That is so great to hear. I remember my dad doing projects with me when I was little so I love to hear that kind of feedback. All fun aside... it's actually a good sounding instrument as well.
That would definitely decrease resonance...Cookie tins are some of the most resonant materials available. Volume is affected by "specific modulus" AKA stiffness to weight ratio. Aluminum is extremely stiff at a much lower thickness than woods. Adding plywood would increase the weight and decrease the stiffness, which would definitely make it quieter. It would still be a good idea to remove the lid off the box and replace it with a thin sheet of plywood, for better tone.
YES! I was waiting for this, I bought some strings years ago for a Canjo, put them inside a cookie can with some bolts and forgot about it, time to finish the project!
Very Nice video, we built one after seeing your video. We even ordered the exact same cookie jar🙂 And it sounds great!! thanks a lot! Greetings from the Netherlands.
Great video. Working on a PANJO build now. A cookie tin banjo is on my list. My solution to the center on the pan was to trace the outline on paper, cutout the outline, and fold the paper in half for the centerline. After that, I put the paper on the tin to mark my centerline.
Thanks for the instructions, i've finished it yesterday and it sound amazing. Not every step went as i wanted (Switching imperial to metric system was awful) but still, it plays! And i don't know what i've enjoyed the most: making it or playing it! Thanks again, you've made my day. Greetings from Switzerland.
I make these videos hoping they're helpful to someone. I'm always glad to get that knd of feedback. Unfortunately my tape measure doesn't have Metric on it or I'd give both. That's good feedback though, maybe I can find one for future vids.
I can't believe I never thought of using the tin tabs to screw the neck to...duh. What I've been doing is much different and works and is sturdy, but much more complicated. But I will say that you should be able to cut right on the lines that form your tabs using a thick bladed utility knife...that is, no need to drill holes...just be careful when puncturing with a blade.
I have watched tons of videos on doing builds. This has got to be the best one for a beginner like me. You covered so much vital information and made it so simple to understand. Very motivational to get started on my build. Would be my recommendation as a first video for anyone wanting to build a cookie tin banjo or any stringed instrument. A great introduction and overview of all the steps and considerations.
I found your cookie tin banjo while searching for an electrified washtub bass :) Your banjo is awesome! Love your channel, you are an idea man, lotsa fun here!
I really appreciate that. I created this channel to help inspire others in whatever form it takes. I have musical ADD and I just wanted to share that with the world. Thanks again for the support.
I actually think that's easier than using a template but most people disagree with me. Remember the fretlines aren't actual frets, they're just a guide for where to put your slide. It's the slide that makes the actual fret. Anyway, thanks for checking it out.
@@musicalmiscellany your way to fretting (even if it's meant for the slide) is a very smart way to flip upside down the problem of marking the scale having to adjust capo and saddle and positioning the fretboard accordingly (when we want to glue a fretboard)... It is most of all an evident demonstration of the knots of resonance on a vibrating body (here the string), that's what we guitarists call under the name of "harmonics". It seems so smart to me because you ask the string to tell you her sweet spots. Pitagora is exulting for you from the Ade!
Thanks for you video, it inspired me to make one. I used the drip pan from an electric stove burner. The holes are already made for one. You are spot on, they are a blast to play. Thank you for your video.
Original danish! I make it one today with an original danish cookie butter box. Great tutorial. I have no sigars for the box, ahahah but my mother loves danish biscuits.
One of the best time saving power tools I've found for building CBG's is the oscillating multi-tool. With the right blade it's great for notching boxes and tins and doing other small cuts.
Oh man. I've had one of those on my wishlist for years. I need to just break down and buy one. I think they look so useful. Thanks for the confirmation... and for watching.
Great build. What a delicious buttery sound you got out of that tin. Can't decide if emptying the tin or playing it after the build would be the most fun. Probably the latter.
i love making similar and crazier ones. openable backs rule for adding electronics storing lunch... i just use a heavy 'stanley' knife to pierce the straight cuts into the metal; forming clean folded tabs on the sides and back of the neck. very small starter holes are good, but not needed. also, thinning the part of the neck and back (inside the can) to form edges that give a finished meet up of these parts. and scoop out some wood under the soundboard to give it flex. lose only about 2-4mm per side. can taper a bit towards the tail stock. my mate just found a tin with my name on it! -david's cookies-
You make it all look so easy Kale but I know it woundnt be for me. But one day this is another video I would like to follow with my husband’s help. Maybe when we are retired lol. That would be such a fun project !! Really cool and it really sounds nice. Great for the slide !
This is actually a pretty simple project. It's beginner friendly. I think you could do it... but I get it... everything is daunting the first time. It sounds so good though!
Awesome video! I have a cookie tin and will get some spare wood from work (piece of pallet but whatever) and will have to figure out for strings and such but am looking forward to trying this.
@@musicalmiscellanyThank you! Yes it was, oh, and i want to add, its awesome that you also added how to find the sounds. I hope I will be able to report on progress soon. Cheers!
@@musicalmiscellany Hey man! So, as promised, I report back on the progress. and the short version is - i made it! I've constructed a... a... stringed instrument (for lack of a better word) from a rectangular cookie box and various junk from work (broom stick, baling wire, etc.) I made the string tensioner myself from wood, inspired by "tamburica", which is a stringed instrument from my country. looks knobby and large and i love it, gives it that rustic and authentic feel i want. I even decorated it just a touch. It has a single string and sounds more like a turkish tambur than a banjo or guitar - but i love it! I did do some mistakes, the hold i drilled for the tensioner i a wee bigger than tensioner so i have to stuff something so it keeps the tension. but other than that, it's amazing! So now, i have and i find it pretty easy to improvise basic melodies on it. And as a person which never had an interest (nor talent) for playing musical instruments, nor do i come from a musical family, having made such an instrument makes it in my head intimate and unimportant enough so i can have no expectations of it or myself. and in a weird way, it works. i keep it near my bicycle and whenever i come from work, i grab it and pluck a few chords. still figuring things out on how to best hold it, pluck the string, etc. it's a really really basic instrument but the sound is sweet! And there's something on a whole other level when one plays the music oneself as opposed to listening to audio.
Thanks for checking it out. I'd like to see how you build them now. I made this the super stripped-down way to keep it simple but obviously... you could embellish it a lot.
@@musicalmiscellany I have been planning on doing a video to show how I build cookie tin instruments, but as you have likely noticed, I have taken a little break from posting videos. It is on my "to-do" list!
It's funny how that happens. Everyone thinks they need to measure everything until you start to realize which things are formulaic and which things are theoretical. Half the fun of building CBGs is learning all those nuances.
@@hallobre I planned on it, and then the neck piece I got was just too narrow for what I wanted. Next summer, I'm making another one (with a few lessons learned).
Think I'll make myself one with a hockey stick and a plastic can (it has the same shape as the cookie tin though), probably gonna resonate less, but it's bigger than the tin one I got, which has holes anyway from another project. 😅
Thanks for checking out the video. When playing blues in a minor key the "blue note" is the one between the 4th and 5th (b5). You're absolutely correct about that. However, when playing blues in a major key - which is actually more common contrary to popular opinion - the "blue note" is the one between the 2nd and 3rd (b3). I guess I should've specified major blue note as many folks just immediately associate minor keys with the blues.
I absolutely love this! I play banjolele and I've been wanting to get into trying to make an instrument. This is wonderful! New subscriber! Is that 23 inches you measured from the center of the nut or the front or back of the nut?
Thanks for checking out the video. I hope it inspires you to build one of your own. When you measure scale length, you want to measure from the nut contact point to the bridge contact point. Depending on the shape of the nut, that could be the middle or the back edge. In this case, it's close to the middle. Honestly though, don't get too involved in that because with the floating bridge, you can easily move it a small amount to get the intonation where you want it.
@@bridges5659 thanks for finding the video and commenting. I’ve found a sound hole doesn’t make much difference on tin instruments. It definitely makes a difference on wood boxes though. Good luck.
This particular tin is about 7.5" in diameter. I wouldn't worry too much about the size of the tin though. Good luck with your project and thanks for watching.
Thanks for watching. With CBGs, there’s no “correct” tuning. Everyone seems to gravitate towards their favorite. Popular 4 string tunings include DGBE, GDGB, CGDA, GCEA, and several others. My personal favorite is ADGB which is essentially the middle 4 strings of a 6 string guitar. Check out CBGitty.com. They sell string packs designed for various tunings.
With piezos, placing it anywhere on the resonant part of the tin should work. There’s been a lot written on this (and hypothesis vary) but most folks believe the top is most resonant a little bit outside the center. You can usually pluck a string a feel the surface to find the most resonant spot. All of that said… I’ve found the placement doesn’t make a huge difference so I say put it where it’s convenient.
Would you be able to get a visual by placing something like cornmeal or flour on the face and pluck a string and see what jumps and where? @@musicalmiscellany
@@avajo5597 That's a good idea but it would take some experimenting to make it repeatable because you wouldn't get any vibrations from the tin until after you had strings and a bridge installed. By that point in the build process, you'd already have the scale length determined. If you 'sacrificed' a build in the name of research,, that could be useful for future projects. However, then you'd have the next question... does the amount of wood in the neck change the way the tin vibrates because that would most certainly be affected by the scale length. So then would you have to find the ideal location for a 23" scale and another of 24" scale and another for a 25" scale and so on. Once you figure all that out, you could try different string gauges and types of tins to see if it varies. These kinds of experiments can be fun but they're like an onion... there's always another layer to peel back. Good luck.
Thanks for checking out the video. Alas, I don't have a video on slide making but my friend Steve does. Check out his video here: ruclips.net/video/oYEPfSHww08/видео.html
That's a guitar slide. This particular one is made of ceramic but they can be made of glass, brass, bone, and numerous other things. They also come in different sizes and shapes. If you do a product search for "guitar slide" you'll find lots of options. Thanks for checkin it out.
It’s a 23” scale. I covered that around 5:25 when talking about marking the neck and then again around 14:40 when I talked about positioning the bridge. I probably should’ve made that more obvious because you’re not the first person to ask that question. 😂 Thanks for checking it out.
Not a silly question at all. A cigar box guitar is called that but it's not really a guitar. It's a roots instrument, closer to a banjo than a guitar. However, if you made this exact same thing with a cigar box opposed to a cookie tin, it would be called a cigar box guitar. So I guess the difference is nomenclature.
It’s a piece of oak board. It’s pretty common to find in hardware stores in the US. Honestly though any hardwood should work fine. I’ve used maple, poplar, pine, cedar, and walnut in the past. They all work great.
@@fightinganimations1597 The string tension will hold the nut in place. You don't need to glue it. The strings have a small ball at one end, the ball it too big to slip through the hole that it holds the strings at the tail end. The tuners hold them at the head end (obviously). Good luck.
Guitar strings have a ball on one end (they're often called ball-end strings). As long as the hole your drill is smaller than the ball, the string won't pull through the wood.
i just found this vid and started the project. am i missing somethng, or do you not mention how to attach the strings at the tin end? my strings just have loops.
Thanks for checking out the video. I used ball-end strings and that's why I drill the holes through the neck plank. The ball holds the string from the bottom. If you wanted to use loop-end strings, you could just put small screws in those holes and put the loop over the head of the screw.
Is there a reason for having only 3 strings? Im asking because 4 seems more intuitive to me but other than that it looks like a fairly simple but fun project. Ive wanted a banjo or tin guitar for ages but banjos are out of my price range and ive only recently found that I'm decent at builds like this so im itching to try anything I can.
There's a lot of debate online on whether 3- or 4-strings is better. I wouldn't say either is superior, they're just different. When it comes to fretted gits, I tend to prefer 4-strings but when it comes to fretless gits, I much prefer 3-string models. That could just be personal preference, so take it with a grain of salt. Regardless, you could just as easily do this as a 4-string build is that's what you wanted. The instructions would be more or less identical, but you'd drill 4 tuner holes and 4 anchor holes.
Half the fun is building it and half the fun is playing it but just cuz you're new to one doesn't mean you shouldn't do the other. Thanks for watching. I appreciate it.
There are a lot of different hypothesis on this and you can certainly do it that way. It would seem like there would be more resonance at the middle. However the tin is also weakest in the middle, so it will actually produce less resonance. The general consensus is you get the most resonance around 1/3 of the diameter. Obviously... feel free to break those "rules" as you see fit.
@@steveatthews3472 There are as many opinions as there are folks but it seems to work for me. To each their own I guess. Thanks for checking out the vid.
I had to look both of those up but yes, this is quite similar. If you like those kinds of instruments, you might like this video I posted earlier this year ruclips.net/video/0EmXvkTidKw/видео.html
I'm not sure I follow. Cigar Box Guitars have been built with literally junk people have on hand. There shouldn't be a big budget involved in building a CBG.
Exactly! That's one of the things I love about it. There's something about the rattly tin (particularly when you strum it hard). It almost sounds like an overdriven electric guitar but it's fully acoustic. So cool. Thanks for checking it out.
I don't work for CB Gitty but I know they're closed holidays and weekends. So if you called outside of business hours, they'll probably call you back on the next business day. If they still don't call, you could try email, support@cbgitty.com
Why the loud music over you speaking? It's completely distracting, and made it impossible to enjoy the video. When I'm after music, I want to hear music- when I'm after a build video, I want to hear the maker talking, not music drowning him out.
Cmon just enjoy this awesome tutorial without having to be in the center of attention. This guy spent a lot of time on this tutorial so just respect him.
Okay thanks for the disambiguation. I've always heard it called a t-square but I know a lot of things get nicknamed in the shop. EDIT: I looked it up and it's actually called a combination square ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_square ). It appears a carpenter's square is something else entirely ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_square ). Evidently we were both using the wrong verbiage. Thanks for the comment though or I probably wouldn't have checked.
You can take the back off if you want. It does make the instrument slightly louder but it also makes the body a bit weaker so it flexes and causes the pitch to warble a bit.
Thanks for the inspiration. My son and I built one in about four hours. It turned out great and we had a fun time making it.
That is so great to hear. I remember my dad doing projects with me when I was little so I love to hear that kind of feedback. All fun aside... it's actually a good sounding instrument as well.
If you want it to sound a bit warmer, you could line the can with thin plywood. It both stiffens the can, reducing tininess, and increases resonance.
That's a good tip. Thanks for the suggestion. I'm pretty happy with the way this one sounds though.
That would definitely decrease resonance...Cookie tins are some of the most resonant materials available. Volume is affected by "specific modulus" AKA stiffness to weight ratio. Aluminum is extremely stiff at a much lower thickness than woods. Adding plywood would increase the weight and decrease the stiffness, which would definitely make it quieter. It would still be a good idea to remove the lid off the box and replace it with a thin sheet of plywood, for better tone.
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YES! I was waiting for this, I bought some strings years ago for a Canjo, put them inside a cookie can with some bolts and forgot about it, time to finish the project!
Thanks for checking out the video. I hope you get complete the project. I'm super impressed with this one.
Very Nice video, we built one after seeing your video. We even ordered the exact same cookie jar🙂 And it sounds great!! thanks a lot! Greetings from the Netherlands.
Thanks for that feedback. I'm glad the video was helpful. I really like this little 3-stringer. Thanks again.
Great video. Working on a PANJO build now. A cookie tin banjo is on my list. My solution to the center on the pan was to trace the outline on paper, cutout the outline, and fold the paper in half for the centerline. After that, I put the paper on the tin to mark my centerline.
Thanks for watching the video. That's a good way to find the centerline. Good look on the build.
Thanks for the instructions, i've finished it yesterday and it sound amazing. Not every step went as i wanted (Switching imperial to metric system was awful) but still, it plays! And i don't know what i've enjoyed the most: making it or playing it!
Thanks again, you've made my day.
Greetings from Switzerland.
I make these videos hoping they're helpful to someone. I'm always glad to get that knd of feedback. Unfortunately my tape measure doesn't have Metric on it or I'd give both. That's good feedback though, maybe I can find one for future vids.
I can't believe I never thought of using the tin tabs to screw the neck to...duh. What I've been doing is much different and works and is sturdy, but much more complicated. But I will say that you should be able to cut right on the lines that form your tabs using a thick bladed utility knife...that is, no need to drill holes...just be careful when puncturing with a blade.
Thanks for checking it out. I share these vids hoping they help someone else so thanks for the comment.
Or, if you have a Dremel, you could use a really small cutting disc
I have watched tons of videos on doing builds. This has got to be the best one for a beginner like me. You covered so much vital information and made it so simple to understand. Very motivational to get started on my build. Would be my recommendation as a first video for anyone wanting to build a cookie tin banjo or any stringed instrument. A great introduction and overview of all the steps and considerations.
I really appreciate that. I make these videos hoping they help someone else so it's really great to hear that kind of feedback. Thank you so much.
I found your cookie tin banjo while searching for an electrified washtub bass :) Your banjo is awesome! Love your channel, you are an idea man, lotsa fun here!
I really appreciate that. I created this channel to help inspire others in whatever form it takes. I have musical ADD and I just wanted to share that with the world. Thanks again for the support.
I love the way you found the fret spots. Excellent!
I actually think that's easier than using a template but most people disagree with me. Remember the fretlines aren't actual frets, they're just a guide for where to put your slide. It's the slide that makes the actual fret. Anyway, thanks for checking it out.
@@musicalmiscellany your way to fretting (even if it's meant for the slide) is a very smart way to flip upside down the problem of marking the scale having to adjust capo and saddle and positioning the fretboard accordingly (when we want to glue a fretboard)... It is most of all an evident demonstration of the knots of resonance on a vibrating body (here the string), that's what we guitarists call under the name of "harmonics".
It seems so smart to me because you ask the string to tell you her sweet spots.
Pitagora is exulting for you from the Ade!
Thanks for you video, it inspired me to make one. I used the drip pan from an electric stove burner. The holes are already made for one. You are spot on, they are a blast to play. Thank you for your video.
That's great to hear. I make these videos hoping they will inspire someone else so I really appreciate that. Keep on pickin!
followed your directions and built myself a cookie tin 3 string! Sounds cool, resonates like crazy. Will add the pickup soon. Such fun. Thanks
Thanks for that comment. I make these vids and then I wonder if anyone actually uses them. Great to hear when someone does.
I love the tattoo of the plastic spinner disk we used to shoot from those disk guns
Thanks. Ironically, it's supposed to be the insert for a 45 record album but I too remember those toy guns and it's really similar.
Original danish! I make it one today with an original danish cookie butter box. Great tutorial. I have no sigars for the box, ahahah but my mother loves danish biscuits.
@@gammas.a.-g.caldarella8114 thanks for checking out the video. I’m glad to hear it was helpful.
One of the best time saving power tools I've found for building CBG's is the oscillating multi-tool. With the right blade it's great for notching boxes and tins and doing other small cuts.
Oh man. I've had one of those on my wishlist for years. I need to just break down and buy one. I think they look so useful. Thanks for the confirmation... and for watching.
Great build. What a delicious buttery sound you got out of that tin. Can't decide if emptying the tin or playing it after the build would be the most fun. Probably the latter.
Thanks for checking it out. I am so impressed by the sound. It almost sounds electric. I honestly didn't expect it to sound this good.
i love making similar and crazier ones. openable backs rule for adding electronics storing lunch...
i just use a heavy 'stanley' knife to pierce the straight cuts into the metal; forming clean folded tabs on the sides and back of the neck. very small starter holes are good, but not needed.
also, thinning the part of the neck and back (inside the can) to form edges that give a finished meet up of these parts.
and scoop out some wood under the soundboard to give it flex. lose only about 2-4mm per side. can taper a bit towards the tail stock.
my mate just found a tin with my name on it! -david's cookies-
Thanks for checking out the video.
You make it all look so easy Kale but I know it woundnt be for me. But one day this is another video I would like to follow with my husband’s help. Maybe when we are retired lol. That would be such a fun project !! Really cool and it really sounds nice. Great for the slide !
This is actually a pretty simple project. It's beginner friendly. I think you could do it... but I get it... everything is daunting the first time. It sounds so good though!
Awesome video! I have a cookie tin and will get some spare wood from work (piece of pallet but whatever) and will have to figure out for strings and such but am looking forward to trying this.
I love to get that kind of feedback. Thanks for watching the video. Hopefully it was helpful
@@musicalmiscellanyThank you! Yes it was, oh, and i want to add, its awesome that you also added how to find the sounds. I hope I will be able to report on progress soon. Cheers!
@@musicalmiscellany Hey man! So, as promised, I report back on the progress. and the short version is - i made it!
I've constructed a... a... stringed instrument (for lack of a better word) from a rectangular cookie box and various junk from work (broom stick, baling wire, etc.) I made the string tensioner myself from wood, inspired by "tamburica", which is a stringed instrument from my country. looks knobby and large and i love it, gives it that rustic and authentic feel i want. I even decorated it just a touch.
It has a single string and sounds more like a turkish tambur than a banjo or guitar - but i love it!
I did do some mistakes, the hold i drilled for the tensioner i a wee bigger than tensioner so i have to stuff something so it keeps the tension. but other than that, it's amazing!
So now, i have and i find it pretty easy to improvise basic melodies on it. And as a person which never had an interest (nor talent) for playing musical instruments, nor do i come from a musical family, having made such an instrument makes it in my head intimate and unimportant enough so i can have no expectations of it or myself. and in a weird way, it works. i keep it near my bicycle and whenever i come from work, i grab it and pluck a few chords. still figuring things out on how to best hold it, pluck the string, etc.
it's a really really basic instrument but the sound is sweet!
And there's something on a whole other level when one plays the music oneself as opposed to listening to audio.
Nice demonstration! I built my first one this way but have evolved my technique since then.
Thanks for checking it out. I'd like to see how you build them now. I made this the super stripped-down way to keep it simple but obviously... you could embellish it a lot.
@@musicalmiscellany I have been planning on doing a video to show how I build cookie tin instruments, but as you have likely noticed, I have taken a little break from posting videos. It is on my "to-do" list!
@@stevesstrings5243 Awesome. I look forward to it.
10:02 this is the type of tech I use to haha! thanks for a simple imformative video on making one of these things up!
It's funny how that happens. Everyone thinks they need to measure everything until you start to realize which things are formulaic and which things are theoretical. Half the fun of building CBGs is learning all those nuances.
@@musicalmiscellany spot on! Just like playing them you just have to find your groove and style.
Thanks again for the inspiration!
@@lakescraftbox Truer words have rarely been spoken (or typed in this case).
Love this! What a fun project!
I'm surprised by how much I love this thing. It really sounds good.
Awesome video! Very informative & well put together.
Thanks man. This banjo really came out nice.
I think I might make one but with a shorter “drone” string like an actual banjo. I think it’d be great for Clawhammer playing.
That would probably be a cool setup. Go for it.
8 months later, did you end up doing that? Asking for someone who wants to do the same thing. (It's me.)
@@crazyelfprincess 8 months after you’ve asked, have you done it?
@@hallobre I planned on it, and then the neck piece I got was just too narrow for what I wanted. Next summer, I'm making another one (with a few lessons learned).
Think I'll make myself one with a hockey stick and a plastic can (it has the same shape as the cookie tin though), probably gonna resonate less, but it's bigger than the tin one I got, which has holes anyway from another project. 😅
Thanks for checking out the vid. Best of luck with the project.
a minor third (b3) and the blue note (b5) are 2 different things. Cool project tough.
Thanks for checking out the video. When playing blues in a minor key the "blue note" is the one between the 4th and 5th (b5). You're absolutely correct about that. However, when playing blues in a major key - which is actually more common contrary to popular opinion - the "blue note" is the one between the 2nd and 3rd (b3). I guess I should've specified major blue note as many folks just immediately associate minor keys with the blues.
Actually sounds awesome.
I totally agree. Check out my other video entitled "the cookie tin banjo is unexpectedly awesome".
really love your work my friend!!!
I appreciate that. Thanks for checking out the vid. Hopefully it was helpful.
I absolutely love this! I play banjolele and I've been wanting to get into trying to make an instrument. This is wonderful! New subscriber!
Is that 23 inches you measured from the center of the nut or the front or back of the nut?
Thanks for checking out the video. I hope it inspires you to build one of your own. When you measure scale length, you want to measure from the nut contact point to the bridge contact point. Depending on the shape of the nut, that could be the middle or the back edge. In this case, it's close to the middle. Honestly though, don't get too involved in that because with the floating bridge, you can easily move it a small amount to get the intonation where you want it.
any advice on how to electrify it?
so much fun
Stay tuned. 😁
Thanks for sharing! Really nice job! 🙂🙂🙂
Thanks for checking it out. I always hope these vids inspire someone else to build a similar project.
thinking about it.
Thanks for watching.
use tyraps to make the frets,easy to adjust!
I’ve heard of that but not tried it. Thanks for watching the vid.
Great ! Would it sound better if you cut a hole in the tin just like guitars ?
@@bridges5659 thanks for finding the video and commenting. I’ve found a sound hole doesn’t make much difference on tin instruments. It definitely makes a difference on wood boxes though. Good luck.
I'm gonna use this to create a banjo-baglama or a bouzouki
Thanks for checking out the video.
Awesome
@@paulmarkmoffat4638 thanks for checking it out and commenting. I really appreciate the support. Hopefully the video was helpful.
Hi, I inspired to make this instrument.
But I wanted to ask exactly what size is that cookie tin?
Thanks
This particular tin is about 7.5" in diameter. I wouldn't worry too much about the size of the tin though. Good luck with your project and thanks for watching.
@@musicalmiscellanyThank you for the info and for the encouragement. 😎🎶
Any particular brand of cookies and second the tin graphics?😂🇨🇦
Any cookie tin should work. As you mention, some may be partial to a particular aesthetic. Good luck.
What if you wanted to do a 4 string cookie tin. What would the tuning be on that?
Thanks for watching. With CBGs, there’s no “correct” tuning. Everyone seems to gravitate towards their favorite. Popular 4 string tunings include DGBE, GDGB, CGDA, GCEA, and several others. My personal favorite is ADGB which is essentially the middle 4 strings of a 6 string guitar. Check out CBGitty.com. They sell string packs designed for various tunings.
@@musicalmiscellany thanks for replying mate. I will have the 4 string finished in the next week. I will send you a pic.
Oh and I’m making a 4 string with a piezo pickup. The pick up will be between the neck board and tin surface.
With piezos, placing it anywhere on the resonant part of the tin should work. There’s been a lot written on this (and hypothesis vary) but most folks believe the top is most resonant a little bit outside the center. You can usually pluck a string a feel the surface to find the most resonant spot. All of that said… I’ve found the placement doesn’t make a huge difference so I say put it where it’s convenient.
Would you be able to get a visual by placing something like cornmeal or flour on the face and pluck a string and see what jumps and where? @@musicalmiscellany
@@avajo5597 That's a good idea but it would take some experimenting to make it repeatable because you wouldn't get any vibrations from the tin until after you had strings and a bridge installed. By that point in the build process, you'd already have the scale length determined. If you 'sacrificed' a build in the name of research,, that could be useful for future projects. However, then you'd have the next question... does the amount of wood in the neck change the way the tin vibrates because that would most certainly be affected by the scale length. So then would you have to find the ideal location for a 23" scale and another of 24" scale and another for a 25" scale and so on. Once you figure all that out, you could try different string gauges and types of tins to see if it varies. These kinds of experiments can be fun but they're like an onion... there's always another layer to peel back. Good luck.
great job .,but can u suggest how to make your own slide?
Thanks for checking out the video. Alas, I don't have a video on slide making but my friend Steve does. Check out his video here: ruclips.net/video/oYEPfSHww08/видео.html
What song were you palaying towards the end????
Thanks for watching. It wasn't a song per se. It was just basic blues improv.
what's the blue material you put your finger around and use to finger the strings?
That's a guitar slide. This particular one is made of ceramic but they can be made of glass, brass, bone, and numerous other things. They also come in different sizes and shapes. If you do a product search for "guitar slide" you'll find lots of options. Thanks for checkin it out.
What’s the scale length on it? Or just from the bottom of the nut to the 12th fret measurement?
It’s a 23” scale. I covered that around 5:25 when talking about marking the neck and then again around 14:40 when I talked about positioning the bridge. I probably should’ve made that more obvious because you’re not the first person to ask that question. 😂 Thanks for checking it out.
Nice I thought about that
@@teatime2595 thanks for checking out the video.
If i want could i use more strings for other notes ro it wont work?
It should work fine with two, three, or four strings. whenever you wanna do.
what metirial to string1,2&3
I don't understand this comment.
Is there any adhesive on the nut?
Thanks for checking out the video. I did not use an adhesive. The pressure of the strings holds the nut in place.
silly question, what is the difference between this and a 3 string cigar box guitar ? thx
Not a silly question at all. A cigar box guitar is called that but it's not really a guitar. It's a roots instrument, closer to a banjo than a guitar. However, if you made this exact same thing with a cigar box opposed to a cookie tin, it would be called a cigar box guitar. So I guess the difference is nomenclature.
What timber are you using. Here in uk Hardwood is hard to find. ?
It’s a piece of oak board. It’s pretty common to find in hardware stores in the US. Honestly though any hardwood should work fine. I’ve used maple, poplar, pine, cedar, and walnut in the past. They all work great.
how did you put the nut on? did you use glue?
and also how did you do the strings?
@@fightinganimations1597 The string tension will hold the nut in place. You don't need to glue it. The strings have a small ball at one end, the ball it too big to slip through the hole that it holds the strings at the tail end. The tuners hold them at the head end (obviously). Good luck.
@@musicalmiscellany ok thanks
How are the strings attached on the backside?
Guitar strings have a ball on one end (they're often called ball-end strings). As long as the hole your drill is smaller than the ball, the string won't pull through the wood.
@@musicalmiscellany makes sense. Thanks! Inspiring vid
i just found this vid and started the project. am i missing somethng, or do you not mention how to attach the strings at the tin end? my strings just have loops.
Thanks for checking out the video. I used ball-end strings and that's why I drill the holes through the neck plank. The ball holds the string from the bottom. If you wanted to use loop-end strings, you could just put small screws in those holes and put the loop over the head of the screw.
@@musicalmiscellany i'll do that. I appreciate the quick reply!
Is there a reason for having only 3 strings? Im asking because 4 seems more intuitive to me but other than that it looks like a fairly simple but fun project. Ive wanted a banjo or tin guitar for ages but banjos are out of my price range and ive only recently found that I'm decent at builds like this so im itching to try anything I can.
There's a lot of debate online on whether 3- or 4-strings is better. I wouldn't say either is superior, they're just different. When it comes to fretted gits, I tend to prefer 4-strings but when it comes to fretless gits, I much prefer 3-string models. That could just be personal preference, so take it with a grain of salt. Regardless, you could just as easily do this as a 4-string build is that's what you wanted. The instructions would be more or less identical, but you'd drill 4 tuner holes and 4 anchor holes.
@@musicalmiscellany awesome. Thanks for taking the time to reply. You did an amazing job on your build by the way, it sounds fantastic.
Can't play a note but I 8ntend making one of these
Half the fun is building it and half the fun is playing it but just cuz you're new to one doesn't mean you shouldn't do the other. Thanks for watching. I appreciate it.
Why didn’t you place the bridge in the center of the tin? Seems like it ought to work best there?
There are a lot of different hypothesis on this and you can certainly do it that way. It would seem like there would be more resonance at the middle. However the tin is also weakest in the middle, so it will actually produce less resonance. The general consensus is you get the most resonance around 1/3 of the diameter. Obviously... feel free to break those "rules" as you see fit.
I’m sure that the consensus has a lot of weight behind it. I’ll let you know if I find anything different
@@steveatthews3472 There are as many opinions as there are folks but it seems to work for me. To each their own I guess. Thanks for checking out the vid.
The longer the string length improves hitting intonation better with the finger and a better tone overall.
With no frets, this is the same construction as an Okinawan kankara #Sanshin.
@@StuartWoodwardJP thanks for checking out the video.
Wow… this is almost something like a Chanzy or Doshpuluur
I had to look both of those up but yes, this is quite similar. If you like those kinds of instruments, you might like this video I posted earlier this year ruclips.net/video/0EmXvkTidKw/видео.html
@@musicalmiscellany wow, you are a man of many talents! Perhaps one day you would try to construct a doshpuluur? Not too dissimilar to a shamisen
How do y'all all have this much access I don't got da budget for all that 💀
I'm not sure I follow. Cigar Box Guitars have been built with literally junk people have on hand. There shouldn't be a big budget involved in building a CBG.
It might just be the camera audio but it sounds heavy, almost like a heavy metal guitar tone mixed with a banjo.
Exactly! That's one of the things I love about it. There's something about the rattly tin (particularly when you strum it hard). It almost sounds like an overdriven electric guitar but it's fully acoustic. So cool. Thanks for checking it out.
called cb gitty they didnt return my call
I don't work for CB Gitty but I know they're closed holidays and weekends. So if you called outside of business hours, they'll probably call you back on the next business day. If they still don't call, you could try email, support@cbgitty.com
Nahh cause I thought that boing at the end was my text tone💀
Thanks for stopping by.
that tin full of sewing stuff 100%
Thanks for checking out the video.
Why the loud music over you speaking? It's completely distracting, and made it impossible to enjoy the video. When I'm after music, I want to hear music- when I'm after a build video, I want to hear the maker talking, not music drowning him out.
I turned the volume way down on the audio track but I guess it may still have been too loud. Thanks for the feedback.
Applying a filter to the low end of the music would help your voice stand out @@musicalmiscellany
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You're just retarded
Cmon just enjoy this awesome tutorial without having to be in the center of attention. This guy spent a lot of time on this tutorial so just respect him.
That's not a T-square. That's what they call a carpenter's square. A T-square is a drafting tool, and is shaped like a capital "T"
Okay thanks for the disambiguation. I've always heard it called a t-square but I know a lot of things get nicknamed in the shop.
EDIT: I looked it up and it's actually called a combination square ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_square ). It appears a carpenter's square is something else entirely ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_square ). Evidently we were both using the wrong verbiage. Thanks for the comment though or I probably wouldn't have checked.
Try taking the back off?
You can take the back off if you want. It does make the instrument slightly louder but it also makes the body a bit weaker so it flexes and causes the pitch to warble a bit.