It simply needed a longer cooldown. This mania of BHVR of outright killing perks is just outrageous, especially if people bought the Alien for the perk.
Ultimate weapon + DMS was a big problem tho, a killer 30m away from you could block your gen for 30s, for pain res you can simply expect, but as a combo UW +DMS was super problematic
Longer cooldown really wouldn't have helped with the actual issues the perk has. I think Ultimate Weapon is just conceptually flawed since no matter what they do it's just too polarizing.
Here’s all that needed to happen: reduced effect time and cooldown. Instead they made another thing that gets affected by distortion (77 perks and addons now) and made it so that it causes blindness still so survivors still know their aura is being read. Even the newer rework it only affects a 15 metre range with the screams of the locker so that it will only be useful on smaller maps.
at this point, with how many times they keep changing UW, I can only imagine there is a physical fight going on at BHVR about what state this perk should be in
I think it’s crazy that the first change with the aura made it actually balanced and fun, and instead of keeping the auras they just said “fuck it” and butchered it into a waste of a slot.
@@Mercer526 I agree with you outside of the idea that ultimate weapon is countered the most by distortion. that has to go to I'm all ears, since it only ever activates in chase and has a 45 second cooldown, distortion, which regains stacks every 30 seconds including while in chase, regains stacks faster than I'm all ears can burn them.
@just_tired701 My idea comes from both ultimate weapon and distortion dealing with the killer's terror radius. Using I'm all ears on a stealth killer will eventually remove all the distortion stacks. However, because ultimate weapon requires a terror radius, distortion will always get filled back up before its used again.
@@Mercer526 while in chase you count as in the terror radius. So unless you’re managing quick chases on the distortion users, they will get their stacks back.
@just_tired701 so you can get your distortion stacks back in chase against a killer with trail of torment, a tier 1 myers, demanifested sadako, or by a cloaked ghostface? I don't think that's accurate.
so thrilled about an entire perk category being countered by a singular perk. especially since that perk category is one of the few that's worth running on M2 killers like billy and xeno! yaaaaaaay...
@@stillbadxd tbh i dont mind distortion i dont run a ton of aura perks anyway bc im colorblind i just think its cringe how they ultimate weapon from a unique info perk to another aura perk (although im kinda happy cause i was sick of playing against it every game)
@@just_tired701 Bringing aura reading is a 50/50 so if it gets countered then fair enough, thats on you. It’s like bringing an item against franklins or a flashlight against lightborn
I 100% agree. A nerf for UW was needed, but this was horrific. It's completely useless on big maps (I used to run it a lot on Plague), and the timing for blinding is so short that it may as well not be there. Their reasoning for all the changes was, "oh we're afraid higher level Killers will abuse the new change," so they changed it again, and now it's dog shit for EVERYONE. Meanwhile Distortion is entirely untouched so the rats will keep hiding in the walls.
Bhvr has a really bad problem of when a perk needs nerfed they nerf WAY WAY too hard making the perk just shit but there has been expectations like dead hard and adrenaline still being very good and more balanced
ultimate weapon, lethal pursuer, Iron maiden, darkness revealed on huntress is really good to use together with flower babushka and oak haft or glowing concoction and oak haft
0:44 Note: The following changes will be part of a future update. The perk will remain as it was on the PTB in the meantime. It's in this weird middle ground in between patches right now. Guess they just really wanted to nerf it no matter what cause people complained about the perk. And instead of just waiting for next patch to do anything they did this convoluted mess.
It makes me sad how mismanaged this game is. The ultimate weapon inconsistency and poor documentation really reveals how disorganised they are. With all the latest issues and long standing problems that cause player retention issues, DBD has to be the game with the most squandered potential.
i would argue its just as busted as before. You can now combine that perk with darkness revealed and it shows you aura if survivors across map near lockers and whilst ulti is procced you can leg it the location you seen survivor with darkness revealed and ultimate weapon will allow you to close down on them when your close. It may not seem powerful but combine those perks with someone like say oni when he is ready to go ra ra mode, open locker see survivors near lockers go ra ra mode and when you get closer to them ultimate weapon will show you exactly where they are. It is by far even more busted than before and i dont understand why no one else sees this. It also still applies blindness. im one of the worst oni players ever i really cant play him well but this combo after seeing it in a spookyloopz video, allowed even some trash oni player like me to get consistent downs in like 5 matches in row before i got bored of oni.
Bhvr almost always does 1 of 3 things. 1 wayyyy overnerf/buff something. 2 make a buff or nerf that wasnt necessary or barely did anything. 3 make a change that nobody asked for and was completely unnecessary but it was effective. However it is almost always to like huntress or trickster when it should be to trapper or freddy
I would've just reduced the active duration from 30 secs to 10 secs, then increase the cooldown from 30 secs to 60 secs, the scream and blindness effect can stay
In the patch notes for the Mid Chapter, they state that the changing back to screaming will happen in a future patch. So, we know it’s gonna eventually go back to that.
Ultimate weapon seriously only needed the duration changes. 15 seconds of activation, 15 seconds of blindness, and a 60 second cooldown. Making it completely useless just doesn't make sense
I dunno, i kinda like the new version of this perk. Sure, its not all powerful anymore, but that's good. It really was insanely overtuned before. Now its just an alright perk that isnt good on everyone but is good on some people. Just like most perks should be. Build variety is already so difficult to come by.. lets not make more op meta perks, but more balanced perks.
You took a wrong killer for this, most of the times you were cloaked and UW works with terror radius... so it wasn't really UW showcase if you can't activate the perk properly. Honestly as a survivor main who plays some killer i still like this perk but 15s/60s is kind of bad for a 3s aura :/
I hate this perk no matter what. Makes it impossible to escape when you're the last survivor alive in the match. Just open locker and you're screwed most of the time in solo queue
When it was screams perk, you could counter it with hiding in locker. But now you can't, so soloq survs are in pain. And killers in pain, cuz it a lot weaker then it was.
The issue wasn't the scream, it was the fact the effect followed you. They need to either make the scream instantly trigger within 32m of the locker and have a 60 second cooldown, or have it be aura that follows for a few seconds, revealing for a few seconds. Upon further thought, here's my idea: *Ultimate Weapon:* Upon opening a locker, any survivor that comes within 24m of it for the next 5 seconds will scream and reveal their location. It then goes on cooldown for 75/60/45 seconds.
They also ruined STBFL. How are you going to remove 2 of my goddamn stacks when I INFECT someone as Nemesis or Wesker. Not damage, INFECT. This is a similar type of bullshit as with Malenia in Elden Ring, how are you going to heal when your hit did ZERO damage to me.
Typical BHVR. Sees a perk is used a lot, and instead of saying "maybe let's bring other perks up to par", they just butcher it. Don't get me wrong, certain perks needed/need nerfs, but Ultimate Weapon? There was NOTHING wrong with it. Know what you do? When the killer opens a locker, after you scream, you... wait for it... leave the area. But, nah, that's too difficult, I guess. lol... Ultimate Weapon gets priority but FTP/Buckle Up still out here in the wild. Smh...
True I’m sure there’s nothing unhealthy about top tier killers running this perk to know where all survivors are to camp someone and there’s no reason it’s abused even in competitive, this perk was always perfectly balanced!
@@oneofthe12sionmains70 Also nothing unhealthy about it not only being the best information perk, but also allowing high mobility killers like nurse to manually trigger Deadman's Switch in a huge range before using her blinkback addon to return to camping, making it a tunnel friendly version of Grim Embrace that can proc on every hook instead of just the first per survivor.
@@Aquilenne right... the entire roster exists, but just in case someone plays Nurse, just nuke the perk into the ground. Can't possibly have a perk to find a survivors LAST KNOWN location. That shit's just way too op. I mean, what's survivors supposed to do? Move to a different area after they scream? Pfft. Asking too much, I know. Besides, it's not like there's a little icon on the screen telling you the perk was used so that you can respond accordingly. Oh wait....
Classic BHVR “let’s make a good meta perk on a licensed character so we can make money off the player base for essentially pay to win perks and then when people have had enough will nerf it so that way they wasted their money just like ash with mettle of man”
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It simply needed a longer cooldown. This mania of BHVR of outright killing perks is just outrageous, especially if people bought the Alien for the perk.
And made for this was gutted too , Its the same both for killer and survivor the unfairness of the changes ngl
Ultimate weapon + DMS was a big problem tho, a killer 30m away from you could block your gen for 30s, for pain res you can simply expect, but as a combo UW +DMS was super problematic
Longer cooldown really wouldn't have helped with the actual issues the perk has. I think Ultimate Weapon is just conceptually flawed since no matter what they do it's just too polarizing.
thats what happens when you cater to a whiny player base
Why would you buy a character solely for one perk In a game that consistently updates and makes changes? Just look for a new meta
Here’s all that needed to happen: reduced effect time and cooldown. Instead they made another thing that gets affected by distortion (77 perks and addons now) and made it so that it causes blindness still so survivors still know their aura is being read. Even the newer rework it only affects a 15 metre range with the screams of the locker so that it will only be useful on smaller maps.
at this point, with how many times they keep changing UW, I can only imagine there is a physical fight going on at BHVR about what state this perk should be in
I think it’s crazy that the first change with the aura made it actually balanced and fun, and instead of keeping the auras they just said “fuck it” and butchered it into a waste of a slot.
The aura change is stupid since it's even more directly countered by distortion than any other aura perk
@@Mercer526 I agree with you outside of the idea that ultimate weapon is countered the most by distortion. that has to go to I'm all ears, since it only ever activates in chase and has a 45 second cooldown, distortion, which regains stacks every 30 seconds including while in chase, regains stacks faster than I'm all ears can burn them.
@just_tired701 My idea comes from both ultimate weapon and distortion dealing with the killer's terror radius. Using I'm all ears on a stealth killer will eventually remove all the distortion stacks. However, because ultimate weapon requires a terror radius, distortion will always get filled back up before its used again.
@@Mercer526 while in chase you count as in the terror radius. So unless you’re managing quick chases on the distortion users, they will get their stacks back.
@just_tired701 so you can get your distortion stacks back in chase against a killer with trail of torment, a tier 1 myers, demanifested sadako, or by a cloaked ghostface? I don't think that's accurate.
bhvr when its time to make another perk that gets countered by distortion: 😎
i run only aura reading perks on huntress and i love playing against distortion :(((((((((
so thrilled about an entire perk category being countered by a singular perk. especially since that perk category is one of the few that's worth running on M2 killers like billy and xeno! yaaaaaaay...
@@stillbadxd tbh i dont mind distortion i dont run a ton of aura perks anyway bc im colorblind i just think its cringe how they ultimate weapon from a unique info perk to another aura perk (although im kinda happy cause i was sick of playing against it every game)
@@stillbadxd have you heard of a park called thrilling tremors?
@@just_tired701 Bringing aura reading is a 50/50 so if it gets countered then fair enough, thats on you. It’s like bringing an item against franklins or a flashlight against lightborn
12:57 made me laugh more than I should, and well I use nowhere to hide instead of UW, so not really bothered by the change to it.
I 100% agree. A nerf for UW was needed, but this was horrific. It's completely useless on big maps (I used to run it a lot on Plague), and the timing for blinding is so short that it may as well not be there. Their reasoning for all the changes was, "oh we're afraid higher level Killers will abuse the new change," so they changed it again, and now it's dog shit for EVERYONE. Meanwhile Distortion is entirely untouched so the rats will keep hiding in the walls.
Why not give it the Killer Instinct effect
There isn't many perks that give that affect
Bhvr has a really bad problem of when a perk needs nerfed they nerf WAY WAY too hard making the perk just shit but there has been expectations like dead hard and adrenaline still being very good and more balanced
Dead hard isn’t good anymore what do you mean LOL if you think the UW nerf was unreal then you know nothing of dead hard lol
ultimate weapon, lethal pursuer, Iron maiden, darkness revealed on huntress is really good to use together with flower babushka and oak haft or glowing concoction and oak haft
Distortion
@@CrazyTrios yeah but it will eat up distortion tokens you will still get value from it
Also all the tiers of the perk are exactly the same now, meaning it’s worthless to upgrade the perk
0:44 Note: The following changes will be part of a future update. The perk will remain as it was on the PTB in the meantime.
It's in this weird middle ground in between patches right now.
Guess they just really wanted to nerf it no matter what cause people complained about the perk.
And instead of just waiting for next patch to do anything they did this convoluted mess.
It makes me sad how mismanaged this game is. The ultimate weapon inconsistency and poor documentation really reveals how disorganised they are. With all the latest issues and long standing problems that cause player retention issues, DBD has to be the game with the most squandered potential.
It’s an 8 year old game, welcome to the reality of gaming in 2024
Yeah it still says scream for me
They did say that they did not change it yet from ptb to live,
This version came with the small update that changed the epilepsy thing.
The question that's been on my mind is does the Blindness actually last 3 seconds, or did someone mix up the effect lengths?
i would argue its just as busted as before. You can now combine that perk with darkness revealed and it shows you aura if survivors across map near lockers and whilst ulti is procced you can leg it the location you seen survivor with darkness revealed and ultimate weapon will allow you to close down on them when your close. It may not seem powerful but combine those perks with someone like say oni when he is ready to go ra ra mode, open locker see survivors near lockers go ra ra mode and when you get closer to them ultimate weapon will show you exactly where they are. It is by far even more busted than before and i dont understand why no one else sees this. It also still applies blindness. im one of the worst oni players ever i really cant play him well but this combo after seeing it in a spookyloopz video, allowed even some trash oni player like me to get consistent downs in like 5 matches in row before i got bored of oni.
I thought there was something wrong with that perk description because in no way 3 seconds of blind is viable change
Bhvr almost always does 1 of 3 things. 1 wayyyy overnerf/buff something. 2 make a buff or nerf that wasnt necessary or barely did anything. 3 make a change that nobody asked for and was completely unnecessary but it was effective. However it is almost always to like huntress or trickster when it should be to trapper or freddy
As far as I can tell, it's just no where to hide but for lockers.
Wouldn't be a Twoknee video without someone staring at a bird.
If I'm not mistaken the final change is that it's back to scream but with that blindness debuff as shown in the game. I think that's the final version
Wellp guess not because in-game it works differently so I'll shut up I guess 😅
regarding the limmy cut: he actually plays this game as i found out a few days ago! he has a twitch and everything
I was wondering why my distortion was working against ultimate weapon!
I would've just reduced the active duration from 30 secs to 10 secs, then increase the cooldown from 30 secs to 60 secs, the scream and blindness effect can stay
7:47 is about the best case i could imagine that this perk in undoubtedly op
In the patch notes for the Mid Chapter, they state that the changing back to screaming will happen in a future patch. So, we know it’s gonna eventually go back to that.
Just give it the effect of Killer Instinct
Now that would be powerful
Right that is a fair point, just kinda strange that they made this change in the meantime
@@Twoknee
can you please deal with the French Metal Menace
Getting blinded would be so annoying 😂
Ain't no way you spun like a ballerina to hit the man, lmao. But then again it's wraith he steps over vaults like a fruit cake.
Ultimate weapon used to be so fun with pigs head traps. Now it’s poop.
Darkness reveal should have a shorter cooldown
Ultimate weapon seriously only needed the duration changes. 15 seconds of activation, 15 seconds of blindness, and a 60 second cooldown. Making it completely useless just doesn't make sense
Ever since they changed barbecue and chilli the game hasnt been the same sense 😔😔😔
Why not make it whoever in the injured state will scream if in ur terror radius after opening a locker
I actually hated this perk tbh. Never ran it as killer and almost always played against it as survivor. The blind is extremely annoying in solo que.
😂😂 4:50 dwigt face
I dunno, i kinda like the new version of this perk. Sure, its not all powerful anymore, but that's good. It really was insanely overtuned before. Now its just an alright perk that isnt good on everyone but is good on some people. Just like most perks should be. Build variety is already so difficult to come by.. lets not make more op meta perks, but more balanced perks.
You took a wrong killer for this, most of the times you were cloaked and UW works with terror radius... so it wasn't really UW showcase if you can't activate the perk properly. Honestly as a survivor main who plays some killer i still like this perk but 15s/60s is kind of bad for a 3s aura :/
feel bad for people who needs perks to find survivors instead of using whispers that is way better and counters distortion
It does the same thing but aura it’s honestly better because it gives you there exact location
*Shadow Step and Distortion have entered the chat*
I just liked the screams 😐
@@TheReZisTLust then run dragongrip or infectious or face the darkness or make your choice or eruption
@@TheRealMycanthrope face the darkness 👀 when you still scream I’m burning through all you distortion tokens gearhead lethal and uw
@@epticmaniac5764 Gearhead? Bold of you to assume I hit great skill checks
Make the cooldown 60 seconds and it would have been in a better state
I hate this perk no matter what. Makes it impossible to escape when you're the last survivor alive in the match. Just open locker and you're screwed most of the time in solo queue
When it was screams perk, you could counter it with hiding in locker. But now you can't, so soloq survs are in pain. And killers in pain, cuz it a lot weaker then it was.
Half of these comments are wild, or bots perhaps even both
Honestly at first i thought it was gonna be the o’ll survivor vs killer thing but no it’s just bots😂 one of them is even french 😂
The issue wasn't the scream, it was the fact the effect followed you. They need to either make the scream instantly trigger within 32m of the locker and have a 60 second cooldown, or have it be aura that follows for a few seconds, revealing for a few seconds.
Upon further thought, here's my idea:
*Ultimate Weapon:* Upon opening a locker, any survivor that comes within 24m of it for the next 5 seconds will scream and reveal their location. It then goes on cooldown for 75/60/45 seconds.
I thought that’s what the rework was? It’d only activate within the lockers radius not the killers, and people got mad at that so they changed it back
@@krubyte497I think it was every locker at first
Almost at 75k
persona ost appritiated
1:11 this version was still a B tier perk it was decent now it’s in undone tier of useless
and I'm really happy because of it
increase the amount of lockers in the game, please.
They also ruined STBFL. How are you going to remove 2 of my goddamn stacks when I INFECT someone as Nemesis or Wesker. Not damage, INFECT. This is a similar type of bullshit as with Malenia in Elden Ring, how are you going to heal when your hit did ZERO damage to me.
missed u tony, first time watching a vid in awhile and im glad im back
Help somebody, anybody!?!
There's bots in the comments!!!
And worst of all....
they're speaking *French* ...
YEAAAAAAAH A NEW VIDEO
The cooldown is too high.
15 sec is to short it should be 30 and the aura need to be 5 sec at least
Considering how we can’t even play the game because of the constant lag spikes, the game is unplayable anyways
ultimate weapon, more like ultimate S**t
Ye i bought the perk and now its useless, so like, i want my shards back
Typical BHVR. Sees a perk is used a lot, and instead of saying "maybe let's bring other perks up to par", they just butcher it. Don't get me wrong, certain perks needed/need nerfs, but Ultimate Weapon? There was NOTHING wrong with it. Know what you do? When the killer opens a locker, after you scream, you... wait for it... leave the area. But, nah, that's too difficult, I guess. lol... Ultimate Weapon gets priority but FTP/Buckle Up still out here in the wild. Smh...
True I’m sure there’s nothing unhealthy about top tier killers running this perk to know where all survivors are to camp someone and there’s no reason it’s abused even in competitive, this perk was always perfectly balanced!
@@oneofthe12sionmains70 Also nothing unhealthy about it not only being the best information perk, but also allowing high mobility killers like nurse to manually trigger Deadman's Switch in a huge range before using her blinkback addon to return to camping, making it a tunnel friendly version of Grim Embrace that can proc on every hook instead of just the first per survivor.
@Aquilenne Oh great, another perk falls cuz Nurse exists so we can't have good things.
@@Aquilenne right... the entire roster exists, but just in case someone plays Nurse, just nuke the perk into the ground. Can't possibly have a perk to find a survivors LAST KNOWN location. That shit's just way too op. I mean, what's survivors supposed to do? Move to a different area after they scream? Pfft. Asking too much, I know. Besides, it's not like there's a little icon on the screen telling you the perk was used so that you can respond accordingly. Oh wait....
15 meters, that's pitiful
Ruininit
Glad it’s nerfed keep crying
Sounds like you already done all the crying 😂
2 views in 19 seconds?... Twoknee fell off since the Warden and Highlander reworks...
Classic BHVR “let’s make a good meta perk on a licensed character so we can make money off the player base for essentially pay to win perks and then when people have had enough will nerf it so that way they wasted their money just like ash with mettle of man”