6:17 Sam (he/him) - Atheist | Caller wants to talk about determinism and quantum mechanics. 23:42 Geo (he/him) - Theist | Caller claims that atheism is "the belief in not having a belief" and claims to have "a million and one ways" to defend faith. 1:08:03 Cloud (he/him) - Atheist | Caller wonders which bible translation is reliable. 1:19:10 Richard (he/him) - Theist | Caller is a polytheist and he asks hosts: "what is it that you're opposed to, that makes you skeptical of it?" 2:15:40 Frank (he/him) - Atheist | Caller claims that he doesn't "subscribe" to the "idea" of trans people's identity, and asks some questions to hosts about it. [Yeah, dude should've just call TACIS or whenever Forrest is on, like Sam did about quantum mechanics, and like Richard did calling when Aaron is on.] 2:33:18 John (he/him) - Atheist | Caller is deconstructing and struggling with the concept of "there is no meaning to life," so he asks for some advice from hosts. [Much love to Caller
I HATE when people say faith is the same as trust.😶 Faith is DESPITE evidence. Trust is BECAUSE all the evidence, so far, shows you CAN believe it. How is that so hard ? They also think believing that stuff is real, ( god, bigfoot etc ) is the default position you should hold. ( ie- I think Bigfoot & god is real, unless "they" show me he's totally not real ) Youre not supposed to believe/ think something till there is a sound reason. 😁🌏☮️
Aron Ra is starting to be my favorite debater with The Line. His calmness and his ability to explain terms in the face of blind and faith based people, without losing his shit, should be admired
Richard: Logic and reasoning brings you the conclusion of God's. Richard later: Logic and reasoning has limitations in response to hosts reasoning for not believing.
Also gods a unsolvable mysteries. Ok cool. You stop solving mysteries and sit in your reason corner. The rest of us will continue exploring the room. Maybe we will join you in the corner one day, but it seems cramped and boring for now.
I still can't believe how many callers, and people in general, go from "No one can explain how (fill in the blank)" to "I know how (fill in the blank)."
We'll no one knows, right? But I mean its obviously a disembodied, omnipresent mind that decided to create us, for no particular reason, at some point during it's eternal existence, then became its own son, sacrificed itself to itself, hates gay people and foreskins for some reason. Its completely obvious! You're just in denial and probably hate jesus if you disagree, tbh.
@@SquidwardQSaganThey don't think they did make that leap, that's the crux of it. *Because there is no need to explain (fill in the blank). God works in mysterious ways, and we mere humans have no way to understand his infinite wisdom. Even trying to (fill in the blank) is misunderstanding our place in the universe as subjects of a creator God. It is a sound argument from the theist, it's just not valid (or vice versa 🤔).
Yo mama's a bitch, lol. That call escalated so quickly. It was hilarious. I was laughing my ass off. Arden's comment about her dick made me laugh so hard that beer came out of my nose.
I really don’t think he was a troll.. - I just really honestly think he’s a simpleton who has no idea he’s a simpleton so he thinks he sounds smart lol
@@bms77 then go back and listen to the episode where he calls in as “Isando” and at the end of the call engages in the epic “Joe mama is a bitch” battle before they hang up on him
Geo at the start of the call: I've only listened for an hour Geo at 54:10 : everyone who listens to your show is stupid Aside from being plain rude, I'm pretty sure he just exposed his own lie about not watching the show.
I started my day with a Higher Power. I'm not even kidding, I woke up, turned on my computer, and played Boston's Higher Power. I probably caught the thumbnail and that caused the song to pop into my head.
As an electrician, I have spent many days with a higher power. Only difference it's real, and actually deserves respect unlike some make believe god freak!!
HAHAHAHAAHAHAA OH MY MAO ZEDONG THAT WAS SO FUNNY HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAVE YOU CONSIDERED A CAREEER AS A COMEDIAN? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL LOL LOL HAHAHAHAHA
I'm 99% certain Geo is Izondo; the caller from several months ago who decided only a handful of women in the entire world could beat him at basketball. I'm also certain that he's also a caller who called Atheist Experience a bit ago too, who had some completely ridiculous stance about LGBTQIA+ and pedophilia. He is really bad at disguising his voice, and he has a couple of 'tells' whenever he starts getting heated with certain phrases.
I'll have to go back and listen, but I remember Izondo x3 He was the guy who described any woman that could beat him at a sport would be "one in a million". A truly silly little boy.
According to pdf file atheist prophet Mad Pedolahunty, there's nothing wrong about incest. And this is divine revelation, so atheists have to believe this without questioning. Now, following that same logic, What is then wrong about necrophilia and cannibalism? Who are harmed when atheists bone dead people then eat them?
It always makes me so happy when I hear somebody else saying, "I don't see why there has to be any particular special meaning to life." It so often feels like when I talk about that kind of thing in my own life, I have to carefully dance around what I actually think about that kind of thing because so many people are so doggedly obsessed with the idea that it becomes, "Well, you're shallow if you're not seeking meaning." (At least, that's the way it feels sometimes.) And meanwhile, I'm just thinking, "Well, I seek fulfillment, wellbeing, and enrichment in my life, and I hope I can help others achieve the same, but I don't see how any of those things require capital-M Meaning."
Theists will never understand the difference between "it's impossible" and "you don't GET TO SAY it's possibile" until there's evidence. Geo doesn't get it.
I like to say a Zeus might be a philosophical possibility .....but u can't count it in the realm of possibilities for causing a particular lightning strike if u can't demonstrate Zeus exists in the first place ......and the same goes for Yahweh and making universes
Like... when pdf file atheists claim as absolute truth that men can give birth and then nowhere in history has this been true, and no other evidence points in that direction either?
Is it even possible to find an atheist who is not pdf file? So far... the search has been unsuccessful. It's almost like... such atheist doesn't exist.
@@ereyes6718don't feel too bad, I live in Ohio and it's not much better here. This state went from a battleground, swing state that often went blue to a deep red state.
@@ereyes6718 yes it does. I have a guy right down the street from me that has a huge F Biden flag and a Let's go Brandon sign right in front of his house. I can't even count how many Trump flags and signs we have in our neighborhood.
Yep. I had that thought also. And "I bin [been] through car accidences" is another great line. It's up there with "I believe one thousand percent". It's calls like this that remind me of Ricky Gervais(sp?)'s line, "Being dead is like being stupid. It only hurts for other people." The Idiocracy is coming! (And just in case anyone is knee-jerking, no Idiocracy was not a documentary. A documentary is a documentation of something that has already happened. Idiocracy was social commentary and a prediction. The fact that some people think it was a documentary only lends weight to it's predictive qualities.)
Trust: I know planes function, I know pilots are trained, so I believe that I can survive this flight. Faith: No human ever used their arms as wings, our bones are too heavy, we don´t have wings, but I believe God will let me fly if I jump.
The difference between faith and trust is evidence and the ability to change ones mind faith is taken a position on something without evidence and then you defend that position in spite of evidence whereas you trust something because of evidence and if that evidence changes and/or is wrong you can drop your trust.
I won't say Geo is stupid, but he said a LOT of aggressively stupid things. That was like an AXP call from 2007. Blows my mind that tbat went on for 40 minutes. Richard was a close second. The lengths people will go to to defend literal mythology range from yelling absurdities to calmly stating absurdities. There really isn't much else for them to do when empiricism deserts them.
It's like they don't have a leg to stand on. Weird. I wonder why, when so many people claim to have evidence of a god, people have such a hard time giving explicit evidence of a god.
@@xanthipussofsparta6555 but do you have 100% evidence or do you take it on faith, which could also mean trust, cause you don't know nothing and you were not there personally? 😂
Watching Aron Ra slowly zoning out as Sam (he/him) in MA prattled on and on (and on) about quantum determinism was priceless. I'm talking about freezing the frame count at the 19:13 mark. That is more or less the exact same expression I make over smug presuppositionalists (read: garden variety) and the entire Babies-Are-Born-Atheists trope.
If we accept that "random" can be used synonymously with "unplanned" ... _are we obliged to attribute the (purported) existence of Yahweh to randomness?_
It is so hard to listen to Aron talk about trans issues… I really wish he would just say, “call the Trans-Atlantic Call-in Show” and then move on to a new caller.
"I am he as you are he as you are me, And we are all together". I like this guy. All three are just going in circles. Does it even matter if the Gods are real, or made up. What is real? This is fun.
Aron should do a show with a co-host named Aaron who happens to also be an RN. Aron could also showcase one of his birds in his background, I suggest a wren.
I'm unsure if there is a correlation between adrenally fueled speech and religious narcissism, but Richard is sipping the high octane boost of his own specialness.
54:13. MaDude.... At the beginning of this call, you were new to the show and only listened for an hr or so.... And now you gonna talk about ALL the other callers?
I was TRYING to get a blood sacrifice ritual going but, as Aron said, the cloud cover was pretty thick here. And I just can’t chase people like I used to. Headdress gets heavy.
When it comes to religion, "Faith" is often a synonym for "Loyalty". They're expecting their master to show up one day and reward them for being loyal when reason tells them their religion does not match reality.
@Geo, I have "faith" that my car will start tomorrow, that is based on the fact that I take care of it, I drove it yesterday, it has gas in it, etc. Do I "know with 100% certainty" that it will? No. There are millions of things that could happen. BUT, I am 100% sure that when I turn the key if it does start, it will drive and NOT fly. Religion says, "You have never seen this happen and I have no reasons I can give you for it to happen, but you should believe that it is true and will happen because we told you to". Would you believe that your car will fly tomorrow because your priest told you to? What if they told you that God says it will? You are basically putting the opposite assertion that I can't PROVE my car WON'T fly tomorrow and that because I have "faith" that it will drive that I am somehow wrong.
You don’t have faith your car will start, you have evidence. Most cars in service start most of the time, and I presume your car has a near-perfect track record of starting without considering other cars. If those things weren’t true and evident, you would be irrational to believe your car would start.
And Richard also demonstrates what I say when the universe is in doubt someone is either trying to fool yourself or make you doubt yourself just enough that a god term definition or idea
Did anyone else notice how Geo started off the call with saying he didn't like when theists use the "were you there?" argument but near the end yells "were you there?" at Aron several times.
LOL Richard can't even read HIS OWN study! Guy doesn't even know the definition of the terms he is using. That he initially wanted to act like he was above everyone else is PERFECT Dunning-Kruger! Chefs kiss perfection I can't eat another bite.
"Give me an example of something mental causing something physical." Placebo effect; traumatic psychological experiences changing the physical structure of the brain...
Richard what is "fundamental matter" meant to be, when we talk about fundaments in normal day talks, it is something on which to build a structure or an argument. And fundamental parts are the basic parts. What are YOU talking about in your philosophy
Having the double dose on Sunday was spectacular. Matt, Paul, Aron, and Aaron. I don't know if it was a one time thing, but it was a great surprise. Get better, Jimmy!
Aron is not for those begginer aplogogists. He's waaay over their heads. If you're calling for the first time, I suggest you find someone on the line who has more patient for kindergarden level apologists.
That Temptress looks good, probably can't get up on the east coast. I hope you can try Oscar Blues Double Dales IPA and Grey Sail Captains Daughter IPA, its obvious you will need it.
If Gezondo thinks people don’t tend to blame God for results, he doesn’t watch his sports. And that makes sense after he said that only “one in a million” women can beat him at sports.
Geo doesn't seem to understand that the word faith is being used differently, I don't have faith that my car isn't going to explode when I get in it tomorrow, I have tons of evidence that makes this an unlikely event, such as cars exist, lots of people use cars every day and explosions are extremely rare. Geo is like most people who make this same equivocation fallacy, they don't seem to be aware of all the prior evidence they have for mundane events and then think its the same for a god when it's painfully obvious that they have zero evidence for god, you can't even show that a god is possible let alone responsible for anything.
I read that, scrolled up to look at Aaron again, and had to laugh _"Our next caller wants to talk about how skepticism is just lying to yourself. You're on The Line with Bigfoot and Deadpool, let's get into it."_
@@Deutsch-um6rt Aaron really does look like Ryan Reynolds with a beard, and Aron has a story about being mistaken for Bigfoot on a back country road one night
1:19:00 Caller Philosophy is a waste of time to circle jerk around in circles how do we know in other dimension realms maybe even other universes that 2 + 2 = 4 ???? Equals God.
Geo you said: when we invest in something we need to have "faith". It's a way to say we have faith in the project, not god. We do need market research team, marketing team, finance analysis team, network and customer service team to improve CHANCE of success of a project investment. We spend time, money, and work to check the advantage and disadvantage of project before invest in it. Sometimes the project has low chance to success (profitable) 40%-50%, below 40% chance no one want invest into it, 40% still success, we say the faith help us. It's not literally god, it's the work of everybody
Religion is community, psychodrama, aesthetics, placebo effect, and symbolism. Its best to acknowledge that upfront and embrace it, rather than believe supernaturalism. Materialist nihilist satanism is your best bet for the religiously minded.
I am training myself away from the word "confidence", and replacing it with "certainty", "degrees of certainty".. due to the Latin roots "con" and "fide" ("with.. faith").
Frank, there was no issue with Dillahuntys comparison. If you are trying to figure out if you are hungry, you trust your own mind on that. If you are trying to determine if another person is hungry, you ask them. Some people express their state of being hungry some dont. Some are more obvious about it than others.
I don't get the prefix suffix thing either about trust and faith: for instance 'disabled' has the prefix 'dis' and the suffix 'ed'. But how does this relate to trust and faith? Mistrustful? Unfaithful?
Matter is an image of the real real. To our life and understanding and ability to interact, matter is matter. Whatever god reality has for matter is irrelevant
I think that guy could have made a better argument if he'd described the trinity as 3 separate gods working together to form the world. Not a literally "dream" but more like a shared vision of how they wanted their project to turn out. It's kind of similar to what I think of when they say god is outside of time. It seems more like they would be outside of our perception of time but would still have their own. Like how a fly which has a shorter lifespan might experience time differently than we do.
30:20 talking about how God would have to coordinate every human action on the planet in order to facilitate like answered prayers or God looking out for someone, it made me wonder if it could be mathematically calculated roughly how many different actions he would have to account for while letting some people go about their lives while ensuring certain people stumble into whatever scenario that was planned for them.. with 8 billion people to coordinate, it seems almost infinitely complicated to set up certain situations without eventually running into problems that arise down the line via free will and/or other divine things he plans later on. Almost seems entirely impossible to cleanly run such a system for an extended period of time
1:37:36 they became more sceptical and the % shifted to the side X, doesnt that mean that they were previously less sceptical to come to the conclusion Y? How can Y then be more reasonable if it's less sceptically accepted.
Geo passed his 'Apologist Masters Degree' (aka 'lying for God' )with Honours. He clearly wasn't paid enough attention as a child, hence his desperate attempts to get it on this call. Apologists are deaf to what they don't want to hear. Geo was stuck in a loop and couldn't get out of it. I'd have lost patience with him very early into the call. Kudos to Aran for keeping cool.
I have a humble suggestion for dealing with “trolls in pectore” (that means unannounced) like Geo. Don’t go on “yes you are, no I’m not” shouting matches, that’s the proverbial “pig mud fight”. Just use sarcasm, derision and piss them off by “claiming victory” every few minutes. Don’t fight the pig, just use their trolling against them.
He MIGHT have been trolling second-hand, but that doesn't exactly exonerate him. Still a lot more bearable than the fart smella that is Richard, though.
I remember being a kid staring at the sun until my eyes got used to it and I could see the sun... then be blind for a few minutes... Guess I am lucky my eyesight still good 🤣🤣
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6:17 Sam (he/him) - Atheist | Caller wants to talk about determinism and quantum mechanics.
23:42 Geo (he/him) - Theist | Caller claims that atheism is "the belief in not having a belief" and claims to have "a million and one ways" to defend faith.
1:08:03 Cloud (he/him) - Atheist | Caller wonders which bible translation is reliable.
1:19:10 Richard (he/him) - Theist | Caller is a polytheist and he asks hosts: "what is it that you're opposed to, that makes you skeptical of it?"
2:15:40 Frank (he/him) - Atheist | Caller claims that he doesn't "subscribe" to the "idea" of trans people's identity, and asks some questions to hosts about it. [Yeah, dude should've just call TACIS or whenever Forrest is on, like Sam did about quantum mechanics, and like Richard did calling when Aaron is on.]
2:33:18 John (he/him) - Atheist | Caller is deconstructing and struggling with the concept of "there is no meaning to life," so he asks for some advice from hosts. [Much love to Caller
Thank you so much for the timestamps Faia, you rock 💜🦄💜🦄
Thank you for the timestamps!
Thank you Faia!
@FaiaHalo
Always in your debt, Faia. If I'm not watching live, your post is always the first thing I look for.
Thanks, as always!
You're a shining beacon in a sea of bewildering comments Faia :p Thank you for the timestamps! 🏳⚧
The IRONY:
"Everyone who comes on your show is stupid, they don't have an argument"
Careful Geo. That was dangerously close to self-awareness.
I HATE when people say faith is the same as trust.😶
Faith is DESPITE evidence.
Trust is BECAUSE all the evidence, so far, shows you CAN believe it.
How is that so hard ?
They also think believing that stuff is real, ( god, bigfoot etc ) is the default position you should hold.
( ie- I think Bigfoot & god is real, unless "they" show me he's totally not real )
Youre not supposed to believe/ think something till there is a sound reason.
😁🌏☮️
Aron Ra is starting to be my favorite debater with The Line. His calmness and his ability to explain terms in the face of blind and faith based people, without losing his shit, should be admired
Richard: Logic and reasoning brings you the conclusion of God's.
Richard later: Logic and reasoning has limitations in response to hosts reasoning for not believing.
Also gods a unsolvable mysteries.
Ok cool.
You stop solving mysteries and sit in your reason corner.
The rest of us will continue exploring the room. Maybe we will join you in the corner one day, but it seems cramped and boring for now.
I still can't believe how many callers, and people in general, go from "No one can explain how (fill in the blank)" to "I know how (fill in the blank)."
We'll no one knows, right?
But I mean its obviously a disembodied, omnipresent mind that decided to create us, for no particular reason, at some point during it's eternal existence, then became its own son, sacrificed itself to itself, hates gay people and foreskins for some reason.
Its completely obvious! You're just in denial and probably hate jesus if you disagree, tbh.
They dont know how they make that leap themselves
@@SquidwardQSaganThey don't think they did make that leap, that's the crux of it.
*Because there is no need to explain (fill in the blank). God works in mysterious ways, and we mere humans have no way to understand his infinite wisdom. Even trying to (fill in the blank) is misunderstanding our place in the universe as subjects of a creator God.
It is a sound argument from the theist, it's just not valid (or vice versa 🤔).
Geo "a lot of things" "a lot of evidence" "many examples" "many people"
Essencing the Totality of his Experience...
Measured via Proponderometer.
@@brucebaker810 keep things vague and you're always right
@@MichielvanderMeulen
Keep things vague and you’re always.
I'm reminded of the caller whose ethnicity depends on many things, mainly his ethnicity.
I need Aron and Adair to learn how to use the mute button, and I feel very confident that Geo is the guy who yelled yo mama shit at Matt on the line.
Yo mama's a bitch, lol. That call escalated so quickly. It was hilarious. I was laughing my ass off. Arden's comment about her dick made me laugh so hard that beer came out of my nose.
Amen. Mute dishonest interlocketers early and often
@@rudai123 The word you're looking for is "interlocutors".
You're saying a theist lied? *shocked face*
"The probability of finding a pink unicorn on Mars is way higher than finding an atheist anywhere who is not pdf file"
Geo "I'm not a troll..." that's exactly what a troll would say innit!
The only way he wasn’t a troll would be if he never heard of the word “troll”
He isnt necessarily a troll but he should learn to listen.
I really don’t think he was a troll.. - I just really honestly think he’s a simpleton who has no idea he’s a simpleton so he thinks he sounds smart lol
@@bms77 then go back and listen to the episode where he calls in as “Isando” and at the end of the call engages in the epic “Joe mama is a bitch” battle before they hang up on him
To be fair it's also exactly what a non-troll would say.
Geo at the start of the call: I've only listened for an hour
Geo at 54:10 : everyone who listens to your show is stupid
Aside from being plain rude, I'm pretty sure he just exposed his own lie about not watching the show.
I started my day with a Higher Power.
I'm not even kidding, I woke up, turned on my computer, and played Boston's Higher Power. I probably caught the thumbnail and that caused the song to pop into my head.
Hm. I would argue that you didn’t start your day with “A” Higher Power, you started it with the only Higher Power that matters. haha
As an electrician, I have spent many days with a higher power. Only difference it's real, and actually deserves respect unlike some make believe god freak!!
HAHAHAHAAHAHAA OH MY MAO ZEDONG THAT WAS SO FUNNY HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAVE YOU CONSIDERED A CAREEER AS A COMEDIAN? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL LOL LOL HAHAHAHAHA
I'm 99% certain Geo is Izondo; the caller from several months ago who decided only a handful of women in the entire world could beat him at basketball. I'm also certain that he's also a caller who called Atheist Experience a bit ago too, who had some completely ridiculous stance about LGBTQIA+ and pedophilia. He is really bad at disguising his voice, and he has a couple of 'tells' whenever he starts getting heated with certain phrases.
You might be right. Such a lame ass punk
I'm pretty sure you're right. They do sound pretty similar.
I'll have to go back and listen, but I remember Izondo x3 He was the guy who described any woman that could beat him at a sport would be "one in a million".
A truly silly little boy.
I do believe you are exactly correct.
That call was hilarious.
Richard has naval gazed himself into pure absurdity.
"Navel gazed into pure absurdity"
That might be the best book title I have ever read.
F..k it, I am stealing it. Thanks🖖🏻
*navel
@@TheNomad94 Thank you ❤️
Polytheists like him are ALL the same. Incredibly annoying people to talk to.
Geo: “u think humans know everything!!!”
Also geo: I have determined the causation of universe based on intuition.
LOL! Spot on.
According to pdf file atheist prophet Mad Pedolahunty, there's nothing wrong about incest. And this is divine revelation, so atheists have to believe this without questioning. Now, following that same logic, What is then wrong about necrophilia and cannibalism?
Who are harmed when atheists bone dead people then eat them?
It always makes me so happy when I hear somebody else saying, "I don't see why there has to be any particular special meaning to life." It so often feels like when I talk about that kind of thing in my own life, I have to carefully dance around what I actually think about that kind of thing because so many people are so doggedly obsessed with the idea that it becomes, "Well, you're shallow if you're not seeking meaning." (At least, that's the way it feels sometimes.) And meanwhile, I'm just thinking, "Well, I seek fulfillment, wellbeing, and enrichment in my life, and I hope I can help others achieve the same, but I don't see how any of those things require capital-M Meaning."
Theists will never understand the difference between "it's impossible" and "you don't GET TO SAY it's possibile" until there's evidence. Geo doesn't get it.
I like to say a Zeus might be a philosophical possibility .....but u can't count it in the realm of possibilities for causing a particular lightning strike if u can't demonstrate Zeus exists in the first place
......and the same goes for Yahweh and making universes
@@pumpuppthevolume Correct.
Like... when pdf file atheists claim as absolute truth that men can give birth and then nowhere in history has this been true, and no other evidence points in that direction either?
Richard proves just how unmoored from reality his philosophy actually is.
Richard is doing little more than bolstering his own biases. his ad hominem assertion gives that away. Also - argument is NOT evidence.
I'm 100% grateful Geo isn't someone I have to talk to in real life 😵
Dudes like him would vote and shape our future. Sad but that’s what reality has to offer
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wouldn't even want him as a slave
Is it even possible to find an atheist who is not pdf file?
So far... the search has been unsuccessful.
It's almost like... such atheist doesn't exist.
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppablefunny since I haven't met a single atheist who is, but I know a lot of priests that are
LOL, Florida NEVER disappoints!
But intellectually, Florida is very disappointing.
I live in Florida, and I can verify that.
@@ereyes6718don't feel too bad, I live in Ohio and it's not much better here. This state went from a battleground, swing state that often went blue to a deep red state.
@@cullenarthur8879 That sucks, man. I am sure it gets real tiresome seeing those cars with all those Trump stickers on them.
@@ereyes6718 yes it does. I have a guy right down the street from me that has a huge F Biden flag and a Let's go Brandon sign right in front of his house. I can't even count how many Trump flags and signs we have in our neighborhood.
if geo isn't a troll then i'm genuinely sorry the american school system failed him so spectacularly
He has to be batshit insane if he's not trolling.
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I have today actually (not 100% sure if they're the same person), but again most of his views were batshit insane as well!
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@@renix3968😊😊
"What _isn’t_ stupid about everything you've said?"
"Nothing!"
😂 Well, at least we agree on something!
Yep. I had that thought also. And "I bin [been] through car accidences" is another great line. It's up there with "I believe one thousand percent". It's calls like this that remind me of Ricky Gervais(sp?)'s line, "Being dead is like being stupid. It only hurts for other people." The Idiocracy is coming!
(And just in case anyone is knee-jerking, no Idiocracy was not a documentary. A documentary is a documentation of something that has already happened. Idiocracy was social commentary and a prediction. The fact that some people think it was a documentary only lends weight to it's predictive qualities.)
Personally I was more impressed that he's somehow been through multiple terminal illnesses.
@@tehspamgozehere I hate to break the hearts of pdf file atheists, but men cannot menstruate and they cannot give birth
Richard: Take another freaking bong hit duuuuuuuuuuuuuude!!
A belief in not having a belief. Oh dear Geo 😀😀😀
Trust: I know planes function, I know pilots are trained, so I believe that I can survive this flight.
Faith: No human ever used their arms as wings, our bones are too heavy, we don´t have wings, but I believe God will let me fly if I jump.
The Line: This week's hosts are Aron and Aaron
My brain: Aaron earned an Aron urn
For the record Richard is the same guy who calls and insults everyone for not being as smart as his presuppositions.
The difference between faith and trust is evidence and the ability to change ones mind faith is taken a position on something without evidence and then you defend that position in spite of evidence whereas you trust something because of evidence and if that evidence changes and/or is wrong you can drop your trust.
Love Aron’s love for his dog!! It’s a beautiful thing to watch!
I have found that the only time reality is in doubt is when someone is trying to fool yourself or they are trying to make you doubt yourself.
And Richard when we are dead and gone as a species the universe will still exist
I won't say Geo is stupid, but he said a LOT of aggressively stupid things. That was like an AXP call from 2007. Blows my mind that tbat went on for 40 minutes.
Richard was a close second.
The lengths people will go to to defend literal mythology range from yelling absurdities to calmly stating absurdities. There really isn't much else for them to do when empiricism deserts them.
It's like they don't have a leg to stand on. Weird. I wonder why, when so many people claim to have evidence of a god, people have such a hard time giving explicit evidence of a god.
I say it. Geo is stupid.
I think his high level of extreme willful ignorance is a demonstration of his stupidity
I'm gonna go out on a limb and claim he is stupid because we have his call as evidence ✌️
@@xanthipussofsparta6555 but do you have 100% evidence or do you take it on faith, which could also mean trust, cause you don't know nothing and you were not there personally?
😂
Yeah, Geo (FL) has definitely called before, which makes him definitely a liar...
Yes he sounds familiar and I recall someone named geo, maybe the same person but too lazy to check.
Agreed. Maybe not this show but to another show recently.
He sounds like Izondo. The guy who can play basketball better than any woman on Earth.
@@MrGeemontyisando, he had beef with Matt and they was a “Joe mama” back and force
@Deutsch-um6rt *forth
Geo survived a terminal illness 😂😂😂
Maybe that's why he only used to be immortal. I guess it's a one-time deal. Must be a consumable rather than equipable.
I face palmed when he said that.
Faith broke Geo's mind.
Once Aron's dog fully appeared at about 1:36:26, Richard kind of winked out of existence. Beautiful
Watching Aron Ra slowly zoning out as Sam (he/him) in MA prattled on and on (and on) about quantum determinism was priceless. I'm talking about freezing the frame count at the 19:13 mark. That is more or less the exact same expression I make over smug presuppositionalists (read: garden variety) and the entire Babies-Are-Born-Atheists trope.
If we accept that "random" can be used synonymously with "unplanned" ... _are we obliged to attribute the (purported) existence of Yahweh to randomness?_
Thanks
That was a great smile from Aron while Geo was babbling along.
Geo "sometimes you can know something that humans cannot know". 😖
Geo, If you are reading this. Please don't call again.
And if you ever feel like it, drown your phone or go play some basketball or something
I'd probably rather have Geo than Richard.
@@jamesy52wasted potential
The children on the background of Geo are a massive reason for concern.
It is so hard to listen to Aron talk about trans issues… I really wish he would just say, “call the Trans-Atlantic Call-in Show” and then move on to a new caller.
That show is always on when I'm at work. I can never watch it live.
"I am he as you are he as you are me, And we are all together". I like this guy. All three are just going in circles. Does it even matter if the Gods are real, or made up. What is real? This is fun.
You'd think that a bear would be wearing a pair of Timberlands😂
I'd say Kodiaks.
Or, better still, bear feet.
(I don't yet know context. Reading as I start video.)
I was thinking Kodiaks as well... 🤣
Yes hahahhaaa - excellent
I just heard that conversation. I think I lost a few brain cells listening to this troll.
Happened to me once, but the bear was wearing crocs.
Aron should do a show with a co-host named Aaron who happens to also be an RN.
Aron could also showcase one of his birds in his background, I suggest a wren.
Isando , were you crying at the end? 😢😢😢😂😂
Aron loving on his animals is amazing. I love you parasocially, good sir.
I'm unsure if there is a correlation between adrenally fueled speech and religious narcissism, but Richard is sipping the high octane boost of his own specialness.
Geo - Been there, done that. You've lied about "not calling before" your "accent and enflection" popped out when you got excited. lol
It always does. He thinks he’s so smart, lol.
Good show guys. You two go well together.
54:13. MaDude.... At the beginning of this call, you were new to the show and only listened for an hr or so....
And now you gonna talk about ALL the other callers?
Geo is a longtime caller and troll.
I was TRYING to get a blood sacrifice ritual going but, as Aron said, the cloud cover was pretty thick here.
And I just can’t chase people like I used to. Headdress gets heavy.
When it comes to religion, "Faith" is often a synonym for "Loyalty".
They're expecting their master to show up one day and reward them for being loyal when reason tells them their religion does not match reality.
@Geo, I have "faith" that my car will start tomorrow, that is based on the fact that I take care of it, I drove it yesterday, it has gas in it, etc. Do I "know with 100% certainty" that it will? No. There are millions of things that could happen.
BUT, I am 100% sure that when I turn the key if it does start, it will drive and NOT fly.
Religion says, "You have never seen this happen and I have no reasons I can give you for it to happen, but you should believe that it is true and will happen because we told you to". Would you believe that your car will fly tomorrow because your priest told you to? What if they told you that God says it will?
You are basically putting the opposite assertion that I can't PROVE my car WON'T fly tomorrow and that because I have "faith" that it will drive that I am somehow wrong.
You don’t have faith your car will start, you have evidence. Most cars in service start most of the time, and I presume your car has a near-perfect track record of starting without considering other cars. If those things weren’t true and evident, you would be irrational to believe your car would start.
"And then Lucifer says, 'Thanks for shining some light.'"
😂😂😂
I jumped ahead randomly and the first thing I heard was, "I'm not a troll." 😂
Rich u were told to call because u were talking about physics and quantum mechanics as far as I remember
And Richard also demonstrates what I say when the universe is in doubt someone is either trying to fool yourself or make you doubt yourself just enough that a god term definition or idea
Geo’s call has to be the most blatant example of “I know you are but what am I?” that I have EVER heard on this entire channel.
God doesn't meta game when playing Jesus, and I respect that
Did anyone else notice how Geo started off the call with saying he didn't like when theists use the "were you there?" argument but near the end yells "were you there?" at Aron several times.
I honestly feel like the biggest problem with all these shows is that the hosts don't know how to communicate with really stupid people.
Geo took the trophy as the dumbest caller EVER!!!
LOL Richard can't even read HIS OWN study! Guy doesn't even know the definition of the terms he is using. That he initially wanted to act like he was above everyone else is PERFECT Dunning-Kruger! Chefs kiss perfection I can't eat another bite.
"Give me an example of something mental causing something physical."
Placebo effect; traumatic psychological experiences changing the physical structure of the brain...
Richard what is "fundamental matter" meant to be, when we talk about fundaments in normal day talks, it is something on which to build a structure or an argument.
And fundamental parts are the basic parts.
What are YOU talking about in your philosophy
Having the double dose on Sunday was spectacular. Matt, Paul, Aron, and Aaron. I don't know if it was a one time thing, but it was a great surprise.
Get better, Jimmy!
Aron is not for those begginer aplogogists. He's waaay over their heads. If you're calling for the first time, I suggest you find someone on the line who has more patient for kindergarden level apologists.
That Temptress looks good, probably can't get up on the east coast. I hope you can try Oscar Blues Double Dales IPA and Grey Sail Captains Daughter IPA, its obvious you will need it.
If Gezondo thinks people don’t tend to blame God for results, he doesn’t watch his sports. And that makes sense after he said that only “one in a million” women can beat him at sports.
Geo doesn't seem to understand that the word faith is being used differently, I don't have faith that my car isn't going to explode when I get in it tomorrow, I have tons of evidence that makes this an unlikely event, such as cars exist, lots of people use cars every day and explosions are extremely rare. Geo is like most people who make this same equivocation fallacy, they don't seem to be aware of all the prior evidence they have for mundane events and then think its the same for a god when it's painfully obvious that they have zero evidence for god, you can't even show that a god is possible let alone responsible for anything.
They gave him far too much time to be honest. He gave me a headache.
49:00 I WISH Aron would just keep pointing out the places where he swaps definitions of faith....
I love it when they bring Ryan Reynolds to host the atheist show ❤
I read that, scrolled up to look at Aaron again, and had to laugh
_"Our next caller wants to talk about how skepticism is just lying to yourself. You're on The Line with Bigfoot and Deadpool, let's get into it."_
@@BaronVonQuiply wait, I was actually talking about the co-host😂😂
@@Deutsch-um6rt Aaron really does look like Ryan Reynolds with a beard, and Aron has a story about being mistaken for Bigfoot on a back country road one night
1:19:00 Caller Philosophy is a waste of time to circle jerk around in circles how do we know in other dimension realms maybe even other universes that 2 + 2 = 4 ???? Equals God.
The trinity was thought up to justify 3 gods and still call it monotheistic
Geo you said: when we invest in something we need to have "faith". It's a way to say we have faith in the project, not god. We do need market research team, marketing team, finance analysis team, network and customer service team to improve CHANCE of success of a project investment. We spend time, money, and work to check the advantage and disadvantage of project before invest in it. Sometimes the project has low chance to success (profitable) 40%-50%, below 40% chance no one want invest into it, 40% still success, we say the faith help us. It's not literally god, it's the work of everybody
"I don't have a belief."
"How is that possible if you're an atheist?"
By definition😂
geo has mashed potatoes in his head where his brains used to be
Religion is community, psychodrama, aesthetics, placebo effect, and symbolism. Its best to acknowledge that upfront and embrace it, rather than believe supernaturalism. Materialist nihilist satanism is your best bet for the religiously minded.
I am training myself away from the word "confidence", and replacing it with "certainty", "degrees of certainty".. due to the Latin roots "con" and "fide" ("with.. faith").
1:36:27 OMG that's a beautiful dog!
Oh dear, it's Aron and Aaron! Now I'm going to get all confused over who is talking!!!
🤣😅😂
Frank, there was no issue with Dillahuntys comparison.
If you are trying to figure out if you are hungry, you trust your own mind on that.
If you are trying to determine if another person is hungry, you ask them.
Some people express their state of being hungry some dont. Some are more obvious about it than others.
Geo reminds me of Paul Ruben's character from nice dreams. "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm not sorry haha"
For fuck sake, use the mute button.
Yeah, that call with Richard was *excruciating* because Aron kept ignoring the delay and whatever phone issues they were having.
@@SnareRushJunkieI haven’t even got that far. I think this is one of the few times I don’t watch the entire episode.
Geosus what a feckless troll.
I don't get the prefix suffix thing either about trust and faith: for instance 'disabled' has the prefix 'dis' and the suffix 'ed'. But how does this relate to trust and faith? Mistrustful? Unfaithful?
Maybe Geo is god trying to convince the world with his very compelling and inteligent arguments.
I'm converted! Hallelujah! 🤣
Matter is an image of the real real.
To our life and understanding and ability to interact, matter is matter. Whatever god reality has for matter is irrelevant
I think that guy could have made a better argument if he'd described the trinity as 3 separate gods working together to form the world. Not a literally "dream" but more like a shared vision of how they wanted their project to turn out. It's kind of similar to what I think of when they say god is outside of time. It seems more like they would be outside of our perception of time but would still have their own. Like how a fly which has a shorter lifespan might experience time differently than we do.
30:20 talking about how God would have to coordinate every human action on the planet in order to facilitate like answered prayers or God looking out for someone, it made me wonder if it could be mathematically calculated roughly how many different actions he would have to account for while letting some people go about their lives while ensuring certain people stumble into whatever scenario that was planned for them.. with 8 billion people to coordinate, it seems almost infinitely complicated to set up certain situations without eventually running into problems that arise down the line via free will and/or other divine things he plans later on. Almost seems entirely impossible to cleanly run such a system for an extended period of time
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
Friedrich Nietzsche
I like how Geo said other callers were stupid, then proved he was one of the dumbest callers.
A-Ron and AA-Ron
Are snakes affectionate? I find the idea of that snake looking like it’s cuddling with Aron just adorable. Please don’t tell me I’m seeing things.
1:37:36 they became more sceptical and the % shifted to the side X, doesnt that mean that they were previously less sceptical to come to the conclusion Y?
How can Y then be more reasonable if it's less sceptically accepted.
Geo passed his 'Apologist Masters Degree' (aka 'lying for God' )with Honours. He clearly wasn't paid enough attention as a child, hence his desperate attempts to get it on this call.
Apologists are deaf to what they don't want to hear. Geo was stuck in a loop and couldn't get out of it. I'd have lost patience with him very early into the call. Kudos to Aran for keeping cool.
I have a humble suggestion for dealing with “trolls in pectore” (that means unannounced) like Geo. Don’t go on “yes you are, no I’m not” shouting matches, that’s the proverbial “pig mud fight”. Just use sarcasm, derision and piss them off by “claiming victory” every few minutes. Don’t fight the pig, just use their trolling against them.
Geo was 100% trolling.
or 1000%?
@@kentonbaird1723 I know two things with absolute certainty. 1) I'm not omniscient, and 2) he was trolling.
He MIGHT have been trolling second-hand, but that doesn't exactly exonerate him. Still a lot more bearable than the fart smella that is Richard, though.
Aron laughing out of desperation. A troll
@@kentonbaird1723I have faith he is 1000% troll
I remember being a kid staring at the sun until my eyes got used to it and I could see the sun... then be blind for a few minutes... Guess I am lucky my eyesight still good 🤣🤣