Fake Hot Wheels Super Treasure Hunt Prototypes | Hot Wheels
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- Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2017
- Don't get ripped off! Fake Hot Wheel Super Treasure Hunt Prototypes and Unspun Hot Wheels are being sold around the world and too many people are being taken advantage of. Watch this episode of Hot Wheels TV that shows and tells what's real and what's not!
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Why I don't buy supers from Malaysia from ebay, I don't support thieves, this hobby is not about selling cars, NO!, this hobby is about meeting other collectors, helping each other out etc, thanks for the info I hope this video gets out there
Camaro Collector98 that's true my friend
Thank you for this information, it is incredible that 6 years after this video, they are still selling this type of prototypes, even with the main line series
Nice Video! I totally agree! A lot of fakes out there! Be careful.
They are nothing but a bunch of thieves, taking advantage of unknowing buyers. I hope everyone sees this video, buyers & sellers, too. Thanks for the info Mike.
Thanx Donnie! I hope they do too!
Donnie, do your homework brother, Mattel and several of their designers have a bit of a checkered past too. See for example the case in which Mattel was accused of stealing graphics and other design cues for a customized racing truck from a gentlemen's website. See the case FJ40 Baja Edition design. Mattel was accused of stealing a trademarked design, website graphics, and trade dress from those Baja racers. Not the only story and not the only case in which Mattel designers and guys on lower level design teams have been accused of stealing ideas from customizers who bring stuff to conventions. There use to be a handful of websites where customizers showcased their best stuff. Come to find out Mattel designers had a hand in creating the websites. For the purpose of stealing design cues. I can't support thieves either. But if you think Mattel designers design everything from their own heads, you've got to be kidding me. :-)
i one hundred percent agree with you, did you say bob ross? I didn't know he made hot wheels I bet they are full of happy accidents :)
Bob Rosas was a Hot Wheels designer way back and yes, he has a lot of way kool stuff they would make from back then!
oh cool I love this channel because its always a history lesson!
So these are literally hot wheels since the parts are stolen ......
well said mike i agree with you
Although I agree with you, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a market for these "factory customs" in the future. Like it or not, it's a part of hot wheels history and people love collecting unique pieces of hot wheels history.
There is a market and people are paying way too much for them. They are just cars that are stolen from the line....
I tend to look at Hot Wheels cars like I look at paint canvases. Some of these custom cars coming off of the lines are as beautiful if not more beautiful than what Mattel higher-ups legitimately commission to be made. These "guys on the lines" have imagination's too. Just because they sling Hot Wheels together for a living does not mean they aren't still artists or imagineers . Some days I think designated designers could take a cue from the boys in the back. Their "factory freak" designs or whatever you guys want to call them, are still attracting attention. If people are willing to pay those kinds of prices for something an anonymous unsung factory worker slung together, that should tell Mattel something. Yes, Mike is right in a way, not everyone can be a "designated designer." I am sure Mattel is not happy that "their ideas" are getting shown up by those "nobodies in the back." I am also certain that customizers who bring their own designs to conventions and shows are not happy that designated Hot Wheels designers and guys on lower level design teams have more than once been accused of stealing ideas. Many artists have claimed that designers have come to view their work in person at conventions while "looking for inspiration." That seems pretty interesting! One could interpret that as "I'm here to steal your ideas." I mean the artists that these designated designers have taken ideas from don't get the credit. Once upon a time, there were a few pages where customizers showcased their work out in the open only to have their ideas duplicated by Mattel. I have heard more than enough stories to know that it all goes both ways. If you think everything Hot Wheels designers design comes from their own heads, you better think again! The casting itself might be unique,. But in reality, castings are just shapely canvases. I hear one statement from collectors more than anything else when it comes to customized creations... "That is the way Hot Wheels should have done it!" I think it is high time Willy Wonka opened the doors to his dilapidated chocolate factory and let new imagination's in. Hot Wheels brining back Barbie Corvettes? Really?
You sir Should be a defense attorney because what you just argued is 100% correct!! Before reading your comment i was totally one sided and judgemental towards those "factory customizers" and now im on the fence about it... Yes its wrong what they are charging for them and the false advertisement they are using for their monetary gain but i absolutely see their sids of it now too
BOOM!!! Mushroom of truth!!! Great vid!!
Another great video!
kudos to you Mike !
thanks for putting this video out I'm hoping a lot of people see it !
Me too! I don't like it when unsuspecting collectors get taken advantage of.
I refer "lunch box" hot wheels to Malaysians that sneak Supers out of the factory with their lunch boxes lol. There are times where I'll see a sought after Super with different wheels on eBay for ridiculous prices. It's sad sometimes...
thanks for sharing this video.
And they are calling it a Variation or Employee Custom.
And by the way.... they can't take them out in their lunch boxes anymore. So if you have one.... I would wash my hands really well.... LOL....
Hey Mike, I think the best way to alert eBay buyers is to create a PSA message on eBay. Lots of people make test listings that say "do not bid" and set the buy it now price at a ridiculous amount. An attractive picture of one of those "Unspun Prototypes" With the words Do Not Bid in the description, a really high buy it now price, and a nice PSA message alerting potential buyers that most of those unspun cars are definitely not prototypes but customs and are in most cases stolen assembly plant parts. Might make people think twice about bidding on them.
Ok great video that's what I am talking about. Don't need to see another case unboxing information from the man thank you Mike best video yet !!! 👍👍
I wouldn't pay big bucks for them but I was wondering, if Mattel really wanted to stop this from happening couldn't they install cameras in their factories?
Different country's, different rules! You know if it was in the USA, they would be fired in a heartbeat!
Hot Wheels TV Oh ok, I thought they'd still have control there too.
One would think, but unfortunately no.
Omg! Transformers hot wheels oh I would love to have my hands on that!😍.
Great Mike, really nice to see discussion on topics like this. Information (reliable) can be a bit thin on the ground.
I try.... Thanx for watching!
Well said. And thank you for saying it!
Excellent topic!
I'm glad that you bring this up.It's so annoying,these 'prototypes'
Yes they are and to a whole bunch of other collectors too! Thanx!
Great video,thanks for the warning!! Keep up the great work!!!
Good point u are making,and they also stealing from the factrory super treasure hunts and then selling them on Ebay from Malasya!!
Yup! Not Kool at all when collectors are getting ripped off!
@@HotWheelsTV Where can i find you e-mail adress,i want to show u some cool errors?!
@@dimon83fi I would love to see what you found! My email is on the "About" page when you click my page. They won't let me post it here....
2 thumbs up Mike. If I haven't seen it hanging on the pegs, on a box opening video , or verified it through you or other people in the know I wouldn't search for it. This is also the reason I don't do errors, unspun etc. I have had many a loud discussion about those supers that we know were faked as well as people getting supers no the ahead of schedule. I hope this video helps at least one person realize what's going on
Thanx Dave! I'm hoping people will pay attention and not get taken!
As good around this time as the 1st. Keep them informed.
Great video! Hope it helps folks not get taken by such fakes! Thanks for your knowledge.
Thanx! That's why I did it! I was getting inundated with emails from collectors asking about cars they were buying for 100's of dollars and not seeing them anywhere.... Or wondering why their Super was different than the one they were seeing on the Mattel pages.
Hi Mike. Thanks for the video on this issue. I steer clear of Malaysian Hot Wheels sellers on ebay for this exact reason. It is a real sad thing, because Malaysian people are very nice and this really tarnishes everyone with the same brush. Unfortunately you also get buyers from other countries importing these from the Malaysian sellers and then reselling them in their country as "unspun prototypes" or legitimate supers. I noticed from observations that a lot of these models tend to have scratches or imperfections on them, which to me suggests they are possibly factory rejects that have been re-purposed? Cheers =)
Very true! It's a shame that it's come to this.
Remember unless its taped, glued or has the FEP tag then its not a real prototype.
Yup...
Open eyes
Scammers and scalpers are ruining the hobby. I don't buy any treasure hunt or variations online. Off the pegs like they were meant to be found. Happy Hunting !!!!!!
Great rant. Thanks for speaking out.
I do what I can. Thanx for watching!
Same with Real Riders that are sold on eBay from Malaysia... Grab a handful of wheels & throw them on eBay!
Those are the ones I'm talking about....
Really useful video, especially for people who are willing to pay an awful lot of money for things _they think_ are prototypes even if they're not sure about them on know little or nothing about prototypes. Thanks Mike.
Welcome John! That's the idea. I don't want anyone getting taken advantage of!
Can we get an update on any issues that may be ongoing? New collector, curious if this is ongoing, if the issue has grown or shrunk at all. Thank you.
Still happening... Beware of what you buy..
So true Mike.
That transformer VW Van is beautiful
I’ve only started collecting since August of this year 2017 and I knew there was something fishy about Super Treasure hunts for sale on eBay from Malaysia well before their case delivery. I agree: it’s theft and Mattel needs to do something about it. I’m not into prototypes but it’s good information-thanks Mike!
Mattel has tried many times but to no avail. Different countries are hard to deal with it comes to some things.
Has Mattel done anything with their factory to address the issue? Seems like there are more and more of these every year.
They have tried in many ways to take care of the issue, but have not been successful.
That is too bad. Sounds like some extreme security measures are needed!
I toataly agree with what you said it sounds like a lot of people have some people have some screws loose
Mattel should be enforcing their proprietary property rights aggressively to protect their consumer!
The consumer should always do their do-diligence. They are stolen property and Mattel has cracked down. So if you have one, make sure you wash your hands.... There is only one way of getting them out of the factory....
How about those cars that have different wheel variations or tampo errors? Those weren't part of the schedule neither. How about those cars that weren't STH or TH but came in a card that has a TH logo or had the TH logo on the tampo, like for example most recently the Fiat 500 which had the TH logo on the card but wasn't a STH? Or how about those cars which have the TH logo as part of the tampo, but are not considered TH? Pretty sure those weren't part of the production schedule, yet were still produced and nothing was said by Mattel, and yet they're considered errors or variations on price guides. As much as I might agree with some that say that these factory workers are stealing, we must ask ourselves as to way this is happening? We all know that they get paid pennies compared to a normal factory worker in the US. Some might say 'you gotta do whatcha gotta do to put food on the table', and seeing what they get paid to work there, I really cant blame them. Mattel can come up with some ideas on how to control this and yet they turn their heads. This industry is so fast paced, where employees have to have a quick hand eye coordination in order to keep the lines running, I'm not surprised they're able to sneak some out without no one noticing. Totally agree with Cvetteman1111, designers run out of ideas and end up being copycats sometimes, instead of taking a page off the ideas they see and creating something of their own which ends up looking better, much like what customizers do. Personally I would know what a prototype is or looks like. Mattel came up with their own "prototype" series which in my opinion was as ridiculously priced as the "fakes" we see on the internet. I like unspun stuff and I try to find some of them online, but I also control my own budget and don't go into a bidding war just to have it. Just my two cents...
Errors and variations are cars that were actually produced and not stolen and sold as something they are not. They are also only .94 and not $300 or $400. We can argue this for hours (which I don't have). This episode is to inform collectors what the truth is about the cars they are seeing for sale that are not what they are told they are. I have people write me AFTER they buy one and then ask me about it and get really upset that they spent all that money on something that is a bunch of stolen parts with no value. And Mattel does have a task force to curtail this problem . When they get caught, they get fired, but then someone else does it only because there are people that will keep buying this stuff. ... And by the way... If you have any of these cars, I would wash my hands if you've touched them. How do you think they're getting them out of the building when there is a metal detector...????
I have combat medic with treasure hunt logo but it's not treasure hunt lmao, also one of my favorite youtuber had a car with treasure hunt logo but its not lmao :v
@@HotWheelsTV what about the loose treasure hunts you see on eBay they usually come out around the same time as the super came out are they the guys putting them together also stealing the stuff to make them look same the never carded I always thought they were fakes they look identical but loose from Malaysia and guys buy them up like crazy they are usually out a little before I can’t stand people that do that stuff even pallet raiders and inside store jobs I live in Ontario Canada and we don’t got to many stores so it’s about 20 times harder to find a super here than in USA were you got every store selling them I got out of collecting because of the greed no one wants to trade ther all in it for the money I think that’s wrong also if I find two supers or a reg treasure hunt I will look for a kid and give him a super and the reg and explain to him how to find and what to look for I can’t stand adults that get in front of the kids and block them out so the kid has no chance if the kid had a super treasure hunt the adult would prob try to trade him a normal hotwheel for it it’s all about the dollars now and that makes me mad the employees that hide them for ther friends they have fired employees for doing that here at toys are us and Walmart we still have a few toys r us but only a few are only store is Walmart now so it’s really wrecked things for the collector oh well
good video!!!
Thank you!
Yep i got dun on the white 620 datsun there selling in aussie land too
Sorry to hear that...
How about the hundreds upon hundreds of stolen Super Treasure Hunts both spun and unspun on Ebay by STH sales in particular. Mattel does nothing and I bet only half of STH 's make it to America.
Yes.... there are many of them! Mattel tries, but as soon as one guy is gone, another picks up where they left off.
I really love your videos, I’m a huge fan of your work. Thanks for the educational video about it. You could also explain how to identify a real one. Something like certificates, paperwork etc. thanks!
Telling the real ones from the fake ones take a lot of knowledge and that's why myself and others are taking the time to do it. As far as a certificate of authenticity, you should NEVER buy anything that is of that nature without getting proof from the designer or a Mattel official. If it can't be proven, it's just a custom....
Perfect explanation!!! This video is really important and informative. Thank you so much! As a fan of your work, I'm honored to receive this reply.
@@HotWheelsTV good words to live by 👍
Thanks for the info Mike, I hope to get to meet you at Nationals in April 2018.....Question on Prototypes...Is there a way to know what is fake?...I'm not into them but would like to know what to look out for....
Looking forward to meeting you as well Mark! The most important thing about Prototypes is getting a Certificate of Authenticity. If you are going to pay a lot of money for a piece that is believed as a piece of Hot Wheels history, it should have a provenance. Without that, it's useless as a historical artifact.
agree 👍👍
Scammers will be scammers. It’d be nice if Mattel got a handle on those line workers. All these supers already out there months before the cases hit stores, there’s obviously a lot of theft going on.
The problem is, once they get rid of that guy, someone else will do it. A couple hundred dollars is a heck of a lot of money over there I'm sure.
Hot Wheels TV that’s true.
Mattel isn’t pissed off at all because it still goes on to this day. Mattel doesn’t do anything to stop it nor do they care. If they cared, it would be easy to stop.
@kippnashleymiller3752 They are very pissed... Fire one person and another picks up where they left off...
where can I get the Transformer set from?
I doubt there are any available. Chris Walkers stuff is very limited and sells out quickly. Look up Nightstalker Customs. www.alienprojects.com/nshome1.htm
good vids
Thanx!
Who you callin' "some guy"? I have a name! Robert Paulson!
Hi Robert. Which guy are you?
Hot Wheels TV haha, that was a joke. Robert Paulson is Meatloaf's character on Fight Club. My name is Zach Mansur and this was a very informative video!
Oh.... Thanx Zach! I love Meatloaf and didn't know that he was in that movie. I'll have to watch it! Thanx!
AGREE!
well said, popular trends now is sellers are selling unspun models
Yes, and it's so easy. Just grab it before it gets to the spinner...
I dont think theres a diffrence between "model shop guys and assembly line guys work. The both use hot wheels parts to put togather something cool and diffrent. They just need to advertise it correctly.
FACTORY CUSTOM.
There is a HUGE difference between people stealing parts from the assembly line and selling them and someone in the "Model Shop" designing and MAKING the parts. And that is why I did that episode.
It's just like the people that make counterfeit sports memorabilia and counterfeit money.
Oh yeah! Our hobby is no different. The unscrupulous ones see a market to cash in on and dive right in!
How hard or easy it is to distinguish a real 95 white camaro super th to the most counterfeited hot wheels ever the 95 White Camaro Super TH?
Hey Mike remember what PT Barnum said?
Oh Yeah! And it's so true!
😂😂😂😂
Yeah... make sure you smell them before you buy them... 🤣
Found something even worse than these fake supers, found some blatant knock offs that are called hot wheel. the cards are a joke the front has shark bite, bubble gummer and another hot wheels casting on it. they use all sorts of old cards from other toys some say they transform on the back and loads of other rubbish. They also have plain bases and what look like old matchbox wheels.
Yes, I have seen a few of these and actually have a couple. It seems they do it quickly, sell a lot and by the time Mattel gets to them, they close up. They've made their quick money and move on. You know it's really easy to do in some countries that it's hard to track these type of things down.
If your not racing for pink slips and hanging it on a wall....what is the difference ? Just knowing its not real.... i miht knkw that ...but 20 of my friends dont hahahahaahahaahahaah
It's the people that pay $300 US for one thinking that it's real...
lol I am the 4000th viewer and the FIRST like ??
That's kinda weird....?
Wait it’s only factory right?
No... It's stolen parts from the factory.
@@HotWheelsTV oh
Factory Code 3
Yes Eddie! Code 3 all the way!
Hot Wheels TV I figured mike.
I agree 100 percent with you
Please make a video of showing us what to look for andhow to tell a real from a fake super treasure hunt
son people has destroy Colectivo, sale car for i lot is fake used the name mattel has educate people what real deal was no is acar is no real mattel you right
My girlfriends little brother had about 100 hot wheels cars that he gave to my daughter. We were playing with them and I noticed this really cool funny car. When I went online to find current funny cars for sale, I saw what looks like my exact car selling for hundreds!!! It looks like the 271 blue funny car. Is there a way to authenticate it? He would have been 7 in 1995, so the dates match up for someone who just got it to play with. Really interested if someone could tell me if it's real.
Once it's out of its 271 package it has no value.
What if there is no production number on the base?
As to what or when? If there is no control number on one of these so-called Employee Customs, it can't be traced to the day it was snagged from the line.... Is that what you are asking?