What Happened with SAAB? Pt 2 - Past Gas
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
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Despite its affinity for front-wheel drive cars, especially in its legendary 99 and 900 badges, Swedish automaker Saab still managed to sell one of its properly cool cars as a wagon with all-wheel drive. The 9-2X Aero. But here’s the thing: It wasn’t a true Saab, but a mashup of GM DNA mixed with Subaru. And, it was entirely built by Subaru, too. But let’s take a step back and try to get an idea of where it all started. When did Saab start slipping away? What did platform sharing and badge engineering mean for its legacy and survival? What happened at the end? And finally, will we ever see some form of Saab ever again? Today, on Past Gas: it’s the final part of our two-part series on Saab.
00:00 Intro
00:33 What Happened with SAAB? Pt 2
01:53 Justin's WEIRD cars / Host intros
5:47 Catching up on Saab
8:06 Let's Talk Jets
14:53 Chime
16:02 Lectric E-Bikes
17:11 The 9000
26:15 Platform-Sharing Expands
32:19 Prize Picks
33:21 Shopify
34:31 Saab in NASCAR
39:50 Blatant Badge Engineering
53:17 Deep Financial Turmoil
58:54 Takeaways
1:00:02 Listener mail / Outro
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James has shifted back into his old self for this episode.
This was great. I wish you guys would have covered the 9-3 Viggen, 9-3 Turbo X, 9-4x (Cadillac cross breed), and at least one 9-5. Like the first episode, it could have been boiled down to about 15-20 minutes of content actually related to Saab though, lots of off topic stuff again. But thanks for covering the dead brand that I've loved for 25 years.
Agreed. Most people think the only AWD SAAB made was the 92x, yet the Turbo X is ten times the car and would spank the pants off it. And include the NG 9-5 Aero and even the wagon outside the US - that wagon was beautiful.
This was pretty much just "reading a wiki about a brand". None of them seem to have any actual experience with a Saab.
@@esaedvik Considering the 9-4x only 673 were made, makes it more rare than a lot of Ferrari's and Lambo's, definitely an awesome talking point that could have been had. Not only that, but the 9-4x is absolutely stunning, even to this day. I'd still love to own a black one.
Fun story: my high school boyfriend went into the military as a flight mechanic after he graduated because he had a Saab in high school that he did his own work on 😂
"You're crankin my hog" has to be one of the funniest things said on Past Gas, especially when James says "Hand to the sky... I'm not crankin your hog"
Great episodes on SAAB thank you.
I have a love for SAAB and alot of memories with SAAB. My mom and stepdad brought me along for a SAAB club cruise where i expirenced speed for the first time, i was 10 or 11 at the time and we saw a really nice cobalt blue 9000 that had a 2.4 litre with turbo going 0 - 200 (kph) in somthing like 9 seconds and the sound of it flying by us was incredible and i think its one of the reasons i became a car guy. Also my dad taught me how to drive in his 900, when I was 13 so I guess im a SAAB guy. I would love to have my own 900 or 9000 turbo and my mom still drives a 9000 and as far as i can remember she has had 3 or 4 of them, both with and without turbo. Great cars.
Hi, I'm Swedish and I approve of your Swedish. Sounds adorable 😊
My first car was a Saab 9-3. Loved that car. And when that was taken behind the shed, I got a Volvo S60.
Why do Europeans just hoard their cars and let them rot instead of selling them?! Is it a pain in the ass or something?
I'm going back and listening to all the old episodes and it makes me love all of you even more!
There were some that got missed out. The Saab Sonett, the Saab 9-4x, and the Saab 90. The Sonett being the most important out of them as it was their take of a sports car.
Also, the engine in the 9000s are some of the most tuned engines in the Saab industry because the T5 2,0 and 2.3 can handle the tuning. My dad has an old -95 900 with the 2.0T T5. The old owner tuned it up to 300 with just a few upgrades with the majority being stock
also missed out mentiond the saab V4 they only mention they had the 2 stroke but no mention of the saab v4
I drive a 9000 aero and its just amazing! You can get like 36 miles per gallon out of it, even though I’m running about 300 horsepower. Even has some amazing factory recaros! Seriously underrated cars
That hyena laugh in the back 😂
Good morning Donut Podcast admin
Fun fact about lfa's, the last 3 new ones in north america were sold in 2019. But the last unsold lfa in the world, was sold to its first owner in 2023 in australia.
Drive a Saab 9-7x 5.3 almost daily... It's a Beast! GM told the Saab engineers to have at it with the platform and they Delivered in Saab style. 200+ pounds of sound deadening, Huge sway-bars, rear-air suspension. The 9-7x Aero was the second most expensive vehicle GM was selling at the time behind the Cadillac Escalade.
Ole Crankshaft is back at it again. Top tier host
I remember my going to the saab dealership with my dad to get his serviced. The 9-7x just came. We were looking at it on the lot when a salesperson tried to sell us on it. My dad called him out and said i dont want a trailblazer. The salesman wasn't ready for that and stumbled and said the stitching in the seats is different! Lmao
My 2000 Saab 95 was pretty great. The best 2200 bucks I ever spent.
I have a saab 9-5 2.0 turbo with 210hp.i werry glad to have it,and it drives really really good,will tune it to 270 hp on monday, they are good cars to buy cheap,and with lether seats and a super Nice Cruise car..
24:00 Saab is IMO one of the most approachable brands there are. Tons of parts available and moderately easy to maintain. I had four and they almost never had anything go wrong (that wasn't my own fault) and I mostly drove them during winters. One had over 300k miles on it when I sold it. Most had nearly 200k miles. Pretty much a break-in for a well-maintained Saab.
Saab 9-3 used to be pretty popular in local standing mile top speed competitions as they could hit 300kph+ on airfields like /watch?v=qW-z__-OcOw hitting 313km/h (194.5mph)
2.0L 4 cylinder on boost only. No nitrous, on gasoline.
Few 9000's too like: /watch?v=vCLk33ncBMs
Part 2 let’s go 💪🏼
The Saab 9-7X had the nickname "Trollblazer", because it wasnt built in Trollhättan, the traditional production town for Saabs.
That Isuzu Impulse is sweet! I am shocked that Justin knew about this car. And he found the best one. That car is actually really rare. I haven't seen that model since 1994.
The LFA didn’t impact the market directly but the interior from the LFA was transferred to a lexus vehicles which only just recently updated.
Lol thank you for shining some light on my 97x aero. I freaking love it. 8500 bucks well spent
I like how the key is in the arm rest area by the shifter.
It was kinda amazing that Italians managed to mess up their versions of Saab 9000...
Here in kansas, we still have a saab dealership with repair facility still open daily selling used saab's
Very sad they are no longer around. Very cool company.
Had a 9000 I did like it, sort of, had a lot of issue with that thing. Though I did get it quite used so maybe was more previous owner than the car itself.
Early seasons of Seinfeld, Jerry drove an E34 5 series BMW
Nolan should defently buy a Saab 9000. I was a Volvo guy for almost a decade, drove manily 740's. Honeslty i got sick of the Volvos so one day i bought a rusty Saab 9000 just to try it out. It's the perfect car. Relaible, looks good, easy to work on and tons of room if you buy the hatchback. The best thing is the engine, with a simple tune it gets fast as f*ck, and if you buy one with the t5 engine you can delete the blowoff valve and add a dosepipe to the airfilter and get that awsome stutututut sound!
I'm on my third 9000, It's a mint -98 with low milage. I plan to drive it to the wheels falls of, and usually i don't keep cars a long time. Those i like stays about a year.
NOLAN NEEDS ONE!!
You guys aleast have to testdrive one, you will be suprised how much they have to offer compered to a modernish car.
I had a 2003 Saab 9-5 Aero Wagon and it was a SICK car but my god owning that thing in 2016 was a nightmare with repairs.
We need a full fleet update for all the hosts
Welcome back schoolboy Q
could you do one one scania, both the construction machines, trucks but mostly the boats as ive worked on di16 and 13s as well as 12s. but also volvo, with the euro trucks, cars and marine engines to
and is it possible to pop in for a visit in june? ill be coming from nz
Good morning Boys. I feel like this is my reward for getting up early.
Dido
I own a 2000 9-5 and a 2009 9-5. Anyone who sits in both cars will tell you that you can literally feel the 2000 is built with higher quality, not to mention how you can literally see and feel the GM cost cuts that took place. To this day, SAAB is the highest quality vehicle "GM" ever built.
Guys, this is a formal invitation to drive cars for 8 days in AZ with me. Let me know if we can work something out.
that sounds like a badass video idea
bought a 2011 Saab 95 with a rare manual - im debating showing up to Buick Regal GS Nationals in Bowling Green and making a scene.
Jim Halpert drives a Saabaru in early episodes of The Office
I love my saabaru
You would also need both Andy’s Prius and xterra
Subaru and Saab collaboration does produce some beautiful vehicles. Current Subaru have lost vision thru Forrester.
Down here in nz and aus kmart and eb games still exist :D
Man I miss my 2001 saab 9-5 aero she was sadly auto but I mean it was the nicest thing I’ve owned for a long time. Then I got a 1995 Volvo 960 wagon and that bitch was/is still my favorite car I have ever owned.
How do u not mention the saab turbox awd and 300hp
So many awd options
The non turbo 9-2x is the linear
21:19 shouldnt be called hatchback; its a sportback if its on a sedan/coupe chasis. Hatch backs are the infamous fit, older civic hatches prior 2012, and like accents, velosters.
Do an episode on geo!
befor the lansen they had the saab 29 tunnan and one jet befor that in the late 1940s so there were saab 29 The first flight of the prototype took place on 1 September 1948
I disagree that you shouldn't buy a Saab unless you're a fanboy. One of my favorite cars that I've owned was a 900SE Turbo 1996 with 290k miles. $800. Alternator died at around 315k and being an idiot I sold it at the time (could've replaced alternator and got another 10k miles I'm sure).
LF-A Was to be a strong show to the market.That lexus would become a sports luxury car rather than Is a traditional japanese business man luxury company.
I miss my impulse... that ol piece of shit gave me headaches but it was my lotus suspension awd turbo POS.
Beautiful! How come you clipped the video when Justin was talking about that guy’s clean flying record?
Still making fighters.
But it sounded good
First 3 yay. 80s Subaru rx coupe is my favorite Subaru. Anyway I love the saab 92x aero awd saabaru. Better looking than the Hawkeye. Love ya guys. Also
Hey DONUT if you're looking for a loudmouth know it all idiot who has to be the center of attention, then you have found ur guy.... me Mr Ryan D Adams. Anyway, hire Ryan Adams .
March 11th?
I miss my 2001 Saab 9-5 Aero best $2,100 I've ever spent until GM electronics eventually ruined it.
V6 trailblazer eh? Cmon car guys.....
Leave it to James to trend the term “anti-Swedish racism”.
IM A SUBIE FREAK! GIVE ME BACK MY SON!!
B.M.W.
Sears and Kmart were murdered by Eddie Lampert.
Sorry to Wink Wink Nation, but I'm liking Justin as a host more than Joe.
Joe left the wink wink nation to join the wi wi nation
Fucking love you mfrs
My family's lump was sadly inherited end of 2023 eleven year old lumpy luver boi brody biggest pit I've seen
What happened to SAAB? Striving for perfection made them go bankrupt. The car devision that is. The "Unhealthcare" department 😉, where it all started, is alive and kicking delivering top notch equipment to the US and our Allies. They're doing well and will be around for as long as there is a Swede breathing i assume.😊
Note...We actually did get the Alfa 164 in the U.S.; the only Type 4 cars we got here was that and the 9000. The 164 was sold here from 1991 to 1995 (when Alfa left the U.S. that first time, now they're back, lol); it had a SOHC V6, later a DOHC V6, both 3 liters, and the U.S. model had a manual as the standard tranny 😁
Plus, whereas the Saab 9000, Fiat Croma and Lancia Thema was designed by Giugiaro, the 164 was designed by Pininfarina.
An episode about Saabs that focuses mostly on Subaru and GM models? No mention of the 9-3 Viggen or the Viggen Flight School or the Turbo X and barely a mention of any of the Saab 9-5 models until 2011 or the Saab 9-4? What a disappointing episode. P.S. that is a Bavarian accent, not a Swedish accent!
Podcast on just how GD overrated the LFA is. Slow? Old on release? Expensive but still lost money? Boring styling? CHECK. CHECK. CHECK. AND CHECK. Oh its exhaust note was tuned by Yamaha? ONE MILLION DOLLARS!
I live in a Sears catalog house lol
But it sounded good