RV Slide Out and Jack Failure - Troubleshooting and Repair | RV with Tito DIY
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- I feared this would happen, and it DID! Our RV slide-outs and leveling jacks stopped working. Luckily we were back home when everything failed. Here's how I diagnosed and repaired the problem with the hydraulic system. RV slide out problems are no fun. Hopefully this will help you find and fix the problem, especially if you have a HWS hydraulic system or older Class A motorhome.
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Thanks for taking the time to document this! It’s so much easier to just get down to work. Taking time to record and make these videos to help people can really make a whole lot more work for you. It’s appreciated
I appreciate you noticing the effort. Yes. Projects take much much longer when you make a movie about it 😃. Glad it was helpful.
Could you (or I) have unbolted those two nuts holding the pump manifold and worked on unit on bench ? My RV ('05 Dynaquest) that pump/relays can't be removed unless manifold removed. BTW: Those slide out/in solenoids look ratty. Could have changed those as well (to HWH newer lever versions) ? Thanks for video as never knew there were two high current relays. Mine are inaccessible.
Not sure. I don't know at what point hydraulic oil comes spilling out. Those solenoids are a bit rusty. I cleaned them up and painted them black again after the repair. I do need to order a couple spares to carry just in case. I'm sure one of those will be next to go :)
11:00 Torque specs: YES
Tighten it until it starts slipping, then back it off 1/4 turn 😂
It's aluminum so I'd be afraid of going until it slips.
You're obviously adept at electronics and saving yourself a heap of cash along the way. I thoroughly enjoyed your video.
Yes. Definitely lots of money being saved. When you take it to the shop most of the labor cost is troubleshooting.
I learn so much from watching you. Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome!
I've been wanting a meter with some sort of Bluetooth read out. For remote readouts. Anybody know of one ? We had a large reunion in Montana and several of the slides were making popping noises. This made me wonder if they were using screw jacks which should be lubed. But, if its hydraulic, there must be some other lube issue ?
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Thx for posting! I just purchased a 2004 Newmar Kountry Star that has the same hydraulic leveling system from HWH (although not for slideout). My motor looks original, so this video was great so I know how to change it when it inevitably fails when I am in the middle of nowhere! My research indicates mine is near the end of its service life too. Thanks again, I also like your easy, clear electrical testing instructions...
Hey there! Thanks for the comment. You're smart to be prepared. Glad I could help. I need to order a couple of solenoid valves too and keep them on hand. That could be my next failure :)
Great vid. I have separate HWH hydraulics now: Pax side rooms and newly installed HWH jacks (installed at the HWH plant in Iowa last week). Got back to Albuquerque and lo and behold my bedroom slide quit functioning (fails to extend) but does retract. Don’t think its the motor since the kitchen extends/retracts and the bedroom retracts. Any ideas??
Might be one of a few things. Start by checking for power when you press the switch. Make sure the e-brake is applied first of all. Then work your way back from the relay to the controller (somewhere under your dash), then to the switch itself. It might be one of the solenoid valves that controls the "extend". I believe there's one for extending and one for retracting. Hope that helps. The HWH doc I linked to in the description has a good step-by-step troubleshooting guide.
hi, Is there any alternative system to place the slide inside, I mean is there a way to insert it manually? Thanks for the information. Just in case I'm looking for an Allegro Brezze 28BR or a Serrano 31X, if anyone knows, let me know. Thank you
There is, but each system may have a different procedure. Mine involves releasing pressure from the solenoid valves and pushing (or pulling). There is a winch provided for this purpose.
Just seen you on TV, in an RV’ers Show…cool
Oh yeah. That's awesome. We filmed that little segment back in 2018 in British Columbia. Thanks for letting me know!
Just found your channel and subscribed, great content, Thanks.!
Awesome, thank you!
Wow, I’m so glad that happened when you were back at the barn! I’ve had a couple failures at home too and it’s always a big sigh of relief when you get lucky like that…. Great topic too. I had to clock my pump 90 degrees on my lithium/inverter project and felt the same trepidation about the hydraulic’s. “No clue” about that huge wire bundle connecting there! 😅😂
I know. Whew! We had the a slide get act weird while retracing on our way back from Alaska. We were in a very remote area in northern BC. We didn't open it again until we got home :)
@@RVwithTito Perfect timing thank goodness!
Hi Brian: did you install that blue sway bar system? Did it help? Have you done a video on that upgrade?
Thanks
Yes, Yes, and Yes :) Here's the video ruclips.net/video/m5naWaLrAOE/видео.html
great Video ... these RV's have so many systems to learn and even if you cant DYI on every fix you become more intelligent when speaking to the tech or mechanic . The way you shoot and explain your videos is priceless Thank you sir!
You are very welcome.
Changed mine out today after it failed. Took me about 30 minutes, thanks to your video. Keep it coming.
Great! Glad the video helped.
😅❤ This is by far one of your best videos for all RVers. I love love loved it. You're the best ... Keep them coming please
I came in from replacing my water pump and watched you work on your hydraulic pump. Thanks for all of the DYI videos, you have been a great help. Always look forward to your videos!
Nice. Hope the water pump job went well 👍
This is an excellent overview video man, and just what I needed 2000 rexhall aerbus.
Tito, We just bought a 2004 Adventurer 35U we haven't taken it out yet. I had a question about strapping the slides down. Did you do that in any of your travels, particularly on the roads to Alaska?
HI Tito, Based on your experience, what do you think are the ten most frequent problems in MH Class A? Thanks
Thanks for sharing. I loved how you use the wire clamps to put alligator clamps on your multi meter. Was also fortunate that this happened while you were at home and not on the road.
Thanks. Yes. The alligator clips came off a small jump starter or trickle charger (can't remember), but it really comes in handy when in a tight situation and you can't hold a probe. I also have attachments for solar MC4 connectors and a couple other things.
That electric motor is almost identical to many snowplow motors, it looks identical to my plow motor. Almost all of them fail due to the carbon brushes getting corroded and not being able to slide in to the rotor.
Yeah. The little piece on the end is what differs. I may work on the old motor. For now I didn't want to fuss with rebuilding it. Just need it working. 👍
@@RVwithTito Great. BTW, your videos are really good. We are on our 8th RV and like to hear what you do on yours.
did your slides run faster after replacing the pump our slides just quit working today i remembered watching your video but our slides were running slow pays to subscribe great video
A question about a previous video. The air conditioner you removed it what have you done with that project or dude I miss you end solution. Mine is a 2001. U . Just curious.
First of all, the thanks for the video on replacing the awning motor. Followed all the instructions, including the rush to do wiring and didn’t notice the coupler still sitting on the table. LOL. The jacks on our 2019 NEWMAR Baystar died. The contractor was toast but easily replaced and solved the problem. Contractors are most often confused with relays. Great video.
You're welcome! So was it the solenoid then?
Nice job.
Thanks!
Love you knowledge
Thanks for watching!
Brian, if you ever think it’d make good content, could you show how you did your probe extensions with those WAGO connectors? I think I got the basics, but I’m wondering if you sacrificed a pair by cutting the probe off to reveal the wire to insert into the WAGO? Could have used something like that on an under cabinet lighting project I just completed. I wanted to ID the romex pair but my meter wires were too short to reach. Great idea regardless and I’ll gin something up like that! Cheers!
Thanks for that feedback. I've been thinking of doing a multimeter basics video.
My system is just like yours. 2003 Itasca. Replaced my motor just 2 months ago. Then a solenoid went out for bedroom slide out. Would go out but creeper in about 8 inches. Replaced that and all.good. very easy to do. HWH has all.the parts. Also lost the hydraluic hose to the back slide. Easy fix. 32 foot line. Go to Napa auto parts.have it built
Cut the old line and just overlay the new one and tie it to the existing ones. Hope this helps.
That does help. Thanks. I have on my list to get a couple spare solenoids. I better get on it.
Thank you so much.
You're welcome!
Had similar problems watched Kevin Caudill you tube. Was shuttle valve on mine but now know how to check motor pump problem thanks
Yes. I've seen his also. That's where I found the supplier. His is a different model system though but similar.
Great Video, agree with others, this is good information for those of us that need that bit of coaching to figure things out, your troubleshooting efforts and documentation of it will save someone in this same situation a tone of time and cash. Agree with your statement after each fix, we get a bit smarter and more apt to figuring it out and doing the work ourselves.
Thanks for the comment. Yes, we can certainly learn a ton from each other to save time and money.
QQQ - When are you posting the rest of the Air-conditioner Replacement?
Been on hold but am starting back up on it...now that the slides are back on line.
Tito ,,you need a12 volt test lite.
GOOD JOB.
Thanks!
Auto correct sucks. Did I miss the video on the solution. ;)
No you didn't miss it. I've been sharing updates on Patron though. Basically, it's been on hold while I wait on equipment and fix a few things...like the slides. I couldn't access part of the intake with the slide retracted. I have most of the stuff now and am going to be working on it.
Thanks for the great videos, very similar to my rig (2002 F53) so I'm learning a ton of information from you. Watching the video, you still have your chassis batteries. I thought you replaced them with the big BB LiPo install. What was the reason to keep your existing chassis batts?
I replaced the house batteries. The chassis battery is still a single lead acid.
@@RVwithTito I didn't type that correctly, I meant house/coach batteries. In the video, your batteries under the stairs look like FLA batts. Is that for the Chassis or for the Coach/House?
@@eroenker That's the FLA chassis battery (just one). The house batteries fill a nearby compartment.
Need info on my slide outs. One end want come in . Can you help
Sorry. You'll have to have someone on site to troubleshoot the problem. Or manually retract it and take it in for service. There should be a procedure to do that in the manual for your system.
Thank you for sharing and showing!!
You're welcome
Wondering if you have had to replace the bushing that the slide out rides on i have an 03 brave and noticed one of mine is cracked and part of it is missing
I haven't. Is it a vinyl bushing?
@@RVwithTito its aflat nylon that the arm of the slide rides on they are known to crack and fall apart i took a pic of the area but cant seem to include it in my reply
Yikes, all that stuff in front, down low, where all the water, salt and grimes can accumulate. GREAT DESIGN!! Oh, if I only had a few minutes with these rv engineers and deisgners!
Yeah. After replacing the motor I sanded and painted all of those rusty spots.
Great job. Very entertaining and informative. Thanks Don
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
I have this exact same motor and I cannot find it anywhere even in he link provided
There's a phone # to Stuart's in the description. You have to call them and order one.
@@RVwithTito just noticed it's Sunday I will be calling them in he meantime.i believe we have very similar models is there anyway to manually extend the rear slide. 2003 itasca suncruiser here
The only way I know is to release the pressure on the slide out solenoid valves, then push from the inside. Very difficult. Maybe use some kind jack without breaking furniture. May be easier just to fix the motor first 😃
I feel for you Brian I’m just dealing with some plumbing issues toilet supply pex broke at the fitting also replaced the toilet valve and ball seal and new basket strainer in the sink not as bad as yours nice job I have not even taken the trailer out yet lol 😂
It's always something 😃
I think you may have solved my problem with our coach, thank you 😊
Awesome! Glad it helped.
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Thanks for sharing, as if I were there in person. Great video instruction.
Minus the laying on the rocks part 😊
I thought I'd share my own recent fix. My hood hinges were bent, so even when the hinge was fully adjusted, the top of the hood hung out about an inch. After hearing from Winnebago that the hinges were no longer available, I had an epiphany. I removed the hinges and used the upper bump stops on the hood to mount a couple of hood pins. I still use the original latch to hold the bottom, but now the top is pulled in tight with that $13 hood pin kit from any random auto parts store. It also means that when I need to work in there, I remove a couple of pins and set the hood off to the side. That gets me about 8 inches closer to what I'm working on as I'm not hanging over the hood.
Now I need to figure out how I'm going to get one of my inner tires off to take it in and have the valve stem replaced. It came loose of the rubber holder and got trapped behind the wheel simulator, and the end got ground down at an angle, so a tire chuck or tpms leaks air now.
Yeah. That hood does get in the way. Mine hangs out about 1/2" on the too and the whole design seems pretty flimsy. Thanks for the idea. Good luck with your inner dually.
@@RVwithTito Yeah, the hood SHOULD come out and up. With it coming out and down you can't help by lay across it when you're working in there, resulting in bent hinges. The hinge pin kit was so easy. I spent two days trying to adjust the hinges. It took an hour to switch over to the hinge pins.
@@brianvandy4002 Yes. it surely gets in the way. I may add that to my "things to do someday" list.
Always enjoy your videos.
Thanks!
Another great repair video, thanks Brian. Shortly after watching your video from Mexico on hitting something resulting in the jack foot slipping up and burying the jack post in the dirt, I had a similar issue. I hope this video is not foreboding hydraulic pump issues, at least I know how to swap out the motor now.😮
Uh oh...now you said it 😃. I've always been worried about the 20yr old hydraulics. So, it actually feels good to replace a critical piece with something new. But now should I carry a spare motor? 🤔
I was going to ask if you will be carrying a spare. If you were at a campsite, how would you have retracted your jacks and slides? Is there a manual process?
@@Chris.Y.054 Yes. There is a manual process that involves releasing the valve pressure then pushing/pulling the slide(s) in. The bedroom slide requires some serious pushing, but there's a manual winch for pulling the main living room slide back in. I haven't tried to do it yet. At some point I definitely should.
@@RVwithTito I would think the old motor lasted this long (20 yrs-ish), hopefully the new one will last a while. Of course if you have a spare you will never need it. BTW, I recently watched your awning motor replacement video, yesterday our awning stopped almost 3 ft extended….ok now I need to order a new awning motor for our 2007 Winnebago. I guess I better order a hydraulic pump motor too, then watch for your next failure/repair video so I can pre order parts :-).
@@markheene8852 Hopefully it lasts. Check the power on the awning first. Sometimes it's low battery power issue or poor connection. Those motors are expensive. Good luck!
Measure voltage to motor with switch on. Electric good then motor bad. Simple
Yup. Of course there's more you can check. But typically if it's not the relay then it's the motor. Good thing we were home. I carry a spare relay...but not a motor.
don't like how the wiring is so exposed to elements and how corroded the connections are. That could have caused excessive current draw causing motor to fail.
Agreed. Should be good to go for a while now. I cleaned everything up before putting it back together.
@@RVwithTito love watching your channel. keep up the good work.