Stossel Confronts a Professor
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- ASU Professor Asao Inoue says grading students on standard English is racist.
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"If you use a single standard to grade your students’ languaging, you engage in racism,” says Asao Inoue, a prominent Professor of Rhetoric.
Academics believe him. Education journals publish his ideas.
U.S. News credits him for professors ditching traditional grading.
Inoue calls himself a “Marxian.” Few such professors will talk to me. Here is a rare debate about what’s actually being taught in college classrooms.
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1. Pick a subject
2. Call it racist
3. Profit
Just another grifter.
Math.
1+1 = 2 is racist.
you are welcome. that will be $100.
And to keep your job, remember to keep telling people "We still have a lot more work to do"...
Funny how he Ike’s making money of Marxism almost like he believes in capitalism
Marxism the act of making money stating capitalism doesn’t work
This guy is everything that’s wrong with academia.
Amen ! Another leftist goofball !
He’s desperate for relevance and playing the race card is the only way he can get there.
And somebody picked him to be in a position of power and authority.
He's everything that's wrong with humanity.
I have to give him credit though that he is a good public speaker, especially for tailoring talking points to a specific audience
This just proves that just because you’re a professor, doesn’t mean you’re the brightest
I wouldn't say that he is stupid. He is just trying to get publicity and some money by picking latest trend.
They are not stupid. They are caught up in their biases.
@@7heHopeMan Being caught up in your biases is stupid, self-indulgent & dull witted, reflecting lack of critical thinking, integrity, & discipline. Conservatives embrace truth, facts, reality, liberals embrace their tribal narratives & rhetoric.
@@Tespri Or creating a trend. I think I know what you mean... the trend of calling everything racist. I think he is just trying to make up his own, and then get famous for it.
He's extremely bright. He's just applying his considerable intellect to a bad idea, in the hope he can turn it into a good idea by sheer tyranny of intellectual will. But as the Irish say, you can't get blood out of a turnip.
George Orwell said, "Some ideas are so stupid only intellectuals believe them." This professor is one of them.
I have a hard time calling this professor "Intellectual" but thats me.
@@joetheplumber2970 I think Orwell was being sarcastic.
Yeah, the problem with common sense is that it is common. Elitists are averse to that.
I'm a college English teacher and I am horrified by these ideas. It's not compassionate to hold students to such low expectations. It only limits their future opportunities.
No, this clown professor does...big difference. Still, generally speaking, kids don't send themselves to college...parents do. Meaning, parents hand the keys to their kids minds over to guys like this and wonder why their kids come back wrecked. Change that, change the rest.
Also denying honors/AP courses. In standard math I was incredibly bored because I grasped the concepts well. My boredom led to distracting others. I don't think that it is what you want for people who are average or struggling. Not to mention saving money/time by earning college credit early.
Colleges are starting to learn that if they teach ineffectively the students will have to spend more time and money at the college.
@Krusty Sam It's called GATE and they do this in elementary school.
When no child left behind was implemented the quality of education in America k-12 started deteriorating. You can't legislate equal outcomes.
this guy is a professional victim, and teaches everyone they are a victim of something.
Except white people…
Excellent observation. The left is Nothing but victimhood & insanity.
Everyone except straight white men, because according to fools like this guy, we are the victimizers of the entire world.
@Muzaffar Krylov that's a terrible plan. People like him corrupt the minds of impressionable young adults and allowing them to have a platform is destroying the West. Him and his ilk belong in an Alaskan labor camp.
@Muzaffar Krylov that's how you get antifa
This is how you lose America one piece at a time. This guy needs to be pushed back at every turn.
Until we stop allowing our schools to indoctrinate our children, there will be 100 more of these types of people as soon as one is ignored.
He needs to first shave that pathetic excuse for a beard. Then he should be fired for racist and violent "rhetoric". Then he should be labeled a traitor and shunned, to never be employable again.
Push him all the way back into unemployment.
@@PanzerAce760 push him into a Siberian gulag
I agree with Stossel, he’s wrong and needs to be vigorously debated. (And/or debunked)❤
"Standardized English" is just proper English...
Proper English being what has been standardized so that’s kind of a circular definition. It’s best to understand standard English as the English people speak that does not automatically mark them as having come from a particular social economic class and this is the best English to use. If you don’t want people to form unconscious biases against you based on whatever attitudes they may carry inside.
The worst part is is that people like this are actively hurting the people they say they want to protect.
He is possessed by his ideology.
@@MW-ic7lr That’s well put.
No the worst part is that they keep their jobs and continue to teach this crap
this guy is a hater, racist and attention whore above all...ignore and deport. people will do and say anything for attention...clowns
The Vietnamese community of Little Saigon in California have a very low English speaking rate. Those folks run family businesses and restaurants that mainly cater to other Vietnamese. They cannot advance or make their business bigger as a result. My father speaks English very well even though he has some grammar issues and an accent but he is still able to read and write fluently enough to translate Vietnamese to English.
Mr. Stossel is a man of pure integrity and class, unlike this joke of a professor.
OMG, this is where you open a dictionary to look up the meaning of "nutty professor", there you'll find a picture of this nutbag
@Robert yup
@Chief Scalpalot You are not wrong. As for 'Operation Mockingbird', isn't it interesting that every time people are putting the 2nd Amendment back to pre WW2 there is an "Incident" that the Dems use to take more of our Rights?
I gave Asao the benefit of the doubt and went all through the video. There indeed seems something wholly wrong in what he is saying. I am going to have to agree, he does seem like a joke to me as well. US may indeed have no official language, but English is still the most widely used, and therefore, good skills at this language are important. This will go down a very bad route, if we take this kind of stuff seriously. It would get really bad.
Capitalism is evil, as he has a bougie career at a university. Wow is all I can say.
Just how the hell did we get to this point in our country? How are people like him teaching at higher level education and getting credit by news outlets?
Look into "Yuri Bezmenov".
We let the government choose what to teach our children for decades and decades. They decided to stop teaching them and start indoctrinating them and we're just now realizing it. Now we're in a fight with the megastructure called the federal government.
By starting your arguments with the idea that you are everything you are about to predicate is in the name of compassion and empathy.
Marxists infiltrated education decades ago.
Long March through the institutions.
"I don't have the answer" ....the most important point he made.
This guy is why the current generation will be remembered as the least educated generation.
Look at his first name! That says it all. Totally a whole
More like the unluckiest generation.
Smart but stupid.
He was behaving significantly less extreme in your interview, John. A proof that he knows he can't stand by his ideas outside his own circle.
and he knows his peers and students won't be watching this interview, because "they don't watch the content made by this "r4c|st" stossel guy."
Awesome analogy. I was thinking the exact thing. Smiled more, toned down the rhetoric.
Or he's an idiot
Also, loved the: "he grew a beard after his speech" - was it to hide behind?
"C-c-capitalism i-isn't t-that b-b-b-bad, John...."
"There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them." George Orwell
Orwell has become a sage, for better or worse.
@@k-ozdragon Orwell was writing cautionary tales. These people think that he was writing how-to manuals!
@@johns7734 lol no doubt, sadly. 1984 was my favorite book the minute I read it. I didn't expect to get to live it too. At least not in this country.
@@k-ozdragon Don't consume the drug known as Leftism!
@@k-ozdragonOrwell wasn’t predicting the future. He was writing about the past and present and future
If people don’t know standard English people will CHOOSE to see those people as uneducated.
This man is an example of how a lack of ability to observe reality is rewarded. It's easier to control people who are stupid.
Stupidity is the real pandemic.
@@patrickbodine1300 True. Pure stupidity from a fool
Those who can do. Those who can't teach or go into politics
There presently are millions of "migrants" now streaming across our southern borders striving to get into a Marxian or Marxist country?
Of course not. Our nation was founded to be a free market society which has come to be called capitalist.
thats the only way marxism or communism can take hold. you gotta be pretty stupid to think its a good idea and will somehow work. ever notice that the people who fled the ussr and north korea are pretty intelligent, smart people look for a way out of truely oppresive systems like marxism or communism.
What’s scary is that this guy is teaching our youth. What’s absolutely terrifying is that he gave this talk at “the largest teacher conference of the year” and wasn’t booed off the stage…
What's scary is that all over this country, in a variety of spheres, not *one* guillotine has yet come out.
hes proposing modern slavery for children. You have to be schooled by the state and you are not judged on merit but by your identity
It wasn't the largest teacher conference of the year, it was the largest conference of his field. ("Conference on College Composition & Communication")
Scares me to death and I'm not afraid of anything!
I wonder how quick he’d be cancelled if he swapped out the “white” for “jew”
Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.
~ George Orwell
It is refreshing that this so-called professor was willing to be on this video.
“It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.”
― Thomas Sowell
facts
It’s a shame more college age kids are propagandized with “Marxist “ philosophy when we have fact based logic from people like Thomas Sowell
Thomas Sowell what an American treasure that should be taught in every school.
I believe Mr. Sowell put to bed this idea of "Ebonics", at least to the extent of how I had seen it, when he explains where it came from in one of his books...hint..like all English, it came from white people, but specifically in this case it came from lesser educated/poor white people, so lets all just calm the f_ck down...
God I wish he was younger so he could debate morons like this guy
The only point this guy made well was that you don’t have to be smart to be an educator.
He def leads by example😬😒
Or honest.
This guy is insane. I give him an F in being a professor.
And an A in insanity!
This is one of the things that can happen in a nation that refuses to walk in the light.
Now we know why there are so many student loan defaults
@@Religious_manAmen brother
And THIS guy is a teacher….🤨
"That's what college is all about: meeting people you wouldn't have met otherwise."
I always thought it was about getting an education to help you secure a successful career in your desired field of interest.
And borrowing money at 6.9% apr to "meet people". Ridiculous!
I think he's confusing fraternities with college.
And why would the students want to teach other students? Isn’t that the professors job?
@@ytuser3267 as a student, it does help having other students learning the same material. Which is why online classes are so hard for many students like me. The professor alone may not always be enough to learn the material
Sadly that's what college is nowadays. Most majors arent really going to get you a good job
The thing with people like him is that he pays no price for being wrong, while all the rest of us do.
Crazy how these “professors” aren’t fired for not doing their job. And people pay thousands to listen to these clowns and actually agree with them just because they are labeled as professionals.
The GREAT THOMAS SOWELL says the same. cheers
@@morganclare4704 Was about to mention the same, their only product are ideas, and therefore they are never actually tested.
Tell his kids they should just learn in Swahili.
He should be stripped of all teaching accreditations, and never be allowed to teach where a single penny of taxpayers money goes.
AMEN
Apparently, you are racist for saying that. I guess. Hell, I don't know. That guy was just spuing out a bunch of word salad that was nearly impossible to understand.
Silly parents are paying for their kids to sit in classrooms with this crap.
Teaching credentials...you've never gone to college. Lmao😂
First you need to understand he teaches at Arizona State University or ASU just add one word for screwing off and reverse the lettering and you get: Party USA. Back when Hefner still published a magazine they ranked and reported on the best Party schools in the nation. ASU proudly made it their mission to attain and hold the top position on Playboy's list. ASU makes no pretense of educating students. I have many family and friends who Partied there. They are a revenue seeking organization Their goal, and i would not be surprised if it was added to their charter document, is to provide a fun place for high school graduates to party if they can come up with the necessary tuition, room and board. In addition to t,r & b revenue it is well subsidized with federal grants and state tax dollars and by all accounts it is the most expensive 4 year party school in the country. As to education? Radicals welcome. No propaganda unfit to advance. Hence Asao Inoue. Just AX him.
Shame on you ! You just exposed what has caused such MASSIVE failures in our universities. THANK YOU !
Perfect example of how our children are being confused intentionally by their own professors.
Exactly
Yup. It's all about the kids. They'll turn them into rabid little idiots and send them out after their own parents. It's actually already happening.
@@dhokanson55 This is why the government should never be the one educating our kids. They have lost all credibility.
This man just wants attention
Only if they are stupid. Unfortunately a lot of them are stupid.
I can't praise Stossel enough. Good man.
I love how they are having the conversation in standard English 😂
I'd love to see him trying to converse with me in my original northern English dialect. He wouldn't get past "Hello" without having to ask for clarification, we say "Naer" instead.
Mr. Stossel, I always look forward to your posts as I immensely enjoy your integrity, reporting and brilliant sense of true journalism. Truly sad to see this clown is a so called "educator." There are so many great teachers but, it seems we only see the bad lately. It is an honorable profession and as a son of a professor who was honored by his students, truly sad to see an honorable profession diminished by such clowns.
"The tests are not unfair. LIFE is unfair and the tests measure the results."
David Riesman
We’re letting these decadent fools set the agenda. The results will be disastrous.
No bruh thats Sowell
Tests measure motivation in school
Fairness is the mantra the left uses to justify unfair policy. They have to punish those they feel have an advantage to make the disadvantaged feel better. This is the root of Marxism. The result is the lowest common denominator in standard of living, opportunity, and incentive. Everyone is poor, except the leaders that tricked the people into believing this crap.
That Prof should have his tenure terminated. The thought of him teaching his rhetoric to the future of OUR great nation is just down right scary.
He’s gay and an activist. They get anything they desire.
@@stavroslask1292 These people and the colleges should be sued for discrimination. Make them pay.
If they don’t like capitalism, give them what they desire and take away their money
Hes doing exactly what the establishment wants
School is a power structure. The students who stand out against that power structure do not succeed. We do not pass go; do not collect $200.
@@TOAOM123 Yeah, and it seems that his cirriculum is predominantly used to indoctrinate today's youth.
I find it funny that Professor Asao spoke in standard English to communicate his ideas instead of just making random noises expecting you to understand his meaning.
I'd say it's almost like he doesn't understand the point of language, but these people know what they're doing. They're not the brightest, but they're also not that stupid.
What better way to raise yourself to the top by eliminating the rest of competition.
Indeed, it’s funny and scary at the same time! I wish all these Marx… speak broken whatever language, so normal people will not understand their ideas! Honestly, I don’t understand all these so called ‘fighters’ here, in the US?! Why don’t they take their fights to Japan, for example? Because there NOBODY WILL LISTEN TO THIS NONSENSE!
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 Totally agree: Asao Inoue is a prime example of the "highly educated fool" described in Carlo M. Cipolla's The Basic Laws of Human Stupidiy* (1976): "The probability that a certain person be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person."
I was born with dyslexia listening to this makes me grateful that I’m 56 years old.
I had wonderful special ed teachers❤in the Poway unified school,District .
The thing i like about John show is he speaks clear and simple ..
These are the very people that must be rooted out of society
So many of them in every universities.
The reason so many are emotional-wrecked with their virtue signaling culture of political correctness.
When we moved from Texas to Washington State, my elementary school children went from advanced placement to regular classes. The school system said there policy was to let the advanced students help lift the others. Instead, my kids were bored and unmotivated to excel. One of my biggest regrets is placing them in a school system that wouldn’t let them thrive.
You moved to Washington State? Was it a prison transfer or something?
I can confirm that the bright kids don't help the dumb ones. I was one of the bright kids in a regular class (due to growing up in a small town that didn't have AP classes). I didn't want to help the dumbasses and was just bored most of the time.
Quite ridiculous, isn't it. On the other end of the spectrum. Kids who have behavioral problems and cause disruptions have no repercussions and drag down the productivity of the other students.
When Asao said honors students should be held back to "help their peers," all I heard was that better students should be doing the teacher's job.
Maybe homeschooling would have done the trick. The key takeaway here is that it was all your fault your kids were put somewhere they couldn't thrive.
I grew up in what most people would call a redneck family. Our common vernacular was far from proper. My parents pushed me to learn pushed me to become proficient in the language that I spoke. Thomas Sowell would argue this man into the ground.
So would George Carlin....
this guy is a hater, racist and attention whore above all...ignore and deport. people will do and say anything for attention...clowns
Southern vernacular is closer to the original colony vernacular as per mr sowell.
Thomas Sowell is brilliant
It’s so amazing how quickly these peoples arguments fall apart with even the slightest amount of pushback. Libertarian types get a lot of flack for debating “only stupid college kids” but this professor didn’t hold up any better.
“Isn’t that the point of college? To meet people you otherwise wouldn’t?”
No, that’s the point of nightclubs.
The fact that people take out student loans and go into debt to be educated by people like this is disturbing
Its this key point that allows the left to always control the narrative
And they can not pay off the loans because what they learn in school does not qualify them to get a job.
@@elpepinazo7801 and yet the technical and subject literate jobs require degrees. Sounds like a catch 22.
Yeah, and not even education, but indoctrination and confusion.
And then come out of those classes thinking they shouldn't pay for the consequences of their own actions. No, every one else forced them to go to a prestigious school to learn what nearly amounts to Tupperware®
Having academics such as this proves there is a constant downfall of common sense in this country.
This guy is such a liar. The way he spoke before the other audience was clearly more racist against anyone not a minority. He tried to act like he isn't really like that.
I’ve been in big 10 classrooms and his teaching has 100% made it into academia. Standards are gone.
Looking like Kevin Spacey with beard.
This movement has been a long time in the making. It is a decades-old agenda involving the destabilization of America's cultural institutions, from the inside, moving ever leftward, to pave the way for a hybrid form of Markism.
That's why we need to tell our children to stay away from these schools. Mine is learning a trade that will make him 6 digits easy as he takes over my machine shop. We need to stop giving money and our children to these indoctrination sanatariums. Kind of like telling Bud to knock it off, or Fox. We hold the power.
What's funny is people like him still try to gatekeep academics. How about that equity.
Standards come from self. What standard do you hold yourself to? I always did more than required and it’s why I have what I have and can do what I can do. Write that down 👍
The river of 💩 💩💩 flowing out of this professor’s mouth used to be hard to believe.
Now it’s becoming hard to believe how many professors talk like this.
Even discussing this idiocy is a waste of time but we have to and thanks to people like John. These ideas are being exposed as stupid.
Demons barf pea soup.
I’ve taught for 16 years. Weaker kids tend to drag down the strong ones. Not the other way around as the distinguished professor suggests. Abolish AP and honors classes because not all kids can achieve it? Ludicrous!
We keep moving further and further toward a culture that is trying to dismantle meritocracy in the name of “equity” or equality of results. So disheartening and unfair to those willing to meet the demands.
They believe in equity over equality. Equity is dragging everyone down to the lowest common denominator so no one can succeed. These people have inferiority complexes and poor work ethics. If they don't succeed they blame everyone else. Even if it was someone else fault if your constantly seeking self improvement and have that mentality it can never hurt you.
My wife was a straight A student all through school and went to a high school for gifted students. It would be real sad to take that away from the students who put in the effort to excel. These people are hung up on equity when they should be talking about equality.
Finland used to score high on global tests. Now after they removed special class for trouble children the standards had lowed with it.
I agree. His arguments demonstrate his lack of understanding as it relates to education. I think he disagrees with merit base decision making processes.
I think that is a good point, in your second sentence! This is not about trying to get the lower end students to do better. It is about trying to drag everyone down to their level. This is typically the effect of certain Marxist ideas. As I have seen stated, Marxism is not so much about caring for the weaker members of society, but rather a hatred of success.
Perhaps he should move to Japan and see how his ideologies work out there. He is completely clueless.
He's dead wrong on honors classes. I went to a private school that had no honors classes and that had no expanded curriculum for me. I started there in fourth grade and tested into eighth-grade reading and math. The school only went to eighth. I basically sat in those classes for four years tutoring and waiting for the rest of my classmates to catch up. When I switched to a public school in high school, I was able to do honors classes, but was behind where I could have been taking calculus because I'd been held back by my prior school. Instead, I had juniors in the trigonometry/analytic geometry class I was taking as a senior. In the end, no one benefits from any of that.
He's not dead wrong. He's DEAD WRONG!
I was fortunate, and so was my older brother, as we were skipped ahead a grade when we showed we were capable of the higher grade level. And someone who started school there at the same grade as my brother was left behind twice and graduated a year later than I did.
And that allowed the more advanced and less advanced students to progress at a rate that was more suited to their abilities.
Private schools are MAINLY about letting your kids meet and cultivate friendships with OTHER rich kids and not any of those poor riff raff in public school. Its WHO YOU KNOW not WHAT YOU KNOW. You want your kids college sweetheart to be a RICH one. Oh sure, education is also available.
His argument is almost that it is the honors students' job to teach low-performing students, not the teachers' job. I'm sure that honors kids would help some other students some of the time if they were all in the same class, but that is hardly reason to abolish honors classes, especially given the benefits of honors classes to good students. Also, you could make the opposite argument, that combining honors students and low-performing students will lead to resentment on the part of both groups, making them both worse off.
For me it was the opposite. I tested in middle school to qualify for advanced math which I was denied for some reason. Up until the junior year of high school I couldn't pick my math class and I spent that time goofing around with my buddies in class. If anything, I think it was a detriment to their learning having me there. Once I had the opportunity I took trig and precalculus at the same time and stopped distracting others since I had to focus myself.
"Bad people spoke English, so we should stop forcing kids to speak English."
Someone handed this man a degree and shook his hand.
In love the way John schools these fools
And said in English‘Congratulations’
bad people breathed oxygen and drank water too
And with the "labor-based" grading, and I know personally this has been happening for at least a decade (and even in states you would never expect), this problem will only get worse. The people that are graduating can barely spell, or write complete sentences, yet still receiving diplomas and degrees. Whatever fields these people choose, we can be sure that their work output will be mediocre and subpar. Thanks, to several generations of "marxian"/marxist-minded teachers.
I guess bad people are incapable of speaking other languages.
All I can surmise from that guy is "I don't have a solution but I will complain and claim to be right without making a proper point."
In defence, I say - the first step to improve something is to realize it's not working correctly. But that "professor" is clearly stating what "better" is by calling himself a Marsian... Marxian... whatever. He didn't do his reasearch well enough! :D
There is no problem with the system. At least not anything like what he is saying. This guy is insane. He is being racist by calling black people too stupid to learn standard English, while in the same breath calling people who want to help black people learn these things 'racist' simply for having high expectations of them. Which those people are having no trouble at all meeting by the way. English is easy. Anyone who wants to learn it can learn it, especially if they have teachers who work hard to help them meet high standards of excellence. The whole idea that black people are somehow less intelligent than white people is outrageous. And it's the idea this 'professor' is pushing, although he tries to hide it.
@@lFunGuylyour comment is great, except that English is easy. English is a contrived, jumbled together mess of dozens of different languages cobbled together over time and spoken quite differently in America than say, Britain. It's filled with exceptions and many I've spoken to who learned it said it was much more difficult than many other languages. It's not Finnish or Swahili, but it ain't Italian, French, Spanish or many other easier ones either...
@@randylahey8207 Haha, I agree. Actually I'm pretty sure English is one of the more messy languages. It may not be easier to learn than other languages. My point is simply that this guy is being demeaning and racist by acting like your skin color has anything to do with whether or not you are capable of learning stuff.
@@lFunGuyl completely agree. My favorite example is black American soldiers in WWII who stayed in Germany afterwards and had families. Their children were raised in the German schooling system, and treated like every other kid was. Their scores in math were exactly in line with the rest of the population, as no one created an exception and simply taught them as they would any child. As bad of a President as W. Bush was, his line on the soft bigotry of low expectations is a doosie. A wonderful description of modern liberalism...
The VERY same professor who opposes standardized English, speaks standardized English.
I am a 52 year old normal white dude living in North America who struggles to write a letter.
I wish I had paid more attention in English classes. Unlike physics, math, science, geography etc we use english all day, everyday. It really is the most important thing to learn in school.
Do not let it slide.
I'm another old normal white dude living in North America who is here to tell you that your argument is lucid and concise, and you probably write better letters than many people with college degrees in Humanities and Social Science but I disagree with you. Yes, proper handling of English is extremely important, but Math and science are the basis for all technology. Technology is vital to survive in today's environment, whether you want to have a well-paid job or successfully run a business. So a well-rounded education (which you no longer get in most Colleges, let alone High Schools) should be really everyone's goal.
ChatGPT is making sure NO ONE would ever knows how to write a letter so dont worry you aint alone in this one.
I struggle writing emails also. I can get stuck on them for hours. You are correct chat GPT is helping a lot - it gives me ideas on how to word the emails and lets me know if I'm concise and to the point t
Dear NWD, newsflash you're a minority.
Btw, I'm a successful college grad, but a very poor 💸 trucker. 🚛💨
Signed: 'The Smartest Dumbass You'll Ever Know.'
It takes effort to keep up with writing standards. One reason you do it is so that you can effectively express yourself. Having a large vocabulary enables people to express what they are thinking in a very granular way. These Marxist idiots don't want anybody to express themselves property. You see what they advocate, which is essentially ghetto street talk--the most infantile way to express yourself. That in itself is a mental prison.
Changing language, changing moral standards, makes people so much easier to divide.
Not only that, but nearly all current language is just a small distance away from standard English. Some subcultures use a lot of slang terms, or pronounce things different. The standard English, is that which keep things consistent. Do away with that, and nothing good will come of it. It just creates confusion (which is probably exactly what these types of people want).
100%
Like how Babylon fell. The marxists know that, and work tirelessly to achieve that.
I was in Frankfort Germany in 2008 and I saw signs in windows saying "Learn English and watch your career take off". English is the language of success, globally. If someone doesn't want you learning English and how to speak it properly, they are oppressing you.
True. I worked with a fella from Syria he said English is the money language.
My EMT instructor did not dumb down our course or give us "labor grading" I got off shift at 2am one night, and got 4 hours of sleep before I made it to class. I was faltering out of consciousness during class and he snapped at me and told me to leave class for the day because we can't have uninformed and unprepared EMTs in the field. Im glad he had no compassion for it. Because I tried my hardest to stay awake despite my job not being very accommodating. I studied my ass off on lessons I didnt fully grasp and ended up near the top of my class because of it and EARNED my liscense the same as every other compotent and STANDARD EMT has. My favorite class I ever took and glad I did it.
Also on the marxist point instead of anti-standard BS. If capitalism is so corrupt because the government has a lot of power (at least in the current US crony capitalism system) what makes him think giving the state ALL the power would be better? Absolute disgrace to academia nationwide.
We live in a clown marxist world
“Marxian” 😂
No, we just have clowns in this world just like that "professor". His logic is illogical. Those successful immigrants in America who hate America should try to go back to their country of origin and let's see what happens.
Marxist clown world * is more apt. It's a clown world with marxist characteristics.
@@TopRanky - Imagine being so delusional that being a "professor of rhetoric" convinces you that those two things are different.
Marxo-Clownian world.
I remember going to college in 2007 and thinking wow these professors are dumb or deceitful; this obviously proves that sentiment
Its hilarious because the professors in community college can somehow be the most intelligent, most caring, and most genuinely GOOD AT LEARNING people you would ever meet.
Meanwhile the profs at these big Uni's, are genuinely retarded half the time.
I honestly dont know why. Maybe its because its easier for con-men to infiltrate an institution the larger it is.
Interesting. He speaks English very well and communicates and expresses his ideas through the use of the English language but is opposed to teaching it in this country in a standardized form🧐
Exactly. He can’t even communicate through any other language lol
"Languageing?" I don't think he speaks English very well at all...
@@bbgun061 You are missing the point.
It's a paradox faced by proponents of Ebonics. I remember in my rhetoric class reading about a class that had learned Ebonics and wanted to write a letter to their State when the program was cancelled. They debated whether or not to use Ebonics instead of English - they understood that writing it in English would make their arguments more credible, but ultimately chose Ebonics because using English would only prove the point that Ebonics was not a valid language. Their letter was summarily ignored, in large part because of their choice. Hence why this "teacher" is using proper English. He wants his views to be seen as legitimate, but he knows if he were to actually use poor English, it would make him sound like a fool.
Logics.
I used to be one of the top students at school. I couldn't care less about helping other students and more about competeing with the best students, advancing my knowledge and achievements. Call me selfish or anything you want, that's how you succeed in life.
One of the best reporters around! Thanks for all your work John!
Well... I was disappointed at how easy he was on the "Marxian"
@@FRN2013 I agree. He should have axed him some tougher questions.
Tucker's gone. Now John is the Best, Period!
@@FRN2013 Yea, I agree but it was nice to see him call the guy out for skimming past all the racist shit he says about white people.
This was maddeningly hilarious. “So you’re a Marxist?” “No, Marxian!!”
I have a PHD in Marxian languaging logics, ax me anything! 😀
LOLzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz🙃
Apparantly even Marx wan't a Marxist. He noted that from what he had seen that if that was what it was, then he wasn't a Marxist.
They are constantly making up Crap just to avoid having to logically defend their beliefs and Ideas.
No, Martian.
It is shocking that anyone in education listens to this man. How can he be employed in this field at all?
Too many in education are just like this man.
Many of the things he advocates for have a LONG documented history and is SOLIDLY established in the literature as being detrimental to students. The guy is a fraud and a grifter.
Higher education is a widely excepted cult.
Tenure
Guy has a recipe for FAILURE.
This dude is a person I will never allow around my children/grandchildren.
Allow? You'll pay them a ton of money to teach your children/grandchildren without even knowing it. That's the scary part.
@@blakessite Very good point. Luckily, parents are starting to realize they've made a grave error in ignoring their children's education. Hopefully, they take the appropriate action. My kids went to a parochial school and the parents were extremely involved.
Wow, how incredibly dangerous professors can be.
Decade after decade we hear these “intellectuals” tell us all why a certain ethnic group just can’t get ahead. We’ve tried everything from free food to free housing, we’ve payed for college, we’ve dropped the grades and scores needed for admission, we’ve made excuse after excuse but still the situation remains dire. At what point are we going to have to just call a spade a spade?
At what point are we going to call it racism to try to create victim mentality in brown and black kids? Minorities like me crawl our way out of poverty through merit. Telling me to speak in a way that no one would understand would see me still sitting in the ghetto complaining why I'm still poor. It's racist to assume I need to speak poorly to not be "white". Intelligible language isn't race motivated so trying to tie it to some race is racist.
As long as they still cast their votes for Democrats, never.
Democrats want them that way, dependent on govt, i.e. your money.
Haven't you figured that out yet?
It's by design, planned & executed.
Politicians never solve problems, and in fact create new ones, re: new FHA mortgage guidelines.
Good credit & good down-payment, pay extra to help bad credit risks with no down-payment.
Brandon's got your back, cause that's the best place to sniff your hair from.
They need competition and inspiration. Some kids are at the bottom of the pack. Some kids come from broken homes, drug addicted parents. Where can they get structure, rules, inspiration to make something of one's self?
@@llIlIlllII
It's supposed to be from the family.
But LBJ & the Democrat's govt policies from 1964 on undermined that hallowed institution.
Welfare programs alienated the father from the familial unit, with sugar daddy uncle Sam in place of the father.
Foodstamps, projects (public housing) and Welfare, are all contingent on an absentee father.
Add to that if a father figure is available, they are saddled with often times onerous child support judgements, often forcing men into default judgements leading them into the incarceration system. Further alienating the father from their children.
So yeah, there's that.
@Phalanx Strings
Not everyone, just new home buyers who are getting new mortgages that have good credit and a good down-payment.
Unless you've got better info.
Love that John Stossel; yet another great video
I guarantee you if this guy goes in for heart surgery, he’s not gonna want the Doctor Who got grades on labor based grading. He’s gonna want a doctor that got all A’s and study and practice.
I hope he gets a surgeon that identifies as a doctor...
you are so right! nice one!
@@HDHQDIRECT Nah, hims got a sturgeon dat tink hims a doktor. Sup!
The labor based grades made me laugh. You can use so many similar arguments about the bigotry of this giving advantage to individuals with more free time, or that live closer to the classroom, or any other myriad of excuses.
Same goes for an airline pilot, or attorney, or plumber, etc. If you've had a bad plumber, you know how horribly things can go and quickly. The point is rewarding incompetence is rarely a path to success.
Instead of bringing everyone's standards up we want to bring everyone's standards down to the lowest achievers thinking it will be better for their feelings. It really has an astounding negative affect on society.
The Pareto Principle came from an observation that a minority of people produce the vast majority of accomplishments in society. The general rule is that 20% of the people generate 80% of the accomplishments. If we bring this 20% down to what the remaining 80% accomplishes, on average, this would reduce the overall achievements of society by 75%.
Just imagine an entire generation being graded not by the quality of work they put in but just that they actually showed to class and turned their work in…? And we expect them to be ready for the work force - a place that is getting increasingly automated
you are basically making the majority dumb in order to let the dumbest fit in Lol🙄😄 and we know how it ends, they made a movie about It, it's called Idiocracy.
The irony that he speaks eloquently while arguing against standardization in language proficiency
Yup. Let's see how well he'd be followed if he spoke in "Ebonics".... Get woke, go broke.
He's made his money, he has an agenda to fulfill for the rest.
@@stargazer2504 And ironically, "ebonics" has nothing to do with African heritage - it's origins lie in the English spoken by poor immigrants from England that lived the South during the time of slavery. See - Thomas Sowell, "Black Rednecks, White Liberals".
This country is out of control!
Idiocracy is looking more and more like a documentary
Take it and shove it. Find out how DEI had its roots in Communism by a lecture by Thomas Sowell before its banned by these Woke Marxists that have taken
over our Democratic Party.
Every time I see an ad for electrolyte tablets or powders I’m quickly reminded that we are on our way.
@@White000CrowOur crops need the Gatorade!
7:01 "Where has Marxian philosophy ever helped anyone?"
Perfect.
Stalin and Mao seemed to do really well. Their citizens paid a hefty price, but the leaders did really well.
“Professing to be wise they became fools.”
A lot of highly educated fools in our institutions of higher education nowadays
Thanks John
This is why this world is crumbling around us!
This guy is an embarrassment. You are a more patient man than I, John!
This guy is dangerous. Bad English is an instant condemnation of the speaker to second class status. We are constantly judged by how we present ourselves to the world, from our clothing ("clothes make the man") to our cleanliness, to our speech.
Exactly. He smiles and pretends to be nice because its all part of the act until he gets his views to be the majority. Then tyranny would ensue and his views and movement would fundamentality tear the Nation apart. Thats his obvious ultimate goal. To dismantle, and destroy our culture, and our way of life. People like him should have their citizenship revoked and be removed from America.
You're superficial, we get it.
Basically what he is saying is: "Work hard, not smart"
This is an old problem. My wife immigrated from Philippines 30 years ago. When our kids started school sometimes the teacher would send a note home, with English being my wife's second language she would correct the teachers note for spelling and grammar and send it back to the teacher.
That sounds like my german mom.
Lol, I'd bet those red-pen corrections stung like hornets.
Oddly enough, high school students in Japan, China and other foreign countries are reading our Western classics in English but many American students are too poorly educated to do so. It is truly a tragedy. By lowering standards to the lowest common denominator you get the lowest common denominator.
I think it’s lower than the lowest common denominator. The goal is to tear the culture down
You get the movie idiocracy coming to life that’s what
One of the things continued legal immigration in the States has done is give people a false sense of general American intelligence. Our numbers have fallen quite a bit as it is, but have been severely propped up by Chinese, Indian, Vietnamese, Nigerian, and many other extremely intelligent and hard working legal immigrants whose children give our overall education levels a boost in terms of worldwide comparison. Actual native white, black and Hispanic populations have been plummeting for decades and show no sign of slowing down. It's a shit show, and when disparities become too wide those ignoramuses will be looking for a scapegoat. Heaven help us...
How True
The problem with that argument is that Japan is reading the classics in an English that is incomprehensible to most people from native English-speaking countries.
I took many honors classes in high school and college. Had they not been available to me, I would have been held back artificially and quite bored. Many years later, my daughter graduated from college a year early due in large part to her having taken so many AP courses in high school. You elicit the best from people by having rigorous standards and teaching to a person’s ability.
I agree as something similar happened to me... once I was placed in advanced math, I took off into advanced physics etc. But I still stunk in language classes. Point being, you are what you are. Our children should be exposed to the "best that they can be", which means that overachieving shouldn't be leveled off like a cheese grater. It should be rewarded.
@@DarkMagic666 The Cheese Grater is all these Marxist muppets bring to the table. Despite all of their bullshit rhetoric about "equality" or "Compassion", all they want is control.
I had an instructor (a Jesuit who had taught at Loyola Marymount) who believed in teaching _above_ a person's ability, in order to make them reach for understanding.
You racist. How dare you make the most of your education.
A person who benefits from massive amounts of formal education and speaks in a clearly articulated standardized English wants to radically change the format of formal education and get rid of language standards.
Educators like this is why our nation is undeniably in decline educationally and morally!
Amen, and the fact that he was not immediately fired and black listed is another huge problem in and of itself!!
My goodness i wish we could get our country back on the right track-- theres no way in hell we can be a "superpower" with this ridiculously stupid crap going on!!
That dude is ignorant and it is upsetting that he is teaching kids, poisoning them with his nonsense. My black child had AP, Honors and Dual Enrollment classes with her ACT score being 31 or 32. She graduated from a high school with 4.11 GPA and finished college in 3 years not 4 because of that. Even though her parents divorced, and I was a working mom, I was very active in her schooling.
Yeah the whole "get rid of advanced classes to make smarter/more motivated kids tutor others" idea is a terrible one. One of several terrible ideas from this guy, but certainly striking.
@@nathanparker8555 agree, its simply a driver to mediocrity. The professor is a goose.
Thank you.
Hey, just wanna to say may your child be a successful person and make your proud. I sincerely hope that.
Marxists pit people against each other to gain power and influence.
Your child is one of the haves vs the have nots.
For this, her achievement, she must be punished. Just as the Kulaks in former Soviet Russia were punished and killed for their ability to actually be successful at feeding others without the collective.
The Marxists wish is to debase individual achievement to deconstruct our society.
Society receives more and more malcontents. People who only look for victimhood and someone to care for them due to the results of their own ignorance and life choices.
This “professor” is an abettor of educationists malfeasance in universities and the government schools. He is descended from Marcuse and those from the Frankfurt School who fled Germany just prior to WWII to remain alive. Only to spread across the US to destroy our culture through “Critical Theory”, as educationists throughout our universities and institutions.
They produce and embolden those who are the “have nots”,
"Students should have choices."The world is now officially insane.
Sure, as long as you're not talking about public school choice, they have'nt been parading that as much.
How ridiculous. Don't waste your money on college anymore.
How ridiculous! My parents came here from Mexico. Not only did they make me learn English but also Spanish, Italian and French so that I could communicate effectively.
Do you press #2 for Spanish?
Learning other languages is good, yet English is the language of the United States citizenry, and it is not ridiculous to mandate the students to learn it and try to master it. Of course mathematics, science, and history are also important. Sports is not academic and should not be held to any esteem by schools. That physical education is valuable pales in value in comparison, unfortunately many schools emphasize it over scholastic endeavors. Those schools administrators who place the emphasis on athletics are proving themselves unworthy of managing the schools, and the schools employing them should not be receiving any Federal or State tax dollars, but should be penalizing them instead.
@@StuartKlimek I remember my first customer service job. Dude with thick accent he says, "Why you have a "press 2 for spanish'. You here, you learn English. I learned English."
@@StuartKlimekmost college athletics are not the big money making machines like basketball and football. Kids want to play sports in college and have the ability are not the problem never have been and never will be.
@@StuartKlimek Except it is not. Technically, the US has no national language (some states do). The US should establish English already, but a certain political party has blocked these bills (take a wild guess who)
Stossel is the man.
But didn’t deny Capitalism is unequal?
So is happy to let people live like that ?
@@kylethedalek why would he deny it? It clearly does. That doesn’t mean every (or any) solution is automatically good. It isn’t necessary for something to be perfect in order for it to be better than anything else that has been tried or posited.
The fact that this man agreed to get embarrassed by the Sossel-nator is eye opening. It shows that these people actually believe the crap that they’re saying, which is even more scary in my opinion than someone being a grifter. The fact that he has enough influence to speak at a major educator conference is terrifying…
My good friend it's called hubris. Thanks for your comment by the way as we need to stand together.
It's an anti-truth cult, but they don't acknowledge it, even to themselves. Way back, leftists had their utopian vision, and their fanaticism fueled lies and propaganda. When postmodernism/deconstructionism came along in the 60s, and took off in the 70s and 80s, with its subjectivist/socially-constructed notions about the nature of truth, they could throw caution to the winds, and they didn't have to "lie" any more. Instead, they could "validate" whatever BS they wanted to according to their subjectivist/socially-constructed "truth."
-- Such a notion of "truth" does not accord with what normal people mean by the word, or with what they expect when they demand the truth. Such a notion of truth is a license to drink one's own Kool-Aid, and to indulge the delusions of the mentally ill. It is a gateway to self-delusion, on a vehicle of "my/our lived experience."
-- According to the organic evolution of natural language, "truth" signifies "objective truth." This is NOT the same as absolute truth, which is without any qualifications and is true for all time. Objective truth is true representations of reality within a system of representation, a system that depends on the objectification of reality, that is, rendering it as an accumulation of distinct objects, distinct from the perceiving subject and distinct from one another (such distinct objects are countable, and hence mathematized). Objectification distorts reality, but only marginally, and as long as one stays within the rules of the system, one can have truths that are true for any rational observer who is similarly situated. This is the basis for the replicability of experimental results that is crucial to the scientific method.
At least he showed up. Which is stupid on his part, because there is a damn good reason why, as Stossel mentions, these people generally refuse to debate. Listen to his argument. It's not falsifiable. It's fundamentally religious. Worst of all, its core ethos is to tear down everything, and replace it with [insert feeling].
@@amarissimus29 wise 🦉 comment
This guy is no different from any other modern intellectual. Inventing a problem and solving it is much easier than tackling real issues.
remember, forcing high potential kids to stay around and help low potential kids only helps everyone, even the high potential kids. It doesnt eat into high potential kids' ability to learn more. not at all.... This guy is so horrendously stupid, we know how he got his degree. Profs of rhetoric are like gender basket weaving studies professors. They're completely bull.
If you speak the native language of the country you live in...that's a benefit. He wants to say it isn't,so he can push his narrative. There's no such thing as good or bad English. There is only "proper" English.
If I were a student in the classroom, I put in a lot of effort to pass an exam or test and then I saw someone that clearly had errors, misspellings and other issues that got a grade equal to mine. I would have no incentive to work hard after that
The incentive would be to get real friendly with the person deciding the grades
I'm glad I live in suburban/rural North Carolina. My first grader is way ahead of her peers in reading and math, and instead of bringing her down to the average they challenge her with new work/rewards. The funny thing is she is still known to help the other kids on their assignments when they don't understand. To say she should never have honors classes available to her is to say I'll be finding a new school system
Homeschooling is a thing. But that would mean living humbly. Having the same phone for 4-5 years, driving older cars, living in a smaller home, etc. Most "adults" aren't willing to do that in America. Just keep showing your neighbors that you are just as good as they are. (in general, not you specifically).
@@mattbrown5511 homeschooling is, but that's why we chose to live where we do. I'd rather give my kids a good public school education in a wholesome community while also securing their financial futures. Still tough to balance but that's always the case when you have your cake and eat it too.
@@mattbrown5511 weird take. I'd say most people who send their children to public school aren't rich and have to do these things. Not sure what it has to do with homeschooling.
@@coryc9040 What it has to do with homeschooling is that most people will say it takes 2 incomes to live a "comfortable" life. And no, most people are not rich. However, most people spend way more than they have to on frivolous consumer items.
@@Ruckus45 Sorry Steve, but I don't trust the government with my child. Parkland and Uvalde showed the physical aspect of that. National curriculum shows the leftist indoctrination instead of education the children go through. But you do you.
These professors get an idea in their head and feel profound. Doesn't matter who proves them wrong or what we have learned from the past. To many so called professors take debate as a personal attack. It really is pathetic.
Narcissists. The dopamine hit of scoring woke points. And some students buy into it like a religion...becoming a band of woke zealots following their high priest.
"Just the other day I saw a guy die from listening to correctly spoken English" said no one ever.
You don't have to bathe everyday either but most people would appreciate it if you do. There are certain things you can do to increase your chances on succeeding in life.
Stossel in THE man.
Bathing is racist!
@@jbnichols9229 :-)
I took mostly honors classes in high school (and a couple AP classes my senior year), and there was a marked difference between the kids in those and the few standard classes I took. Demanding that we hold back kids capable of learning at accelerated rates so that they can do the teacher's job is a really great way of ensuring that no one gets ahead and that we are worse off overall
Also the professors point of honors kids "helping kids in the regular classes" makes no sense, because the kids in the regular class will likely want to cheat off the honors kids and the honors kids are likely on their phones just as much as the kids in the regular classes these days.
I and several of my fellow better behaved and intelligent students were forced to teach lower performing students at our public school. It was absolute hell - it lead to resentment, bullying and illness. One of my fellow students was so antagonized and stressed he developed an auto-immune disease in 7th grade. I developed panic attacks and anxiety. Students should never bear the burden of teaching. I learned nothing but how to avoid and resent others. I did learn how to educate myself because there was no “time” or energy to teach advanced students!
That's the goal. Injure those that succeed and work hard. They started trying this nonsense when my kids were in high-school. Not that it had any effect on my own children. Hahaha. But it was very hurtful for those kids who strived to achieve. It is a disgusting policy aimed at punishing achievement and success.
Unfortunately, it sounds great on paper to put “advanced” students with those that are not, etc.
However, as fellow teachers have said to me, it never works as intended - and the teacher has to spend more time with those that are struggling or slower for whatever reason - and can’t spend time with those that are more “advanced”.
Every student no matter what level of education - deserves to be taught & succeed by the TEACHER to learn, no matter what degree of help they need.
That's what Mao made Chinese university students do during the "cultural revolution". They were made to relocate to villages and teach the kids over there in between work shifts on the farms
The 'let the bright students help the dim students' bit has been thoroughly debunked in the literature. It doesn't help the dim students as much as it hurts the bright students (go figure - the bright students are not trained pedagogues). Thomas Sowell has looked into this extensively.
Well done, John. Very fair. Good debate. I love your work. Thank you so much!!
Even though he is crazy, respect for coming on Stossels show. As others would avoid any kind of confrontation with their belief.
These people deserve no respect, they rewrite social rules for their own benefit and destroy those who oppose them. They are wolves in sheeps clothing, hes a snake who is on here because hes so self conceited he thinks hes educating strossel