Moondrop Stellaris | Shoots for the stars. Review with demos
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Just saw this. You are a gentleman and a scholar 🤘🏻❤️
Dan is reviewer endgame, I don't even need to watch anyone else.
I'm still baffled by what 7hz achieved with the Timeless, they started this whole planar wars thing and took down all contestants, remaining undefeated to the very end (at least to my ears). Crazy stuff!
Firstly, I just love the phrase “endgame reviewer.” I deeply appreciated hearing that. Thank you, thank you 🙇🏻♂️
Secondly, I love your take and agree. The Timeless is indeed remaining my favorite besides the MEST. Well, of course making room to enjoy some OH10 would be nice.
I don’t get to enjoy the other gear I love as much as I would love to. But all is well! I get to hear new things so often, and that in itself is a curious and fun kind of adventure.
….anyway! So yea, I will say I cheat a bit and listen to my car speakers a lot and just enjoy having music all around me 🤤 fidelity be damned…’ish
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@@dansaudioreviews What happened to the S12?, suddenly they are gone from your reviews
@@jlparcerisa curious aswell, deciding between s12 pro and timeless right now. listening to lots of female vocals right now
Man been loving your reviews, quality of picture (4K HDR) and discussion. I totally understand everything you say and it makes sense and sounds accurate to what i also hear. I think this is the best iem channel on the tubes....
Thank you so much! This is probably the best and most informative review I've ever seen. you really helped me understand as a total newbie to IEM's what was going on with the Stellaris and it's shortcomings ❤❤❤
First, the shirt is awesome. Second thank you for continuing to do these. I'm a geek for this stuff and it's nice seeing reviews from someone who appears to think about iems and things that impact their sound like I do. Please keep them coming.
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Hi Dan… Good to hear your unique & fun style of review again! I am eagerly waiting to hear for the NEW 7Hz Timeless , waiting to know what sort of enhancements they will bring to the table … as an IEM that start & also set the highest standard in planar area! Yeee haa!
thank you for doing comparisons across different price points, it is rarely done, so we now have a clue about what money buys us in term of sound quality, from your selection of iem the sweet spot for the law of diminishing return seems to be around $150
*everyone gangsta until Timeless stepped in*
Really this comparison shows why Timeless is a legend.
Banger of a tune for the introduction 👌👌 Keep up the great work you're doing!
Despite having the S12s and the Ze Tian Wus, I keep coming back to my T3+. The T3+ are extremely comfortable to me and I find their sound to be amazing with a pair of Spinfit CP100+ tips.
I Have he same 'problem'.The T3plus,technicisms apart,has to me that feeling that a real human laringe is inside that things,and no other iems till now gives to me that feeling.
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The tips.
Stellaris sounds amazing!! As someone who LOATHE bass and cheap harman curve iem it's a godsend. Thank you for the demo.
Thank you for introducing me Xenns Up, the greatest thing for bassheads. I am not a basshead, but I know a lot of friends who are and hadn't know a good EST iem option with this kind of sound until find out your channel.
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Yo Dan this one came so fast. You are doing a great job as always. The quality of the demos keep getting better and better... 🤓
My impressions:
-Stellaris with all the clarity and details but unfortunately very shouty and bright at the same time and I think it could have more bass also to make it sound less thin...
-The 7hz Zero even though it lacks on the technical departments still so clean and fun. I can't believe it is just $20 🤯.
-T3plus the all rounder king. Very close to the zero in therms of tonality but with more bass!
-Timeless very clean and fun as always also bringing that fullness wich I was missing in the Stellaris.
-Ikko OH10 It was like a mix of the Timeless bass and the Stellaris treble. too Bright but also very full and engaging on the low end.
-The MEST was little bit unfair comparison I have to say 😂. But is incredible how it can sound so cristal clean without being shouty or too bright...
-Dioko I wouldn't imagine it could be better but it actuality is less thin and bright then the Stellaris. But still not my cup of tea.
Hi Dan! GREAT job as always!!!
The explanation of the graph is that we perceive sound not only as an absolute value (in dB) of a specific frequency but (even more) as a ratio between the frequencies themselves. If we want to increase our perception of the bass, we can achieve the purpose both by raising the decibels in the bass area and by lowering them in the high frequency area (keeping the bass value unchanged).
In the case of Stellaris / Dioko, we perceive the latter as much more present in the bass although the values measured in that area are actually lower than Stellaris because in Stellaris the high frequencies are so above the low frequencies that they end up completely annihilating them. It's a typical example of unbalanced and poorly tuned signature.
Tin t3+ is my go to iems for everything.
that moment when u heard the mest....is the moment when you starts to question life itself.. just what am I doing lmao.. with the amount of cash I've spent on this hobby buying cheaper stuff, I could actually bought a pair MEST MK1 ,granted if I can find one. Thanks Dan! looking forward to see more demos from you... it is never boring...to watch your content from start to end..
OH10 is something everyone needs to try. That and the timeless are 2 phones I think all need to have. OH 10 is an icon of earphones and not all will agree, but it is an important phone. I cannot wait until I can afford the Mest. Until then, I will have to stick with the OH10 and timeless that I do have. Love them both. Also love the Hurt song in your comparisons.
Thanks for your efforts again Dan, these comparisons are great for the purchase decision.
I'm Turkish and in Turkish language we have saying "Mest oldum" which means like "I've fallen in love". I think when I heard how MEST sounded I definitely felt like that :)
Yeah, MEST is really THAT amazing! I'm in love with it 🤩 I was greatly influenced by Dan's videos before purchasing it, although I bought the MKII version, 'cause I could not find the OG anymore.
I really appreciate the meaning of the word: MEST. Haha nice!!
This was the very video that convinced me to get the 7Hz timeless and almost a year later they’re still the best IEMs I’ve ever listened to by a mile, keep up the great videos
❤️ thank you for the trust and letting me know too that it still holds up for you!
Dan, your music playlist is fascinating. Boogie Wonderland? Brilliant. Wish I could send you mine, now. Take care.
A very accurate demonstrative review. The Ikko OH-10 are very underrated. The Moondrop Stellaris are beautifully crafted but no match for the real competition here.
No idea about this iem's but This is the most accurate review that ive watched, never pay attention about graphs coz mostly it differs when you hear in actual IMO but he actually present how you feel/hear about iem's 💯. You earned my subscribe
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I bought these based on Zeo's review. I think I will do a burn-in and compare back to this video. great work, I have the 7hz and the Dioko Salnotes also.
I lop u dan...!!! I'm so glad u didn't die on us your die hard subscribers ( even tho i can't join with your patreon this moment ) many thanks again to chris at BGGA, he is one of few legend reviewers when it come to personality in our hobby. Thank you mr dah our teacher 🙏
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Thank you this makes it a little easier for someone trying to get in to iems ❤
I own both and yep the stellaris has more bass i can attest to that. It's probably the fit. But you're last statement is right, I too think its that amount of treble making it sound thinner. Amazing review as always. I hope you get more subs. I love how you explain your vids after comparisons.
Dan Sir I totally agree with Giving your ears the time to adjust as many of my IEM’s I own
(And Full Size Cans For that Matter) on first listen sometimes sounded not what I was expecting for the Money I had outlayed,Yet give them a few Songs and a bit of time your ears seem to Tune into the sound then you get it.
The Stellaris I do not own but I’ve seen mixed reviews but none really praising its tuning.
The Salnotes Zero I do own (2 pairs actually as I like them that much) and this review of sound does not do them justice especially for $20,On the Flip side I’m so glad I own the Timeless 7Hz as to contradict my earlier comment these are simply superb straight out of the box and have just got better with use.
Overall it’s Amazing the leaps and bounds of available Sound you can get nowadays for so little outlay and I think it’s just going to get more and more regular
Dioko vs Stellaris was no contest as the Dioko just literally opened up the Music and lifted the Sharp Veil The Stellaris has.Moondrop Will retune the Stellaris and it may become a decent IEM.
On a personal note I still cannot ever see myself paying anywhere near $1000 or over for any pair of IEM’s when such close and even better Sound in my opinion can be had for a fraction of that kind of money,Or Of course I would put that kind of outlay into a full size pair of Headphones.
Great Review As Always Dan and Thanks for the Time and Effort doing these Reviews from the UK 🇬🇧 👍🎼🎼🎼🎼🎼
Nice review mate 🙂. nice to see that quality of ur videos increase constanly , it never goes down 😊. And about the 7hz zero I think that 7hz zero just have rounded edges and less of that uppermidrange shout compare to the stellaris. On the sound demo it may seem maybe as a less exciting maybe too smooth. I feel that demos do more justice to iems with a sharper edges and transients 😄.
I am in love with your a to b comparison of sounds. I honestly cant read the graphs as i am new to the hobbies tho so far bought some "good" budget iem ftom crin's list (yes, he's currently my " guide" on iem) and i love it so far. Can't wait for new content on budget iem...ehemm hexa
Thank you sir for your excellent reviews, I think there great 👍
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Wow, Dan I love how you make everything so understandable. We have similar taste in tuning and music. Awesome video. 👍 My favorite gear is the timeless, so I guess I need $1500 to get an upgrade, it’s a bargain at $200
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I went exactly from Timeless to MEST. It is really a good way to upgrade. Timeless/S12 are great for the price! But man, do NOT listen to MEST if you don't have the money to take it. Otherwise it will ruin how you see/listen the others. Haha the brain is incredible... 😂
@@ramaidaugirdas this
@@ramaidaugirdas Blessed be the one whose heart can enjoy 5 dollars portable speaker! ✌️🥰
@@julest2503 Hahaha can't disagree!
Great review as always, Dan. Thank you!
Ps. Please keep an eye out for iKKo Asgard OH5; quite obscure in terms of recognition, reviews, and hype but based on my interpretation of what Chris at MajorHiFi is saying in his review, it could surpass even the Dunu SA6 Ultra which is supposed to be better than the S+ Original SA6 you reviewed.
As someone who's used to thin sounding treble from my shitty phone speakers before I got the Chus to me the Stellaris treble sounds acceptable but the lower midrange definitely feels lacking and makes things feel kinda off, the Dioko just does the neutral bright signature more cohesively in comparison without making things sound too thin.
Great review as always!
The first reviewer that actually warned me about the Timeless being potentially fatiguing. I've always felt that the Timeless might have a smidge more treble than I usually like in my music.
Respect for pointing that out, brother.
That was also my experience with it. I put a -2db high shelf filter at 9k hz and it sounds very good.
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I remember when “Dan” was only at 200 subscribers. He has come so far!!
Great review with the comparisons. I found I wanted to have gain or volume control to make it why I like the Stellaris. Because the mids are tuned down I can crank it more. All the others come out of the hole sounding louder but can start sounding too loud. If you bring the Stellaris up a bunch it will compare more favorably and is what I like about it.
I can't tell how the Stellaris sounds live, but I'm listening this video using the Qudelix-5K connected to my Avantone Planar Pro, and from the whole set of tests I can tell the Stellaris is WAY over the rest of the IEMs, followed by the Dioko. The Avantone has a huge dip after the 30Hz, and still everything the Stellaris throws at it is there. It sounds open, bright but incredibly deep and somehow warm! It is really a strange combination for sure.
Oh man, that Stellaris is ear piercing and the review bring out the superior tuning of Timeless and Dioko. Interestingly, I find the OH10 quite good sounding too. But of course if I can afford, Mest, hands down!
Fantastic Demo, amazing how the Stellaris sounds so thin compared to the more balanced sets. Oh and the Mest line is my jam. The Mest mini, Mest, and the Mest MK2s oh and the Mexts. Fanboy I guess.
it took all of 5 seconds for me to be fatigued from the high hat and ride of the stellaris. thank you for this comparison video!
Oh a moondrop miss, that's quite a new one. Rather thin on the lower end & when you put Timeless on its side, I think I would pick Timeless or S12 any day. Stellaris made Dioko bassier too, now that's quite a feat.
I really miss that intro with the song "Heart of Gold". It was epic, Dan! 😁
I loved that one
New sub!!!! Keep these iems coming!!!!!
The mest comparison was great. Really shows that having recessed upper mids/lower treble can be a noticeable benefit (depending on taste and song choice). Whereas, the Stellaris shows that if you go too much up in that area, you have a serious chance of ruining the tonal balance. Oddly, I found the bass on the Stellaris to be present... It just wasn't highlighted that well because of the stellaris's accompanying harshness.
In real life, i found the mest mk2 to be a bit too recessed in that region. I think it's because they are meant to be custom not universals. Bypassing the ear canal could alleviate the penalty of reduced ear gain in the tuning.
@@siddharthjaiman4712 I really can't agree. I found MEST MKII to be near perfect on tonal balance. EQ just a little 0.5db or something. It shines for my taste!
@@ramaidaugirdas everyone is different. If you like moondrop vdsf target you won't like the mest. If you like dunus tribrid tuning style. You'll love the mest. It all depends on your ear canal and how much it amplifies the gain region.
@@siddharthjaiman4712 Well, now I agree with you, my friend. You are right. 😁
@@ramaidaugirdas Really? Thanks for mentioning. It's a small nitpick. And the recession gives it a beautiful ambiance. I would suggest you try plugging into a dacamp with good soundstage.
I love your videos so helpful in me looking for my first iems can I make a suggestion for maybe doing a snippet of a game/film as one of the demos for people like me who’s primary focus is gaming
Hi Dan love the reviews, keep em coming. Would love to hear the new DUNU x Z Review SA6 Ultra. Very hyped IEM i would maybe consider it as an endgame set but not easy to demo it where i live.
I reeeeally want to listen to SA6 Ultra vs MEST. Can't believe people saying it is MEST level at half the price...
Fresh air when it came to the 7hrz between the Stellaris and tin 3+.
Excellent work, man! I wondered if you'd be interested in doing a comparison of some IEMs which allow tunings. Like Timeless II and Shure SE846 Pro Gen 2 (which I am interested in as well) and others like these.
Firstly - You are the best at this !
Secondly - Your test tracks are SOO GOOD ! , and i ain't even listen to this since i am a death metal fan ..
Thirdly - Damn , that Mest thing is so Powerfull , however , could be slightly shouty on that female acoustic song , but definitely very powerful and expansive sounding .
Cheers 😊 .
Love this. Thank you
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Listening with my 7hz Salnote Zero and planning to buy Kato next few months :)
Stellaris vs Dioko, great comparison.👍
Thank you.
Stellaris sounds like it is running at a lower volume (needs more power) and that affects overall impression. Perception at different volume does not change linearly.
I was thinking the same thing. If this is like any planar I've ever owned, using a balanced connection will always "balance" the bass and treble.
Very very interesting review, as many before! But this time I have a conceptual objection - what do non-planars do in the comparison!? Planar iems have different flavours - they are fast, vast, have TOTL separation, retrieve very well details BUT are still difficult to tune. And that brings in the subjectiveness of what tuning everyone of us has as a preference. OH10 is a great iem but it is absolutely different (warm, musical, vibrant), Mest is several leagues above - I love these two, adore them but what was the purpose - proving bass lack!? Stellaris sub-bass is very solid; Stellaris needs foam tips and very deep Etymotic like insertion to be low end good and more balanced. The Stellaris is not that bass shy for my ears like the demo, guess it is also a difference of the chain.
The cheaper T3+ and Dioko are compressed, boxy; the S12 is shouty and they did the S12 pro, many other planars were sacrificing too much detail for smoothness. If you prefer the Dioko - Ok but for me only Timeless is better but not in all. And I think 'your thin bass' is some mis-fit issue or the Stellaris so bright for you that bass gets thin, but that is different.
The big 'blame' is that Stellaris is bright - yes it is!! But it has great staging, great instrument separation, great detail retrieval,.... And is an iem that is great for low dB listening. It is an iem that one will appreciate very well if he does headphones.
Somehow, the implication of the review and the verdict are that Stellaris is useless. It is not, not at all! Yes, it is not everyone's beer but it does many things better than other planars (many qualities not empasized in the review) AND if one looks at it from the perspective of headphones he will value it.
I agree about v shaped sound. It's how headphones should sound I believe. But most v shaped stuff seems to suffer from fatigue in treble and mid bass can get too muddy as well. Getting the v shape tuning right is pretty complicated. Tbh the best v shaped tuning iv seen is the buds pro or the kato from moondrop.
Good morning ☕️ and listening.
All the reviews on them make mention of it, but it's crazy how much the MEST's staging and imaging capabilities stand out against the field, even just listening through a demo. The Obsidian can tend to sound immersive and spacious at times with the way its bass can "fill out" the stage on a track, and the Timeless has that open, airy quality to it, but the MEST sounds truly holographic and three-dimensional in a way nothing else does in your demos. It's uncanny how real it sounds. The comparison video with all the big boys can't come soon enough.
Not much nice to say about the Stellaris. It's somewhat detailed, but comes with all the negatives of a tuning that tries to force details on you. It's shouty, thin, sibilant, and the super in-your-face presentation kills any sense of depth or stage. It just sounds like the music is being laser beamed into my ears. The comparison with the Dioko killed any sort of praise I could have given to the Stellaris, and I'm not even particularly a fan of the Dioko either.
yeah even tho to my ears these demos are quite off and overly exaggerate stuff past the ear gain, MEST recording still manages to boast its very present but still very smooth and filled out treble
if only the Mest didn't cost as much as they do.
I was never one to listen to sound demos because until recently I thought there wasn't much I could measure since I'm using a different equipment myself. Of course it's not perfect but I have come to accept that it has it's place, as it can help a lot a person to see the difference in tuning in certain songs and this is the part I have to congratulate you:
Fantastic video comparison. Not only the quality was great but you shared your inputs with us after some comparisons.
You got a subscriber.
I'd like to ask something, what is the "best way" to listen to these comparisons? I just got my most expensive IEM and hope it helps to pick more details among the songs during the testings.
I listen to my demos on any variety of output choices. I’ve enjoyed hearing differences on my car speakers, my laptop, or my tv sound system. I don’t often listen to my demos with headphones or IEMs. I find that the tweaking headphones and IEMs make are nice for listening to music, but often exaggerate the differences present in recordings. Or maybe I just enjoy listening to speakers instead of IEMs/headphones because I have things on my ears so much that it’s nice to take a break - just listening on speakers instead.
If I had to recommend an IEM or headphone though, I would honestly just suggest trying different sets until you find one that makes the differences stand out clearly to you most.
I don’t have a specific recommendation for IEMs or headphones because, well, I haven’t tried it often.
Mate what an awesome setup and especially your method of testing.
One thing I would highly recommend.....take a course for the oscilloscope and consider making your own graphs based on your own test samples.
The main reason is that there are going to be QA differences (especially in the lower price tags) and your particular sample may differ from other testers. That way you have a direct correlation of your graph and what your audio gear is picking up.
The second reason is that the way information is read is not as simple as "this one is high, this one is low therefore it should have more bass".
Think of it more as a distribution comparison - if you have two identical results, but at 4k+ one starts to drop off early - it'll sound less bright but ALSO the bass and mids will sound more pronounced for the given Wattage of power being supplied..
The best way to think about it is - if I move the same graph line up so that the higher frequencies match, you'll all of a sudden understand why it sounds warmer.
Relative differences in the graph are certainly important. I prefer to speak in such similar terms when trying to analyze graphs now.
Hi Dan,
In my opinion, I think you should’ve compared the Stellaris more with Dioko, S12, and other Planars. I was expecting that but it’s more of Mest and your usual stuffs. But nice video by the way. Your commentaries are on point as always. Watching your videos felt refreshing compared to other reviewers just like the Timeless and Stellaris comparison. Hahaha
-your fan from the Philippines
Exactly what I was thinking too.
Yeah, I mean it’s still good to incorporate some highend or expensive IEMs in the mix but not that too much. I’m glad Dan did it because at least I have an idea how they sound because I will never buy those IEMs because of the price. Hahaha but it’s better if longer comparisons were made in a more fair battleground.
My takeaway from this is that the meat is incredible. If I had the money I'd buy it in a heartbeat, but since I don't have the money right now, I'll buy the Tinhifi T3 plus
33:00 almost definitely the relation between the lows and highs. the graphs lined up at 1k like this, stellaris has let's say +5dB over the entire range past 2k which is pretty massive for that range of frequencies that define the perception of loundess a ton. the bass measures +2dB. now if you line up the avgs of the graphs at the higher end, that would push the bass difference to -3dB for the stellaris, that is -3dB compared to an already basslight iem. also the mids will dip -5 too and that's how it sounds too, like it has no mids either
Paint your walls white and get some warm mood lighting
I am still enjoying my OH10 till this day and aiming for Xenns Up as an upgrade, one day.
P.S. I know, or rather understand, that wireless is not your thing, at least here on this channel, but would like to get your opinion on Sennheiser Momentum 4 Wireless, not on ANC but on sound quality; thinking of getting them as an upgrade to my PXC 550-II.
Hi Dan,
As a Dioko and Stellaris owner I have to say that Stellaris has the same amount of bass (OK, a bit more to my ears) as Dioko has. Ian fann’s and Super* Review’s measurements shows my statement clearly. There’s not much of a difference but you can notice it.
I think the fit and shape of the tips are the main key factors. It's a cliché but the sound heavily depends on the right choice of the eartips.
Congratulations to you for your great channel!
Interesting 🤔
Thank you for the kind words!
same actually, i own both and i find the stellaris bassier
It's really great news, Ben! I feel much better that I'm not alone with this experience. :)
@@simphoniaubec I was reflecting on this conversation and back to the graphs/listening experiences…
Maybe what I described as “bass” in my review could have been, in actuality, the mids frequencies.
I need to study now. Must….teach myself….frequencies produced by various instruments and delve further out until I feel I see a good view of the sound study landscape.
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I find myself wanting stellaris for some part of my library since i already ve fh3 and kato but feels like i need something brighter in some tracks.
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Would be curious to see the TKZK Wave get a review one of these days (price $38~$42). I seem to be going back to them, along with the S12's, most often. They are a brighter hybrid (!DD/1BA) with a large bore metal nozzle and the BA positioned in the upper nozzle...hence they are inherently bright by design. I am 55 (discerning up to 15KHz with a resonant ear canal freq around 6100Hz), so maybe I am seeking these brighter IEM's by nature. However, I have a few other IEM's...mostly good for my tastes (T3+, Olina, Lea, Heart Mirrors, KZ CRN/DQ6/ZS10Pro, CCA CRA, BL-03, and Quarks)...but the S12 and Waves are my current goto IEM's. For sure, the S12's are my favorites...the detail and its versatility are amazing.
The graph does not lie, the stellaris is too v-shaped to sound normal, the reason why you felt the dioko has more bass than the stellaris is because if you offset the extra treble you end up with a slightly warmer tilt on the dioko, like you inferred. I had to edit the comment because I read some comments, the problem with videos like these is that most listeners don't realise how bad their gear is, if your headphones sound muffled then the brighter iem are going to sound great but then when you go on to try them, they are way too bright and vice versa.
Experimented with several different eartips. I found an answer for the Moondrop Stellaris - Symbio W. At least for me it was a wow moment which took these IEMs from good to amazing.
In light of your frequency graph question I decided to try to watch your video in a different manner. using the equalizer APO app I ran the dioko / stellaris comparison 3 times. once with a low shelf to only hear the treble then with a high shelf ot only hear the bass and then with both a high and low shelf to only hear the mids. When I did this I actually felt like the low end was nearly identical and the greatest difference was in the high end.
Interesting!
My perceptions usually fall right in line with yours, Dan. Until now😂 Still, I have and know I always will appreciate all your videos. The high frequencies are rolled off in my ears so the Stellaris seems to work best for me. I also have a Qudelix and use its 64 bit double precision parametric EQ to drive he4xx, 7hz Zero and HBB’s QKZ X while I listen to this so tuning isn’t a priority with me as much as being able to drive the frequencies I need boosted without distortion. I have my two cents to offer: sometimes bass can be perceived louder than the measured frequency sweep because of added harmonic distortions
Reading my own comment I want to be clear that my perceptions are different because my ears are different, not because you are in any way wrong about what you hear. Our ears are just different :-)
Love this. I’ll take this into account on my continuing search for audio knowledge and conceptual understanding!
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wow the timeless
Yes they are really that good 👍
31:21 dioko covered the frequency range much better, though the timbre on the Stellaris seemed a touch better (from what I could hear)
I'm sure the drivers are similar, so maybe it is just tuning
At this point, i'll consider getting a Timeless on 11.11! I found that bass shelf, warm midbass is a 'need' on an iem for me. I mean, i love my Hzsound Heart Mirrors as they are the best neutral sounding iem to this day for me after many models but honestly, i still use my EQ'd Blon BL03s as daily :D I think i'm gonna love the Timeless with some EQ to correct the treble (like what i do with all the other iems i try) Thank you for your time, they are more than helpful as always.
I love heartmirror too(modded) but I'm upgrading to penon vortex... I'm waiting for them... I hate eq something
@@fioreinforma-pilates-bisceglie im not talking about simple eq and i don't like to use fixed band parametric eqs too. My way to eq is to listening sine sweeps and playing with frequency generators on my iem/headphone and finding the spots where my ears perceive the sound of the iem/headphone with any kind of uneven peaks or dips. Then i 'manually' correct these areas by my hands in equalizer apo's editor.exe gui with unlimited band graphic eq. Since every one of us has different ear canal length and shape, the resonances are very different. So the correction way i'm doing is has to be done for each people and they have to do it manually for their ears in order to get the most out of the iem/headphone because again, we need to compensate our ear's own eq (resonances) and get the smooth response. Eq profiles or pre-made eq corrections don't gonna work for most of us as intended. That is one of the biggest issue why people don't into eq, cuz simply they don't doing it the correct way. It's easily the best thing i learned on this hobby and i wanted to share because i don't think there are serious amount of people equalizing the stuff in correct way... i'd strongly recommend you to check some videos about these topics from oluv's gadgets channel, "let's talk about sound quality" video for example.
I'm definitely buying the stellaris i just LOVE how they sound and look every review tells me not to but I'm not listening
I was the same. I bought it and I don't regret it, it has a unique sound that I don't understand why they didn't appear
Wow ur working great bro , I just subscribed ur channel .. just recently I purchased moondrop aria like very much but my curiosity is for more & more good & I can go upto $250 looking for balance, warm, spacious with low end bass sounding iem plz suggest.. once again thanks for ur all hardworking nice video.. awesome 👌
The Salnotes just hurts my ears in every demo where it's presented, but I really think that IEM is so damn essential to really compare bright vs. BRIGHT.
I would love to see the Galaxy Buds2 against some of these IEMs,i heard they are good tuned from Samsung. Just to see how big is the difference between good IEMs and a popular pair of Wireless Buds.
And of course you can use EQ to get whatever tuning you like.
Hello 👋 can you review the Hyperx headset soon. By the way great job on your vids!
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#1 *Unique Melody MEST*
#2 *7Hertz Timeless*
#3 Ikko Obsidian (OH10)
#4 7Hz x Crinacle Salnotes Dioko
-Moondrop Stellaris-
-Tinhifi T3+-
Hi Dan, thanks for the review. It's help me a lots.
Can i ask all you guy that if my type of genres music is ballad -> EDM. I listen to many kinds of music so i have to make a choice between Dioko & Stellaris. Which should i choice for listening lots of genres?
on the graphs, look where the bass reads and compare that to the highest points in the treble. stellaris clearly has higher peaks in the treble wheras the dioko is basically even by comparison the dioko seems to have more bass/mids but really its more of a flat tuning. the stellaris sound brighter in comparison because its less flat, the treble is emphasized over the bass even though the bass is higher than the dioko
Listening to this on my Timeless now. 😊
Have you tried Talos? If yes how are they compared against each other?
@@Mykeoguns I have both the Talos and the Timeless. I'd say Talos has much better bass and detail clarity, the upper treble however has a pretty strong peak which can be a hit or a miss. Overall i think it's better than the Timeless but the tuning is also a lot more quirky than the relatively safe and boring Timeless, whether that's a good or bad thing depends on your taste.
@@oxaile4021 thanks for the reply 👍I think talos is going to be my take away. Gizaudio said timeless is more resolving than talos? Well, I just want to hear other people's opinion which I just did thanks once again.
@@Mykeoguns I don't think Gizaudio is really wrong with that. The Timeless does have more texture, especially in the mids, where as the Talos can sound a bit thin. However i still think the Talos has better clarity thanks to the upper treble boost. Another thing to note is that the Talos has a fairly good soundstage for a planar. While the Timeless really doesn't stage... at all. I'd recommend also taking a look at the Shuoer S12, it's tuned much like the Timeless but in my opinion improves upon some of it's weak points without tradeoffs while also costing less and being better built.
Really enjoyed this. How I wish you also reviewed standard hi-fi gear with the same audio comparisons. It's not that I'm against in-ears/headphones, but more that I can't wear them because I'm electrosensitive and having them so close is a no-no for me. Hence all my listening is on standard gear with loudspeakers.
A lot of other reviewers could learn from you, but for the most part it's exclusively talk-based stuff. I'm not quite sure apart from the difficulties of switching gear what prevents them playing stuff to listen to in direct comparisons. Maybe it's cost prohibitive, maybe they'd get dinged by RUclips, who can say.
My opinion of the gear you played? Clearly the Mest is better than the rest, but the price seems exorbitant to me (I'll bet the parts cost is only around a couple hundred at most, and even with research, labour, advertising, distribution, dealer mark-up costs and so on, there's probably a very good profit margin).
The Timeless seems a much better deal, though personally I'm not a big fan of treble emphasis and would be looking for something around the same sort of price that was a little better balanced for my taste -- but hey, it's all a matter of taste. I suppose I prefer a fairly neutral sound profile to a v-shaped curve.
Thanks a lot for those awesome reviews.
Any plans for reviewing Truthear-Hexa?
No concrete plan yet. But it’s been on my radar. It’s one of those I need to try, and then I need to decide how it fits in a video review if at all.
There are things I try now that I don’t review. There’s more and more I’m getting access to with Linsoul. But, with my life as it is, I can’t muster more than one video every couple weeks at best, and usually one month. So we’ll see when I try how it fits in with the other gear.
Finally Dan
32:43 this happens a lot to me, the ety iems have a lot more bass than the graph suggests, probably due to seal. Very often things that measure the same sound different, especially with different driver types.
Wonderful observations. Thanks for sharing!
I know I am late to the party...but does changing eartip type and filter type change anything in terms of sound signature? I am looking for a cheap planar just to experience the difference with DD IEMs...as far as DD goes I have the Sennheiser IE200 that it's serving me very well...I tried a cheapo tribird and it didn't work very well with me so I would like to try a planar to have an idea of where should I spend big money in the future. Thanks for the amazing reviews!
Stellaris was looking pretty good until the timeless showed up. And then the OH10 showed up and made it look even worse. I was looking forward to the Dioko comparison as they were both 100. Dioko in a landslide to me The stellaris is hollow in comparison. The Mid dominant frequencies (around 1K) seem completely scooped in the Stellaris because they go way too high in the 3K range.
Third! long awaited!
About dioko vs stellaris, it all comes down to if you like deep or thick
The sound stage is in the mediums. The imaging is good, vocals sound clear and crisp and some low-end bass is present. But They're HEAVY. they cause discomfort in my ears from how heavy they are and how much they sag.
Thanks for saving me money.
Hi Dan!
first of all, nice comparison with sound demo, really appreciate it...
the whole body of Stellaris not as solid as Timeless or T3+ or OH10 or Mest, so it make Stellaris sound more edgy on the high freq, and also missing some bass oomph..
so, between all of the others, Stellaris sound thinner..
probably that's because of lacking good seals on the housing design..
maybe...just an early assumption of mine..
the Dioko similar to Stellaris, but still a lil more warmer, thicker body even not much..but noticeable..
anyway, thanks for the sharing...
hey! Do you also have a comparison between timeless vs s12/s12 pro/z12?
I hope you can review the OH5!! I want it, but I need to know your opinion first because you're trustworthy!
Coming in the mail soon, I hope
My prediction is the hbb ej07m kinda lava is the best iem to review that could match your taste
Hi Dan! Super awsome review as always! May i know who is the artist of the hurt cover song?
Your Sun Nah
music.apple.com/us/album/hurt/605352380?i=605352717
@@dansaudioreviews thank you so much =)
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