Been loving these videos. I saw someone on steam rate this gun poorly and thought they were crazy. Never even put it together that you could abuse the reload damage.
Thank you mate. The Discord Community is great in finding all mechanics and stuff. Couldnt do it without them! So I can understand if someone on steam does not find mechanics like that themselves...
Thanks mate! Maybe ill do a few shorts on all the other items. Will see if I can showcase all weapons though. Not all are special enough for a big Video imho.
@@chr_isso Nice man, very excited to see striga and cricket Cricket with crown of fire went crazy when I tried it Striga because I want to see how I can utilize the weapon properly
Great vid as always. As someone who's done all the content and revisits Witchfire every few months to see what's new, these guides have been a great tool for me to shake the rust off and relearn things in a game that is otherwise not great at explaining what's going on to the player. Keep up the good work!
I knew there was animation canceling in the game (I've been doing it to cut off the end of reloads for most of the game) but I had no idea it could be abused like this. Crazy video, very well done.
Maybe the Stake gun...forgot name. I use this with shockwave and bell to clear out groups of enemies or a few. This allows for almost all hits to be one shots. Also use whisper sometimes or crossbow. Might be worth it looking at. Also some high fire rate weapon as secondary. Earned yourself a subscribe.
Midas is very enjoyable to play, but really weird in many senses: First of all, the stats can be misleading, as you look at very low damage per bullet and might think "oh this is so weak, cricket does double the damage per bullet, Midas can't be strong" ... but that's a misconception. Midas shines in terms of accuracy, speed, and magazine cap. It belongs to the most reliable weapons in the game, as it can handle close range combat as well as mid range combat, groups and single targets, Minors and Majors. Another weird aspect is the heating mechanic, which is kinda difficult to get used to, and might straight up overwhelm new players. And frankly, after 90 hours in this game, i still can not handle the heating and overheating well - but the nice thing is, that even if you don't care about the heating, the Midas still performs exceptionally good. I mostly play with the Ring of Fire equipped, so i don't have to care about the overheat burn - i just need to dash once and can apply instant burn with my first shot.
Yeah, agreed! Heat mechanic is quite hard to use, maybe it should stay a little longer in heated mode and cool down less fast.. but only if they fix the abuse of the M3. It's a weird weapon but i like it!
Although not completely the same, I'm enjoying Echo + Severed Ear as a continuous knockback effect. Empty the clip into the enemies, then just fire after it reloads a single round. Each time you get the knockback wave. With the 3rd Mysterium on the Ear, every enemy with decay takes damage each shockwave as well. Add the last round arcana.... Much more fair than Burning Stake shenanigans.
@@chr_isso It's a lot of fun. Just make sure to plan when to hit the ammo chests - lol. I'm trying to get ASE, Blight Cyst and Ring of Excreta to proc decay, but it seems like a lot of hard work for a bit more damage when some spells just delete the level...
@@chr_isso Made a short "gameplay snippet" on it here; ruclips.net/video/fxmsU40VNYQ/видео.html. The repetition of the effect is much clearer when I'm one-on-one with the last Swordsman.
yeah, but it seems you already staggered him from the hit on the soul sigil. but echo seems to stagger quite fast, so maybe ear is not even required? anyway it's a good addition to make sure you're not gonna get hit. Good Showcase, thank you!
@@chr_isso Yeah, you're right. That video isn't the best example of what the combo does unfortunately; is just a visual "concept". What I find "more attractive" about Severed Ear than the stagger is that it pushes back everything else nearby. I've been trying the same "style" with Blood of a Banshee, for eg, and it feels "safer" going into packs with the Ear, but that isn't to say it's "more effective". A better player than me wouldn't worry - lol. Drowned Captain seems to go into stun lock with Echo alone, and you have a short with Echo/Cornucopia crushing Shieldbearer, proving the gun is a beast by itself.
Lol I was just looking at these two things thinking, "If that works, that would be insane." Even without the dash cancel, this would be an incredible combo.
@@chr_isso that is a very bad idea. Combining weapons with sirens is what makes the game great. Your proposal would make Midas one of the worst and just a bad choice overall.
Yeah, i need to update the thumbnail with "PATCHED" or something. Anyway it's gonna be fun to watch this in the future again and think about how busted this was :D
yeah i'm 100% the hunger + hangfire gang. but i start to like new guns too, currently playing rotweaver and it's a different way of playing, but it's still fun!
I think this makes no sense. Most Weapons are good and it depends on personal preference! Some poeple love echo, some love Hunger, everyone loves Hangfire
Cancel reload so strong. Simply, but i never try to do it. But i think developers will bring cooldown to reload damage or make it work in short range around player. Or both :)
@@chr_isso Bcs they can :) Sometime devs nerf strong thing in single player game. Bcs they want ppls spending more time in game. Farming level, gear etc. It happens always in arpg for example. But may be Witchfire devs have their own way :)
Pretty sure he knows. This has been on the discord for quite some time, wasnt me who found out. So kudos to the Discord Poeple, they're crazy (positively!)
I've watched some of your guides, but this is the first time I've focused on the gunplay. 😅 I've been playing witchfire exclusively on my steam deck and, because I'm on a controller with some auto aim, literally never hit enemy sigils. Now im thinking I'll have to move to the PC
It all depends which weapon you use e.g. with Hunger its not efficient to shoot the sigils. With the large Magazin weapons it makes sense! Tbh i am too old to play with Controller. I learned MnK and can't switch anymore lol
People abusing Midas... Meanwhile me, spending 20 hours to optimize Hunger damage over-stacking synergy.... And replaying the game to keep Hunger at 2nd lvl... Oof
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Been loving these videos. I saw someone on steam rate this gun poorly and thought they were crazy. Never even put it together that you could abuse the reload damage.
Thank you mate. The Discord Community is great in finding all mechanics and stuff. Couldnt do it without them! So I can understand if someone on steam does not find mechanics like that themselves...
Really enjoying this series! Hope you go through every weapon and maybe other notable relics/fetish/rings aswell
Thanks mate! Maybe ill do a few shorts on all the other items.
Will see if I can showcase all weapons though. Not all are special enough for a big Video imho.
@@chr_isso
Nice man, very excited to see striga and cricket
Cricket with crown of fire went crazy when I tried it
Striga because I want to see how I can utilize the weapon properly
Will do Cricket, Striga and Rotweaver for sure! But will take some time, gonna have some busy days upcoming.
Great vid as always. As someone who's done all the content and revisits Witchfire every few months to see what's new, these guides have been a great tool for me to shake the rust off and relearn things in a game that is otherwise not great at explaining what's going on to the player. Keep up the good work!
Much appreciated! I'm really looking forward to more content in december, but we'll see!
I knew there was animation canceling in the game (I've been doing it to cut off the end of reloads for most of the game) but I had no idea it could be abused like this. Crazy video, very well done.
Thank you mate. Credit goes to the poeple on the discord who found out!
wonderful overview
Even though it got patched lately!
Maybe the Stake gun...forgot name. I use this with shockwave and bell to clear out groups of enemies or a few. This allows for almost all hits to be one shots. Also use whisper sometimes or crossbow. Might be worth it looking at. Also some high fire rate weapon as secondary.
Earned yourself a subscribe.
yeah that is the combo i would use too. stun as much as possible for maximum effect of striga! Whisper could be an addition too!
I always used the burning stake on the more endgame midas setup... but was unaware of the reload thing. Tested in game and holy crap...
haha, yep that's also what i thought!
Midas is very enjoyable to play, but really weird in many senses: First of all, the stats can be misleading, as you look at very low damage per bullet and might think "oh this is so weak, cricket does double the damage per bullet, Midas can't be strong" ... but that's a misconception. Midas shines in terms of accuracy, speed, and magazine cap. It belongs to the most reliable weapons in the game, as it can handle close range combat as well as mid range combat, groups and single targets, Minors and Majors.
Another weird aspect is the heating mechanic, which is kinda difficult to get used to, and might straight up overwhelm new players. And frankly, after 90 hours in this game, i still can not handle the heating and overheating well - but the nice thing is, that even if you don't care about the heating, the Midas still performs exceptionally good.
I mostly play with the Ring of Fire equipped, so i don't have to care about the overheat burn - i just need to dash once and can apply instant burn with my first shot.
Yeah, agreed! Heat mechanic is quite hard to use, maybe it should stay a little longer in heated mode and cool down less fast.. but only if they fix the abuse of the M3. It's a weird weapon but i like it!
Although not completely the same, I'm enjoying Echo + Severed Ear as a continuous knockback effect. Empty the clip into the enemies, then just fire after it reloads a single round. Each time you get the knockback wave. With the 3rd Mysterium on the Ear, every enemy with decay takes damage each shockwave as well. Add the last round arcana.... Much more fair than Burning Stake shenanigans.
Sounds like a good plan. Im not too good with the shotguns but with severed ear it sounds pretty good!
@@chr_isso It's a lot of fun. Just make sure to plan when to hit the ammo chests - lol. I'm trying to get ASE, Blight Cyst and Ring of Excreta to proc decay, but it seems like a lot of hard work for a bit more damage when some spells just delete the level...
@@chr_isso Made a short "gameplay snippet" on it here; ruclips.net/video/fxmsU40VNYQ/видео.html. The repetition of the effect is much clearer when I'm one-on-one with the last Swordsman.
yeah, but it seems you already staggered him from the hit on the soul sigil. but echo seems to stagger quite fast, so maybe ear is not even required? anyway it's a good addition to make sure you're not gonna get hit. Good Showcase, thank you!
@@chr_isso Yeah, you're right. That video isn't the best example of what the combo does unfortunately; is just a visual "concept". What I find "more attractive" about Severed Ear than the stagger is that it pushes back everything else nearby. I've been trying the same "style" with Blood of a Banshee, for eg, and it feels "safer" going into packs with the Ear, but that isn't to say it's "more effective". A better player than me wouldn't worry - lol. Drowned Captain seems to go into stun lock with Echo alone, and you have a short with Echo/Cornucopia crushing Shieldbearer, proving the gun is a beast by itself.
Lol I was just looking at these two things thinking, "If that works, that would be insane." Even without the dash cancel, this would be an incredible combo.
haha yeah, but the reload cancel was just game breaking. even though it was fun, im glad they patched it haha.
They either need to add a cd of a few seconds for triggering the damage on reload or trigger it at the end of the road.
Or only the enemies hit by midas will receive damage. End of reload would work too!
@@chr_isso that is a very bad idea. Combining weapons with sirens is what makes the game great.
Your proposal would make Midas one of the worst and just a bad choice overall.
It's good im not a game dev then haha :)
damn this will definitely gonna get fixed theres no way they will leave this in the game
It's in the game for a long time now.. I wouldnt bet on it getting fixed.
@@chr_isso spoke too soon!
de hell with vitality I'm going all the way endurance now, lmao
No need, you can still dash (without dashing) even without stamina.
Witchery is the most important stat!
They fix midas in new patch (PATCH 0.4.5.56088) "You can no longer trigger Mysterium III repeatedly by interrupting reloads."
Yeah, i need to update the thumbnail with "PATCHED" or something. Anyway it's gonna be fun to watch this in the future again and think about how busted this was :D
Bro that stake tactic is soooo nasty, used the fire rev and rotwiever for most of my of the game, double rev with full mestirium is also very strong
yeah i'm 100% the hunger + hangfire gang. but i start to like new guns too, currently playing rotweaver and it's a different way of playing, but it's still fun!
Man watching you play is making me wish i would have started leveling witchery earlier
Its gonna be changed with Stats 2.0 and im gonna start all over. Pump some Witchery and Metanoia and you're all good! Just enjoy the journey!
Hmmm... Maybe if they add some mechanic that lowers the heat while dashing? This aoe damage would still be possible, but not in such fast rate
i think adding the effect at the end of the reload would make more sense.
Weapon Tier List when?
I think this makes no sense. Most Weapons are good and it depends on personal preference! Some poeple love echo, some love Hunger, everyone loves Hangfire
Cancel reload so strong. Simply, but i never try to do it. But i think developers will bring cooldown to reload damage or make it work in short range around player. Or both :)
I mean.. why should they.. its Single Player.
But I hope they change something
@@chr_isso Bcs they can :) Sometime devs nerf strong thing in single player game. Bcs they want ppls spending more time in game. Farming level, gear etc. It happens always in arpg for example. But may be Witchfire devs have their own way :)
I guess they should move the trigger of M3 effect to the end of reload? 🤔
Yeah something like that!
Well damn, that's.. Insane, lol
Haha it's fun, for sure. But.. I cannot approve. It's too crazy for me.
I only use this method when im gettint bent over ngl 😂
haha fair enough. sometimes you're so small spoon, sometimes the large spoon lol.
@chr_isso I honestly love the game but needs more weapons or just to adjust some of them. The weakest weapons are paper weights to the top 3
More Weapons to come and DEVs said they will re-balance later on. I mean it's still 0.4 :) We got some time!
I think the reload spam was just recently patched 😢
Yeah it was.
lol I really hope Sugar is aware of this.
But in the meantime, have some fun, boys!
Pretty sure he knows. This has been on the discord for quite some time, wasnt me who found out. So kudos to the Discord Poeple, they're crazy (positively!)
I've watched some of your guides, but this is the first time I've focused on the gunplay.
😅 I've been playing witchfire exclusively on my steam deck and, because I'm on a controller with some auto aim, literally never hit enemy sigils. Now im thinking I'll have to move to the PC
It all depends which weapon you use e.g. with Hunger its not efficient to shoot the sigils. With the large Magazin weapons it makes sense! Tbh i am too old to play with Controller. I learned MnK and can't switch anymore lol
Hello. What is the glowing thing you shoot over their head to get more dmg? What item do i need to use to get that?
Soul Sigils. You should play the tutorial if you don't know them, they can be very important!
that midas reload might even be more abusive when cancelling with sprinting, then you can do it infinite and even faster. didnt try it tho
Mmmmh, I didnt check for reload cancel while sprinting.. either way, it's crazy
Ricochet please.
Glitch has been patched today.
R.I.P.
haha yeah, we need to see if we can find another reload cancel haha.
Imagine the same abuse with hangfire lol
Hangfire is so balanced compared to Midas.
People abusing Midas... Meanwhile me, spending 20 hours to optimize Hunger damage over-stacking synergy.... And replaying the game to keep Hunger at 2nd lvl... Oof
Haha mate, Hunger is love! It will always have a place in my heart!
Wow, yeah.... that needs a nerf.
I mean it doesnt hurt anyone. But the game is meant to be a challenge and hard, and this combo breaks the purpose..
Your face cam is ruining the video..
And I love it. Ruining the Mood is kinda my Humor. Kisses bro!