NEW TRUE DAMAGE CHANGES - League of Legends
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- NEW TRUE DAMAGE CHANGES - League of Legends. Riot just randomly buffed true damage, making all damage amp effects also increase the damage of true damage too now!
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That's a really interesting change, how do you think will benefit the most from this? 😺
is this live in s1.2 patch or is in pbe only?
I don’t like it. As a tank main I already get blown up by everything and this makes it worse again…
can you link the sources in the vid description
vel'koz is going to be so op ult + liandry's torment
what season are you playing in, you MUST be lying. Tanks rn can deal so much damage and take none even against champs they shoud be weak against.@@sparkyanimations213
So...not the band true damage...but the damage type...
I had the same thought 😢
SAME😢😢😢😢😢
me too (not the movement)
I was so excited for a new song until my brain actually worked through that not making sense lol
I got clickbaited so dam hard, he knows this too judging by the thumbnail
Riot doesn't know how to nerf tanks so instead just increase true damage haha
I mean they‘ve been buffing tanks and nerfing max hp damage focused characters like gwen, fiora, vayne, etc for two years now
It's good@soupsnorter6990
Such cope. In high elo literally nobody plays tanks
@@moogiwatta what are you smoking?
@@lusigia take a look at lolaytics emerald+ tierlist and tell me how tanks are op. Tanks have such low play rate. Doesn’t really make sense now does it. I’ve played 100+ games this season in master/gm elo and tanks are the least problematic class.
Finally, my ap garen will be able to use Axiom Arcanist!!!
phase rush
Axiom arcanist already increased garen ult
what he said
Shadowflame Garen/Pyke OP!!!
garen actually uses Axiom Arcanist (((:
so....its a velkoz buff,buy horizon,liandrys and deal more dmg with pasive
they already increased true damage
Doesn't change for vel koz axiom already incresed his ult true damage.
@@kauanjos3199 no one was talking about axiom arcanist. we were talking about his passive in general and interactions with items like horizon that also increase damage in genera.
@@piece-kun4168 nah horizon already increased it theres a reason why smolder gets spear of shojin
@@kauanjos3199 but his passive that does true damage
i'm wondering how well would this work on Sett W
Maybe shojin 🤷
True damage?
@@2amce355No. Shojin is garbage on him. The lowest cd he has is 5 seconds on q. He can’t weave spells to get any use of it, e and w are both 10-15 second cooldowns most of the time.
The biggest change here is last stand and all of the other runes at the bottom row of the precision tree
@@nimrodszocs2795 late game sett has more or less 7-8 cooldown of W, with the strongest build you can use on him
@@nimrodszocs2795 Atleast his Q applies Shojin twice. 2 Q autos and an E gives 3 out of the 4 stacks.
I clicked the video expecting the true damage band to comeback
Camille+press the attack+spear of shojin=1.5k true dmg
Does this mean Gwen Q can one shot faster?
it sounds like so, maybe pta will be an option too
now we are talking lets go, she will able to heal now more with her q
She Will be in every Game lmao
True damage is really stupid especially how they executed it in game
Having no counter play whatsoever and basically telling you to end yourself before they end you
It would be fine if the true dmg had fixed dmg, that way building health would be a direcct counter. But most of true dmg is based on health % leaving only one counter, kill them before they killl you
Tanks are disgusting and need counters
True damage was once given to champions like Vel'Koz.
And then it was balanced, because it has a rather complex activation condition with fixed damage.
@@ИльяВейнаров vel'koz still has true damage and it still does a shit ton of damage if you land all 3 abilities on someone
@@ИльяВейнаров Yeah but Vel'Koz's true damage is beyond busted. The range, slows, cc and how spammy the abilities including being able to move during them & all are with not that much mana cost is insane. If you land 1 or 2 combos you can insta kill anyone really. Only good thing is Vel is incredibly squishy but the range makes it so hard to get to them
Ah, so Riot IS really trying to shoo all the players away. Good to know.
you guys have no idea wtf you want, 1 second you are complaining about tanky being way over powered, with no counter play, then now you complain about them buffing the number one counter to tank, yall just like to complain for the fun of it
whaaa, they are nerfing wholesome tankss????
@@douglaswalker7707 Idc about tanks, Vayne and Darius are stupid champs
@ vayne isnt even that strong right now, and darius is shit in any elo gold and below
@douglaswalker7707 Yes but every time I am not the one laning against them my troglodyte teammates feed the shit out of them and they have no counterplay when fed
Oki now the question is.. if they want to make true damage more consistent.. does it mean they are going to fix some ability that give damage resistance apply to true damage when they obviously shouldnt ? Or did they, like with everything, forgot about it
oh do you mean the %damage reduction compared to defences? there's nothing bugged there, damage reduction reduces your total incoming damage. it's not bugged it's intended, unless there's something i don't know of.
Anathema's chains were an exception since they would have decreased by 25% the true damage recived.
@saveborg1091 Damage reduction abilities don't reduce True damage though
Yep i dont what these guys are talking about except i think the flat damage reduction for bone plating and the 1k gold armor item nothin else reduces true damage. @Wavinto
@@Wavinto Here is the thing, I don't know if they fixed it but some characters had their damage reduction abilities reducting true damage, vandril made a video about it a long time ago (if I remember correctly, if not it was another youtuber) while other were not reducing true damage
From the title, I thought there were going to be more skins for True Damage skinline. Got my hopes up for a sec there.
So ok, you take an already uncounterable type of damage that is incredibly hard to manage...and makes it even stronger...why?
Why Garen needs another buf seriously?
speaks volume when you say garen is a problem xD, you are either a tank player or iron 5
@@Mcrays1337 Garen is currently strong in high elo too dipshit ?
@@Mcrays1337 i can see you ve never played vs a good phase rush garen
@@Mcrays1337 Ya know garen was a problem in pro play as well when it was garen&yuumi bot meta.
I think their goal was to give more reasons to play counter to the tanks that are dominating the current meta. It's a stupid choice because they have in parallel buffed the tanks that have true damage, but probably this was their idea.
Welcome back, %damage increase AP Garen.
Nobody missed you.
Last stand (up to 11%), axiom (14%), pta (for extremely gifted people, 8%) | liandrys (6%), riftmaker (10%), bloodsong (10%), haunting guise (6%), collector (5%mHP execute). This build is absolutely unbeatable, literally exodia, and has no flaws.
Add Shadowflame and IE to this
@@yayantar shadowflame is pointless, you're only getting a bigger number when the enemy is already dead regardless. It won't activate if you bring the enemy below the number with a fat R. It only activates if the enemy is already below that amount of HP.
Wait a minute, you want to say, formerly, some amplifiers, such as Coup de grace, Cut down, Last stand, etc., which literally say _“deal №% increased damage”_ without any clarification, did not increase all of your damage?.. And, according to the third paragraph of the Spideraxe's post and some comments below this video, same with damage reduction effects, such as Exhaust, which literally just says _“reduces their damage dealt by 35%”?.._ And I'm supposed to discover, which effect actually does what it says (e. g. Spear of Shojin, Haunting guise) and which has unnoted exceptions, anywhere but outside the game itself? (like just now I rechecked about true damage at «LoL Wiki»)? Really, Riot?
I dont think that's a good idea since, when you take a look at it, most true damage in the game is already at unhealthy amount like Darius, Camille, Cho'Gath dealing 1k+ true damahe is already absurd and Fiora and Vayne dealing %hp true damage kinda lacks counterplay.
skill issue
thanks rito-rds.
Even if it was physical or magic Dmg it would still kill you as it would be tuned be reliable true Dmg doesn’t matter it only allows champs to build somewhat tanky and still do Dmg. Which most champs can do anyways with or without true Dmg
They might just nerf specific champs with true damage hopefully if this buff is too big
i mean august has said that the whole thing about vayne having true damage is that your on a timer fighting vayne, which is still a bit bs with the amount of selfpeel vayne has.
but I definitely agree that there is too much true damage (or damage in general)
I honestly think that assassins and burstmages are slowly losing their identity due to everyone getting insane amounts of dmg, riot definitely needs to turn the overall dmg down by like 10-30% aside from assassins and burstmages, AND THEN NOT TURN THE DAMAGE BACK UP AGAIN
I DONT CARE THAT TANKS ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT HARDLY BEING ABLE TO KILL PPL, THAT'S NOT THEIR JOB.
I DONT CARE THAT PEOPLE ARENT ABLE TO ONE SHOT OTHER PPL ANYMORE(aside from burst focused champs) THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE
tactical sett nuke has been engaged.
I'm not sure if sett, at least normal sett is gonna be affected that much. Conqueror only increases adaptive damage, which the haymaker already scales with, but doesnt increase the power of his abilities like say spear of shojin does.
@@sinofwrath698 Its obvious that you will not go conq anymore. PTA will be the new meta rune.
I wonder if death stance hasn't been affected poorly
That is a incredible good question actually
Huh, interesting...
I would like to have a honest answer from the riot balance Team on following question:
The W and Ult of Mel, the Changes to TP and now this...who asked for it? For real idk, are u bored or why u need to ignore the lit 1000 other problems that are existing in leagues balancing and only make it worse?
Maybe its a sozial experiment: How many tickets can our support system handle until it crashes or our employes are quitting...just make it make sence
As a top lane main. The changes to TP were necessary in some fashion, because so many champions would TP and still run you down like a dog in lane if they were slightly ahead, because of how much of a mess the lane is, same goes for team fights, if you were facing a nasus. You leaving to TP benefits your team, had unreasonably huge impact. And if the nasus went. Even if he doesn't die, he still ends up behind because of it, theres a lot of reasons behind the change for a lot of champions and reasons, but i feel top lane will always be the most impacted with TP/resistance items.
0:52 Axiom aranist didn't work on garen R before these changes??? How come it shows bonus damage on R when i play garen ?
its a bug either way, either it gives bonus dmg even though it shouldnt, or it doesnt give bonus dmg but shows that it does
Does this mean that shojin also would make darius ult deal 12% more dmg. Can you combine that with the 14% from axiom arcanist to make darius ult deal a lot more dmg?
So important question. Since it now gets affected by damage amps, it means it also its affected by damage reducttions?
(Sona's, W exaust, grit, etc?)
Prob not, since there is written " still unaffected by debuffs"
Ah so a buff with still no counter play to it. Good to know
Does this mean damage reduction effects will also reduce true damage? That would make sense.
i better hope so.
I had a camille build that was built around the idea of "What if true damage can be amped?" and a counterbuild that was "What if true damage could be reduced?" while the counter one does not work aymore sadly (Rip anathemas chains) if i can damage amp camille's q to the degree i have my suspicions, it WILL be ugly
no, it says "still unaffected by debuffs"
@@panpan4757 well that is just wonderfull.
@@panpan4757 they'll have to nerf many of the true damage champions for sure then
@@distraction2803 eh not really, the only think it majorly affects is just coup/last stand which is only like 8%
I have not yet seen a comment on Master Yi. He also deals true damage. I misunderstood the video?
I was looking for this too 😂
Not only they are buffing true damage but also move the AS cap to 3. Fucking ridiculous.
That's not fair, if true damage can be buffed by damage amp effects then it should get nerfed by damage debuffs as well. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
I'd rather have tank items nerfed and true damage removed from the game, these buffs might get out of control once tanks are out of the meta.
I dont feel thats the play. Because tanks would probably be less picked, if their entire team is AD/AP, and they shred you before you can engage or really lockdown. It'll make your role useless.
Darius and Sett will terrorize toplane. Last stand will increase Darius R (if you add axiom arcanist and gathering storm...) And Sett W by a lot. Now whether its better top go PTA or CONQ IDK yet
True Damage is absolute crap from my point of view. It's simply the result of the fact that Riot doesn't manage to balance damage and resistances properly. The worst is True Damage like Vayne and Garan, which you can't even build against
But is it only from PTA?
Axiom arcanist already increased true damage on garen's ult, Thing like shojin also did
They want garen to one shot full HP champs pressing R
Shojin, liandry and riftmaker will now increase your true dmg with the last two increasing ignite's dmg
While axiom arcanist just increases the ult dmg regardless of the damage being true dmg or not it just cares if your ult counts as an aoe spell or not
@@LEO-BLAZE shojin already did as it was, Darius Ult and Olaf E were all increased by 12% by Shojin
@cosimocosimo2319precision tree last row runes, last stand, cut down, coup de grace
not just PTA, just all sources in general. which sure, is PTA, but also other sources like bottom 3 runes on precision tree. then theres situations like champions doing % more dmg, and when they do true dmg it doesnt work atm.
i wonder if exaust works on gwen, vayne, etc....
PTA Fed Sett unleashing the BOMBA white stream of damage
i could take his white stream of damage 😳
... damage amp from items has done this already. Except those also affect smite, ignite, and red buff.
You could literally make abilities that do true damage deal 60-75% increased damage. Even ones without scalings.
Are they really that understaffed that they didn't know this?
so does this work with garen's R true dmg since it not only has % but also a flat amount it?
why wouldnt it work bro ? like why would it be a special case? it calculates the flat and the percentage, adds them together, and then multiplies it by the amp’s percentage. But like why tf would it not work, what’s the line of thinking here…..?
ofc? why would it not?
@@nimrodszocs2795 weirdly hostile...
Is this live or on PBE?
this is live
Just what we needed the most... Thanks riot.
does this also count for the blue potion ture damage?
1:03 What kind of zesty Remus arch did we enter?
Interesting buff considering the massive abuse of top garen in KR right now with axiom anarchist and ignite allowing him to literally kill you a little over half hp, now he can kill you at 75% hp while moving at lightspeed and still being incredibly tanky
is this change live?
So this means that Camille, who has a cho'gath ult on a 3 sec cooldown, will be able to one shot faster with shojin
Kog maw passive is busted now, it triggers so often they don't even realize it
is this in live server? (edit: no lmao)
why riot is so horrified to just make tanks be TANKS, it's not like they got a huge playerbase, those guys are always the top demage of my matches evern tho they biuld full tank items, just make tanks tank, if amor pen is suck an issue just make itens that alow tanks to counterplay it, really can't understand what they are thinking
is this currently live?
Genuinely curious how this will effect Kog passive stocks
so vayne does over 700 more TRUE dmg in this one clip like yo yi, her, bel etc already shred u w their autos... we maybe needed tank shredder or sth but like who need this it simply feels too op😭
I thing that damage amp already works with True Damage, right? Like how Shojin works for Camille or Garen?
It stated that it worked on some champion and riot is making it consistent to work for every source of true damage before it worked only for ultimates and Camille q since her true damage is unique she transforms her damage into true damage so the damage is increased then transformed into true damage.
Not quite. Before this change, the only way to increase true damage was through item passives, like Shojin, Haunting Guise, Riftmaker, yada yada, but it didn't interact with things like Press the Attack
Axiom Arcanist already buff True Damage Ults by 14%, thiss is why is strong on Garen
true damage is already unfair for what it is. now damage amps work but not damage mitigators? damn
Is this live or next patch?
I don’t get why they need this true damage already is viable the issue is hp pools are too high so anything that doesn’t deal true damage doesn’t do well into metas like this…. Like why is true damage buffed and not things without it
I still disagree with true DAMAGE not being mitigated by DAMAGE REDUCTION
What? True damage ia already cancer vs tanks, building more HP doesn't usually help and they buff it? Man, Vayne top is already reportable, now I have to ban her 24/7
Welcome back Gargoyle Stoneplate Cho'Gath, my beloved
Nice. Now my Cho'gath ult can do even more damage because of Axiom Arcanist while still building full tank.
axiom already worked for ults. no change there. u can however go coup if u want extra 8%
Axiom Arcanist Cho'Gath will be straight up nightmare
It already increased the damage you guys have been sleeping.
as if true damage wasn't already a shitty idea in itself
I got mislead by the thumbnail, my hopes all shattered and my day is ruined
Sure buff true damage, but there is no proper way to mitigate true damage... Build more health they said to counter true damage, vayne laughs and shreds you in 0.5 seconds because of your max hp...
I'm sure this change won't have any negative effects on the game
Unaware
Riot loves giving me c word. Can you make sure to give Asol players more cancer. We are already struggling here because of how much you forgot about scaling champions existing and now I have to deal with Yone giving me more cancer amount of dmg if he takes ignite.
Sol is 50 percent win rate in emerald plus, you must be iron bro as well xD
@@Mcrays1337 that makes no sense because asol has better winrate the lower you go
@Mcrays1337 idk why would you assume that i am iron. When i am Master. I know his winrate is fine in emerald but please look at masters+. I am just saying that Yone and Akshan are going to be harder. Because the rank where the early game actually matters is getting more nerfed.
@@Mcrays1337 winrate is influenced by a lot of things you can't just blindly look at it and assume champion is fine. Otherwise Yone k'sante and other champions would need huge buffs really quickly (which is not true they need Nerfs). For example if you look at 15.1 patch you can see that asol has positive winrate but then you scroll down and see that best build is without boots. It's not that Asol got buffed or something. but everyone else was rushing t3 boots. And Asol doesn't depend on boots so Asol players didn't go boots. The early game was still harder than in patch 14.
how does this effect my ekko stocks. does he go harder or is he just the same
if you run ignite he goes harder.
@@YanYanicantbelievethistakenffs it doesnt affect ignite
Ah yes, the consequences of their actions has led them to not know anything how to rebalance adc and tanks
Oh damn Ignite works too? I really think they're gonna add Ignite to the exception list later on
Wait....so that Lol Dobby video of the garen main "supposedly" becoming even stronger because of Axiom Arcanist, wasn't actually real?
It was all Placebo?
Nah that's crazy.
no, cus it did work. it literally tracks the dmg in game aswell. the point is to make it consistent. it works some places, other places not and it doesnt make much sense. coup the grace, cut down, last stand.... these dont work on garen ult. so this would change for instance. and for other ppl with true dmg, like fiora darius cho vayne etc...
whattf was that at the end now im bricked
Why
Tanks op
@@kev1310im gonna be honest, tanks aren't overpowered and this is gonna impact bruisers more than it does tanks imo, its more-so the tank items that are problem, if they're not on the cheaper end, their stats are insane, a lux bought a banshee veil against my sylas and i watched his damage flatline to her when he was full ap lmao, the resistance numbers seem wacked out.
@@KOHoxton bruisers build HP
why? for the sake of consistency. why exactly does it work with dmg amp from items, but not runes? it doesnt say it anywhere. or anywhere in the game. someone who doesnt know, isnt gonna easily find out that coup the grace doesnt work on darius ult. and if or when they find that out, why would they think shojin would work? or axiom arcanist?
Let's buff the most unhealthy type of dmg, instead of buffing composition, team building etc.
I think this game needs champion synergy just like Marvel Rivals, it makes the game more fresh and you always see different kind of champions.
shojin axiom arcanist fiora goes crazy
Will this work?
@@palnic3832 this already works, and has been working since axiom was out
the only difference for fiora is that PTA and coup de grace didnt work before on her vitals
people already took PTA for earlygame power in some matchups, but with this change it wouldnt nerf her lategame anymore and probably be her best rune in all matchups
GIVE REKSAI TURE DAMAGE BACK RIOT😭😭
Yes first they removed it from R years ago and last season they removed it fm E 😢
Cho'Gath eating good this patch (literally)
Liandrys, Riftmaker, and Shojin pasives.- So, what changed?? -
coup , last stand, cut down, PTA... its a small change, but id say a welcome one.
This will definitely break something in the game.
I wish the true damage dont crit and ignore shield.
fiora loving this
I thought its all about that band, i was wrong.....
Absolute baited
Wow if only rek'sai had some true damage in her kit it would really help her to get out of the hole riot put her in when they reworked the kit... Oops seems like I was about 10 months late
wait... so this means, my CHO ult never got axiom buff because it was true damage...?
...
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Here i am who thought true damage was always implified by percentage :D
and u my friend, is why its being changed. its not consistent at all atm lmao
So your telling me my AP vayne with PTA, shojin, riftmaker, nashor and liandry is finally viable!
can't wait to try it on my full crit garen
This only really affects pta as the other things like horizon worked with it
all the 3 runes on precision tree. yes pta too.
how about reksai gets her fking true dmg back?
if they are changing it, they could at least bring it back...
can’t wait for crit true dmg shadowflame ap vayne 🥶🥶
does that mean liandry riftmaker lillia is giga buffed?
Buffing true dmg because tanks are broken right now? You are telling me that nerfing everything except tanks and tank items was a mistake? Now they are buffing the worst type of dmg in the game because they dont want to nerf tanks? Another RIOT L here.
Why they don't nerf tanks and tank items since they oneshot building tank. I think that's the main problem here , not champions that deal true dmg.
Every single change they do is going one step forward and 100 backwards.
its not buffing true dmg to adress tank issues. its making a change for the sake of consistency. relax, this change BARELY affects any sort of balance. ur fucking lost my guy, relax.
This will buff the winrate of Smolder a bit more.
Mathematically correct SETT let's go
Ultimate rune is bugged and doesn’t work on Vayne ._.
the “meow” makes me weak 🥺
give me a single true damage champ thats not op already?? garen, vayne, gwen, fiora, velkoz, like wtf?
which ones of these are actually op and isnt just a list of champs that can do true dmg?
Didn't it already do this? Atleast some true damage could be buffed for example Smolder burn by shojin/liandry and Sett W damage was buffed by shojin aswell.
yes, which is why its being changed. it wasnt consistent. some runes worked some didnt, item dmg amp generally worked tho. but coup the grace wouldnt work for true dmg.
what about exhaust? does it decrease true dmg? hope so...
says in the post, no debuffs dont work for it. and that also doesnt make a lot of sense and would feel like shit for some champs more than others.
so i have to sacrifice a sum for the limited true damage items left to be viable, thx riot :D
I instantly tapped cuz I thought it's about the music group
New math correct sett just dropped
Ap Chogath will go hard with this changes
The ending always gets me, anyway I don't like this change cause I don't play true dmg dealers