Fantastic review! Bro, it's the most impressive video on entry level bike trainers on RUclips. As a amateur, over 700 watts is such a high standard to achieve, T100 seems the great choice for me! And it's compact and silent, I like it very much!
This is a good trainer for someone with a heart rate monitor/power meter. I just bought a wheel on trainer no zwift just riding to a structured workout plan. I upgraded do to noise and I went with a smart option so I can try zwift.
Nice review , one concern , the adapters for 148 mm boost thru axle adapters comes right out of the box ? Or is necessary to buy it separately? Thks you
This might be a good race day warm up device. Battery powered! So, if I'm doing a workout like TrainerRoad or similar, would I just need to change gears and match the cadence to get the desired output power? Thanks for the review. I just found your channel. :)
Yes I'll for sure use that to races for warmup instead of rollers, just with there were an handle. Yup the resistance is constant, so you just need to change your gears to output the power require. As shown in the video, the cadence sensor is just approximate. Glad you found it!!
Thank you for the video, its good to see a real review of something like this I am currently searching for a new trainer since my cheap magnetic one broke and then I purchased a newer one only to realise that it did not fit my wheels since I am 5ft lady! Can't get any bigger wheels or I'll never be able to get on, so was looking at direct drive since it doesn't matter about wheel size/frame (I hope). I liked seeing your girlfriend appear and give her opinion too, was helpful, thank you (: might be my next purchase! Is there anything else to know? Another review mentioned cassete doesn't come with it? (I don't know what kind I would have to buy and whether it matters)
My pleasure! Glad you liked the review. You are right is doesn't come with a casette, you could go with the trainer to your local bike shop and they could sell you one and mount it!
Great honest review! Im currently just inches away from checking out on this trainer. However do you have issues related to flywheel overheating? Or disconnected power meter during a ride? Since this will make up my mind and i appreciate your share toughts
Hi. I want to buy this. Im not gona use zwift. But i want to use this for having a sweat when weather is not permitted to cycle. So can you still recommend this for just having a workout when times I can't cycle outside?
I agree with you that direct drive trainers are the best but it's all a matter of how much you can afford to spend on a trainer. It's also true that wheel-on trainers are very loud or noisy and sometimes unstable (depending on the model and brand) - I own and use a Wahoo Kickr Snap, but I will always take such a trainer over this Magene T100 especially because of parameters like max. power, cadence, resistance and road feel.
Still the kickr snap is an extra 100$ and pretty much out of stock everywhere ahah! I'd 100% go for the direct drive here. I hated my wheel-on taxc vortex
@@CharlesOuimet yaa..if you are faced with a condition, night work for 1 season (such as winter), and if you cycle during the day or evening there is too much traffic. I think it's a pretty good investment
@@CharlesOuimet In my BEST form (2019) I could probably hold your wheel....just. But now, hahaha. 2 mins and I'm out the back door. Still, it's not about the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog. 😉 Bring it.
nice video, in resume, this semi-smart trainer is like a big power meter, but only can do 700w jajaja, thanks for the video. have a nice day, hi from Panama.
Did you have any issues with your derailleur running into the trainer case? My long cage 105 RD hits the case where the v-belt lives and won't let me go into the largest rear cog
Hi. Great video. I just purchased the Magene t100. I'm riding a 8 speed Specialized cassette. I installed an 11 speed cassette on the trainer. it keeps skipping and my connection to the app is sketchy. Any thoughts. Thank you
6:03 why should cadence be a useless metric? My coach lets me do lots of strenght work on the bike also and it improved my power at low rpm when Im climbing steep mountain passes.
Cadence work can be usefull, but having the exact metric I don't think so. You either grind, normal, or spin. No need of having the exact number because we all have different twitch muscles. Some people can't spin more than 110 while I can do 180. If a structure workeout say to do 120, it would not be representative for each person muscle ability. Thus, you either grind, normal or spin, that's my though on it.
Bonjour Charles, j'ai un Kinetic rock & roll et je veux le changer pour un a entrainement direct car celui que j'ai presentement est encombrant et je n'aime pas le fait du rouleau sur le pneu. Me suggeres-tu le T100 ? Merci encore :)
Salut! Moyens pour le T100 à cause de son max power de 700w. Si jamais tu veux courser sur zwift, c'est impossible de faire le finish :( Mais sinon c'est super pour le budget. Ma copine utilise tout le temps
Hi Charles. I currently use tacx vortex wheel on for 40 minutes a day for exercise. I slightly increase slope to make it feel like uphill for a better sweat. I don't use zwift. I was looking at tacx flux to get a better ride. Should i consider this instead. Thanks! Will my tacx app still tell me speed and distance with this?
Hey! This is better than vortex, but at that point, youre maybe better go straight to the Flux, I love my flux! I'd recommend this trainer for anyone who is looking at a first trainer
@@CharlesOuimet Thank you for the quick reply. There are so many details to consider. I do like having the option for the trainer to automatically adjust, so probably makes more sense to go for the flux. Aside from higher watts, any other details to consider in this decision? Thanks again for your help!
@@CharlesOuimet thank you for the answer. Also i would ike to get your opinion on hyper x and lun wheels? Which is better overall with best value as being a priority?
@@miguelesteban8775 LUN if it's your first carbon wheels, hyper if you are looking for the best performance! The carbon spokes are amazing. Watch my videos on them
Bro how can you say cadence is useless metric cadence soo important for cheap trainig thats how they train they in kerala even cad sensor value soo expensive we use gears and we can calculate powrd
@@CharlesOuimet Hope so. Not too sure about riding indoors but with a pretty high probability of new lockdowns in France in 2021, I'd be happy to have one :) . Also cool for short and efficient sessions during lunch breaks ;) . We'll see !
@@CharlesOuimet ERG and cadence are super important to structured training apps like Trainerroad and Sufferfest, and even Zwift training plans. This thing doesn’t even have a power meter it only calculates power through a speed sensor with a resistance curve which is why its accuracy sucks. I hate to say it, but did you watch Gplama’s review before? He tore it apart.
I don't see the point of this trainer. I'd always go for a pedal power meter and dumb trainer with a higher max power for less cost. Sure it has the drawbacks of a wheel on trainer (noise, and needing a separate tire), but you get a power meter that can go with you anywhere.
It’s actually not smart at all. No adjustable resistance. And there’s no power meter per se, it’s just a speed sensor with a resistance curve applied to it, and that’s why it’s not super precise.
I do think cadence is an useless metric as long as the average is anywhere between 80-100, ideally 90 as lot's of research shows. But some people might be more grinder, some more spinner depending if they have slow or fast twitch muscles. We're all different on that point, so following workout all the time with a specific cadence all the time, I personally find it useless.
I did not do power accuracy testing in this video, because it's not important for those who will buy this trainer, they are beginners and probably don,t have the notion of power accuracy. It's rated at +-3% and I've seen it's somewhat around that. Even if it was +-10%, it's totally fine for beginners. For the T300, GP Lama found it was somewhat under-reporting all the time, but China Cycling video show some accurate data. I'll have to test that one ;)
@@CharlesOuimet It's true that testing a company's claim about the 3% accuracy for smart trainer should be pretty important. For example, I would love to buy that type of trainer for my GF, and maybe for a backup smart trainer if mine were to break. Especially now, if you have a pair of favero assioma, doing the comparison would take like 10m.
@@lereveure I agree David. If a company makes an accuracy claim, it has to be tested and verified to be true and correct. Anything less here in Australia results in massive fines by our consumer protection body. RE: The T300. My test protocol covered from 0W to ~1200W with steady state efforts from 200W, 250W, and 300W for extended periods. I'm more than happy to see people repeat my testing. Only then can my data be compared to other tests.
@@CharlesOuimet it's not only about accuracy because in the end of the day all power meters will read the power a little bit different. It's more about the trainer being consistent that if it shows you 200w one day and 200w the next they are the same power and not 20 watts apart.
Maybe you should go back to wheel on trainers just for how noisy they are. I wonder what your neighbors think when they hear you going for a win. Well you do have a cute girlfriend so I guess they think other things are going on Lol.😉
@@CharlesOuimet Haha nice to see you have a sense of humor. In all seriousness I really enjoyed your review and felt it was well done and honest. Keep the great content coming.
This is not sponsored content, Magene partnered up for a video by providing the product for an indepth review, and I've tested indepth and shown all the plus and negatives to help you guys with the decision to go with this budget or not.
If the discount is NOT working, you need to create/register an account and login BEFORE checking out. It should work after to get you $40 OFF :)
Fantastic review! Bro, it's the most impressive video on entry level bike trainers on RUclips. As a amateur, over 700 watts is such a high standard to achieve, T100 seems the great choice for me! And it's compact and silent, I like it very much!
Glad you liked it!! thanks man
Bought the T100 after your reciew, love it, thanks Charles!
Cool man!!
I'm using it, really satisfied with it.
Awesome!
¿Cual es la aplicación que usa ?
This is a good trainer for someone with a heart rate monitor/power meter. I just bought a wheel on trainer no zwift just riding to a structured workout plan. I upgraded do to noise and I went with a smart option so I can try zwift.
Yes exactly!!
Great detail review 👍🏻
Thanks man!!
Nice review , one concern , the adapters for 148 mm boost thru axle adapters comes right out of the box ? Or is necessary to buy it separately? Thks you
Hummm good question! Maybe send them a question email. It was in my shipment because I requested it, but don't know if it comes by default
did you find out?
This might be a good race day warm up device. Battery powered! So, if I'm doing a workout like TrainerRoad or similar, would I just need to change gears and match the cadence to get the desired output power? Thanks for the review. I just found your channel. :)
Yes I'll for sure use that to races for warmup instead of rollers, just with there were an handle.
Yup the resistance is constant, so you just need to change your gears to output the power require. As shown in the video, the cadence sensor is just approximate. Glad you found it!!
Thank you for the video, its good to see a real review of something like this
I am currently searching for a new trainer since my cheap magnetic one broke and then I purchased a newer one only to realise that it did not fit my wheels since I am 5ft lady! Can't get any bigger wheels or I'll never be able to get on, so was looking at direct drive since it doesn't matter about wheel size/frame (I hope).
I liked seeing your girlfriend appear and give her opinion too, was helpful, thank you (: might be my next purchase!
Is there anything else to know? Another review mentioned cassete doesn't come with it? (I don't know what kind I would have to buy and whether it matters)
My pleasure! Glad you liked the review. You are right is doesn't come with a casette, you could go with the trainer to your local bike shop and they could sell you one and mount it!
Great honest review! Im currently just inches away from checking out on this trainer. However do you have issues related to flywheel overheating? Or disconnected power meter during a ride?
Since this will make up my mind and i appreciate your share toughts
Hey Jason! Didn't had any power drop or overheating from my testing. My GF has been on it for the last weeks with no issue!
Hi. I want to buy this. Im not gona use zwift. But i want to use this for having a sweat when weather is not permitted to cycle. So can you still recommend this for just having a workout when times I can't cycle outside?
yeah that a good option!!
I agree with you that direct drive trainers are the best but it's all a matter of how much you can afford to spend on a trainer. It's also true that wheel-on trainers are very loud or noisy and sometimes unstable (depending on the model and brand) - I own and use a Wahoo Kickr Snap, but I will always take such a trainer over this Magene T100 especially because of parameters like max. power, cadence, resistance and road feel.
Still the kickr snap is an extra 100$ and pretty much out of stock everywhere ahah! I'd 100% go for the direct drive here. I hated my wheel-on taxc vortex
hello charles, i've watched your video 3 times .. is this trainer suitable for endurance training? thank you
Absolutely! I'd say it's best for endurance and not sprints
@@CharlesOuimet yaa..if you are faced with a condition, night work for 1 season (such as winter), and if you cycle during the day or evening there is too much traffic. I think it's a pretty good investment
Charles! Would be awesome if you make a review of the t300 model!
Thnx!
Yeah later down the road I will! So far it's great, but I think it's too expensive outside of China
I heard Charles and Joe were going to race up Alp D'Zwift on their Magene trainers, is it true? 🤣🤣🤣
Aren't you Joe?
Ahahah that would be hilarious to see how I can DESTROY you 🤣😜 JK
@@aim-at-me ;) I've achieved pompus RUclips status and started referring to myself in the third person.
@@CharlesOuimet In my BEST form (2019) I could probably hold your wheel....just. But now, hahaha. 2 mins and I'm out the back door. Still, it's not about the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog. 😉 Bring it.
@@ChinaCycling Wow wise words from a wise man right here
Great 👍🏾 review bro.
Thank you man! 🎉
A wireless unit about bloody time in this day and age. Very cool
Ahah yes!!
Appreciate the video 👍👍
nice video, in resume, this semi-smart trainer is like a big power meter, but only can do 700w jajaja, thanks for the video. have a nice day, hi from Panama.
thanks for watching!
Hi ! Any long term reviews on this? Whats the longevity like? Any issues?
Still works fine!
Thanks for the review. Was the $399 price in CDN dollars?
Usd!
Can i use this device without playing any "game"? Just training!
Hi, im plannig on buying one. Did you have any issues with th t100?
So far so good! No issues 2 years later
Literally best buy. Since 2 years in use. What is the language of the review? HUNGARIAN?
Said T100 doesn't have speed sensor, is it?
But i see in your zwitft, your speed is indicated.
Can it connect with garmin edge130 instead computer?
It sends power data to zwift and then zwift calculate speed
Hey Charles. How's the trainer holding up these days. I may purchase one soon
Fine! My girlfriend used it all the time. Works great!
Did you have any issues with your derailleur running into the trainer case? My long cage 105 RD hits the case where the v-belt lives and won't let me go into the largest rear cog
Thats weird! No I havent got that issue
@@CharlesOuimet Thanks for the reply; I agree it's strange!
Good review
Thank you!
Hi. Great video. I just purchased the Magene t100. I'm riding a 8 speed Specialized cassette. I installed an 11 speed cassette on the trainer. it keeps skipping and my connection to the app is sketchy. Any thoughts. Thank you
well is your bike 8 or 11 speed? This is not cross compatible!
6:03 why should cadence be a useless metric? My coach lets me do lots of strenght work on the bike also and it improved my power at low rpm when Im climbing steep mountain passes.
Cadence work can be usefull, but having the exact metric I don't think so. You either grind, normal, or spin. No need of having the exact number because we all have different twitch muscles. Some people can't spin more than 110 while I can do 180. If a structure workeout say to do 120, it would not be representative for each person muscle ability.
Thus, you either grind, normal or spin, that's my though on it.
I don't mind the Max power, at least not right know. I would buy it if it could do automatic resistance
Yeah fair enough!
Hi Charles. Hope all is well with you and your girl. I got the trainer but having connections issues. Any thoughts???
Weird? We never had any issue with her trainer
@@CharlesOuimet Hi again. Update. Downloaded Zwift, no connection problems. Onelap not so good. Thanks
The Gravat 2 or the T300 from magene can be found for around 600USD.
I bought my Gravat 2 for $300 plus shipping lol. Try harder.
How and where? It's more available outside of Asia at that price..
Bonjour Charles, j'ai un Kinetic rock & roll et je veux le changer pour un a entrainement direct car celui que j'ai presentement est encombrant et je n'aime pas le fait du rouleau sur le pneu. Me suggeres-tu le T100 ? Merci encore :)
Salut! Moyens pour le T100 à cause de son max power de 700w. Si jamais tu veux courser sur zwift, c'est impossible de faire le finish :(
Mais sinon c'est super pour le budget. Ma copine utilise tout le temps
Can i fit 12speeed shimano cogs?
Hi Charles. I currently use tacx vortex wheel on for 40 minutes a day for exercise. I slightly increase slope to make it feel like uphill for a better sweat. I don't use zwift. I was looking at tacx flux to get a better ride. Should i consider this instead. Thanks! Will my tacx app still tell me speed and distance with this?
Hey! This is better than vortex, but at that point, youre maybe better go straight to the Flux, I love my flux!
I'd recommend this trainer for anyone who is looking at a first trainer
@@CharlesOuimet Thank you for the quick reply. There are so many details to consider. I do like having the option for the trainer to automatically adjust, so probably makes more sense to go for the flux. Aside from higher watts, any other details to consider in this decision? Thanks again for your help!
@@CharlesOuimet Ever see any deals on the flux s? All I've seen is $749.
@@glassr11 not really!
@@glassr11 I dont think so! I've said it all into this vid!
Can you stick a wahoo speed sensor on the flywheel? This is for me.
Hum I don't think so ahah!
Which PM did you use in the race? Built in t100 Pm or external Pm?
built in PM, reads a bit high!
@@CharlesOuimet thank you for the answer. Also i would ike to get your opinion on hyper x and lun wheels? Which is better overall with best value as being a priority?
@@miguelesteban8775 LUN if it's your first carbon wheels, hyper if you are looking for the best performance! The carbon spokes are amazing. Watch my videos on them
Is the price in US or CAD? Merci Charles pour le review!
US - Ur welcome!
L'accent québécois haha chu cramper!! Bonne vidéo review complet et intéressant!!
merci!
Bro can i use this trainer and use my crank based power meter with swift?
Absolutely! But you'll still be limited to 700-800-ish watts sprints due to the lack of resistance
bolts installed upside down. rear leg/foot seems to be installed otherway around
Figured out the bolts were upside down, but doen't change anything in the end... rear leg doesn't have a direction... or maybe? lol it still works
@@CharlesOuimet bike is off center so need longer legs on drive side just like the front leg/foot
@@bet609 thanks! I'll check it out
Bro how can you say cadence is useless metric cadence soo important for cheap trainig thats how they train they in kerala even cad sensor value soo expensive we use gears and we can calculate powrd
Having an exact cadence metric is not the most important one, not the cadence itself. You spin, you grind, or you go 90rpm
@@CharlesOuimet 100+ is my comfort cadence 😎crisfroome
Gab get a compliment:
Gab-...LEAVE A THUMBS UP! Peace!
AHAHAAH
Is it good for Ironman Training?
if you don't sprint. It's good enough!
is this compatible to a thru axle ?
yes they have an adapter
Ah? It requires to buy separate?
And theres no checkout or buy button on the website 😅
one order with your code mate ;) . Keep it up
Cool man! I'm sure you'll enjoy it
@@CharlesOuimet Hope so. Not too sure about riding indoors but with a pretty high probability of new lockdowns in France in 2021, I'd be happy to have one :) . Also cool for short and efficient sessions during lunch breaks ;) . We'll see !
Nice, I just need a cheap option like this that won't wake up the whole neighborhood.
ahah yes it's a good one!
So no ERG mode? Not very smart.
Cadence is an important metric for Sufferfest training.
Thus the semi-smart term. At less than $400 for a direct drive, I'm all ok to ditch the ERG more that I've never use anyway...
@@CharlesOuimet ERG and cadence are super important to structured training apps like Trainerroad and Sufferfest, and even Zwift training plans. This thing doesn’t even have a power meter it only calculates power through a speed sensor with a resistance curve which is why its accuracy sucks. I hate to say it, but did you watch Gplama’s review before? He tore it apart.
I don't see the point of this trainer. I'd always go for a pedal power meter and dumb trainer with a higher max power for less cost. Sure it has the drawbacks of a wheel on trainer (noise, and needing a separate tire), but you get a power meter that can go with you anywhere.
No perfect products exist! This one is great for some cyclists, not others
So you need to change the title to include 'semi'
and then i watch on and hear it is semi smart. man they take with one hand and give away with the other
Yeah that's the issue of being wireless ahah
It’s actually not smart at all. No adjustable resistance. And there’s no power meter per se, it’s just a speed sensor with a resistance curve applied to it, and that’s why it’s not super precise.
@@leflate semi smart is like when you got a TV and found out it was HD steady and not actually an HD TV #gutted lol
@@EddieRyce i know, what’s weird is all other reviews actually describe this as non-smart
did I hear girlfriends??😂
Trainers don’t have power output, they have resistance.
thx!
It looks like a kickr core..
Similar!
Is this dude kidding about cadence being useless?
If you heard right, he said it because the cadence it showed wasn't right, so it was pretty useless to check it
@@emilebrunelle7010 I was listening incorrect due to being in a sleepy haze. my apologies
No worries ahah
I do think cadence is an useless metric as long as the average is anywhere between 80-100, ideally 90 as lot's of research shows.
But some people might be more grinder, some more spinner depending if they have slow or fast twitch muscles. We're all different on that point, so following workout all the time with a specific cadence all the time, I personally find it useless.
If the accuracy is anything like their t300 it's not worth it tbh
I did not do power accuracy testing in this video, because it's not important for those who will buy this trainer, they are beginners and probably don,t have the notion of power accuracy. It's rated at +-3% and I've seen it's somewhat around that. Even if it was +-10%, it's totally fine for beginners. For the T300, GP Lama found it was somewhat under-reporting all the time, but China Cycling video show some accurate data. I'll have to test that one ;)
@@CharlesOuimet It's true that testing a company's claim about the 3% accuracy for smart trainer should be pretty important. For example, I would love to buy that type of trainer for my GF, and maybe for a backup smart trainer if mine were to break. Especially now, if you have a pair of favero assioma, doing the comparison would take like 10m.
@@lereveure I agree David. If a company makes an accuracy claim, it has to be tested and verified to be true and correct. Anything less here in Australia results in massive fines by our consumer protection body. RE: The T300. My test protocol covered from 0W to ~1200W with steady state efforts from 200W, 250W, and 300W for extended periods. I'm more than happy to see people repeat my testing. Only then can my data be compared to other tests.
@@CharlesOuimet it's not only about accuracy because in the end of the day all power meters will read the power a little bit different. It's more about the trainer being consistent that if it shows you 200w one day and 200w the next they are the same power and not 20 watts apart.
I can’t believe how much more money you guys are charged for Magene products overseas. Maybe you guys are just used to overpaying lol.
Ahah yeah they are super inexpensive in china... Not sure why this big markup.
Maybe you should go back to wheel on trainers just for how noisy they are. I wonder what your neighbors think when they hear you going for a win. Well you do have a cute girlfriend so I guess they think other things are going on Lol.😉
AHAHAHAHA wow. Good one.
@@CharlesOuimet Haha nice to see you have a sense of humor. In all seriousness I really enjoyed your review and felt it was well done and honest. Keep the great content coming.
this isnt a smart trainer is it?
semi-smart
Je suis sûr tu es québécois aahahah
ahah yessir
"They have no control over what I'm saying" - of course they have, since this IS sponsored content 😉
This is not sponsored content, Magene partnered up for a video by providing the product for an indepth review, and I've tested indepth and shown all the plus and negatives to help you guys with the decision to go with this budget or not.
@@CharlesOuimet my bad...so in terms of a partnership agreement, you'd still have to hold your end 😉
@@samom8062 not at all. I could have shit on the product if it was. I'm not obligated to represent in any positive manners, I'm being true as always 😁
@@CharlesOuimet I appreciate your honesty and content, I just dislike the disclaimers 😉
@@samom8062 then how you like have preferred? I'm all ears 😁
Crap don't buy
i think it's great for a budget trainer! Also easy and light to bring to races for a proper warm up
Patetic comment about girlfriend...
What's wrong lol? This is the perfect trainer for her