Funny enough that part of the song, the first time I heard it was as a teen in my dark bedroom, late at night. It scared the CRAP out of me and I actually ran out of my room like "NOPE! NOPE!" 😂😂😂 After a few seconds to compose myself, I went back for _mooorrrrre_ 😄😄😄
That's the difference between us and the true geniuses. A lot of other people would have hooked back their pedal correctly and never given it another thought. My dad independently discovered fuzz when he was messing around with an amp, but because it wasn't popular at the time and he recognized it as a mistake, he fixed the wiring to get a clean amp and never thought twice about it. Had he realized what he stumbled into by accident, he would have been the coolest kid on the scene back then.
Cool story! A lot of happy accidents happened back in the early days of electronic music. It's hard to imagine today and it sounds a bit strange hearing how they talk about how they explored new sounds but you really need to put yourself in their shoes and realise that pedals, synths and even guitars we're pretty new at the time. Hank Marvin was apparently the first in the UK to get a Strat and that was in 1959, only about a decade before Pink Floyd wrote Echoes.
If I remember, the recording engineer that discovered it as a miswiring in his console hated it and wanted Marty Robbins' bassist to rerecord the part on a working channel. But, Marty liked the sound and kept it. Eventually, I think someone took the console apart to figure out how it was miswired and made the first effect pedal design out of it. Before then, artists were just stabbing the hell out of their speaker cones to get the tone. Artists tend to be explorative; engineers like consistency.
@@CosmicWaltz7 one of the channels in the console blew. The engineer was intrigued and started making circuits to try to purposefully reproduce the sound.
Weird, I was just listening to Echoes in the car yesterday and for the first time actually thought about what that sound was. I knew it was David's guitar but didnt know how he was doing it. On another note, this video drove my dog bonkers lol. Very cool!
I teach guitar and band at a Danish music school. About a year ago, one of my students (a 15 year old boy) had just borrowed a Cry Baby wah pedal, and he plugged it in the wrong way, probably because we read from left to right. That very second, the 1971 version of David Gilmour was in the room. Same mistake, same sound.
Absolutely great. Many thanks Bjorn. I've done this for Is There Anybody Out There live, based on an earlier video you made. But now to work on Echoes with the extra insights here. (The best bit about this is that I don't have to play any notes on any strings!!!)
The funny thing is my Middle record was jumping in loop exactly in this part of Echoes. I had to move the needle a bit to hear the rest of the piece. Years later when I bought the CD, I was very disappointed not to find that looping spot. It still part of my musical memory.
Always wondered how David got that sound. I figured he had some special piece of electronic equipment. I’m definitely going to try this! Thanks for the upload
Thank you ! Saw the Welsh band Man back in the ‘70’s. I heard a very similar guitar sound during a track they played called The Storm. The track is from their 1969 album 2oz of Plastic With A Hole in the Middle. You can hear that ‘seagull’ sound on the album track with Micky Jones or Deke Leonard on guitar.
You wanted to know about other uses of seagull sounds. In their 1969 song A Salty Dog, from the album of the same name, Procol Harum used seagull sounds at the beginning and end of the song.
Knowing David, I'm sure after discovering this effect he probably experimented and plugged up all of his pedals in reverse order to see if there were any other cool sounds waiting to be discovered.
Nice to see you again bjorn. it’d be great if for the next video you could do a bit on Gilmour’s pulse-era tones (as I’m still in awe at how good he sounds on that album)
I accidentally got my ins and outs mixed up in 75. . Zenta t style and shatsbury squall pedal. Didn’t figure out the tone knob thing as my tone control didn’t work. No idea until you showed us how he achieved this sound. 🎸👍🏼
@@waveguider I didn't say they used the same method. It doesn't even sound the same. I'm saying, it is a better seagull sound, and it was first. Before David Gilmore, and long before Radiohead.
Plugging the output of a 50W tube amp into the input of a Stratocaster, setting the amp to 10 while playing the 'Time' solo on yet another Strat (optional) plugged into the input results in a noise eerily similar to an exploding electric bread toaster. Oddly, there's often a similar smell as well!
Tony Bourge of Budgie uses seagull sounds on the track Parents from the Never turn your back on a friend album but, I think he achieved it by string bending and tremolo arm? Also Bill Nelson of Be Bop Deluxe uses a similar seagull effect on the track Sister Seagull from the album Futurama.
I was scrolling the comments to see if anyone had mentioned this. I also had the same suspicion that it might be some kind of bend/swell effect, but it could be this as well when I listen back. Bourge’s version does sound more ‘controlled’ in a bending kind of way too. Incredible song though either way!
Greetings 🖖! I have always been very careful when I am setting up my sound equipment and would never accidentally set my equipment to find this sound. I will experiment with my “Weeping Demon” and see if I could get a similar sound. Thank you very much for enlightening us all, I had always thought that sound was produced by a synthesizer. Thank you for posting these videos! Please have an excellent and awesome day! ☀️
I read about this many years ago. Dave really loves to experiment with new sounds. Just gotta say , your beard is magnificent! Great video, thanks. ✌👽🎸🎼🎵🎶🧠🌌♾
You can here this effect on the Ummagumma LP. Now there are videos of the live side of Ummagumma and in those videos it is shown that the sounds were produced with a small Reed blow device like from a childs toy in his lips. I have a feeling that both methods have been used depending on what effect he wanted.
I think Jeff McErlain said in his lesson (from a much longer course) on Truefire that he recorded a song on an album with this effect. I'm sort of here because of gaps in that lesson. Also, Adrian Belew has seagull style effects on one of the tracks on the King Crimson album Discipline although I'm not sure that they were achieved the same way. (I thought Prince did as well on one song, maybe When Doves Cry, but it isn't in the RUclips video anyway.)
I found a similar sound by using an original screaming bird treble booster with my 60s Gibson Trini Lopez 335 and getting too close to the two 4X12 speaker cabs I was using back then.
Hey Bjorn, hope you're doing well, and the family is also of course. I learned this on Gilmourish many years ago, and had Stu Castledine build me a wah that has a micro switch to reverse the leads. I was very surprised that my 50th anniversary SG Special with p90s did the Seagull,( accidentally), extremely well on just the bridge pickup. Anyway, nice to see your post. Best of luck, Keith
I couldn't get this to work with my newer VOX 847A wah. The new 847s have a buffer in them now. Also, this could be my fault because I used my EMG DG-20 equipped Strat, which uses no tone controls and the pickups are active. Sounds like I need to speed up the process of getting a new Strat to fix up with the right pickups and standard wiring.
Great video! We did our best to recreate this effect on our 2020 album Enlightened In Eternity. Check out the back half of closing track “Reunited in the Void” if you wanna hear it in action. 🙏🏻
When the world needed him the most, he returned.
“The return of the son of nothing” 😉
the most? We need Lee Harvey the most....
@@nasticanasta Oswald???🤔
Jesus?
Gilmour also used this effect on The Wall album, in the "Is Anybody Out There?".
Yes, he did.
@@gilmourishofficial I haven't checked, but pretty sure there are some similar instances (not exact) on the Animals LP.
@@addhoardingprocrastinator and isn’t cool to hear those sounds repeating themselves across multiple albums. Like a visit from an old friend.
what song is the intro from ?
@@israhelldid9119 Echoes (mid-section), off of Meddle. Also, Islam did 9/11.
As a teen I accidentally discovered this myself not paying attention to how I plugged in. Scared the living crap out of me how loud it was haha
Same here ! 😂
Same!
Yep! Same here
Funny enough that part of the song, the first time I heard it was as a teen in my dark bedroom, late at night. It scared the CRAP out of me and I actually ran out of my room like "NOPE! NOPE!" 😂😂😂 After a few seconds to compose myself, I went back for _mooorrrrre_ 😄😄😄
That's the difference between us and the true geniuses. A lot of other people would have hooked back their pedal correctly and never given it another thought. My dad independently discovered fuzz when he was messing around with an amp, but because it wasn't popular at the time and he recognized it as a mistake, he fixed the wiring to get a clean amp and never thought twice about it. Had he realized what he stumbled into by accident, he would have been the coolest kid on the scene back then.
Cool story! A lot of happy accidents happened back in the early days of electronic music. It's hard to imagine today and it sounds a bit strange hearing how they talk about how they explored new sounds but you really need to put yourself in their shoes and realise that pedals, synths and even guitars we're pretty new at the time. Hank Marvin was apparently the first in the UK to get a Strat and that was in 1959, only about a decade before Pink Floyd wrote Echoes.
If I remember, the recording engineer that discovered it as a miswiring in his console hated it and wanted Marty Robbins' bassist to rerecord the part on a working channel. But, Marty liked the sound and kept it. Eventually, I think someone took the console apart to figure out how it was miswired and made the first effect pedal design out of it. Before then, artists were just stabbing the hell out of their speaker cones to get the tone. Artists tend to be explorative; engineers like consistency.
@@CosmicWaltz7 one of the channels in the console blew. The engineer was intrigued and started making circuits to try to purposefully reproduce the sound.
Weird, I was just listening to Echoes in the car yesterday and for the first time actually thought about what that sound was. I knew it was David's guitar but didnt know how he was doing it. On another note, this video drove my dog bonkers lol. Very cool!
When we were kids in the 80s, a friend of mine and I used to experiment with different pedals this way. Modulation and delays were the most fun.
I had always assumed the "whale noises" on Echoes were created with a synthesizer. Great video lesson. Skol!
Thanks!
I always thought it funny that the wind noise on One of These Days was a synthesizer but the pulsating sound was simply a bass guitar.
@@Doormanswift Not just simply a bass guitar, but Two Bass Guitars. One with Old Strings and One with New Strings.
No synthesizers were used on Meddle. That sound was produced by a bass guitar drenched in reverb.
Beautiful. We all dreamed about how he made it. But alas someone went all the way. Thank you from Greece
I teach guitar and band at a Danish music school. About a year ago, one of my students (a 15 year old boy) had just borrowed a Cry Baby wah pedal, and he plugged it in the wrong way, probably because we read from left to right. That very second, the 1971 version of David Gilmour was in the room. Same mistake, same sound.
Are you fucking kidding me!! That was the way that sound was created. I would have never guess that. Gilmourish website is the best!
How funny: all these years I had been led to believe those were actual whale sounds mixed in to the recording. Thank you for this!
There are also wind sound effects, so definitely not a whale.
No it's a whale!🤠
Without a doubt you are the most Viking looking RUclips guitar gear guy on the Internet. That is a good thing.
Ha ha, thanks!
Watch Norsemen on Netflix. Friggin hilarious.
Sven says hi
Great to see you around again
Thanks!
Absolutely great. Many thanks Bjorn. I've done this for Is There Anybody Out There live, based on an earlier video you made. But now to work on Echoes with the extra insights here. (The best bit about this is that I don't have to play any notes on any strings!!!)
The funny thing is my Middle record was jumping in loop exactly in this part of Echoes. I had to move the needle a bit to hear the rest of the piece.
Years later when I bought the CD, I was very disappointed not to find that looping spot. It still part of my musical memory.
Always wondered how David got that sound. I figured he had some special piece of electronic equipment. I’m definitely going to try this! Thanks for the upload
That was absolutely awesome! I've always wondered how they got that haunting sound, now i finally found out!!!
Thank you ! Saw the Welsh band Man back in the ‘70’s. I heard a very similar guitar sound during a track they played called The Storm. The track is from their 1969 album 2oz of Plastic With A Hole in the Middle. You can hear that ‘seagull’ sound on the album track with Micky Jones or Deke Leonard on guitar.
Cool! Listening to it know it sounds to me that he's using the guitar volume, much like Gilmour, to create swells. I might be mistaken though.
Man were a great band and both Micky Jones and Deke Leonard were excellent players. Well worth investigating.
man! I had the mouth opened the entire video!! I love it! I never thought that it was so simple, gonna try it now!
You wanted to know about other uses of seagull sounds. In their 1969 song A Salty Dog, from the album of the same name, Procol Harum used seagull sounds at the beginning and end of the song.
Welcome back Bjorn! Excited for more content!
Thank you!
Very cool effect! Thanks for breaking this down, Bjorn!!
Great to see you again, Bjorn!
Thank you!
Nice to see you again!
You too!
Wow! How cool it is to finally know how this was done. Thank you!
Glad to see you posting again Bjorn, great content as always!
Thanks!
Not in a million years would I have picked this as happening through a wah-wah peddle! How damn cool! Very interesting - thanks!
I have wondered about this for more than 20 years. Thank you!
This is research at its best... Awesome, two thumbs up Bjorn 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you!
One of my all time favorite effects. Nice rundown on it Bjorn!
Thanks!
Glad to see a new video about this effect! Looking forward to your next album!
Thanks!
Very clear explanation... thanks!!!!! Would be nice a video like this about the Talk Box.
Knowing David, I'm sure after discovering this effect he probably experimented and plugged up all of his pedals in reverse order to see if there were any other cool sounds waiting to be discovered.
Yeah, he could afford it if anything blew up.
Thanks for this. One of the albums and sounds of my youth. Really enjoy your videos...and I'm not even a guitarist!
Thanks!
That is the best fucking thumbnail I’ve ever seen
Cant wait for the intro solo to come!
Nice to see you again bjorn. it’d be great if for the next video you could do a bit on Gilmour’s pulse-era tones (as I’m still in awe at how good he sounds on that album)
I did a vid on the EMG pickups a while ago ruclips.net/video/nqZgQm_uamc/видео.html
The PULSE sounds are definitely worth exploring more.
The man is back!
Wow I had never imagined this was Gilmour on guitar - what an amazing video - cheers
Thanks!
I accidentally got my ins and outs mixed up in 75. . Zenta t style and shatsbury squall pedal. Didn’t figure out the tone knob thing as my tone control didn’t work. No idea until you showed us how he achieved this sound. 🎸👍🏼
Very interesting. I didn’t know it, thank you sharing and showing this!
Twilight Singers used this on Too Tough To Die, you can see it in the live performances but I never knew how they did it
It brings me back when i was 16 and HIGH on WEED !! Love Pink Floyd !!!!!!!
✌️😄
I've always wondered about this! How awesome!
This is so cool. Thanks for sharing
Correction: It was Jimi Hendrix at the end of a track called, "Moon, turn the tides... gently gently away." on the Electric Ladyland album in 1968.
Incorrect, that is fast delay with a lot of feed back; then you slow down the delay. Everyone has done this, ask Radiohead.
@@waveguider I didn't say they used the same method. It doesn't even sound the same. I'm saying, it is a better seagull sound, and it was first. Before David Gilmore, and long before Radiohead.
@@charliebrown4624 i hear ya
They were pterodactyls in my house... and were somehow linked to the monsters in the 70s movie "At The Earth's Core."
Hendrix was using the Wah Pedal backwards for the Intro on the Axis bold as Love Album in '67.
I remember one day when I plugged one of these in back to front and immediately recognized the sound from Echoes.
Nailed it, always wondered how he did that! 👍
Welcome back sir 🙌🏻
Thank you!
Bjorn Thank you for posting for the awesome review tutorial you brought it again as you always do🙌🏻
Thank you!
I always thought is was done with a Theremin. That is pretty cool, bro!!!
Plugging the output of a 50W tube amp into the input of a Stratocaster, setting the amp to 10 while playing the 'Time' solo on yet another Strat (optional) plugged into the input results in a noise eerily similar to an exploding electric bread toaster. Oddly, there's often a similar smell as well!
I remember when I had my old wah pedal and did this for the first time... so excited...
I always thought he was bouncing a slide really high up the E string. This blew my mind.
Wow. I always thought it was a keyboard. I love your videos. Good luck with the album
Thanks!
It's 5am I haven't slept yet, after hear this I don't think I will be able to.
This guy! The ULTIMATE teacher!
Thanks!
That put a smile on my face !
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
If I could like this more than once, I would!
I now have my Halloween set up for this year. Thank you….
How is this the first time I'm hearing about this??? Simply brilliant!!!!
Tony Bourge of Budgie uses seagull sounds on the track Parents from the Never turn your back on a friend album but, I think he achieved it by string bending and tremolo arm? Also Bill Nelson of Be Bop Deluxe uses a similar seagull effect on the track Sister Seagull from the album Futurama.
I was scrolling the comments to see if anyone had mentioned this. I also had the same suspicion that it might be some kind of bend/swell effect, but it could be this as well when I listen back. Bourge’s version does sound more ‘controlled’ in a bending kind of way too.
Incredible song though either way!
Thanks you! Interesting sound
Wow, that is spot on!!
Wow!!!! I always thought it was from the synth!
Cool. I always thought it was a synth making that sound
That's really cool
MIND BLOWN!!! 🤯
Great video
Thanks!
Greetings 🖖!
I have always been very careful when I am setting up my sound equipment and would never accidentally set my equipment to find this sound. I will experiment with my “Weeping Demon” and see if I could get a similar sound.
Thank you very much for enlightening us all, I had always thought that sound was produced by a synthesizer. Thank you for posting these videos!
Please have an excellent and awesome day! ☀️
Drugs can help with that
I read about this many years ago. Dave really loves to experiment with new sounds.
Just gotta say , your beard is magnificent!
Great video, thanks.
✌👽🎸🎼🎵🎶🧠🌌♾
Ha ha, thanks!
Excellent reproduction!
Thank you!
Simply great 🎸
Thanks!
I took the guts out of the wah pedal and had them installed in a small pedal box with the in out switched. Works like a charm !!!
And removes any annoying wah-wah functionality :-)
@@paulwomack5866 It does !!! I have never been a wha-wha player so I didn't see the point of having one take up all that space.
@@johngrey7089 But how do you play bow-chika-wow-wow?
@@paulwomack5866 ruclips.net/video/D8YoEMj5iy4/видео.html
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You can here this effect on the Ummagumma LP. Now there are videos of the live side of Ummagumma and in those videos it is shown that the sounds were produced with a small Reed blow device like from a childs toy in his lips. I have a feeling that both methods have been used depending on what effect he wanted.
Wow. So cool.
Wow! That is amazing! Thanks!
Awesome effect!! Thanks for the vid!!
i made a seagull polarity switch pedal for my wah
That's a great idea, they should put that into every wah.
Bjorn thank you for everything you've done. You're a legend 💙
Thank you! Thanks for watching!
THAT IS EPIC!! THats how he does that!! I have a handwired Vox I'm going to try that on
Darkstar (Dan Rock’s project post Psychotic Waltz) - title track “Darkstar” also uses this technique.
I think Jeff McErlain said in his lesson (from a much longer course) on Truefire that he recorded a song on an album with this effect. I'm sort of here because of gaps in that lesson. Also, Adrian Belew has seagull style effects on one of the tracks on the King Crimson album Discipline although I'm not sure that they were achieved the same way. (I thought Prince did as well on one song, maybe When Doves Cry, but it isn't in the RUclips video anyway.)
I found a similar sound by using an original screaming bird treble booster with my 60s Gibson Trini Lopez 335 and getting too close to the two 4X12 speaker cabs I was using back then.
Countless acid trips have told me that sound came straight from hell
Fantastic! Thank you
Cheers!
I always thought it was a jacked-up wicked slide guitar thing going on. Love the video. :)
Hey Bjorn, hope you're doing well, and the family is also of course. I learned this on Gilmourish many years ago, and had Stu Castledine build me a wah that has a micro switch to reverse the leads. I was very surprised that my 50th anniversary SG Special with p90s did the Seagull,( accidentally), extremely well on just the bridge pickup. Anyway, nice to see your post.
Best of luck, Keith
Thanks Keith! Nice to be back and having the time to post again. Take care :)
Wow! Could have never guessed how he did that..
One of the instrumental tracks from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas uses a seagull effect for 1/2 a second
Wtf! I never dreamed it was made like that!!
That is insane. Ima go do it now.
I couldn't get this to work with my newer VOX 847A wah. The new 847s have a buffer in them now. Also, this could be my fault because I used my EMG DG-20 equipped Strat, which uses no tone controls and the pickups are active. Sounds like I need to speed up the process of getting a new Strat to fix up with the right pickups and standard wiring.
Great video! We did our best to recreate this effect on our 2020 album Enlightened In Eternity. Check out the back half of closing track “Reunited in the Void” if you wanna hear it in action. 🙏🏻
Brilliant video! Thanks for making this.
Thank you man
Magic!!! J'adore cet album, c'est mon préféré! Echoes
Merci!