Proof: the derivative of ln(x) is 1/x | Advanced derivatives | AP Calculus AB | Khan Academy

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  • @sciencelover2342
    @sciencelover2342 7 лет назад +83

    I'm always amazed by seeing proofs like this. I feel like I could never think of a proof like this no matter how much time I had.

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    • @Geolas88
      @Geolas88 2 года назад

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      @ian.ambrose 2 года назад +2

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  • @elnetini
    @elnetini Год назад +7

    I was trying to remember the reason for this result and I finally found the demonstration. Very well explained. Thanks!

  • @supersnowva6717
    @supersnowva6717 Год назад +4

    This video helped me solve an algorithmic problem! Thank you Sal and Khan Academy! These videos will never get old!

  • @edbeck1029
    @edbeck1029 7 лет назад +10

    Very lucid presentation. Thanks. Very satisfying to understand. I used the equation (the one just before you make n substitutions) to prove to myself that the d/dx lnX= 1/X. I plugged a few x values into the n-less equation using 0.000001 for delta X and sure enough the resulting slope = 1/x. To me that was proof enough but I understand the intellectual challenge to show proof without having to plug a single X into the equation. One thing about the rest of your proof presentation (after n substitutions) that I found daunting even discouraging as a beginner calculus student is the seemingly spontaneous and intuitive choice to introduce n= delta X/X. I thought to myself, "man...I'll never get to the level where I can be that intuitive about proofs." But then I remembered recently watching another of your videos where you show that the derivative of e^x is e^x. You start out by defining e as the limit as n>infinity and n>0 with simple equations. Then your subsequent substitution of n into your proof made sense as you mentioned that you wanted to guide your proof to include some semblance of those introductory equations. So I'm encouraged that if I watch enough videos I'll start to build up a repertoire of "mini" proofs to follow even greater proofs.

  • @t.lnnnnx
    @t.lnnnnx 4 года назад +24

    why is this so cool to me

  • @zubesR
    @zubesR Год назад +1

    awesome video. I just would have loved to see how you could take "limit" from outside to inside of ln.

  • @hantuedan4541
    @hantuedan4541 Год назад +1

    Thanks for this material... I'm really appreciate it

  • @anna-vb5gr
    @anna-vb5gr 7 лет назад +3

    Thanks for helpful videos you helped me survive my school year last year !!!

    • @mamtarathod7914
      @mamtarathod7914 4 года назад

      But it's circular proof of 1^infinite

    • @mamtarathod7914
      @mamtarathod7914 4 года назад

      It's wrong
      It's just like that
      Are you proof why 2+1=3
      And assume 1+1=2

  • @killing_gaming0973
    @killing_gaming0973 2 года назад +1

    Ive been confused for a long time and now i understand

  • @jdlopez131
    @jdlopez131 5 лет назад +14

    e=(1+1/r)^r as r goes to infinite. Would you please explain how is it that (1+n)^(1/n) is also e? In all honesty, it checks out - I calculated it in R and it does approx. e. But, mathematically, how are they the same?

    • @ActicAnDroid
      @ActicAnDroid 5 лет назад +11

      Heuristically:
      Let n = 1/r. Then your limit, lim(r->inf)[1+1/r]^r is the same as lim(n->0)[1+n]^(1/n)

    • @jdlopez131
      @jdlopez131 5 лет назад +3

      @@ActicAnDroid oh you are right... I see it now

    • @inspectasexy1264
      @inspectasexy1264 2 года назад

      @@ActicAnDroid i don’t understand I keep getting back the number 1 for these equations

  • @alexv0009
    @alexv0009 7 лет назад +5

    Beautiful.

  • @sonicsensei1
    @sonicsensei1 10 месяцев назад

    Plz prove also
    lim(1+1/n)^n

  • @codex8797
    @codex8797 Год назад

    thanks bro, really helped me.

  • @xxxxxx-ef3lj
    @xxxxxx-ef3lj Год назад +1

    4:29 what if x is very close to zero, such as 0.00001?

  • @realkabirc303
    @realkabirc303 3 года назад +1

    It really helped me 😊👌👌👍👍

  • @deathwing6943
    @deathwing6943 3 года назад +1

    Amazing video

  • @harshvadher9234
    @harshvadher9234 2 года назад

    Georgeous sir.

  • @colinreinhardt
    @colinreinhardt 4 года назад +3

    the only thing not 100% clearly explained is moving the limit operation inside of the ln( ) function. Is this always OK? why?

    • @nivrak5411
      @nivrak5411 2 года назад +1

      It doesn't matter, As N only exists inside the ln()

  • @soju69jinro
    @soju69jinro 6 лет назад +6

    Out of respect and ignorance, lets suppose we didn't know what e^1 was, and we couldn't recognize that the lim as n approaches 0 of (1+n)^1/n was e^1. Then how else could we have proved the derivative of ln x?

    • @arsenron
      @arsenron 6 лет назад +2

      you can safely substitute n in parenthesis (1+n)^1/n to 0, as, if n approaches zero, in that case you can consider it as zero itself, so you get (1)^1/n, further you can consider 1/n as something infinitely big, as 1/0,000...1 approaches infinity, but n will never get zero itself, so 1 in any power will give you 1, then (1+n)^1/n magically becomes 1

    • @sakshamdobriyal9952
      @sakshamdobriyal9952 6 лет назад +1

      I know a better proof ask if u wanna know.

    • @darceysmyth6384
      @darceysmyth6384 6 лет назад

      @@sakshamdobriyal9952 plz this one isn't super clear

    • @ActicAnDroid
      @ActicAnDroid 5 лет назад +1

      @@arsenron
      Wrong lol

    • @arsenron
      @arsenron 5 лет назад

      @@ActicAnDroid shut your fart up, it is true. u dont have counterarguments, son of a clown.

  • @ousainousanyang4250
    @ousainousanyang4250 3 месяца назад

    God bless you

  • @ai2657
    @ai2657 Год назад +3

    Sir how to prove
    (1+n) ^(1/n) =e

    • @connorfr
      @connorfr 4 месяца назад

      did anyone figure this out?

    • @abouillet5147
      @abouillet5147 2 месяца назад

      @@connorfr no its wrong. [1+(1/n)]^n as n-> inf = e. It's sad because I've been trying to wrap my mind around the proof and I thought I'd finally found it but this is wrong.

    • @abouillet5147
      @abouillet5147 2 месяца назад +1

      @@connorfr RE: after further research, I was wrong. Khan as usual is right. The solution lies in Binomial Theorum. Similar to the proof for the power rule where terms in the BT collapse to 0 as we differentiate x->0, the same thing happens when you differentiate (1+n)^(1/n).
      Using binomial expansion, you obtain a set of terms in the form: e - e/2*n + 11e/24*2n .....
      All terms with a multiple of n collapse as n->0 leaving only e. Finally the derivate of e is e.
      Therefore 1/x * ln(e) = 1/x * 1 = 1/x.
      Khan was right. Wish he had explained that here, but probably beyond the scope of the video.

  • @chroma9848
    @chroma9848 7 лет назад +1

    love this

  • @anas8296
    @anas8296 2 года назад +2

    I am smarter, I am better

  • @joshiifruit5554
    @joshiifruit5554 2 года назад

    thankk youu

  • @GeoCalifornian
    @GeoCalifornian 6 лет назад +6

    Thank you for using delta x instead of that silly variable “h” that modern texts use.
    /Regards

    • @sakshamdobriyal9952
      @sakshamdobriyal9952 6 лет назад

      lol

    • @pointlesslylukesplainingpo1200
      @pointlesslylukesplainingpo1200 4 года назад

      H makes it easier and less confusing imo but ok

    • @GeoCalifornian
      @GeoCalifornian 4 года назад

      @@pointlesslylukesplainingpo1200 --The problem is that "h" is a variable in algebra, while "delta-x" is a distance in algebra, and distance is the key to understanding differentiation.
      /Lonewolf Liberties

  • @educationskilldevelpment8923
    @educationskilldevelpment8923 6 лет назад +1

    A ton of thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @luongmaihunggia
    @luongmaihunggia 2 года назад

    The derivative of ln(x) is not defined when x is negative but 1/x is defined for when x is negative

    • @anawilliams1332
      @anawilliams1332 2 года назад

      if were being specific its 1/x with domain (0, infinity)

  • @ЕвгенияЛысенко-у4н
    @ЕвгенияЛысенко-у4н 7 месяцев назад

    Why is it that e is (1+n)^(1/n) and not (1+1/n)^n ?

  • @orang1921
    @orang1921 2 года назад

    7:48
    See, the only problem I have is that there is a power of 1/0. How can you get rid of that?

    • @redpug5042
      @redpug5042 2 года назад +1

      there isn't a power of 1/0 because you aren't reaching 0
      you're taking the limit as n goes closer and closer to 0, but you never get to 0.

    • @paniniman6524
      @paniniman6524 Год назад

      the definition of e is (1+1/inf)^inf. inf can be viewed as lim x->0 1/x

  • @Mryeo5354
    @Mryeo5354 5 лет назад +4

    after a day of thinking I searched up the proof, apparently I wasn't far of. I had done everything up to the n part :(

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    • @Matt-vv1iv
      @Matt-vv1iv 2 года назад

      @@du42bz Oh no I'm old now. Good luck with classes!

  • @jdlopez131
    @jdlopez131 5 лет назад

    can you prove why dy/dx of ln(a) = a'/a?

    • @jdlopez131
      @jdlopez131 5 лет назад

      Oh, no need. It suddenly came to me.

  • @jyl123
    @jyl123 6 лет назад

    oH Am ghEE!

  • @UrDadisMe
    @UrDadisMe 7 лет назад

    Good video