Thanks for the comparison tests. In my 40 years of TH'ing I have found it to be in my best interest to dig all targets thus remove any possibility of missing any good targets. On top of that I recycle all the scrap metals that I dig and use the funds to purchase accessories after paying for the detectors. This is a time consuming task but most of the farms that I searched in Northern Virginia have been very happy with this process. A reduction in farm equipment damage i.e., flat tires, broken mower blades, etc. So by doing this everyone wins. Now I know what many will say, I can't dig a hundred holes in someones yard because it will mess up the grass! This is where everyone needs to improve their digging skills. I have 4 Whites metal detectors; a XLT, Two DFX, and a TDI-SL and do not plan to move to any other brand. I run my DFX most all the time and use the preset Relic program with either the 950 or 10"DD coil. It is nice to know that the MX-Sport can see 10 or 12+ inches down but many times the ground is rock hard and all of impossible to recover any deep targets. Getting deep targets on the beach is great as it is a lot easier to dig. LOL I hope to purchase the MX-Sport in 2017 so we shall see! Thanks for the comparison tests. ;-)
When using any detector it is always good to check iffy hits by moving 90 degrees and swinging again,, always hit from different angles and use the shortest sweeps possible.
What was that loud persistent tone in background. I especially noticed it on the MX-5 when you did the first test. It sounded like the loud scratchy noise of a transistor radio. Can that noise be adjusted out?
Why didn't you have the mx5 in two tone on the nail test? And how did the mx sport do with the horizontal nail. I run the 10" d2 on my mx5 in two tone and It will perform better than tested.
The MXT only 9.5" on a quarter? Either I have the two hottest MXTs on the planet, or this test is a little fishy. Both of mine, in an air test, with the 10" DD, one an MXT, the other an MXT Pro will hit a quarter loud and clear at 11 1/2" very near 12. The same on a nickle. Not taking anything away from the sport. I'm sure it's a fine machine. But lets give credit where credit is due here.
Wow. Nice test. I have to say one thing that really impressed me was the MX5's ability to read a target under the nail when it was long ways over the quarter, parallel to the user. That's very unusual for a machine with a DD coil. I have five machines next to me that won't do that. Very impressive unmasking ability.I've seen that a concentric coil will still sound of with a composite signal in a situation like that, instead of completely nulling out. I would like to have seen that part of the test done with the MX Sport. The recovery speed is fantastic. This looks like a winner.
The better test would have been to set up ALL detectors with an equal coil. And for this the eclipse 6x10 DD would be first choice as it is available for ALL 3 models as White's states. Having 2 different 10" DD coils will not say they work equal. The old 10"DD round is a waste of time in my opinion as I had 2 of them and did not like their performance . But may be White's is doing a "better" comparison video? Anyway, wishing White's a good launch of the MX Sport.
How much of a difference would it have made in your air test if you would have put the 10" DD coil on the MX5? You made a point to swap the concentric to the DD coil in the tracking demo but left the concentric coil on for the air test.
+tnbackroads A similar-sized concentric coil will give you better depth, that's why we left it on for the beginning. The difference is the "peak" depth in soil - concentric coils have a conical pickup pattern, where dd's have more of a squared-off one. So at the center of the concentric you will be a little deeper than the double d, but off center the dd will be deeper. If we had swapped the dd to the MX5 for depth it would have read closer to the MXT.
When you performed the speed test with the nail horizontally at six inches on the MXT Pro did you have any discrimination turned on? Were you using Mixed Mode Audio?
We know the machines were in all metal mode for the air tests but what mode were the machines in for the recovery tests with the nail? The demonstrator did not get into that.
Thank you for a great comparison video. My only issue is that you didn't show the MX Sports recovery with the nail on top of the coin horizontally. For the other two machines you showed the results with the nail both horizontally and vertically, but with the MX Sport you only showed the vertical results. Why is that? Did the MX Sport not do well with the nail in the horizontal position? If not, why not show us? I have been extremely excited about this machine for many reasons, but mainly because it's a waterproof Whites machine. I am absolutely dying to get my hands on this machine, but I need to know how it recovers in that situation. Thank you for a great video and thank you for what appears to be another fantastic White's product.
+Chris B. Thanks for your concerns. We had an update which fixes this issue. So far field reports have been good, you might check some popular detecting forums for more information on the MX Sport from third parties.
I was wondering about the same thing, why did you not show the nail horizontally results for the MX Sports...this made you're results look fixed in the MX Sports favor !! lol
They did this because the MX Sport is their newest detector and it comes with a DD coil. The M5 had concentric coil and that is why he switched out coils on it.
hi,, good test ,i enjoyed them all,,would like to say thoiugh .that i have the mxt pro,fitted with the 12x10 sef coil,,,its faster and surer than the coil your test used,,also i had 4 larger screws ,2 per side with one on top of the quarter and between two books making the quarter 2 ins deep ,,,its response was lightning fast,,,maybe you should try a sef with the mxt ,,its a relevation,,,but love that mx sport,,,rgds
+White's Electronics, Inc. Why do you say "Constant" ground chatter? Mine doesn't chatter no where as much as my friends MX Sport. Sounds as though you're saying you made a bad machine with the MX5. The MX5 is weatherproof. I won't be going underwater no time soon. Looks to me as though the MX5 was right there with it in depth. Why yours was chattering that much ... I'll never know. The MX5 out did the MX S in separation and i have witnessed this first hand. I have quite a few White's machines and the MX5 is my favorite. Not my favorite out of other brands, but White's. Put the MX5 in two tone and you will see it will run side by side with the MX S if not better. It ( MX5 ) sure isn't nothing like this video ... LOL ...
+White's Electronics, Inc. I agree with PeterWrinkle ... this is a not-so-well-hidden mx sport sales pitch. The release with a firmware glitch that has required a large recall pretty much caused me to decide that the mx sport needs time to prove itself before i will replace my mx5. I have a dedicated high end water machine thats good to 250 ft. so the waterproof aspect to the mx sport is a moot point for me.
What you are seeing is not quite true, The MXT Air tests a Quarter between 12 and 12.5 inches, and if I changes my coil it will see it at 15.5 inches. Even with the standard coil using the 3 Tone set up it will signal it up to 21 inches and with bigger coils it will go out to about 28 inches, if you watch it again at the end you see that they changed the setting to the relic mode and on the recovery test the signal that you hear is in fact the signal from the Coin NOT the Nail.
+Johnny Yum We'll have some training videos coming up that talk about modulated audio on the MX Sport. Good idea to have it on in our videos, we'll try to remember on the next one.
I have a MXT Pro. Does a great job int the woods fields and parks. Not good among the nails. That mx sport looks like a bounty hunter or a 1st texas with White's stamped on it. Wonder if they are farming out. I have to add if it is your first detector and you get a pro you will work your arms on a long hunt but if its down there it will find it. :)
We make these in Sweet Home, Oregon. Sad to be mentioned in the same sentence as Bounty Hunter. We have worked hard for 60 years to keep that from happening...
Hope I didn't offend but lots of companies do such things. I have been out with friends with bounty hunters and such. Taught me that with metal detectors you kind of get what you pay for. I recommend Whites to all the nice people who walk up and ask me about metal detecting. My pro has been dropped muddied and drug. It just keeps on finding the goods. (and the pull tabs bless them) Very glad to hear your gonna keep making great machines. :)
+chasiu75 The DFX is still a decent machine, and one of the more popular ones we've made. Newer machines go deeper, faster, and are able to find smaller targets. It's just a matter of new technology having an edge over old. Some, like the MX Sport, are waterproof or have other features not available on older machines.
Thank you for your reply. I like the DFX, the only issue I have with it right now is the foam hand grip. Due to age the chemical structure of the foam is breaking down and it has a sticky feel to it.
Lol.....was really interested in a MXT Pro and the MX5 awhile back but went with an At Pro bc it is waterproof. Now that you have a waterproof machine its really caught my interest and I'm looking to try something different after using a Makro Racer for a while and having some issues with it. Will be interested in seeing the MX Sport out finding some targets and seeing how it does.
+valkari67 True, but next time you take your trusty old beeper to the beach, park, damp grassed area or dusty gold prospecting location have a look at the guys using the MX Sport, AT Pro or CTX and think to yourself "Geez, these guys don't even look up once to check for rainclouds, or care where they drop there detector" Using a shopping bag isn't for everyone.
+valkari67 Your point was valid, I guess I just meant that if it's as good as the MXT, combined with the cheaper pricing, it would be a hard to use the older model. Now for Minelab to waterproof the GPX5000, and not make me buy the little shytebox SCD2300, or over priced GPZ7000 to get waterproofing, I will be a happy man.
And if you want depth, with the 15" coil fitted 'you can expect to hit some coins well over 2 feet and beer cans deeper, Although it is very big it is Hyper sensitive and very deep and if you are looking for Big Targets It might be a good idea to have a Backhoe close at hand'
+craig talley It because of the frequency of the machine. The higher the freq the better on low and mid conductors. The lower the freq the better on high conductors as in the Quarter. It's running 14khz so it will be hotter on the nickel. This is good for hunting jewelry and lead bullets. But it's respectable on high conductors.
Heidi, I am sorry to say..... that your Fisher F75 will NOT pick up a Nickle at 19 inches. BS. It will pick up it up only up to 9 inches. I have a Fisher F75.
Thanks for the comparison tests. In my 40 years of TH'ing I have found it to be in my best interest to dig all targets thus remove any possibility of missing any good targets. On top of that I recycle all the scrap metals that I dig and use the funds to purchase accessories after paying for the detectors. This is a time consuming task but most of the farms that I searched in Northern Virginia have been very happy with this process. A reduction in farm equipment damage i.e., flat tires, broken mower blades, etc. So by doing this everyone wins. Now I know what many will say, I can't dig a hundred holes in someones yard because it will mess up the grass! This is where everyone needs to improve their digging skills. I have 4 Whites metal detectors; a XLT, Two DFX, and a TDI-SL and do not plan to move to any other brand. I run my DFX most all the time and use the preset Relic program with either the 950 or 10"DD coil. It is nice to know that the MX-Sport can see 10 or 12+ inches down but many times the ground is rock hard and all of impossible to recover any deep targets. Getting deep targets on the beach is great as it is a lot easier to dig. LOL I hope to purchase the MX-Sport in 2017 so we shall see! Thanks for the comparison tests. ;-)
When using any detector it is always good to check iffy hits by moving 90 degrees and swinging again,, always hit from different angles and use the shortest sweeps possible.
Very good advice - for any brand! It can keep you from digging as many nails for sure...
What was that loud persistent tone in background. I especially noticed it on the MX-5 when you did the first test. It sounded like the loud scratchy noise of a transistor radio. Can that noise be adjusted out?
Why didn't you have the mx5 in two tone on the nail test? And how did the mx sport do with the horizontal nail. I run the 10" d2 on my mx5 in two tone and It will perform better than tested.
Could you describe what tracking is. I noticed that you said the tracking could not be locked on the MX-5. Thank you,
The MXT only 9.5" on a quarter? Either I have the two hottest MXTs on the planet, or this test is a little fishy. Both of mine, in an air test, with the 10" DD, one an MXT, the other an MXT Pro will hit a quarter loud and clear at 11 1/2" very near 12. The same on a nickle. Not taking anything away from the sport. I'm sure it's a fine machine. But lets give credit where credit is due here.
Wow. Nice test. I have to say one thing that really impressed me was the MX5's ability to read a target under the nail when it was long ways over the quarter, parallel to the user. That's very unusual for a machine with a DD coil. I have five machines next to me that won't do that. Very impressive unmasking ability.I've seen that a concentric coil will still sound of with a composite signal in a situation like that, instead of completely nulling out. I would like to have seen that part of the test done with the MX Sport. The recovery speed is fantastic. This looks like a winner.
+Carolina Coin Hunter , Maybe it couldn't unmask the quarter with the mx sport so they turned the nail the easy way.
The better test would have been to set up ALL detectors with an equal coil. And for this the eclipse 6x10 DD would be first choice as it is available for ALL 3 models as White's states. Having 2 different 10" DD coils will not say they work equal. The old 10"DD round is a waste of time in my opinion as I had 2 of them and did not like their performance .
But may be White's is doing a "better" comparison video?
Anyway, wishing White's a good launch of the MX Sport.
How much of a difference would it have made in your air test if you would have put the 10" DD coil on the MX5? You made a point to swap the concentric to the DD coil in the tracking demo but left the concentric coil on for the air test.
+tnbackroads A similar-sized concentric coil will give you better depth, that's why we left it on for the beginning. The difference is the "peak" depth in soil - concentric coils have a conical pickup pattern, where dd's have more of a squared-off one. So at the center of the concentric you will be a little deeper than the double d, but off center the dd will be deeper. If we had swapped the dd to the MX5 for depth it would have read closer to the MXT.
what is better for gold prospecting the MXT All Pro or the MX Sport
I was wondering the same thing .
do you have some comparisons on the m6, I purchased one about 5 years ago & then won a m5 for my wife. I like the m6 better.
When you performed the speed test with the nail horizontally at six inches on the MXT Pro did you have any discrimination turned on? Were you using Mixed Mode Audio?
Здравствуйте!
Мне непонятно, МХ-5 плохой прибор?
Почему так мало информации о нём, и почему так быстро снят с производства?
do another test with detech coils on the mxt and mx5 and you wont see other difference, the mxtpro with a detech groundbalance faster
Is there an adjustment for audio modulation on the MX sport , I don't see anything in the online manual ???
Tony - yes. Hit options and then use the up and down arrows to navigate to AudMod.
Sounds nice the MX Sport.... Sure good step forward.
We know the machines were in all metal mode for the air tests but what mode were the machines in for the recovery tests with the nail? The demonstrator did not get into that.
hello, a question, which detector do you see better, the White's mx5 or the vanquish 540? I want to buy one of the two and I have doubts. thanks
Thank you for a great comparison video. My only issue is that you didn't show the MX Sports recovery with the nail on top of the coin horizontally. For the other two machines you showed the results with the nail both horizontally and vertically, but with the MX Sport you only showed the vertical results. Why is that? Did the MX Sport not do well with the nail in the horizontal position? If not, why not show us? I have been extremely excited about this machine for many reasons, but mainly because it's a waterproof Whites machine. I am absolutely dying to get my hands on this machine, but I need to know how it recovers in that situation. Thank you for a great video and thank you for what appears to be another fantastic White's product.
+Chris B. Thanks for your concerns. We had an update which fixes this issue. So far field reports have been good, you might check some popular detecting forums for more information on the MX Sport from third parties.
I was wondering about the same thing, why did you not show the nail horizontally results for the MX Sports...this made you're results look fixed in the MX Sports favor !! lol
DD Coils? Or are you comparing 1DD and none of the other 2?
They did this because the MX Sport is their newest detector and it comes with a DD coil. The M5 had concentric coil and that is why he switched out coils on it.
hi,, good test ,i enjoyed them all,,would like to say thoiugh .that i have the mxt pro,fitted with the 12x10 sef coil,,,its faster and surer than the coil your test used,,also i had 4 larger screws ,2 per side with one on top of the quarter and between two books making the quarter 2 ins deep ,,,its response was lightning fast,,,maybe you should try a sef with the mxt ,,its a relevation,,,but love that mx sport,,,rgds
Mx sport recovry speed is slowly , I love my Mxt recovery fast speed and all function.
not a fair comparasion, mxt and mx5 shoud use same coil, one us DD the other concentric
I haven't been very happy with my MX5 since I bought it and now I really wish I would have waited for the MX Sport. Thanks guys...
+Bill K. Was it the constant ground chatter that bugged you?
That's a really big part of it...
We fixed that with the MX Sport. It's a much cleaner unit in terms of ground tracking and background chatter.
+White's Electronics, Inc. Why do you say "Constant" ground chatter? Mine doesn't chatter no where as much as my friends MX Sport. Sounds as though you're saying you made a bad machine with the MX5. The MX5 is weatherproof. I won't be going underwater no time soon. Looks to me as though the MX5 was right there with it in depth. Why yours was chattering that much ... I'll never know. The MX5 out did the MX S in separation and i have witnessed this first hand. I have quite a few White's machines and the MX5 is my favorite. Not my favorite out of other brands, but White's. Put the MX5 in two tone and you will see it will run side by side with the MX S if not better. It ( MX5 ) sure isn't nothing like this video ... LOL ...
+White's Electronics, Inc.
I agree with PeterWrinkle ... this is a not-so-well-hidden mx sport sales pitch. The release with a firmware glitch that has required a large recall pretty much caused me to decide that the mx sport needs time to prove itself before i will replace my mx5. I have a dedicated high end water machine thats good to 250 ft. so the waterproof aspect to the mx sport is a moot point for me.
The relic mode goes deeper on the sport
What you are seeing is not quite true, The MXT Air tests a Quarter between 12 and 12.5 inches, and if I changes my coil it will see it at 15.5 inches.
Even with the standard coil using the 3 Tone set up it will signal it up to 21 inches and with bigger coils it will go out to about 28 inches, if you watch it again at the end you see that they changed the setting to the relic mode and on the recovery test the signal that you hear is in fact the signal from the Coin NOT the Nail.
I wish you would have showed it with the Modulated Audio on. As that is a feature I love on Detectors.
+Johnny Yum We'll have some training videos coming up that talk about modulated audio on the MX Sport. Good idea to have it on in our videos, we'll try to remember on the next one.
Excellent video! Thank you for sharing.
Great video thanks for sharing....love your channel and keep the videos coming !
I'd be interested to see a demo with some gold and silver rings.
The MX Sport looks very good so far.
HUGE MXT fan!! I have had my MXT for 8 years now an its a silver magnet guys!Preesh
I have a MXT Pro. Does a great job int the woods fields and parks. Not good among the nails. That mx sport looks like a bounty hunter or a 1st texas with White's stamped on it. Wonder if they are farming out. I have to add if it is your first detector and you get a pro you will work your arms on a long hunt but if its down there it will find it. :)
We make these in Sweet Home, Oregon. Sad to be mentioned in the same sentence as Bounty Hunter. We have worked hard for 60 years to keep that from happening...
Hope I didn't offend but lots of companies do such things. I have been out with friends with bounty hunters and such. Taught me that with metal detectors you kind of get what you pay for. I recommend Whites to all the nice people who walk up and ask me about metal detecting. My pro has been dropped muddied and drug. It just keeps on finding the goods. (and the pull tabs bless them) Very glad to hear your gonna keep making great machines. :)
Glad I bought the sport
The MX5 was the only Whites machine I ever owned that I just plain didn't like. I've been considering an MX Sport lately...
How much? When it will be available in Italy
thanks
+enrico martignone Try contacting our UK office for this - whites.co.uk
How does my old DFX compare to the new models? Am I missing out.
+chasiu75 The DFX is still a decent machine, and one of the more popular ones we've made. Newer machines go deeper, faster, and are able to find smaller targets. It's just a matter of new technology having an edge over old. Some, like the MX Sport, are waterproof or have other features not available on older machines.
Thank you for your reply. I like the DFX, the only issue I have with it right now is the foam hand grip. Due to age the chemical structure of the foam is breaking down and it has a sticky feel to it.
Easy fix - we might have a replacement (or you can use tape)
That would be great if you still have any old stock grips left that is still in good shape. Who should I contact?
Give us a call at 1-541-367-6121 and ask Laura for repairs.
What happened to the Newest video you Posted? Why did you make it private?
+Green Meanie We got some feedback that it wasn't a fair comparison. So we pulled it. Seemed like the right thing to do.
OK Thanks for the reply.
Great review.....looks like I may need to try out a Whites machine, only US machine I've never gotten to have in my hands.
+Detecting Chicago You know what they say... Once you go White's, you'll know that it's right
Lol.....was really interested in a MXT Pro and the MX5 awhile back but went with an At Pro bc it is waterproof. Now that you have a waterproof machine its really caught my interest and I'm looking to try something different after using a Makro Racer for a while and having some issues with it. Will be interested in seeing the MX Sport out finding some targets and seeing how it does.
As a MXT user all I can say is...........
MX sport is water proof..........Game Over.
Game NOT OVER PAL, *Water Proof does not mean Squat! The average USER doesn't wear a Wet Suit when swinging in a Park.
+valkari67 True, but next time you take your trusty old beeper to the beach, park, damp grassed area or dusty gold prospecting location have a look at the guys using the MX Sport, AT Pro or CTX and think to yourself "Geez, these guys don't even look up once to check for rainclouds, or care where they drop there detector"
Using a shopping bag isn't for everyone.
Good Points...... very True! Sorry if I sounded like an @$$ in my Pre-post
+valkari67 Your point was valid, I guess I just meant that if it's as good as the MXT, combined with the cheaper pricing, it would be a hard to use the older model.
Now for Minelab to waterproof the GPX5000, and not make me buy the little shytebox SCD2300, or over priced GPZ7000 to get waterproofing, I will be a happy man.
You did not turn nail horizontal for the MX Sport. If you did you did not put it on video.
Check out this updated video - ruclips.net/video/GodnVkv4Gh0/видео.html
The nail is horizontal for the MX Sport at 14:58.
I love it...thank you white's...
And if you want depth, with the 15" coil fitted 'you can expect to hit some coins well over 2 feet and beer cans deeper,
Although it is very big it is Hyper sensitive and very deep and if you are looking for Big Targets It might be a good idea to have a Backhoe close at hand'
we need test with hot rock with mxsport
I want to see it tested against the Garrett ATPro
The AtPro will Lose......
Weird goes deeper on a nickel than a quarter!
+craig talley It because of the frequency of the machine. The higher the freq the better on low and mid conductors. The lower the freq the better on high conductors as in the Quarter. It's running 14khz so it will be hotter on the nickel. This is good for hunting jewelry and lead bullets. But it's respectable on high conductors.
If only it had 2 or 3 Freqs for Salt that thing would of sold like hotcakes.
But I am going to still buy one LOL.
My Fisher F 75 will do 19" on a nickel.
Heidi, I am sorry to say..... that your Fisher F75 will NOT pick up a Nickle at 19 inches. BS. It will pick up it up only up to 9 inches. I have a Fisher F75.
valkari67
The video was showing AIR tests,so This was my reference--my F75 will detect a nickel at 19" in the air.
The stock 11" inch--AM Before I had it upgraded--now about 14".These are air tests and not expected to duplicate in soil,of course.
Then you need to send your 75 back to fisher for a retune.
ALL OVER PRICED HERE IN AUSTRALIA. TDI SL FOR ME FULL STOP...
Sweet