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  • @DMSteeley
    @DMSteeley 4 месяца назад +590

    I remember doing regular pug ZG runs back in 2005, leader ran an optional voice chat and just blasted techno music for people to enjoy during the raid. Kids these days need to grow up.

    • @noonesp3cial
      @noonesp3cial 4 месяца назад +38

      This. Wtf happened man....

    • @vaylox09
      @vaylox09 4 месяца назад +89

      It's not kids it's 30 to 50 year old men.

    • @DMSteeley
      @DMSteeley 4 месяца назад +64

      They've grown into kids.

    • @supertzarlools2064
      @supertzarlools2064 4 месяца назад +5

      They dont play game. Its hard work.

    • @OWnIshiiTrolling
      @OWnIshiiTrolling 4 месяца назад +4

      ​@@noonesp3cialBoss mechanics happened, which made it normal to be on voice to coordinate

  • @Defau1t927
    @Defau1t927 4 месяца назад +454

    Weird to pull up a video only to realize you are actually in it..... I was the druid thanks for the run.

    • @tasmali5669
      @tasmali5669 4 месяца назад +1

      what srvr r u?

    • @Ziqoftw
      @Ziqoftw  4 месяца назад +19

      @@tasmali5669Crusader strike NA

    • @Ziqoftw
      @Ziqoftw  4 месяца назад +22

      GG!

    • @mattaxtell821
      @mattaxtell821 4 месяца назад +29

      Haha same here. Was like, wait that’s me. Didn’t realize I got to raid with ziqo! I was the mage healer fresh 40 an hour before the run. It was great laid back run GGs

    • @user-ub8lo1zh7n
      @user-ub8lo1zh7n 4 месяца назад +1

      cool haha

  • @StandYourGround69
    @StandYourGround69 4 месяца назад +219

    My guild is basically a group of 7-8 of us that have played together for a while, and we always bring 2-3 PUGs to each run. The only thing we look for are classes to fill certain spots for buffs, and we don't care about your logs. You come in, you do your best, you get to free roll on loot with the rest of us (MS>OS), and we clear the dungeon. If you don't know the fights, we'll explain basic mechanics and strats or link you a one-minute video to watch. Dungeon cleared in less than an hour. The attitude some people have is insane. It's a game.

    • @jamescasey4768
      @jamescasey4768 4 месяца назад

      EU or US? Are you recruiting? Sounds interesting. I haven't played SoD yet, but I'm an old school player.

    • @samuel9294
      @samuel9294 4 месяца назад

      its a game but i still dont bring anyone to raid, its still easy to wipe on some gnomer bosses.

    • @jamescasey4768
      @jamescasey4768 4 месяца назад +17

      @@samuel9294 what's wrong with wiping?

    • @0ihatetrolls01
      @0ihatetrolls01 4 месяца назад +1

      @@jamescasey4768 Im in the middle here, it's my time as well, i'd want to finish raid and go make my lunch for tomorrow for work lmao, wipes are fine but if its someone just switching their brain off then it can be annoying after a while

    • @samuel9294
      @samuel9294 4 месяца назад

      wiping takes more time than not wiping and people may leave after some wipes.@@jamescasey4768

  • @zirene5237
    @zirene5237 4 месяца назад +210

    The most laudable thing about this to me is that Ziqo could EASILY pull the "I'm a streamer" card and get into almost any group but instead he blends in with the people, with the rest of us. Very admirable IMO.

    • @Seedzification
      @Seedzification 4 месяца назад +3

      yea, ¨hey Im ziqo, inv" would get him almost anywhere, it would also invite trolls though

    • @frankopanklaric
      @frankopanklaric 4 месяца назад +4

      "ONe oF uS!"

    • @svens3722
      @svens3722 4 месяца назад

      this card is anyways prohibited because of cringeness

    • @sicks9016
      @sicks9016 4 месяца назад +3

      Real shit. Ziqo is a gamer at the end of the day

    • @cuneytunsal5422
      @cuneytunsal5422 4 месяца назад +3

      Hes multi rank 1 pvper. That alone makes him better than %99 of playerbase.

  • @soundas17
    @soundas17 4 месяца назад +463

    One thing i hate about these classic raid groups is the fact they treat a level 40, 10 man raid as a world first mythic raid on retail.

    • @elelonger4409
      @elelonger4409 4 месяца назад +25

      😂😂 it's actually jokes

    • @noonesp3cial
      @noonesp3cial 4 месяца назад +126

      ​@Ambridge- you kinda are missing the point. It's not that players are doing the bare minimum, it's that a lot of players are putting in the effort getting pre bis, buffs/consumes and still getting gatekeeped for having no experience in the raid

    • @travisstanley4638
      @travisstanley4638 4 месяца назад +38

      @@noonesp3cialor not being specced to what they expect you to be. WOW community is one of the worst gaming communities out there lmao

    • @noonesp3cial
      @noonesp3cial 4 месяца назад +26

      @@travisstanley4638 wow community is a lost cause

    • @noonesp3cial
      @noonesp3cial 4 месяца назад +64

      @@Ambridge- maybe you should open your eyes a bit more. I know it's hard for someone who does nothing but play wow all day but at least try.
      I got pre bis and always have my world buffs/consumes and still can't get an invite as a pug to a gnomer group.
      You are refusing to see the problem created by people like you. The 'minimum effort' people you are b*thing about don't make up every single non sweat player.

  • @tyshaft2155
    @tyshaft2155 4 месяца назад +505

    Ziqo keeping the community alive, not scared of easy content with ridiculous prerequisites. A man of the people.

    • @Tinman_GG
      @Tinman_GG 4 месяца назад +17

      They didn't complete the run

    • @bradleybarker4833
      @bradleybarker4833 4 месяца назад +17

      Only because the healer left at the last boss

    • @FisherTheOtter
      @FisherTheOtter 4 месяца назад +6

      @@bradleybarker4833 I wonder why he left.

    • @bradleybarker4833
      @bradleybarker4833 4 месяца назад +8

      @@FisherTheOtter idk, maybe he had to work the next day it was like almost 1 in the morning when they all stopped. I'm sure it was something to do with the time.

    • @bradleybarker4833
      @bradleybarker4833 4 месяца назад +6

      I know I can't pull all nighters anymore. I'm getting old, I do that now and I feel nauseous the next morning from being so tired. I used to stay up for days straight gaming. Not anymore haha.

  • @ashurafreedan
    @ashurafreedan 4 месяца назад +85

    One time, the raidleader asked me for a stool sample and blood test. Its out of control

    • @TheParez
      @TheParez 4 месяца назад

      😷

    • @Ziqoftw
      @Ziqoftw  4 месяца назад +17

      Did you get the invite?

  • @RichSmithson
    @RichSmithson 4 месяца назад +98

    I noticed the exact same thing in phase 1 and I must have run BFD 30 times across 3 characters. The Raid groups I joined where the leader grilled me like a job interview and checked my logs, wanted us on discord etc were the worst groups and they wouldn't even clear, or massive arguments would erupt mid raid and people would start quitting.
    Where the completely random, casual groups all were friendly to each other and we cleared raid flawlessly.

    • @rohacjustrohac3581
      @rohacjustrohac3581 4 месяца назад

      Tbh some randoms i ran with legit felt like they didnt have the screen on even if i wisped a guy something he said sure and didnt a thing 😢

    • @superomegamkiii2313
      @superomegamkiii2313 4 месяца назад

      @@Ambridge-and now you use the logic of "bad until proven good" for players just trying to do content that's been cleared millions of times over nearly 20 years.

    • @TheParez
      @TheParez 4 месяца назад

      The whole attitude towards SOD raiding has to change among the community. It's toxic and elitist AF atm and people are acting like the f*cking sheep they are.

    • @TheZeagon
      @TheZeagon 4 месяца назад

      The only two times i didnt clear bfd on alts was when i didnt make the group lmao once on second last boss and once on last as there wasnt even a melee dps to offtank

    • @ghostrecon3214
      @ghostrecon3214 4 месяца назад +1

      Right, my first run bfd, all pug, terrible gear, slow as heck because damage wasnt there. We cleared it first attempt no wipes. People are just goofy.

  • @tobi0
    @tobi0 4 месяца назад +55

    SOD has attracted the weirdest people expecting 99 parses, bis gear, people that ninja loot level 40 gear

    • @UwishForLife
      @UwishForLife 4 месяца назад +3

      People don't expect 99 parses. As you can see inviting any downy from trade chat that has no clue what they're doing results in a 2+hour gnomer and they didnt even kill all the bosses (first boss in video died at 10:14 they gave up after 12:20)

    • @tobi0
      @tobi0 4 месяца назад +14

      @@UwishForLife I legit look in world chat and see 90+ parser run or checking logs, why you tryna lie

    • @UwishForLife
      @UwishForLife 4 месяца назад

      @@tobi0 a parse run is not a normal clear run, are u retarded or? U also said in ur original post they expect 99. Now ur saying 90+ theres a big difference between a 90 and a 99

    • @kaaskop7451
      @kaaskop7451 4 месяца назад +13

      ​@@UwishForLife "Downy" disgusting. Way to make people stop listening to you immediately.

    • @UwishForLife
      @UwishForLife 4 месяца назад +2

      @@kaaskop7451 not my fault their downys

  • @Clickclackk1
    @Clickclackk1 4 месяца назад +43

    We had the same issue. We joined a semi guild run, they were first timers and "still learning"- we oneshot every boss, its litturally a walk in the park.
    Masterdegree requirements to use an escalator

    • @_deepcalm_
      @_deepcalm_ 4 месяца назад +19

      Classic players pride themselves on taking faceroll content super seriously. Half of them couldn’t time a +14

    • @Naeinsengimnida
      @Naeinsengimnida 4 месяца назад

      @@_deepcalm_The problem also works the other way around, i just think most player are not willing to try to understand the other part of the community.
      I enjoy both games for different reasons which makes me a better player in some ways, i think both version taught something the other version has lost.

    • @Clickclackk1
      @Clickclackk1 4 месяца назад +6

      @@Naeinsengimnida It feels like Ziqo said, like getting a job. You need a job. But to get a job, you need experience. Noone hires people without experience. Therefore you dont get a job.

    • @_deepcalm_
      @_deepcalm_ 4 месяца назад +2

      @@Naeinsengimnida I play retail (m+) and SoD, I like both. But the dungeon/raid content in classic is a fraction of the difficulty of retail, and it’s cringe to see how seriously some players take it.

    • @pablopandolfo8446
      @pablopandolfo8446 4 месяца назад +1

      Yep, who cares if bm does less dmg than melee, it's enough damage that's what counts. Pp are so set on this meta slaving for 10-20% gain when the boss dies if everyone does green parses. The most important thing is performing the mechanics.

  • @baskenz
    @baskenz 4 месяца назад +69

    I quit SOD for the same reason, cba to play a game where I have to permanently get into "job interview" situations. I realize some requirements are to be met fine with that, like I wont show up in lvl 20 gear...but cmon, who has 2 hrs to waste in finding a group...

    • @Thecultofwrestling
      @Thecultofwrestling 4 месяца назад +9

      Private servers have better communities

    • @Sanguiris
      @Sanguiris 4 месяца назад +1

      Literally just make your own group and you'll probably get a full group in an instant

    • @FukU2222
      @FukU2222 4 месяца назад +1

      Uniconically. V+ raiding is moar chill than that, lmao....@@Thecultofwrestling

    • @waldyeti3744
      @waldyeti3744 4 месяца назад +1

      I mean I agree with you but on the other hand I don’t understand why people don’t find or form a guild that is relaxed? I found one that suits my raid times and you sign up when you have time and the spec doesn’t matter because the content is piss easy anyways. People go pugging instead of finding a guild, completely ignoring one of the core elements of an MMO and then complain about pugs obviously being a bunch of idiots. Ask yourself what you can change in your behaviour because you won’t be able to change the idiots. Sure you can quit, that’s always an option, but there are other options.

  • @aranvalcarin
    @aranvalcarin 4 месяца назад +136

    Hey Ziqo,
    Aranvalcarin here, the Frost Troll Warlord! 🌌 I wanted to shoot you a thank you for the epic Gnomeregan run - it was an absolute blast tanking with you and your crew!
    You guys brought the hype, and we'd love to have you join any of our ten 7pm Gnomer runs. Consider yourself part of the Myrmidon extended family now! 🎉 Looking forward to more adventures together.
    Stay awesome,
    Aranvalcarin 🗡️💙

    • @Ziqoftw
      @Ziqoftw  4 месяца назад +38

      yep thats 100% the rogue tank talking lmao. Thank you for the invite

    • @frostreaper6077
      @frostreaper6077 4 месяца назад

      Good Sheet!

    • @7r17r1
      @7r17r1 4 месяца назад

      We have a tanking rogue in our roster and blizzard didn't think about you guys for the last boss :(
      You can't dodge or parry his attack... so you don't get your hp buff and just get rekt, seems really tough for rogue tanks :(
      For the last boss our rogue doesn't tank, he goes dps and we have a druid tank it

    • @aranvalcarin
      @aranvalcarin 4 месяца назад +1

      @@7r17r1 this content was filmed a week ago. I've since tanked it to completion.

    • @7r17r1
      @7r17r1 4 месяца назад +1

      @@aranvalcarin nice, any tips to pass to my tanking rogue ? He said most tanking runes feel useless
      Did you solo tank last boss ? With one or two heal ?

  • @ValdoxGaming
    @ValdoxGaming 4 месяца назад +168

    Thats how raiding should be, good time no sweats, and close to failiure. This is the true classic experience!

    • @holyimam2000
      @holyimam2000 4 месяца назад +12

      Underrated comment, having fun in a game? Wild.

    • @ateafan
      @ateafan 4 месяца назад

      this comment wins

    • @Alex-by4zv
      @Alex-by4zv 3 месяца назад

      100%. I was looking thought comments in hope to read something like this.

    • @thearbitersteven6503
      @thearbitersteven6503 3 месяца назад

      Honestly this is true. Parsing killed SoD, the game is pretty much depressing. No one is running dungeons anymore. It's depressing

  • @Stormsong93
    @Stormsong93 4 месяца назад +30

    Always grateful to have a guild that clears the content with a chill atmosphere so I never have to pug. 🙏

  • @fred303
    @fred303 4 месяца назад +23

    "skum of azeroth" "emerged from the sewers" "log checking andys" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @dimvots6729
    @dimvots6729 4 месяца назад +78

    retail for heroic invt : link acv then they invt
    Classic for no brain gnome : Logs - spec - gear - ilvl - exp and then no invt

    • @daiblaze1396
      @daiblaze1396 4 месяца назад +27

      Dang don't know what is up with that classic community.
      I'm fresh leveling for P2 and I see exactly those shity requirements (EU server) while the game is kinda trash.
      Was happy to test my beloved warrior class, same pain to level.
      On rogue, more fun but once you discover that you are more rewarded with spamming mutilate to kill a mob, you can tell that everything is way off.
      Why are people playing their lives on this easy game?
      Sadest experience in wow.
      SoD, but where is the discovery?
      Fucking min-maxing mentality is killing the fun.

    • @MetalMonster313
      @MetalMonster313 4 месяца назад +6

      I don't even link ahead of the curve to get into groups on retail anymore lmao, people just invite me. Classic is just full of 40yo boomers

    • @jamernn7552
      @jamernn7552 4 месяца назад

      @@daiblaze1396 You know what also kills the fun? When you're stuck hours in a raid with random people who have no brain to understand easy mechanics and/or have no clue how to play their class at lvl 40 where there are 2-3 button rotations.

    • @dcalliou7
      @dcalliou7 4 месяца назад

      ​@@MetalMonster313i highly doubt you get invited if you dont link the acheiv for heroic lmfao unless its a scrub pug group

    • @dionysues7449
      @dionysues7449 4 месяца назад +4

      @@dcalliou7 addons show your experience with your character and mains by simply mousing over them in retail.

  • @ozdawizz
    @ozdawizz 4 месяца назад +14

    You just hit on the nail on the head with what real riding was about. Good time, pleasant people, knowing their shortcomings but still wanting to gather and give their best and have fun.

  • @unclemo4692
    @unclemo4692 4 месяца назад +9

    What a perfect example of how hard it is to get a raid group… and the bs “requirements “ well done!

  • @valnerothgaming8918
    @valnerothgaming8918 4 месяца назад +10

    Anyone asking for your Gear Score in Season of Discovery should be avoided on principle 🤣 LMAO

  • @Asubatsu
    @Asubatsu 4 месяца назад +22

    The parsing/meta mindset is truly community-ruining and fairly toxic. Before Wrath came out there was someone in our guild that refused to do dungeons if you didnt have sunwell gear.

  • @Berkouilles
    @Berkouilles 4 месяца назад +14

    I swear, give them a level cap of 15 with RFC as the endgame dungeon, with no change.
    They will still find a way to require full WB, consumes and so on.

  • @mykediemart
    @mykediemart 4 месяца назад +1

    Reminds me of the "Fine I'll do it myself" meme. Big grats on getting it done and having fun

  • @Nglofc
    @Nglofc 4 месяца назад +2

    Love you for this Ziqo, thank you..wish there was more of this from influencers

  • @tj8606
    @tj8606 4 месяца назад +7

    Had a friend trying to get the "Immortal" title in LK. Every group had a GS requirement, and every patch the confusion came when they all had amazing GS and zero brains. People linking 99 logs on a random ulduar fight where they didn't do a single mechanic, then they die on the run, ruining the achievement. Happy I got the achievement w/ actual friends. Meta gaming at it's finest XD

    • @MrPsykopeta
      @MrPsykopeta 4 месяца назад

      nowadays they keep dying in fos to mechanics with 6.2k gs so dunno who did they get it XD

  • @IlIlIlIlIlIlIllIlIII
    @IlIlIlIlIlIlIllIlIII 4 месяца назад +8

    I just hit 40 on my main a few days ago. Luckily I am a priest healer so I got like 20 /w on my first LFG despite stating "0/6, green gear, shit at healing". I didn't bother looking up the tactics of the fights beforehand. I have 6 runes, but not the "required" ones. Also forgot to bring any consumables, even water.
    Ez 45 min 6/6 no wipes I pushed my 4 buttons from time to time. the Priest life isn't very difficult nor taxing.

    • @flagermusen
      @flagermusen 4 месяца назад

      Well that's because priest healer is the #1 most in demand spec. EVERYONE is looking for them. On the other end of the spectrum you have rogues and warriors and to a certain extent range spec hunters who nobody want, and will have a very difficult time getting into pugs, even with decent gear and prep. It is what it is.

  • @MikeGizzle407
    @MikeGizzle407 4 месяца назад +2

    You are the man for being a man of the community if the community was more like this I would get a lot farther than I have I still haven’t done the first level 25 raid 😞

  • @ShaddyzZz
    @ShaddyzZz 4 месяца назад +3

    Fkn love you man, most contagious laugh 😂 the pettyness, love it

  • @messybuttons7525
    @messybuttons7525 4 месяца назад +3

    You’ve inspired me to make my own Gnomer runs on my alts. Too many people want BiS and not players who will listen.
    I know all fights and they’re not hard to explain. People over explain them. I will be forming my own PUGS from now on.

  • @MrLegovas
    @MrLegovas 4 месяца назад +11

    Happened to me in phase1. some dude gathered noob-friendly BFD group and we did i think 5/7 or 6/7, but had a great time and every1 was grateful to RL

  • @robertseptim3579
    @robertseptim3579 4 месяца назад +4

    You trolling that guy at the end 😂

  • @j_t_eklund
    @j_t_eklund 4 месяца назад +2

    Love to see it man.
    Kudos to you for giving the random not so try hard people a chance.
    🤪🤠😎🤓😁

  • @fanofcodd
    @fanofcodd 4 месяца назад +3

    We cleaned it after hitting 40 on Sunday after the begining of the phase 2. We were in BFD equipment and some dungeon items from our dungeon grind. Cleaned it in one run with a few wipes because we didn't know all the mechanics.
    It is easy content. Just enjoy and relax playing how you want to play

  • @XCeazyX
    @XCeazyX 4 месяца назад +14

    My favorite part of this whole thing is the content is literally unlosable. So unbelievably easy. Every time I’m in discord with these guys I repeatedly ask “when does it get hard. Where are the mechanics? Is this the raid? Is this a boss?”

    • @zGunTroll
      @zGunTroll 4 месяца назад

      im my last 2 pugs with my priest we wiped twice on the first boss then the raid disbanded and in my second boss people could not play the electrocutioner mechanic and 1 player just logged of and the other healer refused to try as 9.

  • @madtrade
    @madtrade 4 месяца назад +2

    insane requirement for a god damn 'raid' that you can clean with half of the player naked and without any difficulty

  • @sarge1466
    @sarge1466 4 месяца назад

    Ziqo you a legend for this bro, it’s tiring getting into groups on season of discovery, I work hard to get all my items pre bis to constantly being turned down to raids, stv, ab, and wsg because of me being a warrior

  • @kylechermak7092
    @kylechermak7092 4 месяца назад +29

    I raid cutting edge in retail. Never really got big into classic, but decided to take the plunge with season of discovery after a guilty of mine wanted to play. Started playing sod at the end of phase 1, weaseled my way into a pretty solid guild with my mythic logs from Retail, and have been clearing no more every single week since first lock out.
    I am so unbelievably, dumbfounded at how much gatekeeping there is in season of discovery towards pug players. Literally, I have gotten into cutting edge guilds with less effort than it takes to qualify for some gnomer pugs.
    It’s so absurd.

    • @Sleepywalk112
      @Sleepywalk112 4 месяца назад

      The requirements are there because they can be there, 95% of the players in this game plays dps, hence 95% of the players are gonna search for the same role when raiding. So if 95% of the players are trying to get the same role at the same time, who do you take? Ofcourse you take the better player who can prove it.

  • @svenfilius2978
    @svenfilius2978 4 месяца назад +5

    i think this shows the beautiful nature of leading the charge in the other direction. Sure there'll be plenty of people that may say you're crazy but you never charge alone, and you did a good thing

  • @user-ff1hy8pu3c
    @user-ff1hy8pu3c 4 месяца назад +1

    I honestly love this! GG on you for taking in the ones not able to play and have fun. So far BFD, Gnomer have been legit ez. It's SOD, most have played everything that has been before, should be able to have fun. If people can pay attention to mechanics this is a breeze! Did it still in p1 gear no death's 6/6. The game needs more people like you good sir!

  • @mark8987
    @mark8987 4 месяца назад

    I agree. I like to have fun with it. Nice to see what can and can't get it done

  • @basedgoku4915
    @basedgoku4915 4 месяца назад +6

    We JUST did this last lock out (after 2 lockouts of not even being able to find a group). Did 4/6, had fun doing it, and got some raid experience. Kudos! The game is more fun with people like you playing it

  • @Ratnik_Svetla_1389
    @Ratnik_Svetla_1389 4 месяца назад +8

    You are absolutely right. I've been trying to find a group for five days and no one has even contacted me. And yes I am a rogue

    • @toastysoulmcgee
      @toastysoulmcgee 4 месяца назад

      Rip, not playing the right class for the phase. Lol

    • @toastysoulmcgee
      @toastysoulmcgee 4 месяца назад

      Which server?

    • @flagermusen
      @flagermusen 4 месяца назад

      Make your own raid then you can decide who to bring.

  • @aussieraver7182
    @aussieraver7182 4 месяца назад +5

    Im yet to join a Gnomer.
    Literally lost all motivation to continue playing SoD.

  • @fishnchimp
    @fishnchimp 4 месяца назад +1

    linking that dude the epic gun was so funny

  • @yzwme586
    @yzwme586 4 месяца назад +3

    I play SoD and it seems that 80% of people are like how you describe, looking for PUMPERS, LOGS, master's degree, SSN, etc. I bet most of the people in the comments are these people but when you say it, all of a sudden now it's bullshit and they agree with you.

  • @kevinagojo924
    @kevinagojo924 4 месяца назад +3

    You should get the LFG Bulletin board. it scans all chat channels (LFG, Trade, Local Defense, etc) and puts it on an easier format to view

  • @IpwnYouSuck
    @IpwnYouSuck 4 месяца назад +3

    The problem imo is that SoD is not a "fail-friendly" environment. If you fail a raid u will miss out on loot cuz ur locked to that specific ID. It should be like retail in that regard where u only get locked to bosses defeated. Now groups are forced to be sweaty to not miss out on any loot, and will take no risks - thus defeating the purpose of the game. This rule just make the raids less adventurous and more anxious in a bad way.

  • @darkev1ch
    @darkev1ch 4 месяца назад +4

    Huge respect for such positive content!
    Screw the Season of Meta! We supposed to experiment with tthe builds, setups, gears and not sitting on warcraftlogs masturbating on numbers.

  • @mariothaler7528
    @mariothaler7528 4 месяца назад +1

    subscribed after the first 2 minutes of the video.
    You are the man :D

  • @derekh8688
    @derekh8688 4 месяца назад +3

    At this point the WoW community is just so elitist. This isn't a game anymore but a second job. I'm so glad I've found a guild in retail who just ask to do your best and have fun.

  • @johng2794
    @johng2794 4 месяца назад +3

    rank1 glad cant do gnomeregan. too hard

  • @Alex-by4zv
    @Alex-by4zv 3 месяца назад

    hey man, that was so refreshing to watch you guys grouping together and actually experiencing what a lot of people should be after: a legit classic way of doing things some of us hold so dear to this day. That job inverview was disgusting on every level, ffs. If you ran a guild, I'd be fkn happy to join. I'm not any pro, got no logs, but I'm up for anything new to learn; to my defense, I think I do level fast. I left when cata first came out and haven't played ever since except for a couple of months of first classic relaunch, but wasn't able to play due to some rl shit. And now I'm back and looking for someone chill to play and dungeon and even raid if possible. I know this is random af, buy hey, I'm old school and I still believe random is the best thing we have in life. Cheers!

  • @victorpettersson4363
    @victorpettersson4363 4 месяца назад +1

    Nice to see this man! GG! The outcasts of Azeroth

  • @Andre-gj6ny
    @Andre-gj6ny 4 месяца назад +1

    Hahaha you messaging milkman at the end made my day shit that was funny

  • @TheUhmmmmmmmm
    @TheUhmmmmmmmm 4 месяца назад +3

    Such PPC. You did well for what happened on the last boss.
    Also got to make some friends along the way, that's what Classic what is truly about. Nice to see everyone so nice after the raid. Stay that way lads, you the true chads.

  • @melissakelly6047
    @melissakelly6047 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for making this video. I could really relate. This is why I don't play wow anymore even though I loved it. I got tired of being referred to as my role, rather than my name. Why do I have to pass all these tests; I just want to do a/the raid. I understand why players want more quality players in their raids, but this is SOD, not retail. I understand that players want quality players in their raids because they don't want to wipe 20-30 times, but sometimes they don't even want to wipe once. There has got to be a balance. Making my own groups was the only way for me to raid, when I wasn't in a guild or I was in a friends and family guild that didn't raid much. The main thing was I wasn't having fun anymore. That guy that turned you down missed out on playing with a superior player! 😀🤩You're awesome!

  • @tinakondo2828
    @tinakondo2828 4 месяца назад

    That is the reason I'm a lone wolf in retail and SOD. There are some players that think they are so above everyone that doesn't have the BIS or logs. You showed them you can pug a whole group and do a great job.

  • @gamehub-2
    @gamehub-2 4 месяца назад

    nice video
    i have Same problem with my warrior ,
    whispering ppl like 4-5 hours,
    for playing like **only 40min** :)))

  • @sergtrufanov5565
    @sergtrufanov5565 4 месяца назад +1

    That's how raids always worked on release back in time, people cleared several bosses, while getting upgrades , and tried their luck next time

  • @reaperbot5226
    @reaperbot5226 4 месяца назад

    heck even putting in the original LFG tool from that they later put into classic TBC roughly half way through. which required players to still manually interact but it was similar to a message board so it couldn't autofill or randomize the party for you.

  • @aleatoire6635
    @aleatoire6635 4 месяца назад +2

    Thanks
    - a warrior main playing mainly solo

  • @untitled06
    @untitled06 4 месяца назад

    genuinely had me laughing at the end there lmfao

  • @aboynamedsue6912
    @aboynamedsue6912 4 месяца назад +4

    We as small guild run gnomeregan 2 times a week with 2 groups , those 2 groups would be considered by most as the worst comp for gnomeregan (and to be honest it could be better).
    Often our 2 healers are our only ranged people but we manage to clear it without any problem, we do wipe sometimes on the last boss tho.
    But we always clear it with ease , even when our mage healer forgot his to equip his regen rune we killed the last boss with druid + shadowpriest as healers.
    People who gatekeep gnomeregan as if its mythic +++++++ they usally the trash themself , keep up the good work Ziqo!

    • @greendayfan1041
      @greendayfan1041 4 месяца назад +1

      every one is scared of people just looking for a carry, but what they dont know is it usually the one starting the group. xD

    • @icecreamman2687
      @icecreamman2687 4 месяца назад

      @@greendayfan1041always inspect the raid leader

    • @greendayfan1041
      @greendayfan1041 4 месяца назад

      true xD
      @@icecreamman2687

    • @trash6960
      @trash6960 3 месяца назад

      I'm new to WoW Classic but experienced in other MMOs like Path of Exile and Destiny 2. I'm playing an Enhancement Shaman DPS, and I've put in a lot of effort to gear up with pre-raid Best in Slot items and also studying raid fights and guides. Despite this, I'm struggling to find groups for raids. I have two friends who are also returning players and experienced in raiding in other games. We're eager to learn and contribute to raiding teams. If anyone is willing to help or recruit us, we'd be grateful! in game name - Doomco

  • @shtookeyGAMES
    @shtookeyGAMES 4 месяца назад

    The guild me and my friends created allow all players and all builds to perform with or without consumables or pre bis. We have no issue clearing gnomer with players not performing completely optimal. We had the same policy for BFD and never had issues.

  • @plasticbudgie
    @plasticbudgie 4 месяца назад

    The job interview thing has existed since target dummies existed. I remember trying to join a karqzhan raid back in the day and the leader made me dps a target dummy lol😅

  • @mllohrma
    @mllohrma 4 месяца назад

    Awesome man keep it up!

  • @Beechbeach
    @Beechbeach 4 месяца назад +4

    "I just wanna get into a good group and leech
    " - and here is the problem

  • @marcus21.
    @marcus21. 4 месяца назад

    Really enjoyed this video, Ziqo!

  • @PJSM94
    @PJSM94 4 месяца назад

    This is how me and my irl buddy did bfd. We just made our own pugs and cleared it. First week was 5/7 with no consumes or any idea how to do the fights. Then mostly face roll after that, even with a few green/gray parsers in our group. We even let a 40 dps frost mage take the epic staff lol

  • @RadarFinsR
    @RadarFinsR 4 месяца назад

    Honestly a lot sweaty runs that check logs and get perfect comps and shit still manage to fuck it up worse than that lol

  • @Guroji
    @Guroji 4 месяца назад

    "dragged on a little late" story of my life. getting guildies to raid on time is like herding sheep

    • @kaaskop7451
      @kaaskop7451 4 месяца назад

      Sounds like a bad guild where people don't respect each other's time. I've raided every reset and we've only started late twice, and it was a few minutes

  • @moviemaster13
    @moviemaster13 4 месяца назад +2

    It's been a problem in WoW for awhile now. Being ultra sweat and hardcore has its place and isn't inherently bad, but when it became the standard is when it started causing problems.
    There are many variables to why the gaming community in general has shifted this direction but i put most of the blame on "MLG" and streaming personalities. This constantly reinforced idea of "if you aren't min/maxing to the fullest you shouldn't be playing". These types of players always existed but at some point everyone decided that it was the only way to do things. I remember the early days of LoL, nobody knew what they were doing and nobody cared, (much like WoW) eventually the pro-scene arrived and suddenly everyone was concerned with META. if you were not using the best cookie-cutter build you were "throwing the game" and i saw many players pitch a fit over me using a non meta spell or buying items in a different order regardless of how successful i was.
    I knew these attitudes took root the moment Classic was announced where every streamer and content creator spewed the same stuff of "you can only play this way or you are bad". Not that Classic didn't have these glaring balance problems but these sentiments were etched into inexperienced players to the point of completely rejecting other players for the tiniest things that did not matter strictly because some streamer said so.
    It is okay to have standards and expectations to complete a goal, but it must remain relevant to the objective. The players demanding full world buffs and consumes to do molten core in Classic 2019 were the same players telling everyone the content was 15+years old and easy/boring and to not be taken seriously.

  • @davidm6329
    @davidm6329 4 месяца назад +1

    I did two separate groups today where we had discord, and the healers couldn't keep up with healing on the very first boss. One healer per run stood in a cloud and died, wiping the raid, and then quit the group.
    I know groups don't have to be toxic to clear raids. But fuck me, sometimes it feels like half the player base literally struggles not to drool on the floor.

  • @UnknowN-do2hp
    @UnknowN-do2hp 4 месяца назад +2

    i remember when i was doing final fantasy 14 coils dungeons, i couldnt find any groups because of my experiences and deafness that i cannot use microphone, that was worst experienced i've ever had in my entire life. I remember when i was playing wow beta, everyone was so cool and excited and nice, back in the days wasnt so difficult finding a party, but now in 2024, gee gee something changed

  • @KingJerbear
    @KingJerbear 4 месяца назад +1

    This is epic gaming boys, this is what playing vidya games used to feel like all the time... before minmaxing became a requirement. Good shit

    • @MrFuzziiWuzzii
      @MrFuzziiWuzzii 4 месяца назад +1

      Bros anthropologizing minmaxing^

  • @cougar-town
    @cougar-town 4 месяца назад +1

    That's how I've felt the entire time in WoW. People don't invite due to discrimination, personal reasons, and simply out of sheer ignorance, it's just that level of clown fiesta in World of Warcraft these days. They cannot accept a player into a group if they're different, it's on that level. It's very sad and frankly upsetting and depressing. The Raider IO system is the same way as this, so it's really no difference there.
    The big problems is this today in World of Warcraft...
    Interviews to join a group in WoW Classic
    Raider IO score to join a group on retail
    That won't change unless something fundamentally changes in the game for the better, for all of us, but that time might never come. Just like anything else, we're stuck in hell.

  • @649buddina
    @649buddina 4 месяца назад +1

    Ziqo you have become my favourite Wow streamer, you're a legend mate

  • @Angee2009
    @Angee2009 4 месяца назад +2

    I've always said "you can't beat a good pug". Bg's, Dg's or raids. That's always been one of the best parts of the game. The elitist have taken over and who the hell likes an elitist? You don't want to work for an elitist, marry an elitist, it would suck to live next to an elitist. Why do they think it's cool to be elitist? They suck the fun outta everything.

  • @JEM_GG
    @JEM_GG 4 месяца назад

    Makes me feel better knowing Ziqo does exactly what I do lmaooo

  • @koopk1
    @koopk1 4 месяца назад

    I had same experience on my hunter as well. I have 2 other chars: a meta warlock tank and mage dps/healer with ~90 parses and people still don't want to take even melee hunter.

  • @ItsByramTime
    @ItsByramTime 4 месяца назад +4

    Honestly man, I have not had this happen to me personally but knowing you cannot access content through elitism is simply horrible, I'm so happy that things can still be killed and enjoyed with a giant group of "current phase" misfits.
    Good on you for using your platform to highlight the issue and showing what can be done with minimal requirements!

    • @ItsByramTime
      @ItsByramTime 4 месяца назад

      Welp, i spoke too soon it's just happened to me tonight, dude told me i'd only done 5/6 kills on my logs, BUT I DON'T LOG? I've killed all the bosses twice since.

    • @mikescorpio13
      @mikescorpio13 4 месяца назад

      @@ItsByramTime logs hahaha clowns checking on that stuff hahaha achievement hahaha

    • @flagermusen
      @flagermusen 4 месяца назад +1

      What do you mean by "cannot access content?" You can always access the content, simply make your own raids, nobody is stopping you from doing that and it's not that hard. Then you are in position to pick and choose who to bring.

    • @ItsByramTime
      @ItsByramTime 4 месяца назад

      @@flagermusen Way to take the smallest part of my comment and make it seem like i'm wrong, lol.

    • @ItsByramTime
      @ItsByramTime 4 месяца назад +2

      Sorry, not wrong, but like it's not a problem, people don't like to run a raid, they like to join the communal raids and play with others, this video and like my comment is simply highlighting that content cannot be accessed with certain groups due to elitism, some people also don't join groups if the leader doesn't have the good enough logs to make themselves seem competent.
      Do you really think there would be such a shocking reaction to something like this if it was not happening in the current state of the game? c'mon bro....

  • @serocrux
    @serocrux 4 месяца назад

    Great on you for clearing it that far with this setup, I joined a pug who insisted on getting the perfect roster only for the RL to suck n the players to be lacking... Had to force everyone to join discord for last boss after wiping a buncha times

  • @PhilipMay-wo6jy
    @PhilipMay-wo6jy 4 месяца назад

    Good on ya man. I still think coms just makes it easier especially if there a few inexperienced

    • @Ziqoftw
      @Ziqoftw  4 месяца назад

      Yeah I agree

  • @matthewstewart5852
    @matthewstewart5852 4 месяца назад

    This was how my first run in gnomer went! Super laid back and the raid lead knew it was most of our first time in the raid. We had a few wipes but 5/6 for most of our first times was acceptable!

  • @iitzcrayz
    @iitzcrayz 4 месяца назад

    As a new player I have this problem often cause I don’t have friends to play with yet . The gatekeeping is crazy in this game 😭

  • @lautarette
    @lautarette 4 месяца назад +1

    Honestly i had the most clean Raid with pick up in phase 1 and 2.... Even having total beginnners (and sometimes being the beginner myself).
    People just dont want to struggle to explain or being patient, they want everything here and now... I remember when we use to spend an entire evening on one boss in MC....

  • @BomboclatReze
    @BomboclatReze 4 месяца назад +1

    Left phase 2 as feral Druid, levelled 40 on the 2nd weak, got my weapon from blood moon event and couldn’t find any gnomer group in 3 days, everyone required 6/6xp and was mostly looking for casters/hunters/healers

    • @Krelian89
      @Krelian89 4 месяца назад +1

      And in my guild we are always looking for a feral druid 😢

  • @blivion
    @blivion 4 месяца назад

    I just found you through Asmon. Very happy to find your channel

  • @Vert_streams
    @Vert_streams 4 месяца назад

    i did the same thing phase 1 and got a full clear no wipes it was great!

  • @pyrozx6r381
    @pyrozx6r381 4 месяца назад

    Ty for what you did! We need more people like you. Players nowadays are way to stuck up their own assholes and pickier then women.

  • @trashak3
    @trashak3 4 месяца назад

    Man, you definitely made those 8 people happy with this raid

  • @Jack_Rakan
    @Jack_Rakan 4 месяца назад

    Honestly, this is why I love my RP server. Yeah the horde pop is small (around 1k people on a weekday evening, more on weekends), but so far I have yet to encounter one of these sweatlords that ask you a million questions and then denies you based on spec. The most requirements I saw for pugs was 6/6 exp (7/7 for BFD). I also never saw a single advertisement for GDKP's even in Phase 1, nor adverts for selling/buying BoE gear with stupid amounts of money. Not after the seconds week at least, it happened a bit at first, but everyone who did those got openly mocked.

  • @Cynicv2
    @Cynicv2 4 месяца назад +1

    I feel this leveling up as a arms warrior. Currently lvl 32. Finding groups for dungeons is impossible since everyone is looking for mages and warlocks lol

    • @mogalixir
      @mogalixir 4 месяца назад

      Mage groups have their own meta due to drinking. You have to find a melee cleave group. Next week it’ll be +100% xp so more people will be leveling alts.

  • @christopherbailey3482
    @christopherbailey3482 4 месяца назад

    it was like this durring BFD too, im happy i got out early

  • @TruthHurtsLikeH3ll
    @TruthHurtsLikeH3ll 4 месяца назад +2

    Literally all HC players in retail who played old WoW said GearScore is literally dumb to use, it was used in WotLK first, never before...and its dumb because some items are not recognized on it...and people still ask GS and ruin the game by having ridicolous standards, its a game, not a job.

  • @Thargwin
    @Thargwin 4 месяца назад

    I basicly just always go looking for more people whisp you and you invite em.
    I had a total of one bfd run where we did not clear it

  • @luketee990
    @luketee990 4 месяца назад +1

    nice work Z

  • @frisera4005
    @frisera4005 4 месяца назад +1

    Respec mm and tell them you got true shot aura, should be some parser out there that wants it

    • @flagermusen
      @flagermusen 4 месяца назад

      This is unironically a good tip, trueshot aura + lion is pretty damn good pump for a melee parse raid.

  • @Leeroyboopin
    @Leeroyboopin 4 месяца назад

    o7 keep up the good work. As someone who has both raid teams where i can parse i use my alts and sometimes my main in runs like this. I swear the grey parsing runs are 70% of the time are more fun.

  • @MrGanon360
    @MrGanon360 4 месяца назад

    I know that feeling, trying to find groups and being judged for not having aotc or this or that. It's nice to see players who lookout for those who are lower and looking for groups

  • @mucxlx
    @mucxlx 4 месяца назад +1

    Its actually the same in wotlk. I have almost BIS gear from ICC HC 12/12XP purple/orange logs, only 3 items missing 6,5k GS. In raids with good players i am guaranteed top 5 dps. But then Ruby sanctum came out and i couldnt make it in the first week. As soon as 2nd week started nobody would invite me to a Ruby 25 HC group because i didnt have Ruby Sanctum XP or logs. And to this day i havent been there. And this is so frustrating that im more and more retrieving from the game. I log on for my ICC raid and thats basicly the only time i am online now, like 2 hours a week. And i dont think i continue to cata now because of all this bs.