Garage Attic Elevator Lift Build Safety Mod In Minneapolis, Minnesota
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- We received so many questions and comments about the lift! It was really fun. I’m not a you tuber. I just wanted to make a video about building the lift because I saw a number of them that helped me design and build mine. I wanted to combine the best ideas from the other videos.
Almost all of the comments were fun, but a percentage were critical. Some needlessly so and some were helpful.
The most important thing we added were fall arresters in case something bad happened and the carriage fell.
Plus, we wanted to have a little fun.
For the commenters that asked, “Why Minnesota?” I hopefully answered that question too.
Finally, I was amazed at some of the little things that people picked up on in the video, like my Bears hat. So, I added a couple of fun things near the end of the video to see who spies them.
Here are some links to the items in the video:
Fall arresters: www.durawear.c...
Forged 1/2" Eye Bolt: www.amazon.com...
Hue Light Switch: www.philips-hu...
Great job...Thanks for doing the original video and also this follow up video with the humor and a bit of sarcasm. I am in process of building one of these based on your project right now so I came back to watch it again and found this follow up! Glad so many people liked it. Cheers!
Sarcasm is my specialty I’m afraid. Interesting doing this. When you build be extra safe and overbuild it. We are working on a braking mechanism. If it works, video in January.
Glad to see your kindness for your assistant.
Fall arrest system is such a smart and simple solution. Thx!
After watching both videos, it's greatly appreciated you did the update of features and why. A great home project video of the age old problem of getting to the loft area of a garage and how you solved with a platform lift! This will greatly help physically disabled people.
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Thank you sir! My oldest brother used to work on planes in the military back in the day, (early 60's). He always told me that after they performed the maintenance or repair, they had to go up with the pilot on the test flight. That added to their diligence!
Thanks for taking the time to work through some of the issues and sharing the solutions. Really like the 'cable might break' solution.
Watch out with your fall arrestors. The bundled end above the clip is a shock absorbers that will suddenly retract out 3' if they are under a heavy sudden load. Also, the anchor point to each lanyard or yo yo is supposed to be about 2000lbs if I remember correctly. Also, if the retractable fall arrestors are ever put under a load they need to be replaced. They are single use items, and are deemed non functioning if they are used to ever lift something, just in case you ever wanted to use them up on your roof.
Very good idea with the fall arresters! In the spirit of backseat drivers everywhere, hopefully the top edge of the superstrut is not sharp, in case the strap ever rubs against it as it travels. I was rock climbing one time and the nylon webbing sling for our top rope rubbed across a rock edge when people would fall and pendulum swing. At the end of the day when we took it down, we noticed the sling was about halfway severed. Oops.
Cute!! I like the "Family Vacation" touch. (Cold one) Thanks for the update especially the fall arrestors. I was concerned about that. It's nice to find an affordable solution.
Love the Vacation series. Glad you caught that!
Two fall arresters! Redundancy= great! Nice job. Thanks
Thank you. I needed the balance in the aesthetics! 😂😂😂
The fall arrestors are a great idea. Very nice job.
Thank you. You should check out our emergency brake video we did recently. Let me know what you think. Thank you again.
Double loop the winch to lift twice the weight and the fall arrest also has a woven part that will open 6 extra feet in case of a fall.
The handrails are only there so I can load stuff on haha yeah ;-) we get it
Cool video!!! Thanks much! I like the "cold One" you gave yer kid!!!LOLOLOL
I like that lift. I was concerned about the cable or something else failing when I watched the original video but like that you remedied that with the arrestor. I might consider adding a 3rd if and when I come to do this to hook to myself. Love this idea and simplicity, affordability and functionality.
I think I would be more worried about myself misstepping hence the 3rd arrestor, I get paranoid about safety though so that might be over kill. or I would think to put a wood fence/gate that I could use, but this is 1000x better than the folding stairs and there is not safety stuff for a person falling down that or crap falling off while take it up and down. the other thing I love about this lift/elevator is the smaller foot print. it just goes straight up and down. the stairs take up more space in the garage when opened up. At my parents house, it wasnhard to get open with 1 car in the garage so this a great feature.
I just started looking into this set of videos with interest when you wrote "click here for extra safety features." I like what you are doing so far, BUT I have a safety tip for you. In case it has escaped your notice you should be aware that those "safety" reels are unlikely to save anything you are transporting if the hoist cable, eye, or top brace fails: They are loaded with PPE fall arrest lanyards that have a shock suppression loop designed to reduce shock injury to a person (leading to suspension trauma). When you drop sufficient force on them to activate, the bulge at the end will unravel the hidden elasticated part of the lanyard absorbing a lot of the falling force as it goes, but this is at least 2m long (6+') so in this situation long before the lanyard starts deceletating the lift "car" and contents in their fall, the whole assembly will hit the garage floor which is only 2m below the ceiling anyway. It might start to have an effect a foot or so above the floor if the cable were to break at the very top of its travel up in the loft, but given the range of travel the chance of that is slim. I don't know if you can reload those particular grab blocks, if you can then load them with "restraint" lanyards (just a strop with a hook/shackle on the end) and chuck the "fall arrest" ones, but if not I recommend you exchange them for a different model without the shock suppression units on. Hope that helps prevent avoidable breakage or injury :-)
@@theelevatorSRT8 Now that sounds even more cool! I'll definitely be back for that :-)
["(if you can call it that)" made me smile -- hey, there's nothing wrong with "composing at the keyboard" when it's not critical to life, health or career! That's often the most fun time in engineering: give it a bash, see what happens, then bash it a different direction, just don't expect to be able to unbash anything:-) ]
Very cool design and thoughtful to add the backup system. Just want to make sure you are aware though that what you have on the bottom of those self retracting lifelines is a shock absorber. The purpose of it is to lessen the impact to a person if they fall. With enough force the stitching is pulled and additional 6ft of lanyard comes out. The ripping of the stitching slows down the fall ever so slightly so that the full impact of the sudden stop is not transferred to the person that fell. The catch thougg is that you still technically fall another 6 feet from where the lifeline "caught" you. I only mention it because god forbid your elevator somehow came free and fell, just be aware that if the force is great enough to deploy the shock absorber the whole thing is still going to fall another 6 feet. SOOOOO....all that said, you have two of them, and only going to the attic height it is VERY unlikely that you would be stopped with enough force for that to happen. I personally wouldn't change a thing but just wanted to make sure you realized how that device adjacent the hooks worked.
Thank you. We are aware. Its why we couldn’t do a full test without destroying them. It’s not 6 ft though on these units.
Super Arbeit mit 2x Sicherungs-Automaten !! ich glaube ich werde das Nachbauen! Aber ich nehme China Lifter allerdings mit Funk- Steuerung ! Dan habe das lange Auf/Ab Kabel nicht im Weg?..Danke für Die Vorlage! 100 Jahre sollst Du leben!
The fall arrest strap near the bottom where it’s thicker is made to open up like an accordian to lesson the shock of a sudden drop.
He will probably hit the floor before it stops him. It stretches like 3.5 feet.
Great vid, nice improvements, we need a lift for an area to access and there are some great ideas here. Thanks for posting.
Was planning on building a tiny home with a loft over a garage, but stairs were going to be a pain. But thissssss is slick and simple.
Nicely done, I enjoyed both videos.... this is the type of stuff I'd like to do when I finally buy a house, hopefully soon
Let’s hope you get that house very soon!
Ahhh just saw this video. Cool idea to stop the platform if the cable breaks.
Thank you
Excellent explanation I benefited from it
Greetings to you
Terrific. I always tell folks. If you build one, be very careful when you operate it and overbuild it for strength.
@@theelevatorSRT8 The advice is free of charge
And its owner is generous
Therefore, its details must be adhered to
God bless you
Nice update, thanks for sharing. Keep up the great work 👍👍
This is exactly what I needed to plan my own. And I subscribed as soon as I saw the Cubbies license plate. I knew at that moment you are a good human.
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Love it. And as if you didn't have enough built into this thing - the one item I would suggest is a redundant hand crank as a contingency against motor failure perhaps?
Great job. We built a similar one and posted a video as well. I Like your light modification. We do not recommend riding as well. I like the fall safety gear.
Cool man!
Nice, easy solution to a possibly hazardous outcome. Thanks for the info!
Great videos! Quick note: you'll need the same forged 5000# eye bolts for _both ends of the fall arrestors!_
Especially because a moving 500# is much more weight when stopping.
I always remember this about load: if the load will move, you need more weight rating - like people jumping in an elevator have more force than just their weight.
Thank you for sharing your projects
Thanks for Great Safety Backup Option. Look Great 🏊🚣⛵💪
What a great job. Watched both of them. Fall arrestor's are a great addition/suggestion, I was wondering about that on the first video. The other thing I want to add is limit and safety switches. Easy to add and makes it a great addition in case someone accidentely rides on the elevator. I'm building one that goes from my basement to the second floor. A few other obstacles such as safety flaps/doors at each opening on first and second floor needs to be designed. I think I'm going to enclose the shaft and add doors. That should probably do it. I really appreciate your post. Thanx, -keith.
Cool. Yes, I think it sounds like yours could use that stuff. That’s a different application for sure. I was remind people to be very careful and overbuild it. I’m working on a braking device that will kick in if the tension is ever lost on the rope. It should be pretty cool if it works!
Yes and the "fall arresters' are a great idea for safety. That would cover any type of failure (cables or wench.) I've looked into brakes if the power failed but that's getting a little to involved for normal circumstances. If I ever sold my house I would dismantle it for liability reasons. That of course is why everyone says for freight only but with some common sense there's no reason why it couldn't safely be used for limited mobility. My uncle is an electronics guy and he said it would be easy to add limit switches for safety etc. I think we're both on the same page though! Merry Christmas to my RUclips friend:-) -keith
#JEALOUS 😁😁 I built something for my attic some time ago along those lines. Similar winch. My issue is the load ratings of attic stairs. I’m about 260lbs....add the weight of anything I’m carrying and I’ve far exceeded the ladder rating.
Great video. Thanks. I've forwarded to an engineer to see if he can design and build something similar for our shop. We have limited space. Tired of using the ladder and don't really have space for a staircase. Plus it would be cool to raise stuff up and down safely. We'll put an "over-kill" winch to handle whatever weight we throw at it. Thanks, again.
That's really cool Paul! Thank you.
I've done this at home. It's great!
Terrific. Like is always say though. Be very careful when operating and overbuild it for strength!
What a great addition !!
"We don't ride it!"
"We do not ride it!!"
*"We do NOT ride it!!!!"*
*Shows himself riding it
Built one of these 8 years ago and never an issue yet. I feel way safer on it than I did on the attic ladder. Especially while trying to heave up totes.
@@theelevatorSRT8 Welcome to the internet, where good behavior and ideas go to die. And thanks for putting up the original video and the updated one as well.
@@theelevatorSRT8 If I built one of these I'd be riding it too. Was fun watching both videos and leaving the kid up there just made me laugh. I hate taking anything up to the attic so yes I'd be ridin.
Do as I say not as I do. LOL
You should make some videos of why you moved to MN and what you like and don't like so far. Also, another video with maybe some of your favorite places so far?
gracias y felicidades
ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We just moved into our new home about four months ago and the attic is read Dick you Leslie huge so guess what I’m making or building
Ridiculously huge
BEWARE on those fall arrestors, those puffy section of webbing you see towards the bottom designed to break open with 3-6ft of webbing. So you might fall further that expected before it actually stops. Theyre designed with weak threads sown through them to rip under a shock fall.
That is awesome!
Thank you
I was looking for someone who actually did attach fall-catchers. Too bad you did not record the testing of the fall-catchers. Thank you for the video. I defenattely wil build a lift something like this and with the fall catchers (forgot the official name) . The danger of these type of lifts is snapping of cable or other part that holds the floor. The way you build it, makes this a lot safer system I think.
Thank you. It’s hard to test them because they have those folds in the webbing that are meant to break the stitching and unfold to reduce the impact. So if I test it, I could destroy the arresters and I’m out a couple of hundo. Know what I mean?
@@theelevatorSRT8 Yeah I know what you mean. Thank you for taking the time to answer :)
handles for when im loading cargo. lol.. right
Lol
You have me laughing you are funny I love it
put the control switch on the pole to save holding it
Thanks for both vids....going to add to my build list.
I am curious if the fall arrestors would be improved if you wrap them to the lower board and snitch to itself....that way it would have to break two beams to fail verse pulling out the bolts.
That ibolt being unrated reminds me of a cell phone antenna accident from unrated bolt.
Already overkill, just curious from and engineering view point.
Great vid with follow up.
Great job. Thanks.
Thank you buddy!
I have subscribed and watched all your elevator videos now. I will be building my elevator soon. One question- Do you believe the fall arresters are sufficient and reliable or should I build the Otis style braking system?
I had watched the first one, no safety device. I really like the fall arrest modification, my ratchet system only works on going up. I have a rather complicated idea to make it work going down, but these fall arresters are the ticket and will order some as soon as I can. You can see mine at. ruclips.net/video/OgUaGCsHILk/видео.html. Video abit noisy as I didn't know about the noise reduction when editing. Might be interested in other video's about things I do.
The hoist structure appears to be plenty strong. Well done. I have a question about the overall structure that's carrying the full load. I understand that you attached the hoist structure to the wall studs in the attic. What is that structure resting on? The ceiling joists? Wall studs? Were you able to increase the load bearing capacity of that portion of the wall?
Since it’s only carrying appr 300 lbs, it’s not a concern. Picture two adult men standing side by side in the attic by the wall. 👍
@@theelevatorSRT8 👍🏻 Works for me. (Just don’t let any supersized neighbors take a ride! 🙈😂)
do you have a list of the components to build this elevator!
Pulled an Eddie there at the end with the cold one.
Who's Eddie? I was thinking Bob & Doug McKensie....😁
@@rosebarnes9625 Randy Quaid is Eddie.
@@pugmalley sorry, what movie?
@@rosebarnes9625 Vacation with Chevy Chase., farm scene
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@@pugmalley thx! 👍
AMAZING #2
LOL Thank you.
I checked out the link for the fall arrestors and they are expensive, I think you said around 8 dollars, Do you have a source for a more reasonable price.
What a great project!!! The fall arresters were a great addition. Is there a way of put a stop shut off at the top or is there no need for it?
That hockey puck looking thing is a safety stop. When up it could be moved up the cable so it trips the silver loop on the hoist. I just don't think it's much of an issue that it has been addressed yet.
I believe you said you found the arresters for about $80 each. Can you advise where they can be bought for this price? Thanks, Jim
Really like the design and understand the warning do not ride but why have it if you can’t ride especially if you a re unable to climb stairs. I’m going to up motor and cable to get 1000 lb rating. Hope my subscription gets another brew from RUclips. Thanks again.
thank you very much for the update on the elevator! I think I am going to be adding the arrests into my design. Already had to dismantle it once and change out where my strut rails are at. Hope that will be the last big design change that I will have to do with mine. Did you ever have troubles with trolley binding on your rails when you were bringing a load up?
Great upgrades from original video, first eyelet was unwelded? Was my guess hardware stores sell those types. One question I had was the upper beam in the attic, those are 2x4 or 2x6? Seems odd the orientation as on there sides but with so many laminated together most overcome the limitation
The eye bolt would have been fine. Another commenter pointed out that the weight rating was for shear strength. That’s different. I knew that could not have been a possibility. But it was cheap to change. The boards are 2x6. The orientation was my concern about the size of the bolt holes drilled through it to mount the motor.and thank you.
Fall arresters are 172.00 each
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Im Dachdecker Zubehör! im Internet!!
Die Automatik Aufrollgurte gibt's im Dachdecker Zubehör handel , das habe ich heraus gefunden!..
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Just a hunch but that bolt is probably rated for 2,200 pounds but either way; what the heck are you doing at that point. And looking at your safety solution using those climbing arrestors I nearly slapped myself because I am a tower climber and was sitting here trying to think of my own solution when I saw this follow up video. Cheers. Those arrestors are usually "rated" for shock loads of about 300 pounds each because a 6ft fall at 300 pounds is somewhere in the neighborhood of 3600-5200 lbs. So you have roughly a 600pound load rate of safety factoring, but then it goes back into what theyre connected too, and thats those lower rated eye hooks that will pull themselves open at maybe 150lbs of shock load. You should really consider swapping them out for forged eyes at some point. Otherwise you still have the same fail points as before with the winch if something goes wrong while you're trying to hold something steady on it as you ride down with it. Another note* those wrapped up packs of material on your safety falls can be like 6-8ft long, they are sown together in a way to purposely break open to act as a shock absorber. So in your case they are a bad thing because you will have hit the ground before its full ripped itself open. You should look into that with theith manufacturer and see how long that shock webbing is. If its 3ft, no worries, but id hate for it to be 6ft and you not be prepared for that extra fall
I know you created another vid with an additional breaking system. But I'm curious about the fall arrestors. The ring on the arrestor looks like a weak point. I'm wondering if anyone knows what the snapping point of that ring? Additionally the eye blot you've attached to looks smaller than the one for the hoist.
Good job!
Hi. Great!
What is name safty wire?
Where buy it?
Thank you.
Sorry my English not perfact. Im korean
Hi, I don’t know Korean so we are even! I love Korean people though! I think you will find what you need in the description.
I have a question, I'm working on my elevator in my garage. How did you attach the top of the fall arresters into the eye bolts? I get the bottoms easy clip on but the top ones how? Did you had to open them and weld them back in.
Is there always tension/weight on the cable? Or do you a way to lock the platform when stored?
It would not be difficult to do that. I just don’t think it’s necessary.
I really like this design. I have a 2 car garage and I wanted to make a motorcycle lift that I can lift out of the way when not needed. This is something I can make. However, If you have the drawings or how you assemble the lift video that would help me a lot. Thank You
Ur welcome I just subscribed
I need to build an elevator to help my dad and other elder members of my family to safely go up my terrace and avoid all the stairs… is the don’t ride it cause it doesn’t have like a rail around it? Or just as a “disclaimer” sort of thing?
Thanks for your video, where can I buy the security stuff?
There are links in the description. You’re welcome.
What are the dimensions of your platform? Would you change them?
Appr 50” W 36” deep. It seems to be the perfect size for my use.
cool project but so sad that the safety police take away the fun , i know safety first and they mean well , so good job taking the advice at heart and if you want to ride your lift....just do it...maybe i build one in my house instead of the stairs.......
Thank you Leon! It gave me something to do. Check out the latest video. We designed and built an emergency brake
Hola, desde mexico te saludo.
Que tipo de motor es el que se requiere, que marca o modelo?
los rieles, una liga para checar las especificaciones
Just translating this: Hello, from Mexico I greet you.
What type of engine is required, what brand or model?
the rails, a league to check the specifications
Is it me or do the fall arresters appear to be on standard eye bolts ( not forged) also they to do appear to be through the wood they are connected to. Almost like Lag Eyes that does not seem safe if the main cable breaks and the fall arresters have to stop the load from falling they could pull the eyes right out of the wood
First thing I noticed too.
Any thoughts so it doesn't hit someone underneath? Maybe garage door contact sensor, or car window sensor? Line of sight sensor might work?
Do not ride the elevator, i repeat, do not ride the elevator, in our next video, my grandson rides the elevator
Where did you purchase the Forged Bolt ? Do they have a website ?/. Thx.
Any way to get a blue print on how to build ?
could you show how you extended the control wire? Where did you get the wire? how did you splice it into the old wire.thanks
Great job guys! How much slop is in the UniStrut trolley assembly? Does the lift shift from side to side or front to back as it's going up?
@@theelevatorSRT8 - sounds good. I'm going to build one of these to utilize space over an RV garage.
Brian. May be a silly question, but did you have to get a permit for this lift? They can be a real pain in the ass here in Virginia. Great job on this. I learned a lot. Thank you for sharing.
Wer'e Americans! Getting permission from the gov't to build something inside my home is most Un-American!! 😁
I don't get it, why would you move to here from Indiana? Wrong direction
Great info on the lift. Thanks.
When we were moving, we were asked that dozens of times. Easy answer, our daughter moved here, married, grandkids... It’s actually a great place to live.
did you consider using Garage Door Tracks instead?
Nothing wrong with them. My neighbor used that method. Works fine. I just liked the clean look of the unistrut.
@@theelevatorSRT8 Id prefer to use Unistrut but its been tough finding legit parts in Canada
I will be subscribing to your channel just because you are so handsome.....;-)
Marty,
Hi. Great!
I ask thomting. What is name the safty wire? Where are buy it?
Thank you
it amazes me, It doesnt matter what u do or dont do, If u make a comment about something you will have someone or several someones making a negative comment or something counter to what u said. If u make a video such as this for example, u will have some that will be just fine with it and tell u what a good job u did, then u will have the other half telling u oh u need this oh its a safety issue oh put a gate on it oh u shouldnt get on that its not built by an engineer and everything carefully calculated and hasnt gone through safety and standards testing blah blah blah. Oh u should put a gfi or u shouldnt be doing this or that. Here is an idea if it is a safety concern for u dont build one I can promise u for every safety concern someone brings up I am pretty sure I can find atleast 10 things u do that is more dangerous than this. Something happened in the last 20 years and it isnt for the better. The amount of negativity no matter what is being done or said is astounding. I completely understand if something was overlooked that is life or death or something is a fact like it is a fact that the cable will break or that will break for x reason but most of the negative stuff i see could be left unsaid and opinion on safety kept to themselves. Sorry to poster of video, its just i have seen several of these videos and people all shooting off there what if's
Gotta admit. You’re right buddy. Some of the suggestions were constructive though. Some were really something! Some people wanna be wrapped in bubble wrap!
172$ for one fall protector.
"This forged bolt is rated at 5,000 lbs.."
** puts bolt vertically through a "beam" that impacts its strength the most (cutting through both tension and compression components)
Use as trap around that beam, or least something better than a 2x6 if it's carrying the whole weight
Also, the 3 2x6s as the top beam are oriented flat, which is much weaker (3 1.5" tall beams are much less effective than even a couple 5.5" tall ones).
Hey Tim, thank you for the comments and for watching the video! The point of replacing the eye bolt was to eliminate the possibility of the bolt itself from failing. Of course this does not prevent the "beam" from failing, but it does eliminate another mode of failure.
As for the orientation of the 2x6's, it would not have been practical to orient the boards upright rather than flat because we had to run bolts down through them to hold the superstrut that holds the motor. Our solution was to orient them flat, but also glue and screw them all together. By doing this, we eliminate bending due to slipping and can view the "built up beam" as one solid 6x6 (For reference, think about what happens if you glue every card in a deck of cards together). I think you would agree that a 6x6 board is more than sufficient to hand the load it is being subjected to. By the way, you should check out our latest video about our new emergency brake, it's pretty sweet!
Yes, what Mitch said. Also I did not need to replace the eyebolt. The rating is for sheer. One of our followers gave me the scoop on that and said our original eyebolt was fine.
Nice?
Have you monetized the channel yet?
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lol theirs no way that ring can do more than 2500 lbs. I sling steel daily and you'd need at least 3/4" diameter to go beyond 5k lbs 50k lbs you're talking 2-1/2 inch
Wtf was with that ending?!
Lol. Cmon man. Name the movie!
@@theelevatorSRT8I'm pretty good with movie references. if that was a movie reference, I totally missed it.
@@helmet098 lol. It’s a little obscure but a couple of people got it. Vacation.
Cousin Eddie: I bet you could use cold one, eh Clark?
Hands him his bottle and opens a new one for himself!
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lol.
Glad you liked
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Don't ride it haha ever
Cmon man!
Just our secret, Mitch. No one knows but you and me 🙈
Jeff Brown 😂😂😂 you get it