This video is from 13 years ago... now anno 2024 planar headphones are as cheap as 144 euro and come in a gaming headset called the Sony Pulse Elite for the Sony Playstation 5, and I am using them to listen to your video about the technology in this headphones. I doubt my Pulse Elite has goldleaf traces but they sure sound good and a lot more responsive in the entire frequency spectrum, which also clears up the sound stage a lot.
After watching multiple YT videos on how does planar headphones work - this one is the FIRST (!) that finally explained it's mechanism to me. Thank You Sir! Thank You a lot!
Awesome video!!! I recently became enamored with planar’s when I found their existence! And I know it’s ten years on but I bought a pair of the Drop/Hifiman HE5XX can’s and they sound amazing, but one day I hope to hear a range of the different one’s out there :)
Tyll I hope you are off on a beach somewhere man! I am taking apart my Hifiman AnandaBT right now. It is covered by 5 plastic ribs that are distorting the sound but I am riskily going to change that!!!
I wonder if the extreme magnetic properties could cause brain cancer after extended use? You saw how powerful and far reaching the field is on these magnets.
Late reply, but.. the magnets are aligned inside in such a way that the flux is trapped within the inside of the diaphragm. He's able to show you the field because he's taken it off. You can see the amount of force it'll extert on the diaphragm. The force increases squared to the inverse of distance.
Tyll. I think when he was carefully disassembling the HE6, it crashed into itself due to the magnets and basically $1200 went down the drain in a second. You can see him sniffling quite a bit in this video.
tHANK YOU SOMUCH FOR putting up this video..its the first time for me get and understanding of Planar Magnetic theory..let alone i heard it only today! i am looking for a wireless in ear head pne system and i was planning to buy the "SA1 W-1 SA1 W-1 Wireless Earphones" unfortunately they are out of stock..it would be wonderful if you can give me any advice on such a device..my requirments are..not high end :-), cost effective, good quality, in ear, wirless :-) thank you thank you thank you
Thanks and is appreciated. Can you please recommend any non-Audeze drivers that can fit in LCD-2? The Audeze repair or replacement drivers are very expensive. Thanks
He's trying so hard not to sound sad...It reminds me of when I broke the neck on my Gretsch Double Jet, except there was a lot more more sulking and less dissecting.
I just destroyed a planar driver taking it apart. The magent slipped and streched the diaphragm. Honestly I would have had more fun watching 300 dollars burn.
I have LCD-X and left side is dead. I was wondering if I can fix it. I have already taken out the assembly like you have, but I am afraid to go further.
since it's a film with with metal in it, and not evenly distributed. does that mean that certain frequencies will be dampened and some amplified? since the metal has a different resonating frequency then the film? they add (those freq) and will distort the sound in that way and also will change the freq response in unexpected ways due to the metal not really being one piece (which i get you need the current to follow a path to make a field) but atleast make the gaps closer together. are there any freq response test for these things ?
Lol I find it absolutely freaking HILARIOUS that HiFiMan is STILL, LITERALLY TEN YEARS LATER using those EXACT SAME plastic driver enclosures in brand new products! 🤣 (Like the early 2021 released HE400se's for an example.)
This is fascinating. Question: Does the powerful magnetic field around your head give you superpowers over time? And if the answer is 'yes' what kinds of powers are involved? Would buying a $2000 pair instead of a $500 pair provide me a quicker path to this power?
The film on my he 400s has like dents or ripples in it's diaphram on both sides but different, is that final tuning to match the drivers better? Or do the he400s use faulty he 400i drivers. Maybe my set is faulty but they sound great so idk.
With as bad as the camera work is with the reflections on the diaphragms I can't believe you actually uploaded this after editing it instead of just refilling it so that we could see. It's not like it would take you hours to reshoot it just reshoot that part and throw away this video start over
now i understand (subscribed!)... does orthodynamic drivers has the same working principle like the planar magnetic driver? how about electrostatic?... please do videos on them. :)
was looking for earphone planar driver, how is it look a like.. but never found it. i curious about the inside of Shuoer S12 planar driver or the other planar earphone.. bcs it must extremely super thin trace of the driver anddd can someone repair it? 🤯
If the cost wasn't so prohibitive I'd love to get a pair of planar magnetic drivers and make a custom pair of headphones for myself. Sounds like this system is the absolute best as far as headphones go. Looks like for now I'll be sticking exclusively to my UE IEMs though.
Hifiman offers planars for a decent cost now sir. The He-400's can be bought for about $249-$299. The He-500 can be found for a good price as well if you know where to look.
Yes it will. Depending on the directions of the magnetic fields the effect will be different. In theory even the screws would affect the magnetic field if they're made from ordinary steel. That of course is negligible.
Manufacturers use different materials. The most common are kapton and mylar. The thickness of the foil is more important. It should be as thin as possible. The high end headphones have foil that is 1um or even less. The biggest unknown would be how they make the tracks on the foil and again every manufacturer probably uses different techniques and materials but no one is telling what.
@@svetko05 i accidentally let my headphones clap together as soon as I unboxed them, would this stretch the diaphragm and change the sound? Or would it just tear if damage were ever to occur?
No me lo van a creer. Pero yo me imaginaba que los audífonos magnéticos tenían una bocina que creo que todos conocemos que es la que tiene cono y un gran imán trasero. Mi idea de audífonos magnéticos era que tenían una bocina con un iman del tamaño del cono pero más comprimido para no tener dos bocinas de microcomponente en los oídos. Y apenas me vengo enterando que solo son unas láminas que parecen una placa de un aparato cualquiera. Osea. Es la primera vez que veo una bocinas así. Es más. No sé si llamarlas bocinas o no se que pedo. Ahora. Mi pregunta es. Cómo mierdas hace para que suenen los bajos o graves??. Osea. En una bocina normal, el cono vibra y se levanta. Pero aquí como coño lo hace????
Tyll destroying hundreds of dollars in equipment just so he can educate us on planar headphone stuff. I appreciate it, man!
*thousands
I realize Im kind of off topic but does anyone know a good website to stream newly released tv shows online?
@@bjornkieran9595 Soap2day
This video is from 13 years ago... now anno 2024 planar headphones are as cheap as 144 euro and come in a gaming headset called the Sony Pulse Elite for the Sony Playstation 5, and I am using them to listen to your video about the technology in this headphones. I doubt my Pulse Elite has goldleaf traces but they sure sound good and a lot more responsive in the entire frequency spectrum, which also clears up the sound stage a lot.
the part where you said 'don't do this at home' was hilarious.
Oof. That moment of silence was heartbreaking. When he looked back into the camera it really looked like he needed a hug.
After watching multiple YT videos on how does planar headphones work - this one is the FIRST (!) that finally explained it's mechanism to me. Thank You Sir! Thank You a lot!
Never heard of planar magnetic drivers before today! Absolutely fascinating and instructional teardown. Thank you!
It's also beginning to get implemented in earphones these days, FYI
Tyll, don't tell me that you broke a pair of Audeze and HiFiMAN HPs to make this video!! Thanks either way!
Amazing . Thank you for showing the interior. I was curious about how they work
Snazzy Labs brought me here :) Really wondered how they work.
You are one of a kind, thank you for all your help throughout the years.
You sacrificed those headphones for us, thank you
Awesome video and beautiful (and expensive) physics lecture. Thanks Tyll!
Interesting to see how these things looks inside. Thanks for doing the video.
Thank you so much for this awesome informative video. Please keep them coming, as I would love to see more inner workings of other headphones!
Awesome video!!! I recently became enamored with planar’s when I found their existence! And I know it’s ten years on but I bought a pair of the Drop/Hifiman HE5XX can’s and they sound amazing, but one day I hope to hear a range of the different one’s out there :)
We missed you Tyll!
Fascinating stuff, thanks Tyll!
I appreciate your effort mister. Sorry for your loss of headphones over there...
"I've completely broken this pair", I would rather cry than laugh at that statement
Yea but maybe the stuff he gets is sponsored by audeze or maybe he is part of the team
Z reviews brought me here, thanks for the info!!
+Rin Price Same
same
+Rin Price Same ;3
same
Strange, I thought I was the only one who wanted to know more after watching Z Reviews..............
Thank you for this video, i am so fascinated with planar magnetic drivers but wouldn't dare try and open up my headphones to see them
Tyll I hope you are off on a beach somewhere man! I am taking apart my Hifiman AnandaBT right now. It is covered by 5 plastic ribs that are distorting the sound but I am riskily going to change that!!!
Distorting the sound from a crazy HD800 owner's perspective haha
Really want to thank you for giving us a look at something most of us were curious to see but most likely would never get to.
Great video! Just got a pair of he 400's and am in love with them. I knew somewhat how it worked but this helped a lot.
It's basically like a Magnepan, but in miniature. However, I think all of their speakers are quasi-ribbon now, but the basic function is the same.
3:03 "Very fragile" - painful silence...
I wonder if the extreme magnetic properties could cause brain cancer after extended use? You saw how powerful and far reaching the field is on these magnets.
Late reply, but.. the magnets are aligned inside in such a way that the flux is trapped within the inside of the diaphragm. He's able to show you the field because he's taken it off. You can see the amount of force it'll extert on the diaphragm. The force increases squared to the inverse of distance.
I Recently Got An IEM Called LetShouer S12 a planar IEM that sounds amazing
Broke the diaphragm while disassembling the drivers. So absolutely not recommended to do that. The magnets are VERY strong and they snap pretty hard.
Thanks! Interesting video!
Are there 2 magnet assemblies, with the diaphragm sandwiches between them?
Tyll. I think when he was carefully disassembling the HE6, it crashed into itself due to the magnets and basically $1200 went down the drain in a second. You can see him sniffling quite a bit in this video.
Really instructive video Tyll thanks a lot for sharing ! I own a couple of planar and wondered how they worked well now I know !
tHANK YOU SOMUCH FOR putting up this video..its the first time for me get and understanding of Planar Magnetic theory..let alone i heard it only today! i am looking for a wireless in ear head pne system and i was planning to buy the "SA1 W-1
SA1 W-1 Wireless Earphones" unfortunately they are out of stock..it would be wonderful if you can give me any advice on such a device..my requirments are..not high end :-), cost effective, good quality, in ear, wirless :-) thank you thank you thank you
Thanks and is appreciated. Can you please recommend any non-Audeze drivers that can fit in LCD-2? The Audeze repair or replacement drivers are very expensive. Thanks
He's trying so hard not to sound sad...It reminds me of when I broke the neck on my Gretsch Double Jet, except there was a lot more more sulking and less dissecting.
Thank u for the video
I learned something today 😊
I just destroyed a planar driver taking it apart. The magent slipped and streched the diaphragm. Honestly I would have had more fun watching 300 dollars burn.
"dont do that at home"
me: "I dont have that at home"
I have LCD-X and left side is dead. I was wondering if I can fix it. I have already taken out the assembly like you have, but I am afraid to go further.
Very interesting to see how these headphones work.
I love you for this video, because I would have never done this.
why would they go with gold for the coil instead of the much better conductivity to weight aluminum? is it the glue that is gold colour?
Very informative, subbed.
Is there a way to fix this 😅 mine broke do to being 30000 ft in the air....woohoo got that tinny ripple sound...can I pop it back or use glue....
since it's a film with with metal in it, and not evenly distributed. does that mean that certain frequencies will be dampened and some amplified? since the metal has a different resonating frequency then the film? they add (those freq) and will distort the sound in that way and also will change the freq response in unexpected ways due to the metal not really being one piece (which i get you need the current to follow a path to make a field) but atleast make the gaps closer together. are there any freq response test for these things ?
Lol I find it absolutely freaking HILARIOUS that HiFiMan is STILL, LITERALLY TEN YEARS LATER using those EXACT SAME plastic driver enclosures in brand new products! 🤣 (Like the early 2021 released HE400se's for an example.)
@avengedtheater Orthodynamic = Yamaha's marketing term for planar magnetic.
This is fascinating. Question: Does the powerful magnetic field around your head give you superpowers over time? And if the answer is 'yes' what kinds of powers are involved? Would buying a $2000 pair instead of a $500 pair provide me a quicker path to this power?
The film on my he 400s has like dents or ripples in it's diaphram on both sides but different, is that final tuning to match the drivers better? Or do the he400s use faulty he 400i drivers. Maybe my set is faulty but they sound great so idk.
Very enlightening! Thanks for breaking yours so I don't have to break mine!
Listening about planar magnetic drivers through dynamic drivers. Irony? I don't know.
With as bad as the camera work is with the reflections on the diaphragms I can't believe you actually uploaded this after editing it instead of just refilling it so that we could see. It's not like it would take you hours to reshoot it just reshoot that part and throw away this video start over
now i understand (subscribed!)... does orthodynamic drivers has the same working principle like the planar magnetic driver? how about electrostatic?... please do videos on them. :)
How does this magnet differ from the magnet in the Fostex's that are being modified? Do these sound a lot better than the Fostex magnet?
@DoctaCosmos Yep he did. They will never sound the same again. But i know Tyl knows how to put them back together but they are now corrupted.
I'm looking for just one magnetic planar panel. Do you have one to spare?
was looking for earphone planar driver, how is it look a like.. but never found it. i curious about the inside of Shuoer S12 planar driver or the other planar earphone.. bcs it must extremely super thin trace of the driver anddd can someone repair it? 🤯
Pretty cool ?
It just WOW , i enjoyed the video so much, thank you
Pretty cool indeed! Thank you very much Tyll! Very good info!
Thanks for the video!
why are they in a alternating pattern ?
If the cost wasn't so prohibitive I'd love to get a pair of planar magnetic drivers and make a custom pair of headphones for myself. Sounds like this system is the absolute best as far as headphones go. Looks like for now I'll be sticking exclusively to my UE IEMs though.
Hifiman offers planars for a decent cost now sir. The He-400's can be bought for about $249-$299. The He-500 can be found for a good price as well if you know where to look.
+Zeke Do you know where a pair of these drivers can be bought? I'd love to build a pair of headphones with these drivers.
Thank You!!!
this leads me to believe to if you put a magnet on the outside of the cups, it would affect this isomagnetic field as you've shown. Is this accurate?
Yes it will. Depending on the directions of the magnetic fields the effect will be different.
In theory even the screws would affect the magnetic field if they're made from ordinary steel. That of course is negligible.
very good video, thank you for this
'Don't do this at home, I've completely broken this pair... '
Me halfway through the tutorial: O_O
Great video, thanks!
The Man!
Thank you
How did you break those?
where can i get a pair?
review the he 400i and pls explain to me about the single sided driver
RUclips don't pay him...
I respect you!
does the magnetic force gets to the brain?
Thanks for your sacrifice 🥰
I would be crying too if i had just ruined a $1200 pair of headphones
purely amazing
I feel with Maggie headphones that's a lot of voltage to have over your ears .
why you break this he 6?
It looks similar to a condenser microphone. 🤔
So cool!
You mentioned and showed the "Odyssey 2" driver, is that referring to the Sennheiser Odyssey headphones?
Audeze not Odyssey
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO ! KUDOS
Very neat. Thanks for the video. Sorry about your headphones!
Thanks man; awesome.
I think you mean Ron White looks like Tyll.
What is the diaphragm made of?
Manufacturers use different materials. The most common are kapton and mylar. The thickness of the foil is more important. It should be as thin as possible. The high end headphones have foil that is 1um or even less.
The biggest unknown would be how they make the tracks on the foil and again every manufacturer probably uses different techniques and materials but no one is telling what.
@@svetko05 i accidentally let my headphones clap together as soon as I unboxed them, would this stretch the diaphragm and change the sound? Or would it just tear if damage were ever to occur?
"very fragile" not good lol "brittle" lol wow I just bought audeze maxwells, im worried
i think he is a bit depressed about ruining a good headphone.
You look like Ron White.
No me lo van a creer. Pero yo me imaginaba que los audífonos magnéticos tenían una bocina que creo que todos conocemos que es la que tiene cono y un gran imán trasero. Mi idea de audífonos magnéticos era que tenían una bocina con un iman del tamaño del cono pero más comprimido para no tener dos bocinas de microcomponente en los oídos. Y apenas me vengo enterando que solo son unas láminas que parecen una placa de un aparato cualquiera. Osea. Es la primera vez que veo una bocinas así. Es más. No sé si llamarlas bocinas o no se que pedo. Ahora. Mi pregunta es. Cómo mierdas hace para que suenen los bajos o graves??. Osea. En una bocina normal, el cono vibra y se levanta. Pero aquí como coño lo hace????
You kind of look like Thomas Haden Church. Not meaning to be offensive or anything. Great video though regardless!
"Вы хотите кушац?"
How did you break those?
How rich are you?
lol don't do this at home:) I guess it's good to see what it's made of and how it kind of works but shame about the headphones being made unusable.
Это ж генка горин!! Вы што хотите слушацц музыку!?!
It's so weird to hear you talking about hi-fi with such a strong background noise..
But thanks for the info though!
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏
Am I watching a dating sim? :3
Is it safe put one human head between such huge magnetic field? It seems like putting a head in a microwave oven. MACRO wave in this case :)
Microwaves lol stick the thing on decent amp and you will probably generate x-rays