I use the Toaks 900ml D115 pot with the 550ml mug/pot inside. I replaced both pot lids with the 115 fry pan for a net 0 weight change. The fry pan is a little small for any serious cooking but doubles as a lid nicely. It also allows me to store a 110g fuel canister and my Soto Windmaster all together. The entire package fits in the 900 stuff sack. Pots, pan and stuff sack weighs 7.2 ounces.
I use an 1100 plus 450. I find these pots tend to boil over, and the extra head space is handy when heating 800-900 mL of water. The 450 is plenty big enough for me for pre-dinner soup and for coffee in the AM.
This is my favorite wood-stove since several years. I bought the combo with the pot like you use it. Nesting a mug and a smaller cup inside it, and like you suggested, a small alcohol stove with it.
I have the small version of this stove. Great stove after a few simple modifications. The burn chamber's holes are simply too small. Drilling those out to as large as you feel comfortable will make this stove shine as if you do prolonged burns the stock holes get clogged pretty quickly. Another thing you can do is only use the two bottom pieces and use a raised crossbar and run the stove on wood pellets. Look at Mark Young's video in the lixada version of this stove for some fun ideas.
Hi Ernie. I enjoy the videos. Please keep them coming. Not related to the stove and pot but I have a request. As a type 2 diabetic backpacking meals are a challenge. if you could do a short video on meals, resources, etc. that would be great! Your Paleo diet is good fit and a little preamble for diabetics would be helpful! Your background would provide insight that I can't seem to find!
This is myfavorite pot set along with the larger frypan/bowl, toaks 550ml/D118mm . I use just a spirit burner with pot stand and windshield, and works perfect for me. Lots of room for storage and cooking stuff.
It is one fine pot 1100ml, except the lid is somewhat unstable if put on fire. That lid fits sort of too to that D118 550ml pot just ok. It keeps the steam inside. I am not sure and doubt if that pan will work as a lid well. Only down side is that what to boil in that small flat pot is just something like 400ml on a level surface and probably in woods just 350ml with a rolling boil to purify the water. I would not call it a bigger "frying pan" though, because it has that recess that all Toaks pots have. They can have been designed for to limit the intensity of the gas burners, or just to strengthen the bottom of the pot. I am not really convinced of any Toaks designs many times. That "bowl" as they call it is fine also besides a one persons one for like hot drinks, but also to warm something like pastry up as a double boiler. It has a good enough diameter, almost, as you said for spirit/alcohol burners. It fits also around 900ml pot. Just with 1100ml pot they could have an option to let it sit with not 550ml, but instead 650 or 700ml pot. I understand the demand is not so high. Then it could be a 2 person coffee/tea pot or one person freeze dried meal cooker. Some extra weight of course, but with 2 good pots set when carrying as both or just one single for alcohol burners etc. The 1100 ml can be thought as a 2 person pot too, its capacity to boil is something like 850 ml I think.
I got rid of the lid/pan and the handles. Made two lids, both flat: one to heat water and one to insulate after heating. The handles had to go for my homemade insulated sleeve that adds to the orange sack for keeping meals hot while they rehydrate.
I have the same kit. The burn chamber is tall. When the chamber is full, the fire is hot, but smokes a bit from limited airflow up top. As soon as the wood burns down, the heat to the pot is drastically reduced, making constant tending a necessity, unless you just want to boil a quantity of water. To cook for any length of time, you will need a bunch of properly sized pieces of wood. I like my Firebox Nano titanium stove much better, but the burn chamber is quite small, though branches can be fed into it at 90 degree angles, keeping the fire closer to the bottom of the pot. For boiling water, I'll use my bigger, heavier Kelly Kettle. That water boiler is amazing!
Enjoying your obsession with stoves over the last few month Ernie. I am looking to put together a smaller kit for motorcycle camping than my sea to summit stuff I use for car camping. I was wondering if you may be able to give me a little advice. I am considering the Toaks 1100 with pan and the Toaks 750 with BH nested inside. Where it gets tricky is I will use a wood stove most days but I am considering buying the soto windmaster from your review and many others. I am just not sure if a small canister with that stove would fit in the 750 or how I can make this a complete system. The reason I also want the 750 with BH is for lightweight backpacking trips so I am looking for the most versatile system I can put together. I know many people use the BRS little stove but with the soto windmaster it looks great for flame control for simmering and the wide base would be great for my larger sea to summit pans and pots. I don't just boil water but cook food on the road as well so not sure what to do here. Any advice you can offer me if you have time? I would appreciate it. I should clarify the wood stove is not the one you are showing, I have but a bushbuddy I carry separately.
I was concidering the toaks wood stove but then I got my packstove xl . Watched a video the Mac did where it packstove fits in the 1100 pot and i added my soto windmaster stove inside makes for a nice backpacking cook set for me
90* ya thanks for that Ernie. 🇨🇦-36 c ( -33 f) last night, but I still fired up the BBQ 🔥. Try that pot with your SVEA 123R , I use a very similar Ti pot for my SVEA.
Got the same wood stove . I find that there’s not much clearance at the bottom of the stove and ground. Some people put tent pegs to lift up the chamber. Also you mention putting an alcohol stove in it and using part of the stove as a windscreen (I assume that was what you meant). Not sure you will end up with that 1 inch 1/4 sweet spot. Maybe you can explore that aspect in one of your videos. Double lightweight option if wood is wet 😏. Thanks for another great video 😉👍
Anyone who's actually used a woodstove in the wild will tell you that the chances of getting hard, level ground is near about nil, and this thing sits too tall and will fall over with a medium breeze.. Additionally, all those holes in the stove means the wind can sweep through and blow the heat from under the pot, meaning it takes longer than it really should to boil a cup of water... The very best nested wood stoves are any which allow the pot to sit slightly below the top of the stove top, thus eliminating any chance of the wind blowing the flames from under the pot... A great example of a stove that does this is the 'Alocs 7 Piece', however, this is an alcohol stove - though, I have seen guys put twigs in it when they ran out of alcohol and it worked very well...
Can the cross stand be used as pot supports across the burn chamber? In other words, can you leave the top portion of the wood stove behind and just use the bottom with the cross stands (right side up or upside down)? Thanks.
I bought a stove on eBay that was pretty much the same stove as this one , only difference is it’s made of stainless steel and the ventilation holes are round and bigger for better ventilation and the cost was 14 bucks!
Neat idea but for compact wood stoves I have to say the Firebox Nano is pretty hard to beat. It is hands down one of my favorite stoves and I should have bought it sooner!
Thanks for another great video...I love the Pathfinder bottle bag (newer/larger), and would love to see how many ways you could maximize its space. I am still a dry bake virgin, but plan on doing a FB Nano in the front pouch, and some sort of Stanley/Billy for everything else...any help is appreciated.
I like the nested stove thing going on there… but not sure I want to swap out my Ti Firebox and Ti Pathfinder canteen combo.. but I also lug along a bush pot with my cup and spices inside, so.. kinda dumb, but very versatile I guess as the pot is usually hung over the main camp fire for soups and similar, plus the canteen is nested 3 items deep *and* still carries water.
The ti firebox is much easier to keep lit and going. This stove likes to choke itself out. You really have to stay on top of it, where I feel like the firebox stoves just chug along and are alot less stressful to keep going.
You don’t need to put the bars on top on the stove, works well either way without smoking and without your hands getting dirty. But the holes in the burning chamber are too narrow, gotta expand those for better ventilation. More clearence from the ground would have been appreciated too.
I wonder why the pot/pan handles are siliconed? My 1100ml pot is with bail handle too and both handles are without any silicon/plastic/rubber coating, so safe to put in a fire. That pan adds yes height so you can maybe fit that 750ml pot inside. Itself the pan I guess is quite useless as a frying pan. That larger Toaks twig stove looks more stable standing in what I see in your video.
The pan itself is great. The handle has a poor locking system so I use the pliers of my Victorinox when I cook. The silicone is long gone on my pots 😊Thanks! TC
@@eme71489 I had and still have before the Toaks pot the Primus Trek Kettle. It is an aluminium hard anodized pot and in all sizes it is about the same as Ernie's with the pan. Only it is nonstick and about 140g heavier. I did notice how hot the handle coatings became. The handles of it are steel. I don't think the coatings for titanium handles are needed at all. They are long after all. Then gloves if really needed :) Toaks titan pots are either not as hard as say steel. I would not use a spork to stir what is cooking. A titanium long handle spoon works well whereas the Primus pot/pan needs a wooden spatula. I think basically for boiling water with an alcohol burner, the titanium pots are better. Aluminium dissipates heat faster with such a low flame. Just for cooking food that Primus pot system wins ;)
Ernie, I’m off subject here, but am asking a request about which I have some deep concerns. You are the only gear evaluator that I know of who is truly qualified to handle this. Plus, you are one of the few who thinks analytically. My concern is clean drinking water while on the trail. Most methods do a partial job. Boiling and chemicals kill live matter like bacteria, virus, giardia, etc. Filters mechanically scrape out most bacteria, some virus, giardia, and sand. But filters do not address liquid contamination such as blood, urine, drainage from a decomposing carcass a few yards away. A water purifier, on the other hand addresses all of those, plus agricultural and industrial runoffs. You are the one who can shine light on these conditions. Would you please undertake this? I thank you for your consideration. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
My apologies for the interruption, but, for purified water, look at the First Need filters. The filter medium filters smaller than any filter that I know of, and a silver impregnated matrix kills bacteria, protozoa, and viruses. They are relatively heavy and bulky.
@@danielkutcher5704 That’s what I carry and use. There are others, but I haven’t explored them. I think that Ernie can set some very useful information out there for people. Starting with a “standardized polluted water”, processing it, and measuring “just how clean IiS that water?” The results could be very enlightening. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
I have 2 concerns with this design.....It doesn't look very stable......and will it leave a burn scar as it does not seem to have anything like a heat shield
Yes there is a better pot and that's the same 1100ml from Toaks, that in the place of the useless tiny pan, it has a proper pot lid. What's that pan for? Half an egg, half a sardene? lol
Good review, but I can tell you haven’t used that frying pan/lid which is shit. Get a 1100 pot with bail and lid much more functional. I feel the entire system is too tall for my money. Drive on with the reviews, enjoy your channel.
I use the Toaks 900ml D115 pot with the 550ml mug/pot inside. I replaced both pot lids with the 115 fry pan for a net 0 weight change. The fry pan is a little small for any serious cooking but doubles as a lid nicely. It also allows me to store a 110g fuel canister and my Soto Windmaster all together. The entire package fits in the 900 stuff sack. Pots, pan and stuff sack weighs 7.2 ounces.
I use an 1100 plus 450. I find these pots tend to boil over, and the extra head space is handy when heating 800-900 mL of water.
The 450 is plenty big enough for me for pre-dinner soup and for coffee in the AM.
I always enjoy your videos and recommendations. Thanks Ernie, you're a stand up guy
Nice surboards.
Ive used that same pot for a long time now. Just an FYI, the solo stove lite will fit in it and the trangia inside of that. Its how I pack it.
I was wondering about that. Thanks for sharing!
I like that it comes with the pot grippers / cross bar @3:45
This is my favorite wood-stove since several years. I bought the combo with the pot like you use it. Nesting a mug and a smaller cup inside it, and like you suggested, a small alcohol stove with it.
I have the small version of this stove. Great stove after a few simple modifications. The burn chamber's holes are simply too small. Drilling those out to as large as you feel comfortable will make this stove shine as if you do prolonged burns the stock holes get clogged pretty quickly. Another thing you can do is only use the two bottom pieces and use a raised crossbar and run the stove on wood pellets. Look at Mark Young's video in the lixada version of this stove for some fun ideas.
Hi Ernie. I enjoy the videos. Please keep them coming. Not related to the stove and pot but I have a request. As a type 2 diabetic backpacking meals are a challenge. if you could do a short video on meals, resources, etc. that would be great! Your Paleo diet is good fit and a little preamble for diabetics would be helpful! Your background would provide insight that I can't seem to find!
This is myfavorite pot set along with the larger frypan/bowl, toaks 550ml/D118mm . I use just a spirit burner with pot stand and windshield, and works perfect for me. Lots of room for storage and cooking stuff.
It is one fine pot 1100ml, except the lid is somewhat unstable if put on fire. That lid fits sort of too to that D118 550ml pot just ok. It keeps the steam inside. I am not sure and doubt if that pan will work as a lid well.
Only down side is that what to boil in that small flat pot is just something like 400ml on a level surface and probably in woods just 350ml with a rolling boil to purify the water.
I would not call it a bigger "frying pan" though, because it has that recess that all Toaks pots have. They can have been designed for to limit the intensity of the gas burners, or just to strengthen the bottom of the pot. I am not really convinced of any Toaks designs many times. That "bowl" as they call it is fine also besides a one persons one for like hot drinks, but also to warm something like pastry up as a double boiler.
It has a good enough diameter, almost, as you said for spirit/alcohol burners. It fits also around 900ml pot. Just with 1100ml pot they could have an option to let it sit with not 550ml, but instead 650 or 700ml pot. I understand the demand is not so high. Then it could be a 2 person coffee/tea pot or one person freeze dried meal cooker. Some extra weight of course, but with 2 good pots set when carrying as both or just one single for alcohol burners etc.
The 1100 ml can be thought as a 2 person pot too, its capacity to boil is something like 850 ml I think.
You do not disappoint. Another option!
I got rid of the lid/pan and the handles. Made two lids, both flat: one to heat water and one to insulate after heating. The handles had to go for my homemade insulated sleeve that adds to the orange sack for keeping meals hot while they rehydrate.
I have the same kit. The burn chamber is tall. When the chamber is full, the fire is hot, but smokes a bit from limited airflow up top. As soon as the wood burns down, the heat to the pot is drastically reduced, making constant tending a necessity, unless you just want to boil a quantity of water. To cook for any length of time, you will need a bunch of properly sized pieces of wood. I like my Firebox Nano titanium stove much better, but the burn chamber is quite small, though branches can be fed into it at 90 degree angles, keeping the fire closer to the bottom of the pot.
For boiling water, I'll use my bigger, heavier Kelly Kettle. That water boiler is amazing!
Add 2 or 3 charcoal briquettes, that will take care of the tending problem. Light weight and little bulk. For "cooking" can't be beat.
Enjoying your obsession with stoves over the last few month Ernie. I am looking to put together a smaller kit for motorcycle camping than my sea to summit stuff I use for car camping. I was wondering if you may be able to give me a little advice. I am considering the Toaks 1100 with pan and the Toaks 750 with BH nested inside. Where it gets tricky is I will use a wood stove most days but I am considering buying the soto windmaster from your review and many others. I am just not sure if a small canister with that stove would fit in the 750 or how I can make this a complete system. The reason I also want the 750 with BH is for lightweight backpacking trips so I am looking for the most versatile system I can put together. I know many people use the BRS little stove but with the soto windmaster it looks great for flame control for simmering and the wide base would be great for my larger sea to summit pans and pots. I don't just boil water but cook food on the road as well so not sure what to do here. Any advice you can offer me if you have time? I would appreciate it. I should clarify the wood stove is not the one you are showing, I have but a bushbuddy I carry separately.
I was concidering the toaks wood stove but then I got my packstove xl . Watched a video the Mac did where it packstove fits in the 1100 pot and i added my soto windmaster stove inside makes for a nice backpacking cook set for me
90* ya thanks for that Ernie. 🇨🇦-36 c ( -33 f) last night, but I still fired up the BBQ 🔥. Try that pot with your SVEA 123R , I use a very similar Ti pot for my SVEA.
Thanks for the review! Well done!👍
Got the same wood stove . I find that there’s not much clearance at the bottom of the stove and ground. Some people put tent pegs to lift up the chamber. Also you mention putting an alcohol stove in it and using part of the stove as a windscreen (I assume that was what you meant). Not sure you will end up with that 1 inch 1/4 sweet spot. Maybe you can explore that aspect in one of your videos. Double lightweight option if wood is wet 😏. Thanks for another great video 😉👍
Anyone who's actually used a woodstove in the wild will tell you that the chances of getting hard, level ground is near about nil, and this thing sits too tall and will fall over with a medium breeze.. Additionally, all those holes in the stove means the wind can sweep through and blow the heat from under the pot, meaning it takes longer than it really should to boil a cup of water...
The very best nested wood stoves are any which allow the pot to sit slightly below the top of the stove top, thus eliminating any chance of the wind blowing the flames from under the pot... A great example of a stove that does this is the 'Alocs 7 Piece', however, this is an alcohol stove - though, I have seen guys put twigs in it when they ran out of alcohol and it worked very well...
Can the cross stand be used as pot supports across the burn chamber? In other words, can you leave the top portion of the wood stove behind and just use the bottom with the cross stands (right side up or upside down)? Thanks.
I bought a stove on eBay that was pretty much the same stove as this one , only difference is it’s made of stainless steel and the ventilation holes are round and bigger for better ventilation and the cost was 14 bucks!
Looks great....
Neat idea but for compact wood stoves I have to say the Firebox Nano is pretty hard to beat. It is hands down one of my favorite stoves and I should have bought it sooner!
Nice
Thanks for another great video...I love the Pathfinder bottle bag (newer/larger), and would love to see how many ways you could maximize its space. I am still a dry bake virgin, but plan on doing a FB Nano in the front pouch, and some sort of Stanley/Billy for everything else...any help is appreciated.
I still prefer the meths burner of the Storm Cooker (Trangia) which I bought in the early 1970s.
I like the nested stove thing going on there… but not sure I want to swap out my Ti Firebox and Ti Pathfinder canteen combo.. but I also lug along a bush pot with my cup and spices inside, so.. kinda dumb, but very versatile I guess as the pot is usually hung over the main camp fire for soups and similar, plus the canteen is nested 3 items deep *and* still carries water.
The ti firebox is much easier to keep lit and going. This stove likes to choke itself out. You really have to stay on top of it, where I feel like the firebox stoves just chug along and are alot less stressful to keep going.
You don’t need to put the bars on top on the stove, works well either way without smoking and without your hands getting dirty. But the holes in the burning chamber are too narrow, gotta expand those for better ventilation. More clearence from the ground would have been appreciated too.
How do you prevent pot blackening from wood fires?
How about using the Toaks 1600mL pot w/ the large Toaks Wood Burner?
If you had to choose 1 stove, no matter if it is gas or wood burning, what would you go with?
Mmmm like the vid but think just the fire box Stove type does it for me other than a carry with you fuel stove ie tranga or alcohol Stove
I wonder why the pot/pan handles are siliconed? My 1100ml pot is with bail handle too and both handles are without any silicon/plastic/rubber coating, so safe to put in a fire.
That pan adds yes height so you can maybe fit that 750ml pot inside. Itself the pan I guess is quite useless as a frying pan.
That larger Toaks twig stove looks more stable standing in what I see in your video.
They probably assume people opting for the bail are hanging over an open fire.
The pan itself is great. The handle has a poor locking system so I use the pliers of my Victorinox when I cook. The silicone is long gone on my pots 😊Thanks! TC
@@eme71489 I had and still have before the Toaks pot the Primus Trek Kettle. It is an aluminium hard anodized pot and in all sizes it is about the same as Ernie's with the pan. Only it is nonstick and about 140g heavier. I did notice how hot the handle coatings became. The handles of it are steel. I don't think the coatings for titanium handles are needed at all. They are long after all. Then gloves if really needed :)
Toaks titan pots are either not as hard as say steel. I would not use a spork to stir what is cooking. A titanium long handle spoon works well whereas the Primus pot/pan needs a wooden spatula.
I think basically for boiling water with an alcohol burner, the titanium pots are better. Aluminium dissipates heat faster with such a low flame. Just for cooking food that Primus pot system wins ;)
Ernie, I’m off subject here, but am asking a request about which I have some deep concerns. You are the only gear evaluator that I know of who is truly qualified to handle this. Plus, you are one of the few who thinks analytically.
My concern is clean drinking water while on the trail. Most methods do a partial job. Boiling and chemicals kill live matter like bacteria, virus, giardia, etc. Filters mechanically scrape out most bacteria, some virus, giardia, and sand. But filters do not address liquid contamination such as blood, urine, drainage from a decomposing carcass a few yards away. A water purifier, on the other hand addresses all of those, plus agricultural and industrial runoffs.
You are the one who can shine light on these conditions. Would you please undertake this? I thank you for your consideration.
Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
My apologies for the interruption, but, for purified water, look at the First Need filters. The filter medium filters smaller than any filter that I know of, and a silver impregnated matrix kills bacteria, protozoa, and viruses. They are relatively heavy and bulky.
@@danielkutcher5704
That’s what I carry and use. There are others, but I haven’t explored them.
I think that Ernie can set some very useful information out there for people. Starting with a “standardized polluted water”, processing it, and measuring “just how clean IiS that water?” The results could be very enlightening.
Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
I have 2 concerns with this design.....It doesn't look very stable......and will it leave a burn scar as it does not seem to have anything like a heat shield
I made a scorch guard from a disposable oven liner sheet.
Yes there is a better pot and that's the same 1100ml from Toaks, that in the place of the useless tiny pan, it has a proper pot lid. What's that pan for? Half an egg, half a sardene? lol
Got the pot. Not the stove....yet.
I can't find ;
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Mark es the gyver
Mac Gyver backpacking
McGyver backpacking
Or any other alliteration.
Please help. Thank you
Try this link: ruclips.net/user/SpiguyverBackpacking1
@@Colorado_Kkid Thank you
Good review, but I can tell you haven’t used that frying pan/lid which is shit. Get a 1100 pot with bail and lid much more functional. I feel the entire system is too tall for my money. Drive on with the reviews, enjoy your channel.
Greatly appreciate saying “Made in China” not interested in purchasing.
Problem with a wood stove inside your cooking vessel is the taste. Everything smells and tastes like a meat smoker and ash gets everywhere.
It's crap.
I like your justification.