Why Talent Fleeing Pakistan? | Dr. Shujaat's Migration Story |
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- Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024
- In this podcast, Faisal Waheed interviews Pakistani PhD Dr. Shujaat Mubarak, where he opens up about his deeply personal journey and the reasons behind his decision to leave Pakistan. Dr. Mubarak shares the harrowing experience of facing a gunpoint threat alongside his children, shedding light on the challenging circumstances that led to his difficult choice. Despite holding a PhD, he reveals how he struggled to meet his basic expenses in Pakistan, offering a candid reflection on the harsh realities many highly educated individuals face in the country.
He also discusses the process of securing a visa for Scotland and how his life changed once he arrived abroad. The respect and opportunities he received in a foreign land were in stark contrast to the struggles he faced back home.
One of the most emotional parts of the conversation is when Dr. Mubarak talks about his departure from Pakistan. He explains why, as he boarded the plane to leave his homeland, tears filled his eyes. This heartfelt interview offers a unique perspective on the challenges of migration, the emotional toll of leaving everything behind, and the pursuit of a better life. Don't miss this inspiring and thought-provoking story!
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He is explaining his situation now I left army Pakistan in 1992 to keep my dignity respect and self-confidence safe
i have been fighting for PAK ARMY online against Indian propaganda and now i feel sad and alone as i cant defend them now. This feel like betrayal and disappointment. I still love my soldiers but their superior is beyond hatred.
Salute Sir
Can't aspect from an army person... civilians, may Allah help us all.
Left Pakistan as a 3 year old. Must have been hard for my parents to leave everything behind but as a 27 year old now I'm just thankful they made that decision. Alhumdulillah
Almost 10 years out of shit place.. feel lucky and blessed
Become European and accept their culture.
baal baal bach gaya bhai tu
@@sasnad3 haha don't i know it
Thanks Faisal bhai for broadcasting a great interview based on truthful and legitimate information. Every well educated Pakistani is feeling the deep pain hidden in the words of Dr. Shujjat mubarik sahib. May Allah blessed Pakistan with economic prosperity and political stability Amin.
Betrayers are never blessed with prosperity and stability. India was betrayed.
I feel fortunate. Dr. SB was my economics teacher, and he was brilliant with his academics and projects. Every "Raftarar" will agree that comparing earnings from ten years ago to now is either equal to or lower than that.. (چکر لگاتے رھیے گا مگر واپسی کا نا سوچئے گا۔ کیونکہ جس ملک نے آپ کو عزت اور روزگار دیا یہ اس ملک کے ساتھ ںاانصافی ھو گی)
Bus kerdo ek baar pfgi e say bahar nahi ata thaa... na kam na kuch .. busbatain kerwalo
What a gem 💎
Salute to Dr. Sahib. Hope he comes back one day and takes us forward.
Alhamdollilah, I moved out of Pakistan 18 years ago. Situation in Pakistan was not that bad at that time and many people asked me not to leave Pakistan. I am glad that I didn't listen to them at that time. My kids were very young when they arrived here. Now they don't want to go back and love this beautiful country. Corrupt mafia has made Pakistan un-liveable.
@kazsid2995 same as my story. Even the time line.
It is sad to see Pakistan is being destroyed and nobody can do anything. Evil is ruling the country and the Good is leaving the country. May Allah Help the people of Pakistan. Ameen. Raftar keep this going.
What a difference there is between an educated person and an illiterate person.The heart was happy after hearing the conversation of the professor❤❤
And now thanks to Asim Munir!!
Bap hai tumhara asim.
@@ArsalanGhoruiThat’s the sick mentality
@@ArsalanGhoruighareed farooqi app ke mama han ?
No one likes to leave their country of birth. But when people like me see Pakistan's law and order situation , I thank Allah SWT for saving my family and I from his wrath.
Buhat he Zabardast ! , sab dil ke batain aur wo b saf saf 👍 , Well Done Raftar !
I am one who came back to Pakistan after living in USA for 36 years. Of course my circumstances are different but at least there is an example. I have been in Karachi suburb (BTK) for about 3 years now
BTW BTK is very good place for retired people
@@farazahmed6295agreed 100 percent.
It seems like he is pouring my heart out.
Hail imran khan 🎉🎉🎉
Save democracy. Free pasthunistan.
Paki Punjabis need gulag treatment
I predict this situation back in 2009. When I was doing bank job after my bba in 2007. Toxic work culture no safety in roads. Political strikes load shedding and other issues. I decided to move and came to Australia in 2010 for Masters in Accounting and now Allhumdullia now I am citizen and doing very decent job here. Nothing is change yet as my predictions were absolutely right .
I predicted it in 1989, and left the building
میں بھی جہاز میں بیٹھ کے بہت رویا تھا بس فرق یہ ہے کہ وہ آنسو خوشی کے تھے 🥹🥹
Hahah..lanat!
Really voice of majority ppl in pakistan, wish to get guidance from this wonderful man
Mai bhi un khushnaseebo me hoon jo do mahinay pehlay iss qaid se azad honay mai kamyaab hua.
Interviewee se darkhwast hai ke soil woil bhool jain
SHaram karo pakistan tumhara mulk pehchann hai
Came back to Pakistan before 2 years and facing alot of challenges, may Allah maakes it easy for all. aamen
The name of the Chaudhary is Nizam Deen
I was 21 years old.
I left pakistan in 2009.
Never went back.
What I was capable of doing after leaving pakistan was just amazing.
So unfortunate for our country.
For the past 15 years I travel to pakistan every year, trying to find 1 reason to return back, unfortunately just seeing worse as years go by.
Sir how you are going and in which country you are and what are you doing ❤❤❤❤❤❤
I was a student of his at MAJU from 2011 to 2013, where I studied economics, and whatever he mentioned, I have been experiencing during my banking tenure of 10 years, like he said, I have experienced the same thing, which he mentioned last point where he was complacent, I have experienced the same reaction from the society, although during those time, many individuals were supportive to me, but the societal reactions he was mentioning, I clearly experienced the same, Sir.
This is a great interview, very informative. The guest shared some heartfelt comments on his personal decisions and his thoughts on the broader landscape. I wish him all the best in his journey.
The reality is he is a classic first generation immigration story. Ties to the motherland, hopes of returning one day, missing friends & family, nostalgia for the sights and sounds etc, this is to be expected.
But with my experience of a second generation Pakistani, with (now third generation) teenage children, people should realise they are gone for good. There is no coming back. There is no place in Pakistan for people like us and the country & it's elite has nothing to offer us.
My humble experience to those emigrating would be to understand this is a "forever" decision. It will be hard for you, but your future generations will thank you for it.
The problems in Pakistan need to be owned and addressed by the people living there. The emotional guilt and entitlement they deploy on first generation Pakistanis really sickens me. It stops them from mentally moving on and create a rift with their children.
he is talking our hearts
I was convinced by my father to leave Pakistan 6 years ago although I left unwillingly but now I feel that was the best decision of my life which he helped me took.
BTW I tried going back after I finished my masters degree spent 5 months trying to hang-on to something and stay but didn’t happened.
As someone who has moved to Scotland last year, i totally relate to what Dr sb is saying!
Edinburgh is best
I can feel your words man. I am also one of this type of victim and literally its too hard to leave your country behind.
And in the end we wish " Mera taboot hi shyd Pakistan wapis jae".🥲
Can feel the pain but grass is not greener on the other side as well (or at least that greener what we think from Pakistan). I would suggest to do the program or at least a research on how many people succeeded in their professions when they left the country. How are they surviving in their social and economical lives and how much debt each person is carrying to live a reasonable life. It is nothing to challenge but there are harsh facts waiting on the other side of the world as well. Lost of identity for generations to come is one of the biggest issues as well. Following religion as it is supposed be is everyday challenge etc. Good job Raftar, you guys are doing excellent job!
I completed my bachelors in 2012 and worked for a private company for almost 2 years. In those 2 years i realized there was no way i would be able to support my family unless i compromised on my morals and started taking money under the table. I left Pakistan that year and the only regret i have is not being able to see my parents more regularly
The way he conveyed truthfully every aspect! , amazing.
He is one of the finest Gentleman, an intellectual. It is shame to see that INTELLECTUALS like DR. SHUJA are leaving Pakistan just because of Economic Situation!!!!
Karachi Soba Zaruri hai,
Karachi ko suba bananay se kuch nai hoga. Pakistan's issues stem from corruption, inaptitude and mismanagement from top to bottom, ek aur suba bun bhi gaya to ye maslay usher bhi aapko Nazar aaien gay
Great personality.
100% agree
Bus kerdo.. yehan koi kaa, nhi kerta thaa yeh.. office mai para rehta thaa
I left Pakistan to move a western country over 6 years ago. My reasons are law and order and exploitation by corporate sector who abuse employees. There is no justice in Pakistan and Alhamdulilah Allah saved me from this country.
What job you are in that country
But who will save your residing country which you are dreaming to make Pakistan
My teacher in Mohammad Ali Jinnah University during my MBA. A Great man
Dr. Sahab is representing every Pakistani except few Ashrafiya.
Ya Allah Hamen bhi is bhari dil k 7 Kisi foreign country mn settle krwa de . Jo bhi aameen likhe ga usy bhi dukh milega
Aameen 😊
yaallah doctor sahab ko kamyabi hasil hoo ameen
Please save my home city Parachinar.
Parachinar under attack
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Pakistan
Kaisey
Bhai, pooray Pakistan ko save karnay ka time aa gaya hai inn Madurchod Generals se. They have ruined the future of 25 crore people.
This is a story of any and every Pakistani. He is no different however there must be some reason for inviting him for this interview
Great Reflection. A reality.
Hail imran khan 🎉🎉🎉
Save democracy. Free pasthunistan.
میں نے چند سال پہلے پاکستان چھوڑا، اور الحمدللہ، پی ایچ ڈی مکمل کرنے کے بعد فخر سے اپنے نئے ملک کی خدمت کر رہا ہوں۔ وہ پاکستانی ادارہ جس سے کبھی بےپناہ محبت تھی، آج میرے لیے سب سے زیادہ نفرت کا باعث بن چکا ہے۔ اس ادارے نے ملک کی بنیادیں ہلا کر رکھ دی ہیں۔ میں صرف امید ہی کر سکتا ہوں کہ یہ ادارہ (جس کے سربراہ اور کرتا دھرتا ایف اے پاس لوگ ہیں) یہ سمجھ سکے کہ صرف حقیقی تعلیم یافتہ اور قابل افراد ہی ایک قوم کو کامیابی کی راہ پر گامزن کر سکتے ہیں۔
Pakistan se Zindabhaag!!
Agree with him 100%
I left P K 30 yr ago for good and that was the best decision of my life no regrets
It would really be too good if the people because of whom the youth have to leave, watch this post and feel some guilt and shame
My salute to Raftar team gor raising such important issues.
Sad to know he left Pakistan. Was his student in MAJU ,as a lecturer he was approachable , humble ,critical thinker and very helpful to his students.
All the best DR Shujaat Mubarak.
What about Sir Babar Saleem?
Pakistan m puri study ki m ny become a medical doctor but facing low salary issues and no safety and security at all now in Singapore happily living life alhamdulillah but dill nhe tha mera bhi Pakistan chorny ka 💔
I'm in dubai.. choti job krta hon.. ab ghr nhi ja sakta bhot dil krta ha parents sy milny ka
❤ journalism is 10/10. But corrupt regime doesn't cares because there is no accountability.
Fix the basic necessaties: Water, electricity, gas, road and transport.
My Guru 😢
He is 110% right.
what is this love for soil?! my mother died in June we burried her here in a peaceful cemetery. I am living in N. America for almost 35. years
مقبوضہ کراچی جس دن کراچی والوں کو واپس کر دو گے اس دن یہ اکیلا شہر ہی پورے ملک کو پال لے گا۔
Crore commanders aur bhutto ne bera gharak kardia hai Karachi aur sindh ka.
Karachi wle asal kon hain? Khud sary mahajir hain india se aye howe or dusre shehron se koi ajae to taklef hojati
واہ۔ بہترین۔ مقبوضہ کراچی
@@muhammadhamza1365hmse pichli nasal migrant hn hm nhi
Jo ghiar muqami arha ha Karachi ko apna nhi samjhta usne srf khana kamana aur hagna ja k gao main hota ha
Ghair muqami ki phle zarorat thi na ab ha
@@PunditMolvi karachi wlon ne leader k name p altaf hussain qatil paida kiya bss
Thank god I left 30 years ago to USA
Good channel for informative videos
My project supervisor .
Can your share your contact details with me? I have to discuss someyimg with you?
No words 😶 Raftar ❤
Good luck on your endeavors ... I can feel your pain ... its a big loss for Pakistan ...
VERY WELL SAID SIR. SAME PAIN FOR EVERY PATRIOTS PAKISTANI WHO LIVE OUT OF PAKISTAN 🇵🇰.
Hail imran khan 🎉🎉🎉
Save democracy. Free pasthunistan.
Very informative. Thank you
Sir main Pakistan 🇵🇰 k 3rd largest city (Faisalabad) se hun or abhi 5 saal se zyada ho gay qatar 🇶🇦 main hun. Faisalabad yeh wo shehar ha jo is mulak ki economy main tesry number py sabse zyada contribute karta ha. Sir last month main Pakistan 🇵🇰 se wapis aya hun yakeen karen dobara jany ko dil nai kar raha kun k kachra koi rule and law nahi police waly har chowk main kharhy hn chalan k ley. Har chowk main jump bna dey hn thora plane jump k bagair road ata ha to wahan py khady parhy hn koi b a ky apko maar deta ha mobile cheen leta ha. Insecurity bohat ha. Inteeha pasandi jahalat is mulak main bohat ha. Ager apky pass acha paisa b
Kali vigo ya Land Cruiser wagera nai ha to apki koi izat nai or na koi sunyga apki. Or koi b banda emandari se kaam nai kar raha kisi idary main 🇵🇰 but I am still in love with Pakistan 💔🇵🇰🍂
which type of job you are doing in qatar i am also from faisalabad
so many relatable things which drove me away from Pakistan....... I hope one day Pakistan will be a better place, and that can only happen when every institution stays in its own territory. there is no other way
Excellent information and analysis. He has tried to explain the core issues which is making Pakistan a difficult country to live. May be in the coming future this country will be difficult to survive as present due to its unique geographical location...
Everything is rightly said. Can't agree more!
Hail imran khan 🎉🎉🎉
Save democracy. Free pasthunistan.
Sad 😢situation. He is right that in last 3 years things got worse from bad. It’s irreversible now
ان کے آ نے سے جو ا جاتی ھے منہ پہ رونق وہ سمجھتے ھیں کہ بیمار کا حال اچھا ھے
Bitter truth excellent decision to leave this country. Aik din sirf army or garnails hi reh jyn gy is Pakistan main.
Sach ❤.. ma dubai ma hon ab kahan jayen btao nah ghr ja sakty hn nah parents sy mil sakty hn
Very true I’m 100% agree with him
He is very negative minded person
I lived abroad for many years and l know what challenges he is going to face in future and will regret his decision of moving abroad but it will be too late for him to return back
If you are educated enough you can survive my uncle also moved to uk with his family and everything is going well for him there
Better to cry in Western than in Pakistan@@SMian-ed7ld
If a well educated and qualified person of Pakistan like Dr. Shujaat mubarak have THREE kids then Pakistan is really in trouble 😂😂😂
Naam yad nhi is bachay k talk shows may dekhty theee
Directly Dr. Sab is pointing out Army
We both are Drs and left pakistan after getting threats for killing 13 yrs ago, now we and our kids one Engineer and 1 Teacher are serving in Canada our services which is very sad that talent should be for our country but we might not be alive if we were their...... my husband use to say mein akhri banda hoonga jo apna mulk chor kar jaoonga mera America Canada yahin hai..........
Jaise hero chunoge waise banoge
What a man ❤
socio economic and political discussion of normal man must be more like this
Why to eulogize.Its a small world in today's era. People do go for work and for better living. You are an international teacher and your kids international student.Come and go Pakistan and sent remittance. Hope insha'Allah our country will again be called the land of doctors and engineers. Good luck
Pakistan's politicians, feudal lords , officers above grade 22 , and all Army Generals , Travel on Diplomatic Passport ( Blue colour not the green) . And on this passport the visa questions answers and conditions also are different. At least no any country's immigration stops you or resist against your entry.
Faisal is also waiting for THE CHANCE 😂
I'm sure almost all viewers searched for Global Talent Visa after watching this video :)
Best Boss I where work with him
Can your share your contact details with me? I have to discuss someyimg with you?
worst mentality is when they say one day ill come back, youre out stay out setup your new world there. If you have this mentality of going back you never settle in a place properly.
lol if u get a chance u will be the first to go - classic jealousy and insecure syndrome
When you get a chance to travel abroad on a work visa, you will fly as soon as possible and never consider the second thought. Therefore, do not blame others for the desire for his family's welfare and wants to save from the hell of Pakistan.
@@Ecofin89agree 💯%
@@ZainAli-y9j7i I don’t think you understood my point what I mean is once you move out of Pakistan then stay out and don’t think about moving back. This leaves you hanging and you don’t make the right decisions in life because you always have this ‘I’ll go back’ one day mentality. I know many people that built homes in Pakistan living in USA and Canada thinking they will go back live there and that’s definitely not happening in most cases. Built your home where you live.
PhDs k salary 15 KO khatam hojate hai aur government officers Dubai aur America ghoomne jatee Hain. Koi inko pchne wala nahee.
Dr. Sahab bht preshan hen. Zahir c baat hai hongy, Becharay ki 7 baar tapish zinda hui hai..
very emotional but very true state of affiars in this podcast detailed by Dr Shujaat. I myself living in London and i m same age as of Dr Shujaat , 42, feel very sorry for the people of Pakistan and to my country too. hamain hamare hi logo nay apnay say itna duur kar dya hay sirf najaiz power hasil karne, hukumrani ki seat par baithnay aur paison ki hawas nay...kahtay hain hum Muslim hain, sab say zayada huffaz hamare mulk main hain, sab say zayada mosques, sab say zayada charity , sab say zayada zakat , sab say zayada umrah ..sab is mulk say hota hay aur phior bhi hum dunya ki top 5 worst country in terms of judicial system, passport, law and order, human rights, educational system, health sector and security ...yay sab hay hamare haan..kon hamain yahan tak laaya hay..sab ko pata hay..aur yay sab jaantay huay bhi hidayat nahi milti in bad-bakhton ko...sirf afsos hi hota hay aur aisa lagta hay kay in choron, luteron, karta dhartaon ko bura bhala kahnay kay bajaye khud hum hi buray hongay, tab hi to hamare aa'maal ki saza hamain is mulk ki aisi halat ho kar mil rahi hay..Kaash Pakistan europe ya even middle east countries ki tarah hi jho jaye in terms of those benefits jo main nay abhi oper bataye hain, to koi is mulk ko chor kar na jaye..
I am living in London and hope to see and meet Dr shujaat in scotland soon... Team Raftar, if there is any possibbilty u can give me or DM me dr. sahib's contact info, like email waghera(ofcourse watsapp ya mobile number to nahi mil sakta for security reasons) , plzz share with me..I wish i meet Dr sahib soon as scotland is in the North of UK, its a matter of 8 hours drive..Hope I meet him soon.
And as usual Wellsone Faisal for bringing yet another eye-opening podcast at ur platform..Keep it up your good hard worf!!
yar hum yaha Phassy huway hain hum kya karin Koi Degree nahi just Small business ha bhr jany k Passy nahi or yaha guzzara nahi
😅
Chaudhary ka dera 💯 agreed 👍🏻
Can we sort solutions to solve for live in pakistan
Agar mujhai b moqa mile is mulk se jane ka to main kbi wapas nai ana chaho ga
My country India is great
پاکستان زندہ باد
@@mujahidshaikh3318 murti pooja ghalat hai, mushrik ki maafi nahi
@@muhammadsaeed6057har jagah mazhab ghusa dete hon, tabhi porkiyo ye hal hai tumhare pakistan ki
It's great but not perfect. We have long way to go
Brother i am muslim hum murti puja nahi karte.
@@muhammadsaeed6057
Next video should b on BIEK.
I left Pakistan on 2nd Feb 1972. Things were bad for middle class back then. No job after doing Bsc . No money to bribe or any big time connections. Never been a victim of street crime up till now here. You took street crime as it happens everywhere. Karachi was safe at 2 in the morning. Since then these criminals on the top have destroyed the country. You people have no idea. When we go on vacation we let the police know that we will be gone for 4 weeks. They do extra patrolling around the house. You can’t even think about this in Pakistan. I don’t see bright future for you guys. Last 4 years has been the worst. I agree one institution is too powerful.
sir karachi waly incedent Taqi usmani ko batao un k pass kamran tusuri jaisa azeem comandar hai
There is a horrible situation in Pakistan for the teachers especially those who are working with private sector universities.
44:58 ان کے دیکھے سے جو آجاتی ہے منہ پر رونق
وہ سمجھتے ہیں کہ بیمار کا حال اچھا ہے
I agree beta aap kisi bhi mulk ko dekho tou hum ko apnay mulk kee haalat ka ziada pata lagta hai
Invite dr zesshan hassan usmani as well
HAR PAKISTANI K DIL KAA HAAL
100% true... I live in Scotland and this country is even better than England in terms of everything Dr Shujaat is saying.... Scotland is the best place in the UK.
Aap log paunch jaoge ab vo jagah bhi gandi ho jayegi.
@ khao littar fouj se aur PDM se… issi like ho tm log
@@ARPakistani ni ham to apki fauz ko thhokne ka kam karte hain.
@@ARPakistani Ireland?
Edinburgh is best
PPP and PMLN has hate for Karachi and Urdu speaking