Yeah I noticed that too. Not sure if all those guys were paid, or got a cherry picked sample, or, just wanted to encourage people to consider "affordable" options.
I have this exact same bass, including the same color. I like it quite a lot I did end up swapping the pickups for some Fender Pure Vintage, but really the stock pickups were not bad. I also put on a tort pick guard just to be different, but it's a nice looking and playing bass regardless. My only other upgrade was a Hipshot high mass bridge.
I have yet to dabble into bass bridges. I've barely scratched the surface on guitar bridged even. Probably cause I'm better with electronics, and pickups offer more profound a change. Funny you mention the pick guard. I actually liked the aluminum enough, I ended up ordering an aluminum for one of my strat builds.
Oh yeah, some guitars have smaller pot holes, this one does seems of have come with the smaller ones. For the EMG's I used the ones that came with the EMG's cause they are a different value. EMG's use A25k pots with a 0.1u(104) tone cap. Stock was A250k, with a 0.047(473) tone pot.
Why push active circuits with EMG pickups everywhere? Let's leave place for classic guitars with cheap sockets :D Especially for 40th anniversary. I have mint colour of this guitar and quality and sound is amazing. I love play on it
Ah, I'm not pushing anything. Hell, I try to push people away from EMG normally. But I got them for the right price, and I tend to like them in bass. In this case, I liked the look and feel of this bass, but wanted a slightly more modern response.
Oh, well I got these for a really good deal, that's essentially why. Those did seems interesting. I think the gold might match the pick guard even, tho, I do like the splash of contrast.
You must have been very unlucky, dude. Mine (from Thomann, Germany) came perfect right out of the box. It would have been nice if you compared the old with the new pickups. Most of the reviews (and from my own experience) have no complaints about the sound quality.
That bass is just under 400 dollars in the U.S and .6 Onces isn't that wierd of a difference between two of the exact same basses it depends on where the on the slab the wood was cut from I've seen two identical basses where the difference was almost a pound
It has dropped in price since I got it. IN fact, it dropped like $100 cdn less than a month after I got it and the store refunded me the difference. Yeah, I didn't really thing 6 oz was a big deal, but, Idk, I just wanted that bit more weight, and in the end, this was the better sounded of the ones I tried.
@@MarcG7424 Yeah, it was a funny story kind of. There was this situation with the person who randomly demanded money from me that day, I won't get into it, but I had to drop by the store after I met with them, and I got that refund. It felt like some sort of karma even. Like they were so in the wrong, I was granted twice what they were asking after the ordeal. hahah. And it gets worse, the only reason I was out that day, was to meet with them, and, it would of been like 30 days exactly, it would of been the last day I could of cashed in the price protection.
Found one yesterday for $180 and shipping at Musician's Friend. At that price, upgrading isn't crazy whatsoever. Looks like a good bass platform to work with.
Looks sexy. Its a shame an $800 bass just got slapped together but at the end of the day it will be great and look fantastic. My OCD would kick in with all those wonky screws though. Its easy to plug the holes and re-drill but they should have been straight to begin with
I have a question for you. Given that Fender can be Nazis when dealing with warranty issues (that is, Fender often nullifies warranties for even trivial reasons. For example, I had a claim on screwed up wiring denied because I put a sticker on the pick guard of my new Player Series Telecaster….sheeeesh!), didn’t you endanger your warranty when you installed the EMG pickup and slightly modified the wiring. And if the warranty is no longer valid because of these changes, they why not make the wiring cavity slightly larger to accommodate the 9 volt battery. Seems like a more elegant solution than an external power source. Anyway, you are the man and your videos are both informative and entertaining. Best wishes. By the way, not to break your heart, but I got the same bass for $299.00 US about two months ago from Sweetwater.
Ahh, that doesn't break my heart, stuff in Canada is more expensive on merit of the exchange alone, and it has dropped in price across the board since I got mine. As for warranty, yeah, I do believe I violated the warranty, however, I have skills enough I could put the stock pickups back in and they'd never know, (short of this video evidence). I kind of drew the line there. It's been almost a year now, I still havent' claimed. I guess I'm just over it at this point. Also at this price point, I'm not tooooo worried. Years ago, I bought a brand new Mexican Fender Jag bass, that cost something like $1400, $1700 out the door all in with a nice case and strap, and shortly after I got it, a pickup died. I found a wire just came loose, a problem I could fix in 5 minutes, but I was super paro about warranty. I asked the manager at the store, they know me, and what I can do, they gave me the go ahead. They have a different manager now, but, he's an old buddy I go way back with. He'd pull a string or two for me. I also am antiquated with the local certified Fender Tech and have talked good shop with him enough I feel I'm safe for this far of a mod. At the end of the day, I just didn't want to cut into this nice fresh shiny new bass, risk lowering the weight, after fussing about 6oz, and was interested in trying my hand at the external PSU idea. I still run it that was to this day, and it was a useful solution as I've also "actived" a strat that I wasn't getting a battery into either. "Just wanted to try something different" you know.
@@DATT thanks for the reply. Right after I wrote my comment I thought that since your work solved the problem (and battery change is easier with the external power source compared to removing the pick guard each time), why the heck do anything more. Simplicity is the more eloquent solution. Again best wishes and note that I am now a subscriber.
@@michaelmcdonald8877 To be fair, battery changes aren't that big a deal. I put an energizer lithium in my Jazz bass back in 2017 when I installed EMG's into it, that same battery is still in there today. I've had batteries last a good 10 years. Mind you, I don't play regularly, at all.
At the time is was 779 + 13% sales tax. It has come down quite a bit. It's listed for $589 now, which pretty much matches you. I guess the price is finally started to match the name/quality. Seems I paid a bit of an early adopter fee.
yeah man, sometimes sh*t like this happens. I will never understand this sales tax BS that the US and Canada have.. just INCLUDE it in the quacking price.. Anyway thanks for replying, enjoy the bass!!@@DATT
@@adampasztor6187 I don't know about the states. Here, I believe the tax rates are different in each province, so that complicates that idea. I think it might also be marketing, so they can advertise a lower price. Some people are tax exempt and don't have to pay those prices. There are many layers to our tax system so I just this is just the easiest way to do it. But I get ya, we've all thought the same thing.
Remove the nuts on your control pots (under the pickguard) you only need a lock-washer on the underside. Then your control pots shaft will sit taller and your knobs will go on the way you wanted them to.
Yeah, I considered that, but I feel they would of stuck out too proud. I like to set them up as close to the body as possible without rubbing. So that requires a little fiddling. And as I recall in this case, the hole in the knob was deeper than the shaft, so even if I did that, I was stilling getting rubbing on the shaft base, which needed fiddling.
Ahh, ok yeah, the website says "VINTAGE-TINTED MAPLE NECK " Wonder where I got that from. And I guess the other one I tried was this stock weight, this one was indeed, over 9lbs.
@@Kevdak Ah, it's just part of my process. I got into certain projects kind of "seasonally". Then I'll do that one thing for months. As an example, I haven't played guitar or bass much all year. If I posted videos in the same order I filmed them, you could end up with a year of my just playing with model trains or something. So I film in batches. Then release slowly over time, weaving the different subjects together to keep the content diverse. I could film like 2 or even 3 vids in one week, but can only post one a week. So it build up. I could stop filming for like 2 years at this point but keep releasing a new vid every week. I bumped this video up the queue, to hopefully drop it while it was still relevant, but I guess it still took a year. Hah. It's not a perfect formula, but it's working for now.
squiers put fenders to shame, squiers look better and play just as good as a freakin 2200 dollar fender, so up to you pay 400 for a squier or 2200 for a squier with the fender name on it 😅
Man, I'd like to think the Fenders would have better consistency from unit to unit tho, but I'd bet not. Used to be a mexican fender was a much better guitar than a Squier. Some past Squiers were half useless lemons by design. Just good enough so some kid could learn their E A D's without hurting moms pocket if they lost interest.
I didn't change everything, I just changed the pickups. I liked the Look and Feel of the guitar, always wanted a P-Bass, just wanted a more contemporary response from the pickup, and exampled in the video, I can get the vintage tone back by rolling off the Vol and Tone a little bit. | Playing with pickups is part of the hobby for me anyway.
What’s your opinion on the usa fenders these days. I think they are way over priced. Especially on todays market when you can get something like a squire and make changes if needed. And still be under what a new USA fender cost wise
@@JoeD-wv1hu Sadly, I have no experience with USA made Fenders. I've always had a general bias against certain name brands. You could often buy some form of Yamaha or something that has equivalent quality for a much lesser price. I'd like to think if you buy USA you are supporting USA labour and not so much a name tax, but Idk. I used to say "Gibsons are for people who don't know how to set up ibanzes" based on the idea that, like you said, you can often buy a much cheaper guitar, and make changes to improve it. One with savvy and know how can def end up with a really nice guitar for much cheaper.
It sounded pretty good before, but I do like it better like this. Honestly, I'm not a serious player and tinkering like this is part of the hobby for me. Just to see what'll happen. You never know till your try. If you've never done a pickup change before, you could one day and be like "WOW". IF you're happy with it the way it is, then that's cool man. I admit they do see to be going for a vintage accurate tone with this, which is good. There are many guitars on the market, especially in this price range and lower, that would come with kind of "general purpose" pickups that you would want to change to suit your style. That might not be the case with this one, but it's def the case for many other. Like, there might be some, who love the feeling of the strat, but want humbucker output level, and the colour model they fell for came stuck with singles, so they change the pickup and get what they want. In the case, I loved the look and feel, but I wanted a bit more modern response and touch sensitivity.
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Love the honest review. Most channels just talk about how great this bass is with very few cons without enough details.
Yeah I noticed that too. Not sure if all those guys were paid, or got a cherry picked sample, or, just wanted to encourage people to consider "affordable" options.
I have this exact same bass, including the same color. I like it quite a lot I did end up swapping the pickups for some Fender Pure Vintage, but really the stock pickups were not bad. I also put on a tort pick guard just to be different, but it's a nice looking and playing bass regardless. My only other upgrade was a Hipshot high mass bridge.
I have yet to dabble into bass bridges. I've barely scratched the surface on guitar bridged even. Probably cause I'm better with electronics, and pickups offer more profound a change.
Funny you mention the pick guard. I actually liked the aluminum enough, I ended up ordering an aluminum for one of my strat builds.
This was sick!
Thanks !
Are those standard Fender pots? I've read that many Squier Ps have a smaller diameter pot hole in the pickguard. Or did you use the original pots?
Oh yeah, some guitars have smaller pot holes, this one does seems of have come with the smaller ones. For the EMG's I used the ones that came with the EMG's cause they are a different value. EMG's use A25k pots with a 0.1u(104) tone cap. Stock was A250k, with a 0.047(473) tone pot.
Why push active circuits with EMG pickups everywhere? Let's leave place for classic guitars with cheap sockets :D Especially for 40th anniversary. I have mint colour of this guitar and quality and sound is amazing. I love play on it
Ah, I'm not pushing anything. Hell, I try to push people away from EMG normally. But I got them for the right price, and I tend to like them in bass. In this case, I liked the look and feel of this bass, but wanted a slightly more modern response.
Why not try the Pachyderm Gold? I did… it’s dope!
Oh, well I got these for a really good deal, that's essentially why.
Those did seems interesting. I think the gold might match the pick guard even, tho, I do like the splash of contrast.
You must have been very unlucky, dude. Mine (from Thomann, Germany) came perfect right out of the box. It would have been nice if you compared the old with the new pickups. Most of the reviews (and from my own experience) have no complaints about the sound quality.
Yeah I guess I was. None of the ones I looked at at the store were perfect, they all had trade offs.
That bass is just under 400 dollars in the U.S and .6 Onces isn't that wierd of a difference between two of the exact same basses it depends on where the on the slab the wood was cut from I've seen two identical basses where the difference was almost a pound
It has dropped in price since I got it. IN fact, it dropped like $100 cdn less than a month after I got it and the store refunded me the difference.
Yeah, I didn't really thing 6 oz was a big deal, but, Idk, I just wanted that bit more weight, and in the end, this was the better sounded of the ones I tried.
@@DATT Niiiiice 👍
@@MarcG7424 Yeah, it was a funny story kind of. There was this situation with the person who randomly demanded money from me that day, I won't get into it, but I had to drop by the store after I met with them, and I got that refund. It felt like some sort of karma even. Like they were so in the wrong, I was granted twice what they were asking after the ordeal. hahah.
And it gets worse, the only reason I was out that day, was to meet with them, and, it would of been like 30 days exactly, it would of been the last day I could of cashed in the price protection.
Found one yesterday for $180 and shipping at Musician's Friend. At that price, upgrading isn't crazy whatsoever. Looks like a good bass platform to work with.
Yeah I thought to. Overall, I do like it.
Me too. I swapped electronics/redrilled pot holes. I'm happy.@@DATT
I believe the 40th Anniversary Squier has a vintage-tinted neck. It is not roasted as stated in the video.
Yeah, hah, second guy to call me on it this week. Indeed I had it wrong.
Looks sexy. Its a shame an $800 bass just got slapped together but at the end of the day it will be great and look fantastic. My OCD would kick in with all those wonky screws though. Its easy to plug the holes and re-drill but they should have been straight to begin with
Yeah, kind of have to let things go a bit with this one. Like it's not THAT bad. Kind of only notice if you're really looking at it.
not bad for someone who start playing bass 2 month ago....keep up the pratice
Ah, I got a bass in like 2017 I think, or was it 2016, but admittedly, I'm not a serious player, probably haven't progressed much since then, haha.
I have a question for you. Given that Fender can be Nazis when dealing with warranty issues (that is, Fender often nullifies warranties for even trivial reasons. For example, I had a claim on screwed up wiring denied because I put a sticker on the pick guard of my new Player Series Telecaster….sheeeesh!), didn’t you endanger your warranty when you installed the EMG pickup and slightly modified the wiring. And if the warranty is no longer valid because of these changes, they why not make the wiring cavity slightly larger to accommodate the 9 volt battery. Seems like a more elegant solution than an external power source. Anyway, you are the man and your videos are both informative and entertaining. Best wishes. By the way, not to break your heart, but I got the same bass for $299.00 US about two months ago from Sweetwater.
Ahh, that doesn't break my heart, stuff in Canada is more expensive on merit of the exchange alone, and it has dropped in price across the board since I got mine.
As for warranty, yeah, I do believe I violated the warranty, however, I have skills enough I could put the stock pickups back in and they'd never know, (short of this video evidence). I kind of drew the line there.
It's been almost a year now, I still havent' claimed. I guess I'm just over it at this point. Also at this price point, I'm not tooooo worried. Years ago, I bought a brand new Mexican Fender Jag bass, that cost something like $1400, $1700 out the door all in with a nice case and strap, and shortly after I got it, a pickup died. I found a wire just came loose, a problem I could fix in 5 minutes, but I was super paro about warranty. I asked the manager at the store, they know me, and what I can do, they gave me the go ahead. They have a different manager now, but, he's an old buddy I go way back with. He'd pull a string or two for me. I also am antiquated with the local certified Fender Tech and have talked good shop with him enough I feel I'm safe for this far of a mod.
At the end of the day, I just didn't want to cut into this nice fresh shiny new bass, risk lowering the weight, after fussing about 6oz, and was interested in trying my hand at the external PSU idea. I still run it that was to this day, and it was a useful solution as I've also "actived" a strat that I wasn't getting a battery into either. "Just wanted to try something different" you know.
@@DATT thanks for the reply. Right after I wrote my comment I thought that since your work solved the problem (and battery change is easier with the external power source compared to removing the pick guard each time), why the heck do anything more. Simplicity is the more eloquent solution. Again best wishes and note that I am now a subscriber.
@@michaelmcdonald8877 To be fair, battery changes aren't that big a deal. I put an energizer lithium in my Jazz bass back in 2017 when I installed EMG's into it, that same battery is still in there today. I've had batteries last a good 10 years. Mind you, I don't play regularly, at all.
Squiers are great
They have gotten better, or maybe they always were good. There had been bad ones.
I have a "bad strat", made of plywood, sounds mushy with humbuckers.
in europe this bass costs 408 euros wtf as of today that's 598 CAD? still not 800 how could this possibly be 800? :O :O
At the time is was 779 + 13% sales tax.
It has come down quite a bit. It's listed for $589 now, which pretty much matches you.
I guess the price is finally started to match the name/quality.
Seems I paid a bit of an early adopter fee.
yeah man, sometimes sh*t like this happens. I will never understand this sales tax BS that the US and Canada have.. just INCLUDE it in the quacking price.. Anyway thanks for replying, enjoy the bass!!@@DATT
@@adampasztor6187 I don't know about the states. Here, I believe the tax rates are different in each province, so that complicates that idea. I think it might also be marketing, so they can advertise a lower price. Some people are tax exempt and don't have to pay those prices. There are many layers to our tax system so I just this is just the easiest way to do it.
But I get ya, we've all thought the same thing.
That bass costs under 300€/$ right now
Yeah eh, that'd still be at least $600 or more ins CDN.
Remove the nuts on your control pots (under the pickguard) you only need a lock-washer on the underside.
Then your control pots shaft will sit taller and your knobs will go on the way you wanted them to.
Yeah, I considered that, but I feel they would of stuck out too proud.
I like to set them up as close to the body as possible without rubbing. So that requires a little fiddling. And as I recall in this case, the hole in the knob was deeper than the shaft, so even if I did that, I was stilling getting rubbing on the shaft base, which needed fiddling.
the neck is NOT roasted and the weight is 9 pounds
Ahh, ok yeah, the website says "VINTAGE-TINTED MAPLE NECK " Wonder where I got that from.
And I guess the other one I tried was this stock weight, this one was indeed, over 9lbs.
3mo later and it’s $650 CAD out the door lol
3 months ? I got this like late 2022. But yeah, I paid an early adopter tax for sure.
Damn why a year to upload?
@@Kevdak Ah, it's just part of my process. I got into certain projects kind of "seasonally". Then I'll do that one thing for months. As an example, I haven't played guitar or bass much all year. If I posted videos in the same order I filmed them, you could end up with a year of my just playing with model trains or something. So I film in batches. Then release slowly over time, weaving the different subjects together to keep the content diverse.
I could film like 2 or even 3 vids in one week, but can only post one a week. So it build up.
I could stop filming for like 2 years at this point but keep releasing a new vid every week.
I bumped this video up the queue, to hopefully drop it while it was still relevant, but I guess it still took a year. Hah. It's not a perfect formula, but it's working for now.
The vato found everything wrong with it. 😂 where the hater aid at though
Hah yeah I guess I did eh ? I'm not sure I understand the hater aid part tho.
squiers put fenders to shame, squiers look better and play just as good as a freakin 2200 dollar fender, so up to you pay 400 for a squier or 2200 for a squier with the fender name on it 😅
Man, I'd like to think the Fenders would have better consistency from unit to unit tho, but I'd bet not. Used to be a mexican fender was a much better guitar than a Squier. Some past Squiers were half useless lemons by design. Just good enough so some kid could learn their E A D's without hurting moms pocket if they lost interest.
OH dear lord just take the strings off..cant cope watching😅
Yeah, I'm all about my sneaky tricks sometimes. I've changed to many pickups in my years, I've come up with a few alternative strategies.
@@DATT I think the general consensus would be that is not a sneaky trick😆
@@sidstewart7399 Well, maybe not.
Why buy it to change everything. I buy a bass because I like the sound and feel
I didn't change everything, I just changed the pickups.
I liked the Look and Feel of the guitar, always wanted a P-Bass, just wanted a more contemporary response from the pickup, and exampled in the video, I can get the vintage tone back by rolling off the Vol and Tone a little bit. |
Playing with pickups is part of the hobby for me anyway.
What’s your opinion on the usa fenders these days. I think they are way over priced. Especially on todays market when you can get something like a squire and make changes if needed. And still be under what a new USA fender cost wise
@@JoeD-wv1hu Sadly, I have no experience with USA made Fenders.
I've always had a general bias against certain name brands. You could often buy some form of Yamaha or something that has equivalent quality for a much lesser price. I'd like to think if you buy USA you are supporting USA labour and not so much a name tax, but Idk. I used to say "Gibsons are for people who don't know how to set up ibanzes" based on the idea that, like you said, you can often buy a much cheaper guitar, and make changes to improve it. One with savvy and know how can def end up with a really nice guitar for much cheaper.
Why TF are these clowns upgrading. It doesn’t make sense! If you don’t like it don’t buy it!!!
It sounded pretty good before, but I do like it better like this. Honestly, I'm not a serious player and tinkering like this is part of the hobby for me. Just to see what'll happen. You never know till your try. If you've never done a pickup change before, you could one day and be like "WOW". IF you're happy with it the way it is, then that's cool man.
I admit they do see to be going for a vintage accurate tone with this, which is good.
There are many guitars on the market, especially in this price range and lower, that would come with kind of "general purpose" pickups that you would want to change to suit your style. That might not be the case with this one, but it's def the case for many other.
Like, there might be some, who love the feeling of the strat, but want humbucker output level, and the colour model they fell for came stuck with singles, so they change the pickup and get what they want. In the case, I loved the look and feel, but I wanted a bit more modern response and touch sensitivity.