I've used a tilt adapter with a macro lens before. It has some advantages for macro but it's very difficult to get right. With macro, the typical depth of field is just a few mm and that's if you're lucky. At high magnification this makes it very challenging to get much of your subject in focus. The solution in a studio is to focus stack, but in the field with moving subjects such as insects, shooting freehand with a flash makes some subjects impossible to stack unless they are kind enough to keep completely still for you. With a tilt shift you can reorientate that slender depth of field along more of the subject for more in focus. It's not easy to get right, but it's easier than trying to focus stack an ant! I've never seen a macro lens with the tilt adapter built in though. Admire the boldness of it.
Tilt/shift on a 100mm macro is actually a great idea. When I ran a market-research photo studio for a big food manufacturer, my go-to lens for close-ups was the Canon 90mm tilt/shift. Why? Because when your field of view was only about the size of a couple of strawberries, it was REALLY hard to frame precisely by moving the camera up and down on its stand; shifting the lens made it much easier to get the exact framing you want. Same with the tilt: making minor tweaks in the plane of focus could be done much more precisely by tilting the lens than by trying to re-angle the camera. The main downside to the Canon lens was that while it focused pretty close, it couldn't handle really small subjects such as individual mushrooms... I wish I had had this TTArtisan lens back then!
@@dehua-2730 Because after the food stylist has spent half an hour getting the perfect amount of glisten on the subject and positioning it in exactly the right spot in the composition, nobody wants to touch it again! Even with a geared tripod head on a geared column, it can be hard to move the camera in millimeter increments... there always seems to be a bit of backlash after you tighten down the locks.
The shift function is also amazingly useful for perspective correction that doesn't necessarily involve straightening lines. For instance, I use it often in product photography to mitigate reflections or glare, or in architectural work to make shifts to correct for things like objects in the line of sight, where simply moving the whole camera left or right would radically alter the composition, while shifting the lens solves the issue without composition shifts. The tilt function on a macro is critical when you start trying to correct for the very shallow depth of field on tricky surfaces, or objects slightly tilted away from your normal plane of focus. For instance, it is incredibly useful on things like snowflakes, where you might not have caught a flake completely flat - that razor thing DOF gets you a blurry flake, while a tilt lets you get the whole thing sharp. That tilt on a macro works wonders whenever your subject is not parallel to your focus plane. Combined with shifting and you can reduce the need for stacking or stitching.
There's also Astrhori 85mm tilt-shift macro lens, but I believe it's only 1x macro. The main trick with macro tilt-shift lenses it's the fact that you can shift your focus plane so it appears much wider thus allowing you to use much wider apertures. It's a bit sad that Christopher didn't tested image quality in 2x macro when lens is shifted to we can see is there any notable results for macro.
Tilt shift for macro is to enable a bigger DOF at a lower aperture. It works really well on this kind of lens and focal length, as 100mm gives very shallow DOF normally, but shifting it will give focus depth over a greater distance. Great for people who don't have a camera body that does auto focus bracketing.
@@k1k13004 My point is that an AF lens won't do focus bracketing without a body that supports it. That is why this manual lens is a good alternative for those who don't have such a camera body
It’s great to see Mr. Frost is one of the very few reviewers who describes some of what tilt-shift functionality is actually used for. Too many videos incorrectly describe tilt-shift as a novelty feature.
I love macro photography and video and macro lenses. Interesting to see a tilt shift on a macro lens. I don't think I have ever needed that on one. I don't think I have seen focus breathing that bad before. 2:28 When it comes out this February? It must have taken you a long time to get this review published!
Great review as always, Christopher! And thank you for answering my Big question...regarding the sharpness between it and the Laowa 100 f/2.8 Ultra-Macro lens. I have the latter on my Z8, and the sharpness obtained from it is stellar. Though I love and appreciate the tilt/shift functionality of the TTArtisan, (coming from a view camera background decades ago), I just can't sacrifice image sharpness for the pleasure. Thanks again!
The question is if if will ever be noticeable in the real world at macro apertures - at f5.6, any lens at 1:1 (effectively f11) is already very diffraction limited
I don't think the lack of weather sealing hurts this lens very much. I mean how often do you see people doing macro photography in the rain or under extreme weather conditions?
Great video, as always. As an M43 user, I was absolutely fascinated to hear they're going to produce an M43 version of this lens. That's going to make it an effective 200mm 2x macro lens which is rather extraordinary!
Uh oh, so it was clear that they're not making one for m mount anymore. Personally I like their manual assist tool, especially on cheaper, older model 😔 Thanks for your work as usual, Chris
Wow! I was expecting compromises and maybe 7/10 imaging performance when I saw the title of this lens, but this seems like a 9/10 and therefore 10/10 value. Gonna have to add this one to my bag.
If you start to use a tilt/shift (especially tilt) lens for macro work you will never go back (as long as you don’t need autofocus). You can set the depth of field exactly in that angle as you need and therefore „extend“ it by ease. I looove my Canon 135 TS /E macro lens wich makes my daily life much easier. So this TTArtisan is a very interesting lens for a bargain.
I think that tilt is essential in achieving unlimited depth of field (Scheimpflug principle,) an important fact which this reviewer failed to point out and to demonstrate. Still, regarding optical features it is a very valuable summary. Thanks for the video.
Yeah, the moment you said 100mm tilt-shift I was scratching my head! Kudos to them for doing something out of the box, which I always commend. However, I'm not sure these features are going to be useful (well, maybe the tilt to some extent if you want to manipulate your focus plain) for this focal length.
The shift I don't see being too useful. The tilt could be really handy for macro though. When you have a shallow depth of field it is critical to have it in the correct plane as the subject (or change it for artistic effect). This could be done by moving the camera, but that also changes perspective. Therefore you using this lens at close distances you can do some interesting things with focus.
Did you do any tests with the tilt function at 1:1 or 2:1 macro? I would have loved to see how much of an effect it would have and what the sharpness would be like in that scenario.
I could definitely see some diorama, miniatures, and stop-motion animation photographers getting a fair bit of use out of the tilt-shift functionality. Shame about the focus ring though, infinity to 2:1 magnification in 100 degrees of rotation is just not usable for most people.
Purchased in June 2023, I've only used this lens a few times outdoors for mushrooms and indoors with food. Recently, I can only use the lens at a focus distance from 0.25 to just past 0.35; beyond that, it won't turn further, as if something is blocking it. When I inspect with a light, it appears that the internal mechanism is scraping against something, as there's some sort of residue visible inside. It seems like there was a production error. And no, the lens has not been dropped. I've contacted support but received no response. I suppose they don't care, considering the hassle of returning it to China, even with a warranty. Well, for 341 EUR, I guess you can't expect much.
You didn't mention probably the most important aspect and only reason for combining a tilt lens with a super macro. Changing the ficol plane to get more of the macro shot in focus without have to stack. That was the only reason I clicked on this video and it wasn't even a mention, whether it worked or not. Looking through the comments, I see alot of others mentioning the same thing. It feels like you reviewed something that you had no idea what you had in your hands or what it's greatest strength could be used for.
No, this issue is only a concern for tilt-shift adapters, which allow regular lenses to be shifted/tilted. To keep the FX coverage while being shifted, a lens needs to have a much bigger image circle than just FX (Most tilt-shift lenses are basically medium format lenses), which isn't the case for regular lenses, but this one is a "native" tilt shift.
A bargain compared to OEM lenses, e.g. Micro Nikkor 85mm F2.8 PC-E (@US $2k). But tilt shift macros being for pro studio product photography (unworkable in the field) ,can't see a big market for this.
Are those screw threads on the side(s) of the front of the lens? Could that be used to mount a light close to the front element? Hard to tell from what you've shown but seems odd placement for screw holes otherwise.
Ok, I found it. I would say that it would be easy if you say it always at the beginning and also write it on the screen or description, so if someone misses it, can easily find where you say it
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I've used a tilt adapter with a macro lens before. It has some advantages for macro but it's very difficult to get right. With macro, the typical depth of field is just a few mm and that's if you're lucky. At high magnification this makes it very challenging to get much of your subject in focus. The solution in a studio is to focus stack, but in the field with moving subjects such as insects, shooting freehand with a flash makes some subjects impossible to stack unless they are kind enough to keep completely still for you. With a tilt shift you can reorientate that slender depth of field along more of the subject for more in focus. It's not easy to get right, but it's easier than trying to focus stack an ant!
I've never seen a macro lens with the tilt adapter built in though. Admire the boldness of it.
When it comes out this February? Phew, that's a long lead time.
Looks like the review was prepared much earlier as we can see with christmas sample pictures. As far as I know it's available starting from today.
Tilt/shift on a 100mm macro is actually a great idea. When I ran a market-research photo studio for a big food manufacturer, my go-to lens for close-ups was the Canon 90mm tilt/shift. Why? Because when your field of view was only about the size of a couple of strawberries, it was REALLY hard to frame precisely by moving the camera up and down on its stand; shifting the lens made it much easier to get the exact framing you want. Same with the tilt: making minor tweaks in the plane of focus could be done much more precisely by tilting the lens than by trying to re-angle the camera. The main downside to the Canon lens was that while it focused pretty close, it couldn't handle really small subjects such as individual mushrooms... I wish I had had this TTArtisan lens back then!
why not moving the object instead to frame it. Making adjustment can be done with a proper tripod head.
@@dehua-2730 Because after the food stylist has spent half an hour getting the perfect amount of glisten on the subject and positioning it in exactly the right spot in the composition, nobody wants to touch it again! Even with a geared tripod head on a geared column, it can be hard to move the camera in millimeter increments... there always seems to be a bit of backlash after you tighten down the locks.
The shift function is also amazingly useful for perspective correction that doesn't necessarily involve straightening lines. For instance, I use it often in product photography to mitigate reflections or glare, or in architectural work to make shifts to correct for things like objects in the line of sight, where simply moving the whole camera left or right would radically alter the composition, while shifting the lens solves the issue without composition shifts.
The tilt function on a macro is critical when you start trying to correct for the very shallow depth of field on tricky surfaces, or objects slightly tilted away from your normal plane of focus. For instance, it is incredibly useful on things like snowflakes, where you might not have caught a flake completely flat - that razor thing DOF gets you a blurry flake, while a tilt lets you get the whole thing sharp. That tilt on a macro works wonders whenever your subject is not parallel to your focus plane. Combined with shifting and you can reduce the need for stacking or stitching.
There's also Astrhori 85mm tilt-shift macro lens, but I believe it's only 1x macro. The main trick with macro tilt-shift lenses it's the fact that you can shift your focus plane so it appears much wider thus allowing you to use much wider apertures. It's a bit sad that Christopher didn't tested image quality in 2x macro when lens is shifted to we can see is there any notable results for macro.
the astrhori is only tilt, no shift ;)
Tilt shift for macro is to enable a bigger DOF at a lower aperture. It works really well on this kind of lens and focal length, as 100mm gives very shallow DOF normally, but shifting it will give focus depth over a greater distance. Great for people who don't have a camera body that does auto focus bracketing.
AF bracketing requires AF lens. Not only a body that enables this.
@@k1k13004 My point is that an AF lens won't do focus bracketing without a body that supports it. That is why this manual lens is a good alternative for those who don't have such a camera body
@@banditalley9592 right. I need to see some samples showing a good dof in macro.
@@k1k13004 Focus bracketing can be done manually with every camera-lens combination preferably on a macro sledge!
@@WMedl read carefully. We were talking about AF bracketing.
It actually makes sense to have a tilt shift marco. It will be a bit of a fiddle but with practise you wont have to stack anymore.
It’s great to see Mr. Frost is one of the very few reviewers who describes some of what tilt-shift functionality is actually used for. Too many videos incorrectly describe tilt-shift as a novelty feature.
Thank you very much for the great review and tests. Finally, Canon's tilt-shift optics have at least some competitor.
A truly specialiced lens. Thanks for the review.
Perfect, one year's since i'm waiting this lens with tilt shift fonctionnality 🤩
I love macro photography and video and macro lenses. Interesting to see a tilt shift on a macro lens. I don't think I have ever needed that on one. I don't think I have seen focus breathing that bad before. 2:28 When it comes out this February? It must have taken you a long time to get this review published!
I had the exact same thought!
The shot of the Christmas tree was a clue!
Great review as always, Christopher! And thank you for answering my Big question...regarding the sharpness between it and the Laowa 100 f/2.8 Ultra-Macro lens. I have the latter on my Z8, and the sharpness obtained from it is stellar. Though I love and appreciate the tilt/shift functionality of the TTArtisan, (coming from a view camera background decades ago), I just can't sacrifice image sharpness for the pleasure. Thanks again!
The question is if if will ever be noticeable in the real world at macro apertures - at f5.6, any lens at 1:1 (effectively f11) is already very diffraction limited
Your wife does a lovely job of selecting subjects for you to photograph. You do make a great team!
I don't think the lack of weather sealing hurts this lens very much. I mean how often do you see people doing macro photography in the rain or under extreme weather conditions?
I was hoping that you are soon going to make a review of this lens! Thx!
Great video, as always. As an M43 user, I was absolutely fascinated to hear they're going to produce an M43 version of this lens. That's going to make it an effective 200mm 2x macro lens which is rather extraordinary!
I hope the sharpness holds up.
Would have loved a head to head vs TS-E 90mm.
Uh oh, so it was clear that they're not making one for m mount anymore. Personally I like their manual assist tool, especially on cheaper, older model 😔
Thanks for your work as usual, Chris
Great they’re trying something outside the usual formula
Wow! I was expecting compromises and maybe 7/10 imaging performance when I saw the title of this lens, but this seems like a 9/10 and therefore 10/10 value. Gonna have to add this one to my bag.
If you start to use a tilt/shift (especially tilt) lens for macro work you will never go back (as long as you don’t need autofocus). You can set the depth of field exactly in that angle as you need and therefore „extend“ it by ease. I looove my Canon 135 TS /E macro lens wich makes my daily life much easier. So this TTArtisan is a very interesting lens for a bargain.
I think that tilt is essential in achieving unlimited depth of field (Scheimpflug principle,) an important fact which this reviewer failed to point out and to demonstrate. Still, regarding optical features it is a very valuable summary. Thanks for the video.
Yeah, the moment you said 100mm tilt-shift I was scratching my head! Kudos to them for doing something out of the box, which I always commend. However, I'm not sure these features are going to be useful (well, maybe the tilt to some extent if you want to manipulate your focus plain) for this focal length.
For product photography it will be useful.
The shift I don't see being too useful. The tilt could be really handy for macro though. When you have a shallow depth of field it is critical to have it in the correct plane as the subject (or change it for artistic effect). This could be done by moving the camera, but that also changes perspective. Therefore you using this lens at close distances you can do some interesting things with focus.
@@JeDxDeVu yep, the tilt maybe.
@@MattTrevett that's the thing though, the minimum focus distance is too far. Not saying it'll be useless, but not as useful as it can potentially be.
Did you do any tests with the tilt function at 1:1 or 2:1 macro? I would have loved to see how much of an effect it would have and what the sharpness would be like in that scenario.
I could definitely see some diorama, miniatures, and stop-motion animation photographers getting a fair bit of use out of the tilt-shift functionality. Shame about the focus ring though, infinity to 2:1 magnification in 100 degrees of rotation is just not usable for most people.
Purchased in June 2023, I've only used this lens a few times outdoors for mushrooms and indoors with food. Recently, I can only use the lens at a focus distance from 0.25 to just past 0.35; beyond that, it won't turn further, as if something is blocking it. When I inspect with a light, it appears that the internal mechanism is scraping against something, as there's some sort of residue visible inside. It seems like there was a production error. And no, the lens has not been dropped. I've contacted support but received no response. I suppose they don't care, considering the hassle of returning it to China, even with a warranty. Well, for 341 EUR, I guess you can't expect much.
You didn't mention probably the most important aspect and only reason for combining a tilt lens with a super macro. Changing the ficol plane to get more of the macro shot in focus without have to stack. That was the only reason I clicked on this video and it wasn't even a mention, whether it worked or not.
Looking through the comments, I see alot of others mentioning the same thing. It feels like you reviewed something that you had no idea what you had in your hands or what it's greatest strength could be used for.
IS IT APS-C only when shifted or tilted? 90 % of these lenses are. I guess I will find out somewhere in the video.
No, this issue is only a concern for tilt-shift adapters, which allow regular lenses to be shifted/tilted. To keep the FX coverage while being shifted, a lens needs to have a much bigger image circle than just FX (Most tilt-shift lenses are basically medium format lenses), which isn't the case for regular lenses, but this one is a "native" tilt shift.
@@pierrevilley6675 This was true for many years, but do not apply to most new Chinese Tilt Shift lenses.
Well the tilt shift also gives you the option of optical miniature effect
Re: workflow, lol. Same here. Thanks for the review!
this would be a cracking product photography lens, enabling focus across a shifted plane, but it's not sharp enough. Pity
Chris, Viltrox 16mm f1.8 please sir. With some focus Especially for Astro.
This lens seems very good. For macro you’re stopping down anyways
A bargain compared to OEM lenses, e.g. Micro Nikkor 85mm F2.8 PC-E (@US $2k). But tilt shift macros being for pro studio product photography (unworkable in the field) ,can't see a big market for this.
Would be great for miniaturisation/diorama effect at 100mm
Hi! I see in used market a canon 135mm f2.8 soft focus, I think it is a uncommon but interesting lens could you bring it in a video
best review..
May I know if this lens tilt feature helps with getting a deep depth of field when comes to macro photography?
Is there a reason you haven't reviewed the Nikon 200-500mm?
the color is pretty good ,could be a fun toy
Are those screw threads on the side(s) of the front of the lens? Could that be used to mount a light close to the front element? Hard to tell from what you've shown but seems odd placement for screw holes otherwise.
please review new Samyang AF 35-150mm F2-2.8 FE🙏🙏
Do you have to have a mirrorless camera for all tilt shift lenses?
February?
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Be nice if someone can make a 12mm/2.0 tilt-shift lens?
A shift function on a tele lens, for what to do ? This product is ridiculous ! When a shift function on a wide angle at an affordable price ?
I can never find the part in the video where you say the price. Never.
Ok, I found it. I would say that it would be easy if you say it always at the beginning and also write it on the screen or description, so if someone misses it, can easily find where you say it
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