might want to take into consideration. Keep on Keepin on and make some more dang Top Expert patches!!!
Street price of the AUG (depending on configuration) is more like $1600. That's what I paid for my Aug A3 with five mags included. It's the Wolf steel case ammo you had problems with, right? I have run Wolf gold through mine with no issues. Seems like the feeding problems soured you on the shooting. Jerry Miculek has a video of a comparison between the AUG, Tavor and I think the FN 2000. Anyway he didn't seem to have any problems running the gun(having never shot it before) ran it faster than the other two and shot it with better accuracy.
13dma1rz I'm sure the AUG haters think Jerry's getting kickbacks from Styer! lol
You should check out the F90 made by Thales Australia. It is an Australian designed and made rifle for the Australian Defence Force. Badass looking rifle, can't wait to use it when I enlist. Also, it is being designated the EF88 by the ADF which just means Enhanced F88. Love the steyr series of rifles, shot the F88SA2 (Australian variant of the AUG A2), they shoot great. Keep up the videos mate, have a good one :D
f90 is not Aussie designed it is a licensed copy that steyr gave thales the permission to modify.
It's an Aussie made version of the AUG, with a few minor improvements. Don't kid yourself.
+Zoltan Csikos oops, my bad. I thought it could be different enough to be its own rifle. Sorry for the hassle :)
+Mr. SirKing But at least it's an improvement, I guess.
I watched this review before I bought my A3M1. Glad I still got my AUG. I enjoy it more than my AR's, FAL, and AK's. Initially, it felt awkward to me. It takes some getting used to, but the design has it's strengths, and the more I handle it, the more familiar the controls feel. AR's now feel front heavy to me. The AUG has better balance IMO. It is a heavier rifle than most, but because of the center of balance, it feels lighter than it is. With a barrel a little over 16", it's a much more compact package than any AR with an equal length barrel. To me, that means easier operation in confined places. I got the long pic rail NATO version, put a 1.5x ACOG with ACSS reticle on it, and love it. I wouldn't recommend it for someone who intends to buy only one military style rifle, but if you already have AR's, and AK's, it could be a welcome change.
I've been looking out for a genuine Steyr with the A3 mags, curious about how they are with a compensator. I want to see what it's like without the blast from the stock muzzle device and stanag compatibility. It's ingeniously made, and pretty high quality. Maybe one that's been tuned and modded a bit would really change the whole thing around. -Doodle
@@nutnfancy I have a warcomp flash suppressor I'm planning on mounting. They do a respectable job of taming the fireball from what I've seen. With a 1/2 x 28 thread on the barrel, you have who knows how many options for muzzle devices. As for mags, I use Magpul and Lancer. Zero reliability issues with those. As for mods, it has a Corvus Defensio shell deflector, gear head works low angle charging handle, and a Steiner CQBL-1 to complement my NODS.
With more aftermarket support, I think the AUG could skyrocket in popularity. And to think, I used to be dead set against bullpups.
Hey just wondering if the 1:9 twist has anything to do with your accuracy tests? Isn't 70+ grainers a bit high for that twist?
+qk1001 It shot 55 grain rounds just as badly. And you're right: 1:9 twist is ancient history. I wish I'd brought that up, forgot.
Nutn, we know you've covered POU on a WROL rifle, but I think almost everyone would LOVE a dedicated video or series on just that. What you want in a WROL rifle or loadout. Please consider, thanks!
lol 7:38 ... 10 years ago I wore this uniform ^^
+minervius Karriere beim Heer? :D
+minervius wow cool, we just had the old stuff, old steel helmets and the old Kaz, that with the hooks but on the other side i was just a Funktionsoldat. :)
I love your videos Nutn!!!
Thank you Nutn for making sure I never waste my money on THE lust weapon of the 80s. First touched one as a young teen, became a lust gun for me. Friend's dad was a DEA agent that used it as his issue weapon. Guess bull pup was preferable for cargo ship raids?
If you want a nice 80's gun, an sbr'd Uzi is pretty sweet. The the folding stock deploys like something straight out of transformers.
I own a AUG, I like it, do I see the downsides to it, yes. I replaced my charging handle for a larger one, does the charging stay reward, nope, I think that sucks and I'm not even sure how that design flaw is even possible. I have the NATO version from the factory, mine is topped with an ACOG 3X. It's not a competition gun, but run across a field at 200/300 meters and it will be the last field you run across. Last time, I checked NATO doesn't use steel case, in fact no one really does other than recreational shooters and likely Russia for their AKs. It's like saying my turbo corvette doesn't run on 87 Octane gas, well ok. Also, I'm willing to bet than anyone buying a AUG already has like or 3-4 AR-15's, plus a few AKs, Saigas and SKS rifles. So, if your hang up is shooting steel case, I think you might be able to find something to cycle it. In the meantime, the AUG is still cool and it's 10x better looking than the Tavor. As for removing the barrel, yes, it's practical we use it, every time we field strip our weapon platform to inspect and clean the barrel. Not too many other rifles can say that and frankly I hate pushing a cleaning rod up the throat of an AR, plus ever try sleeping in a fart sack with a cold ass all metal rifle, no fun. I will take the diminished trigger and tune it a bit and still feel good about what I have. In the end, it's a range toy, unless Red Dawn happens, I will never be engaging anyone with it, as murder isn't sanctioned in my state.
+Mike S BTW, the new X95 is even uglier than the Tavor, so you can have that one as well.
+Mike S Excellent comments - well said. Is it perfect - no. Is it a fantastic firearm that is good enough for numerous armies around the world and will get the job done - yes. BTW, slightly slower mag changes on my AUG don't seem to bother me in any of my shooting, as I don't live in a video game or have to repel a zombie horde.
I'm a little surprised at the negativity; used the Aug in the Irish Defence Forces, really liked it, particularly the balance, accuracy and reliability. I found it to be a handy, well balanced tool. True having transitioned from the FN L1A1 there were some adjustments to be made
but as Matthew Davie pointed out, training and practice deal with those issues.
That shot in the desert around min 25 with the mountains in the background was beautiful. Wish I had a spot like that
I've got the Aug z a3 and I love it. But maybe just because I am from Austria. Unfortunately I have never shot steel amo, so I don't know if it would work, but I think mine is more accurate, I can't tell you the moa, I've never measured them. Thanks for the video, greetings from Glock country!
Peter Hartl grew up in the Philippines and live in the USA you’re not the only one that love it!
All of the critiques are valid. That should be expected from a gun so old that hasn't been continuously improved. Microtech made an improved AUG called the STG-556, and it fixed most of the problems. I handled one in the gun shop, and the thing was as slick as one of Microtech's knives, the bolt was ambie, too. Too bad they wanted $2700.
Ryan Rex Those has a lot of QC problems
Yo Nutn, not sure if you are gonna go for one but do you think the changes in controls/features of the X-95 are a big enough improvement over the Tavor to be a contender for your liking?
If Nutn doesn't get around to you question, Military Arms Channel has a decent rundown of the differences.