i mean it is just like doing body work on a car.. i could prob learn how to do it just buy watching a video and do it on myself for free with the right tools
Well, that would be death, to be honest, unfortunately. If the wrong tooth is abcessed for too long, the infection could travel to the brain which would likely kill the patient.
My friend had a tooth infection, he ignored, and it went to his brain. They had to emergency fly him to Charlotte to do brain surgery. Now he's mentally handicapped from the damage done.
Correct. Infection in the mouth can travel and affect the brain and heart. It's why we have to give certain patients antibiotics before doing even a simple cleaning. How do these techs know if that person needs premedication prior to service? And who is licensed to prescribe such medication? They are playing Russian roulette with these folks.
@@lizthedisjointedzebra692 Heck. If ANY tooth is abscessed for too long the infection can travel to the brain or heart. That's when prescribing antibiotics and draining the abscess comes into play. These techs are playing with folks lives.
With unsterilized tools. They don't have autoclaves to properly sterilize the tools that are going from mouth to mouth. Someone is going to contract HIV, hep C, etc etc Screwing up their teeth should be the least of their worries!
Hell, I am an Expanded Functions Dental Assistant, with an actual degree, and certification in placing restorations, and even I am not legally allowed to prep(drill), only a licensed dentist is allowed to, either a DMD or DDS. This is just absolutely appalling.
My wife runs a dental practice. They get one or two customers a WEEK coming in to have remedial work done to fix poorly fitted veneers. Some of the damage is long term and, worst of all, most of them had decent teeth in the first place and didn’t need veneers.
lol, if you want a bright smile, just don't wash your teeth for years and when your teeth are fucked, put them all out and take a dentale plate but don't play with your real teeth by putting something on them that will never last
I think the problem is there are a lot of people who genuinely don't understand that Dentists are a type of legitimate medical doctor, they just see them as like a type of cleaner; so they don't understand that what they're doing when trying to become a "veneer tech" is just them learning how to commit real medical malpractice.
Just watched another RUclips video, That’s wild some lady just got arrested for being a fake orthodontist/dentist. She deff got licensed by these guys.
Veneers are not a strong as natural teeth so will crack,chip and break just by eating with them.Go ahead and get them but start getting used to a liquid diet now.
@neilbradley5011 I have a few that were put in almost 10 years ago...thankfully, no issues at all. My dentist helped me accomplish all of my dental goals, and I'm grateful for it.
You paid for a flight, hotel, and $2000 but couldn’t afford proper dental care? Man just go to a damn Dentist. And who uses cash app for “medical” services?
@@dancingwithtiktokytYou only get one set of teeth. $2000 per tooth isn't that crazy, they are something you have for life and are worth taking good care of.
@@nickpavia9021 Yes this is obcious for those of us with common sense, but the comment was explaining why having money for the flight plus the procedure doesn't necessarily mean they have enough for it to be done by a licensed dentist given the huge price difference. Desperation can lead ppl to make dumb decisions like that too.
As a dentist, I find this incredibly reckless, dangerous, and shocking to hear that this is happening. Thank you for helping raise awareness about this issue so we can protect individuals from this atrocity.
@@autygris1 I surely hope they don’t dare touch a hand piece to someone’s tooth. In most cases, we (dentists) do prep the teeth minimally for veneers. The extent of the preparation is ideally only in the outer enamel layer of the teeth; for an ideal preparation we are removing less than a millimeter of enamel. The cements and bonding processes that we use are able to bond durably and predictably to the remaining enamel, which has been strategically and safely reduced in thickness using reduction guides and specialized burrs. Minimal preparations also allow for future replacement of veneers; no dental treatment lasts a lifetime. We run into problems when a tooth is prepped more aggressively and the underlying dentin layer is exposed for treatment planned veneers. Clinical evidence shows that premature complications may arise when teeth are prepared into dentin for veneers. Whether due to a clinicians overzealous technique, lack of proper continuing educational training, or in cases where we are trying to over-improve the appearance of tooth position that would be better suited by clear aligner therapy first (followed by veneers if the patient doesn’t like the shape/shade of their teeth), early failure can occur. These less than ideal conditions can result in veneers that at the very least, fail prematurely. More severe complications involving tooth pulp vitality issues and/or periodontal issues are not common, but can happen. Attempting to be heroic in dentistry can go hand-in-hand with compromised situations, especially at the patient’s expense and well being. No prep veneers, on the other hand, can leave the patient with less than ideal esthetics and function. In some cases there could be a need for a no-prep veneer (e.g. congenitally thin enamel or thin enamel as a result of excessive/prolonged acidic conditions in the mouth). Such patients should also be informed that they will likely need to be fitted for either minimally prepped veneers where possible or restorations that provide full coverage, i.e., a crown, in the future.
Just watched another RUclips video, That’s wild some lady just got arrested for being a fake orthodontist/dentist. She deff got licensed by these guys.
@@autygris1You don't grind them down to pegs like they do in Turkey. Those things you see on social media are terribly prepped teeth. It's normally much more conservative than that.
when I used to watch animated horror stories online, I saw one about a girl who went to another country for dental work and the guy working on her teeth was hitting on her. she turned him down as best as she could and he ended up holding her hostage there, saying he wasn’t going to finish her teeth. even if the story wasn’t real, it’s made me super nervous about seeing anybody for dental work, much less some dude in his own home after a two day course.
I don't understand how someone could be so stupid to follow through with a procedure performed by one of these charlatans. Hurray I spelled charlatan right the first time. I usually get that word wrong. Have a nice day!
And I'm watching this after getting my appointment setup to fix my teeth and I have extreme anxiety when it comes to the dentist and this isn't helping lol
@@TypeHoeNegative That seems super tame compared to all the real examples of dentists that pull out a bunch of teeth for no reason when only one is needed like the one in Florida that beat and choked children as he kept extracting teeth.
To be licensed as a barber in my state you need to complete a 1,500 long program at a state-approved barber school. These people are grinding down teeth after watching someone speak for 2 days.
@maryjane4432 yeah it would fall under being illegal since they aren't licensed, and are doing what would be considered Surgery. I went to a low income clinic and had to get root canals done ( what that lady was saying the one guy whose teeth were near the gums needed. They pull out the tooth ( which means veins and such in the tooth) and replace them with fakes) obviously that would fall under surgery and the clinic informed me that I would have to go elsewhere since they didn't have the equipment to do such procedures. Right before I was going to seek elsewhere they got the equipment needed and were then able to proceed. In the end since they were public and not private it was costing too much in both time and money so I just got the rest done in Mexico since there was a dentist my parents had always gone to there lol. The takeaway is dentistry falls under multiple categories and any such operation on teeth like that to my understanding would count as surgery. Like the one dentist stated at that point it's also about managing the customers health since you are performing a surgery. They aren't licensed to perform a surgery nor do they have insurance to cover themselves ( which I am sure would require the license) in the case of an emergency which also makes their business illegal.
it's like my dad always said "if you're gonna spend more then $500 on a product, don't half-ass it. go to a reputable or a professional, spend the money." buy once, cry once...
The lack of affordability of US healthcare has nothing to do with people seeking cosmetic dentistry. Insurance doesn't cover veneers or other cosmetic procedures generally.
If enough falls out it usually does. Had a friend that his dentist said once he loses 5 more teeth the insurance will have to cover it 😂 😭@@Angelonwheels24
@@Angelonwheels24 In what situation would your teeth fall out without warning? It's usually years of neglect, drug use, or trauma that causes such things. If it was trauma related you probably have much bigger things to worry about. Associated pain would be managed if you sought emergency care, but losing your teeth isn't life threatening on its own.
I mean in some cases it could still be professional, as a dentist just quickly checking up on a patient or vice versa if the dentist was unable to be reached at their office or the customer is trying to find the best time to head in if said dentist works in an office with multiple others and you want to be sure to get a certain dentist lol. But I get what you mean lol.
My dad used to work as a dentist who performed, "all-on-four" dental implant procedures to replace entire upper and lower jaws of teeth. The entire procedure cost around $40,000 to replace all teeth vs $4000-$6000 per dental implant to replace single teeth. The procedure costs as much as a new car, but includes coordinating care between general dentists, periodontists (dentists specializing in oral plastic// reconstructive gum // bone surgery) or oral maxillofacial surgeons, radiological studies including CT scans to create a drill guide to exactly place implants, follow up care, diagnostic exams, and the fact that the supplies have an extremely high overhead price. My dad is likely rolling in his grave over this blatant dental malpractice.
Right. Like it's one thing if you're very broke and need dental work, but it's another when you're trying to save money on a dental procedure. I don't want a discount on my surgery unless it's some kind of grant.
But people don’t, in the early 2000s it was fake butt implants and injections, in the 2010s it was fake Botox/lip injections, and now it veneers and plastic surgery.
In most states you gotta complete courses and pass state exams to work on someone's FINGERNAILS. The idea that you can just take an online court to work on people's teeth is sheer madness.
I was in a hospital and needed my nails trimmed. None of the nurses could do it as they were not licenced for it. I had to contact my provider and they had to send a nurse that had an additional cert/licence to not only cut nails but also clean up the calluses for estheticia treatment
This is exactly why people are ignoring the law. They wrongly believe that dentistry is being over regulated like nails and hair cutting and therefore they fall for this garbage.
@@somenygaard although obviously not as important as, say a legit dentist or doctor's certification, nail and hair techs still need to know how to safely preform their duties safely, valid certification is just a way to prove you know what ur doing
@@EndoftheBeginning17 so youre saying that if i went to nail school, i could THEORETICALLY get a job as a nurse clipping nails? Thats more pay for the same degree 😍
@nostalgicumbry3279 you'd probably need some form of nursing license or training or such, on top of the nail training and certification, to y'know, be a nurse
lol, we commented on these scammers around dental groups on facebook all the time but we also didnt know how to bring law enforcement into it. Even the state board apparently didnt care.
When you see an advertised course with the words 'Liability Waiver' included that should probably be the biggest red flag ever. And I doubt that 'Waiver' would stand up in court when these so-called 'techs' are answering for gross negligence.
That one chick thinks by having people sign a waiver that it will absolve her from responsibility even though they're illegally practicing dentistry. They're just fooling themselves!
@@GrandmaJoJo-gd6yh They are absolutely fooling themselves because a waiver won't protect you if a court finds you've acted negligently in a way that has harmed a person. But my question is, why would someone need to sign a 'Liability Waiver' to attend a course? Answer - because it's not an accredited course and is based on an illegal presumption, that presumption being the illegal practice of dentistry in that particular State.
The only way I could see it stand up in court ( and that would still be a big battle to win depending on how they word their stuff) is if they had an actual licensed dentist in the room as they were teaching their course. They would also need to point out their printed certificates mean nothing lol.
@@Lady1974Mthat and if you saw the footage ( think it was the first one Atozy showed) it appears they were using the class to practice on ( on hand experience portion).
@@TheCommanderTaco I doubt a real dentist has been anywhere near these 'Tech Trainers'. Not an ethical dentist at least. Practicing on each other in class...ugh! That gives me the horrors. So in essence the $5000 class fee is really just to get veneers put on under the guise of 'practical learning'.
Though a good chunk of the stories that were shared in this video could afford it. That Dallas lady could have went to Mexico and saved so much more money lol. Plus at the end of the day from what I can tell Veneers truly don't solve the root of the problem. I would argue they are more preying on people's insecurities.
@@TheCommanderTaco What? How would you know what they can afford? They are quite expensive,. Porcelain ones can be close to 3k per tooth, depending where you are even composite can easily be 10k+ for a full set
@-xxMelissaxx- if you don't know what you are doing yes I agree. I was just stating going to the border ( Progresso) could potentially be alot cheaper if they are truly looking for a cheaper option. Obviously taking that route the place you go to won't have any emergency medical insurance ( a big reason dentist in Mexico are alot cheaper for the Dallas lady) and last time I went almost every other step was a person asking if I need a dentist lol.
The scammers are scum, but then again a fool and their money are easily parted. You'd have to ignore a Chinese military parade of red flags before you even get to the point of paying these people.
@@helvete983a lack of insight on how a real dentist should operate plays a big part. Yeah, we can call these people stupid for doing this but you can't know what you've never been taught
As horrendous as this situation is, nobody winning a lawsuit. It's almost impossible to collect any compensation through a civil court anyway. These scammers don't have malpractice insurance like real a DDS. So unfortunately the customer/victim is on their own.
As an adult, going to someone with a 2 day certificate over a licensed dentist with at least a decade long medical degree is natural selection at its finest.
@@peanutsarecheap1997if you were looking for a cosmetic surgeon and randomly found one on Instagram for WAAAYY cheaper, would you blindly trust they know what they’re doing or would you do your due diligence to research their credentials and work before putting your life at risk? Going to a veneer tech they randomly found on SM when licensed dentists and orthodontists can be found on google according to region is ignorance at best and generally stupid as fuck. And some of these veneer techs don’t even hide the fact they got 2 days worth of training and still get clients.
@@peanutsarecheap1997 This is also a textbook case of 'What you don't know can hurt you', except it absolutely will hurt you and cost you so much more money.
I have a friend who got a heart infection from regular dental work and it did a lot of damage, he had to retire at 35 and his heart will never fully heal. These people are going to kill somebody.
The one rule and only rule you should follow when doing procedures! Don’t go to a TikToker for anything that involves your body or health!! This is exactly what happens. I can’t believe people fall for this after that surgeon TikTok lady got prison time and stripped of her license.
Moral of the story is, never use TikTok as a place to find _any_ kind of service. Doesn't matter if it's dentistry or surgery or tattoos or pink sauces or cakes. Just keep it local! At least then if you get scammed, you don't have to fly halfway across the country for it.
I worked at a dentistry office. Dental veneers are custom-made shells that fit over the -front- surfaces (buccal, sometimes mesial and distal) of your teeth. They do not need to shave down the tooth to a nub. If you go to a dentist where they say they have to do that, they are scamming you. Shaving the teeth down, that procedure is like odontoplasty, enameloplasty and/or occlusal equilibration. That is not veneers. An implant is when they remove the tooth, put in a screw where the tooth was and place a custom new tooth on top of it.
Honestly, if you want a cheaper solution but want nice white teeth, do dental bonding. A LOT cheaper and when they break, just replace them. If you take care of your bonding, they can last over 10 years. Basically, the dentist is just putting composite(your choice of color) over the front of your teeth. You already get composite when you get a filling. It's safe and non-invasive.
I need a bunch of dental work done (was very bad about brushing my teeth as a kid, ate a lot of candy, drank soda, etc...), if I went to someone and they told that they got their degree from a "TikTok Class" I'd be out of there so fast.
If you don't have dental insurance or the money, I know how expensive dental work is, go to one of your local hospitals that have a dental school, everything is overseen by licensed dentists. Just a suggestion
@@GrandmaJoJo-gd6yhI was coming to type this! Even local churches offer help and have some dentists that work with them. In md mission of mercy has a mobile bus that goes around to help people. Health department is a good place for resources so is social services
Are you near a college with a dental program? That is a good way to get a significant discount, I would check any dental programs in your area, they all have clinics. Even for us EFDAs, we had a few patients from the clinic at our college to do FMXs and coronal polishing on.
Ikr. I also have the same issue. A lot of small cavities, and I have had them since i was a teen (24 now). I really want to get it fixed, but obviously, dental work is very expensive. Even so, I can't imagine going to to a random person who is not licensed to work on such an important part of the body to just play around with my teeth. That's not really gonna fix my problem, just give me more problems. Hopefully, we can both get the dental treatment we need soon. The fact that my oral health is not good has always bothered me. I can't afford it even with good insurance
No thank you. I recently spent 5 grand on an actual oral surgeon to have my teeth removed because they were dangerous to my health, but I'd rather that than risk these nightmares for less
I spent 5 grand on braces to widen the arch span of my teeth cuz they were too narrow and small for my mouth and were causing me migraines and tmj nerve and jaw pain. Worth it. Couldn’t fix one baby tooth that stubbornly wouldn’t straighten, but am pain free and teeth look great 😬 the money us with it when its good dentists/ orthodontics
I'm an EFDA, and I took an entire year of courses to learn how to place resin restorations, in addition to other tasks. It's no joke, you have to KNOW dental anatomy in order to replicate it. And that poor guy at 12:35 needs to sue. It is possible that his teeth could be salvageable, but he would at LEAST need build ups before crowns, if not multiple endo procedures. That right there could kill him. The rampant decay is STILL THERE under the resin, if he ends up abcessed on the wrong tooth for too long, the infection could reach his brain. Not to mention the almost 100% likelihood of developing periodontal disease, which is linked to heart disease. That clip was downright terrifying.
I know a girl who has sisters that opened a beauty salon and they do fillers, eyebrows and eyelashes as well as body sculpting procedures, etc. and they have “vaneer techs” there and now Im looking back at it like ummm I feel like I should report them because I had no idea until now thats not even a real thing..
You should absolutely report them because if they seriously harm someone it will be your friend's sisters' business that bears the cost of any legal consequences because the harm occurred on their premises. I would seriously question how qualified those girls are to do fillers and other procedures as well because those also require adequate training and accreditation.
REPORT IT!!! Someone can have an infection and it could travel up to their brain and kill them. Also you need to eat in order to live so why would you mess with your teeth.
@@GrandmaJoJo-gd6yh I have to find the name of their salon she posts on her snapchat story still promoting it so next time she does Ill take note of it. I had no idea until now that youtubers are making us aware of it honestly.
Totally different scam situation, I got scammed by Penn Foster when I was 19 and pregnant and a CNA and needed to make a step into a better career. I was young and stupid and trusted the whole “nationally accredited school” BS. I paid $900 for their pharmacy tech online course, passed all their tests, got certified, and of course despite getting a few interviews nobody would hire me as soon as they asked where I got my education. It was humiliating and I had to go back to being a nursing assistant in an Alzheimer’s home after having my son. This was during the recession too. My husband lost his high paying job right after our son was born (his company owner was embezzling and defrauding the navy with their boats, it was a nightmare. They fired the higher paid workers first to save money before they were busted 😢) he had a job the next day at a tire place but at minimum wage. I will always warn young impressionable people, do not let those online schools take advantage of you. They should be illegal. I know this is different from this situation but I couldn’t resist calling one scam out while seeing another
I can't believe the number of people who will pay a couple month's salary for life altering procedures from a TikTok doc, without at least googling "is this a scam?"
@user-xr7ci8tf3e But veneers are purely cosmetic. The systematic issues regarding the cost of needed dental care is one thing, but this is equivalent of getting a BBL in a motel room. Scammers should be 100% arrested but these people played stupid games not doing any proper research and won stupid prizes. Everyone makes mistakes, they still deserve legal justice, but we can acknowledge their fault in this was being extremely negligent to save money
As a dental assistant please go to a certified and trained dentist. Teeth are no joke, especially when it is infected. A certified dentist will actually treat your teeth, not a fake one.
Holy crap you mean I didn't have to go to school for 4 years, have 10,000+ hours of coursework and clinical experience, and pay over $300,000? Crazy, it's almost like these veneer techs couldn't possibly have anywhere close to the amount of knowledge they need in order to do these procedures. Source: I am a general dentist
It is a shame that dental care is so unaffordable for the vast majority of people in the US, I think that this is a major driving factor that even has a lot of people considering something as insane as what's in this video, as an option in the first place.
I agree that the cost of dental care is prohibitive to a large portion of the population in the US and it is why people seek out services such as this. I cant blame the patients seeking out an affordable alternative, and I absolutely cant blame the patients not understanding the severe lack of knowledge these techs have. It's not the patients field of expertise, how could I haha. However, what I can't wrap my mind around is the way this felony activity is broadly displayed online, it is atrocious how legal action has not been taken. Legitimately, every time these techs prepare(that's what the drilling is called) a tooth its a felony. Each state has a strict code that outlines what duties each position in the dental field can perform. Veneer techs are NOT an actual thing, and for them to provide any services dictated to only be performed by a D.D.S. or D.M.D. is highly illegal.
The way veneers are put in is a horrifying thing, and it blows my mind that anybody would do this. Sometimes, I see people with them off, and it looks like a horror movie.
As an actual dentist, if they really are only doing composite veneers that doesn’t actually require “grinding down” and prepping teeth. But it does require a lot more knowledge to execute properly than I imagine you could learn from an online course. This is like getting a gold grill made by some dude on Facebook marketplace.
The fact they aren’t insured either because they don’t have licensing to get the insurance needed should be a major red flag for people. There’s a reason we require licensing and insurance for professional jobs that can hurt people if the provider messes up.
8:26 he was sending that woman her money back thinking she was going to book another appointment!😂 The moment he heard her say “you won’t hear from me again” he said “NAHHHHHH”😂
likely just due to 1) lack of reports and/or 2) they are in the process but it takes time and no real legal business would share the information before a solution is found. once we get more lawsuits and legal complaints itll snowball from there
Exactly! None of them did any kind of research on something called “veneer tech” and that it takes two days to get that fake certificate. They just went on ahead and paid the deposit, airline tickets, and hotel, not to mention, signed a consent form w/o reading it, thinking that are getting a good deal from a “veneer tech.” I don’t feel sorry for any of them. They don’t even hold themselves accountable for going to a two day training certificate “veneer tech” in which they blindly signed a consent form because they wanted the job done cheaply and right away. Make it make sense. 🤦🏾♀️
I had a 2 day course about grinding and welding steel. These Veneer techs are doing the same, just on smaller and less harder things. How hard can it be? "sarcasm off"
Glad that one woman mentioned Endocarditis, these "tecks" are gonna kills someone via that. I have to take a pre-med before every dental exam and cleaning due too a heart condition, I had a pastor whose dad died of Endocarditis from a basic tooth cleaning. There is a reason why dentists are licensed.
That shot is no joke. You can even get that from eating probiotics following an oral surgery. And its not a super rare occurrence, not alot of dental practices mention that to patients, which they should. I learned about it from a family member nearly dying following a root canal. At some probiotics yogurt after it. Got that and nearly died cu doctors couldnt figure it out until they opened him up and saw the damage and asked his surgical history and connected the dots.
Long time viewer and first time poster here. As a 2nd year dental student, I'm so glad you brought this to problem to light. I was just talking to one of my classmates this past week about this exact problem. We go through 4 years rigorous didactic and hands on training, 2 days is a joke. I understand that going to the dentist is not cheap, but this isn't the way to go about it. If you have access to a dental school in your area (please) I suggest you try to go there first. They usually offer procedures at discounted rate (just be prepared for longer appointment times due to oversight from faculty.) There are so many things that could go wrong with this "simple procedure." It's sad to see so many people are getting hurt by these people. I hope these criminals are brought to justice. Again, thank you for bringing this issue to light and for all of your hard work in making your content.
I feel like making a fake veneer tech tiktok page and then when people show up to get them done I would just sit them down and explain to them all the things that can go horribly wrong by letting someone unqualified and untrained play in their mouth for 2k, and then point them to the nearest proper dentist.
I would LOVE to see a dentist walk in there, sit through the schtick, and then quiz them on dental knowledge as soon as I finished eating the free lunch.
if you notice this almost exclusively a bl ack problem. elective dental work thats not needed, picked him based on tick toc, poor use of money, unable to see obvious red flags checks all the boxes. What's dummer is she's in Texas could have gone to Mexico and get the whole thing done for half the cost if not more.
I got a terrible tooth infection. It didn’t hurt so I never got it checked. Well turns out it deteriorated my heart valve. (I should have gotten it checked) well 2 months and 4 strokes later. I came out alive. Right side paralyzed from head to toe. Tons of speech therapy and physical therapy. This is stupid and dangerous asf! My life was on a thin line! Cannot believe they’re doing this.
Did you know you had a tooth infection before it wrecked your health? Sorry if that seems mean. I really want to know, because I want to make sure I don't have anything going on with my teeth without my notice
I almost died from a tooth infection about a year back.. went from a fit 145 pounds all the way down to 113 lbs. My teeth are effed up. I can’t afford real veneers so I understand why a “ veneer tech “ could sound appealing. Do it the real way, the safe way, one step at a time🙏
Lol I literally had to do more training at McDonald's for the grill. But you can get a whole new grill from a drunk dude in a sketchy hotel room with less training. Wtf 😂
In the UK lots of people fly to Turkey, get them done cheap, come back, have complications and infections, have to be treated on the NHS hospital as an emergency, taxpayer picks up the bill. Then they have to spend £10,000+ to private dentists here to get them fixed. It's false economy, don't do it!
I was planning on going to turkey myself to get mine done. Now I’m confused. I’m glad I came across this. Are the ones in turkey real dentist or scammers. Please help
About 15 years ago my dad was working in India and decided to get his teeth done because it was cheaper than having them done here in the US. When he came back home I was in shock, he looked like he had swapped teeth with a goat. They were horrible and he’s had nothing but problems since.
Folk who want cosmetic stuff shouldn't have to expect the NHS to fork out for it since tis not a medical thing. Plus £60 for fillings and such is not that bad. Tis only if ye need new teeth and everything than ye looking at the third band which is £200~+
I literally had to have open heart surgery for this exact reason. The college of dentistry in my province said that pre meds were unnecessary and did more harm than good, and within a month, myself and 3 others in Ontario got endocarditis. Not fun.
Companies don’t care one bit about you or your family. They say what they say, to get you to work hard. The minute you question things and speak out you’re done for.
@@johnnyf3894 Yeah, I can make mistakes too and it's not going to be life or death. I can easily fix any mistake I make. Unlike these temu dentists, they crack a tooth, it gets infected, and you get bacteria in your brain.
@@johnnyf3894 yeah, and if they break a tooth, it can get infected and they can die. I can't kill anyone by scheduling them with the wrong doctor or at the wrong time. I can easily go back and fix whatever I did wrong.
No. They last much longer then that. Assuming you do the regular care for them and yearly check ups. I had my tooth cap for 25+ years before they fell off on their own. Veneers are suppose to much better than doing a cap since you are “replacing” the tooth and isn’t molded to be glued on your existing tooth like a cap does. Given the glue of my caps have been on since I was kid and me close to hitting my 40s, I say mine did their job.
No, veneers will last 20-30 years with modern materials and care. Realistically a lifetime if you are simply not neglectful and go to a dentist for regular checkups.
I had gastric bypass done in 2021. Between the nutrient deficiency and the sickness I kept having, I now have teeth cracking (eating soft foods too) and falling out. I’m not someone who has a lot of money tho I am working extra jobs to save for dental implants. I have done every bit of research to find out how I can get help because honestly I’m so embarrassed of my teeth and won’t even smile in public because I look like a crackhead. Had I not seen and heard about what these “veneer techs” were doing, I feel like I absolutely would have fallen for this scam. Not out of being dumb etc but out of sheer desperation. I’m not sure if anyone reading this has had similar issues but it really affects your mental health. I’m happy to see Atozy covering this to make sure people know not to do this. You’re forever ruining your teeth and that’s alot of money you most likely wouldn’t get a penny of back. Bright side? I used to weigh 367lbs and as of today I’m down to 135lbs. 💜💪
Check your local dental schools. It will be dental students doing the procedures but of course they will be supervised by dentists. Also your insurance should cover the dental care because it's a side effect from your weight loss procedure.
Taiwan is a good place for getting them. Cash talks there and they are actually Dentists. I've met people who have got Implants there. I spent 9k for 2 of them 13 years ago! I wish I had checked out options
@@AndiCandieunfortunately nope dental insurance doesn’t cover that because it’s considered “cosmetic “ As far as the OP I had weight loss surgery as well about 10 years ago so I totally understand what your going thru.
@AndiCandie thank you for this!!! I have a mouth full of baby teeth and I'm 27 years old. I want to get new teeth badly but cannot afford it. Do you know if the price will be less going this route???
Everyone I know who have veneers, tell me nothing but nightmares about them. All of them were done by reputable dentists. Veneers are purely esthetic. No one needs them.
Having veneers is a vanity thing ,like afro american women having straight hair or breat implants etc. Totally not needed and for shallow minded people.
Veneers or crowns? There's people who have been going to places like Turkey and getting "veneers" (which are actually crowns) - they're the people you see who have their teeth turned into those scary pegs.
Yeah that's true most dentists also take a specialty which often takes them over 8 years of school, 4 for the bachelors 4 for dental school plus however long the specialty takes.
@@spartangamers7783 Good point, dentists do have a much shorter residency period compared to doctors. I guess when they said medical training I was just thinking schooling.
No they don't. This is a stretch. Dentists have foundational medicine training of a typical med student as their first years of school are identical to MD students. They have specialized dentistry training. They most definitely don't have as much general medical training as an internal medicine or emergency medicine physician.
Bro I work at spectrum and yesterday a customer came through to switch his phone to spectrum and he said his gf got her nursing license at a school where everything is just given to you answers to quizzes , tests , final exams etc. so basically you can cheat your way into being a nurse. Lowkey that shit is fucked.
My guy, I just finished my contract of working for two years as a chemistry lab instructor for nursing students. I have *horror* stories about this upcoming generation 💀
That is why we have boards you have to pass to get credited in the medical field. Good luck cheating on those. The testing areas are extremely strict, I had to take out my earrings. They were studs. Also most exams have like 5 different tests, so it's random on which one you may have to take. One may be all about meds or all about a certain type of care, another may be a mix of everything.
Just wanted to clarify the first 20 second of the video, dental crowns require preparing the teeth to "nubs" while veneers only require reduction of the surface of the tooth that is visible when you smile. Way more conservative then a crown. Your videos are an instant watch whenever they pop up on my feed!
Or worse, the veneer cracks and allows bacteria to attack the tooth underneath that is already vulnerable because it has been improperly prepared. If a small crack happens behind a veneer, you would probably have no idea it was there until your tooth began to hurt like hell. By then, it would be too late and the tooth would likely have to be pulled.
Happened when i was a child but it was a molar. that was normal because children lose their baby teeth. i just wouldn't be in this situation though. That's like having surgery from Peter griffin.
I’ve had to talk several of my friends out of going to one of these dudes. We are notorious for this type of shit here in Atlanta though. Scamming is literally embedded into the city’s culture. You can’t go a week without a random dude at a gas station asking about who you bank with💀
Cost me around 2700$ all around. Had to get a root canal first, then they filed my tooth to a nub, put the porcelain tooth they measured and had specifically made for my previous tooth indents, and then basically glued it to my tooth nub and filed that down to fit my specific jaw shape. Anyone who goes somewhere and they get this done in a few hours is an idiot and deserves the pain and future dental treatment
What Americans should do is, check some reliable dentist from Europe or Australia, fly there, have them done and fly back. Flying across the world and living in hotels for extended periods of time is still cheaper than US healthcare.
You can't even get a job as a nail tech or hair dresser without at least like 6 months training and you want someone doing your teeth with 2 days training? The hell?
I’m a drug counselor who has been dealing with an abscess in my mouth for two years every time I go to the dentist or call medical to ask for someone to actually help me with this procedure I’m told it’s still going to be out of pocket. Literally my left side of my face swells up to the size of a baseball looks like I got beat up and it randomly happens. When it does I still show up to work I just wear a face mask and hope no one notices. A year ago I was told it’s just a matter of time that this infection kills me but the price they gave was 18k I literally walked out and told them I’d rather die than pay for a new car in my mouth. Year later still dealing with the same symptoms even though I swallowed my pride and went back to the same dentist I’m still stuck not being able to get the actual surgery. First time writing this down and understanding what I’m going through and it’s irritating that is Americans can pay billions in ad for other countries but free healthcare is out of the question.
Hey friend, this might not be super feasible for you depending on your situation, but a somewhat cheaper solution may be for you to get a passport, come to Canada and I know in my province we have emergency dentistry that is available for less than $3000 to foreigners. For less than $5000 just getting your passport and travelling to Canada could save your life. A tooth being pulled and a round of antibiotics in Canada even without coverage here will cost you about $750- I know because I just did it without insurance. Please consider making a trip to Canada for this infection before it kills you. I dealt with an abscess for a year because I was scared and when I finally went in and they said even without insurance it was only about $500 to surgically extracted the tooth and treat the infection I cried so hard. Sending you my best wishes, if you have any questions about it I’m happy to help as much as I can.
This is why I contacted my old orthodontist to get my permanent retainers fixed and replace my night guard. There’s a lot of shady looking dentists and orthodontists in my area. My parents spent too much money on braces and I sat through too many appointments to have my teeth messed up by a scammer.
As an Australian I have never gotten lots of dental done without detailed diagnostics. So to book in veneers without a consultation or diagnostic is crazy
She needs to contact the credit card company directly. I've done that when vendors don't come through with product and then refuse to answer their phone or emails.
Ugh, this makes me think of all the permanent makeup aestheticians who think they're tattoo artists because some beauty schools are now selling 'tattoo school' single day courses under the table. Atozy, this is a FUN one to look into if you're ever interested. As an actual licensed tattoo artist, I would like to inform these people that no, you aren't. One 12 hour class on 'tiny tattoos' being sold under the table by a beauty school does not give you the right to maim people for life. Our educations and our techniques are WILDLY different, our machines are different, our ink is different, our needles are different and our entire artistic background... is different. EVERYTHING is different. God, I fucking hate frauds like this.
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i mean it is just like doing body work on a car.. i could prob learn how to do it just buy watching a video and do it on myself for free with the right tools
a tooth infection can lead to brain disease. I'll trust that dentist to know what needs to be done, those 'techs' not so much
Heart attacks too
Well, that would be death, to be honest, unfortunately. If the wrong tooth is abcessed for too long, the infection could travel to the brain which would likely kill the patient.
My friend had a tooth infection, he ignored, and it went to his brain. They had to emergency fly him to Charlotte to do brain surgery. Now he's mentally handicapped from the damage done.
Correct. Infection in the mouth can travel and affect the brain and heart. It's why we have to give certain patients antibiotics before doing even a simple cleaning. How do these techs know if that person needs premedication prior to service? And who is licensed to prescribe such medication? They are playing Russian roulette with these folks.
@@lizthedisjointedzebra692 Heck. If ANY tooth is abscessed for too long the infection can travel to the brain or heart. That's when prescribing antibiotics and draining the abscess comes into play. These techs are playing with folks lives.
A 2 day course to grind people’s teeth down and alter them PERMANENTLY is SCARY!!!
With unsterilized tools. They don't have autoclaves to properly sterilize the tools that are going from mouth to mouth. Someone is going to contract HIV, hep C, etc etc
Screwing up their teeth should be the least of their worries!
Hell, I am an Expanded Functions Dental Assistant, with an actual degree, and certification in placing restorations, and even I am not legally allowed to prep(drill), only a licensed dentist is allowed to, either a DMD or DDS. This is just absolutely appalling.
I don’t know whether to feel sorry for the suckers who fall for this obvious scam or not. If something is too good to be true…
@@annenelson5656 I NEVER feel sorry for people who get scammed. Not hard to be careful/responsible.
What's scary is there's enough people dumb enough to find dentists on tiktok to support this scam.
My wife runs a dental practice. They get one or two customers a WEEK coming in to have remedial work done to fix poorly fitted veneers. Some of the damage is long term and, worst of all, most of them had decent teeth in the first place and didn’t need veneers.
Why do they need when literally they can just brace their teeth or replace the crown to a license dentist or orthodontist
@@GHP15300 because they watched a tiktok and thought they could do something that people took years to learn
lol, if you want a bright smile, just don't wash your teeth for years and when your teeth are fucked, put them all out and take a dentale plate but don't play with your real teeth by putting something on them that will never last
@@guillaumebartys4437huh?
Almost no one NEEDS veneers, it’s a vanity thing
I think the problem is there are a lot of people who genuinely don't understand that Dentists are a type of legitimate medical doctor, they just see them as like a type of cleaner; so they don't understand that what they're doing when trying to become a "veneer tech" is just them learning how to commit real medical malpractice.
Even hygienist have to go to school
You gotta be a special kind of dumb to not understand that dentists are doctors.
People just won’t do basic research, we’ve got super computers in our hands. It doesn’t take more than a few minutes to know they’re not legitimate
These are the same people that will fly to a foreign country or sit on someone's living room for BBLs.
Just watched another RUclips video, That’s wild some lady just got arrested for being a fake orthodontist/dentist. She deff got licensed by these guys.
*TikTok:* "It's just your teeth. No big deal treating them." *Medicine:* "An infection in your teeth can go all the way up to your brain."
Veneers are not a strong as natural teeth so will crack,chip and break just by eating with them.Go ahead and get them but start getting used to a liquid diet now.
Tooth infection can also cause heart problems
@neilbradley5011 I have a few that were put in almost 10 years ago...thankfully, no issues at all. My dentist helped me accomplish all of my dental goals, and I'm grateful for it.
Dentistry was the first medical practice early humans were able to use. That's how important your teeth are to your health
An infection anywhere in your body can go to your brain lmao why people so dumb
You paid for a flight, hotel, and $2000 but couldn’t afford proper dental care? Man just go to a damn Dentist. And who uses cash app for “medical” services?
Have you been to the dentist in the US in a while. It’s 2k a tooth here these places offer full sets for pretty close to that (10 teeth)
@@dancingwithtiktokytYou only get one set of teeth. $2000 per tooth isn't that crazy, they are something you have for life and are worth taking good care of.
@@nickpavia9021and as we see in this video you can literally die if done wrong.
@@nickpavia9021 its not even for life lol
@@nickpavia9021 Yes this is obcious for those of us with common sense, but the comment was explaining why having money for the flight plus the procedure doesn't necessarily mean they have enough for it to be done by a licensed dentist given the huge price difference. Desperation can lead ppl to make dumb decisions like that too.
As a dentist, I find this incredibly reckless, dangerous, and shocking to hear that this is happening. Thank you for helping raise awareness about this issue so we can protect individuals from this atrocity.
Do they actually grind down the teeth for veneers?
@@autygris1
I surely hope they don’t dare touch a hand piece to someone’s tooth.
In most cases, we (dentists) do prep the teeth minimally for veneers. The extent of the preparation is ideally only in the outer enamel layer of the teeth; for an ideal preparation we are removing less than a millimeter of enamel. The cements and bonding processes that we use are able to bond durably and predictably to the remaining enamel, which has been strategically and safely reduced in thickness using reduction guides and specialized burrs. Minimal preparations also allow for future replacement of veneers; no dental treatment lasts a lifetime.
We run into problems when a tooth is prepped more aggressively and the underlying dentin layer is exposed for treatment planned veneers. Clinical evidence shows that premature complications may arise when teeth are prepared into dentin for veneers. Whether due to a clinicians overzealous technique, lack of proper continuing educational training, or in cases where we are trying to over-improve the appearance of tooth position that would be better suited by clear aligner therapy first (followed by veneers if the patient doesn’t like the shape/shade of their teeth), early failure can occur. These less than ideal conditions can result in veneers that at the very least, fail prematurely. More severe complications involving tooth pulp vitality issues and/or periodontal issues are not common, but can happen. Attempting to be heroic in dentistry can go hand-in-hand with compromised situations, especially at the patient’s expense and well being.
No prep veneers, on the other hand, can leave the patient with less than ideal esthetics and function. In some cases there could be a need for a no-prep veneer (e.g. congenitally thin enamel or thin enamel as a result of excessive/prolonged acidic conditions in the mouth). Such patients should also be informed that they will likely need to be fitted for either minimally prepped veneers where possible or restorations that provide full coverage, i.e., a crown, in the future.
Just watched another RUclips video, That’s wild some lady just got arrested for being a fake orthodontist/dentist. She deff got licensed by these guys.
@@autygris1You don't grind them down to pegs like they do in Turkey. Those things you see on social media are terribly prepped teeth. It's normally much more conservative than that.
Do dentists really need to charge as much as they do?
"Illegal dentist scam" is a perfect one sentence horror story.
when I used to watch animated horror stories online, I saw one about a girl who went to another country for dental work and the guy working on her teeth was hitting on her. she turned him down as best as she could and he ended up holding her hostage there, saying he wasn’t going to finish her teeth. even if the story wasn’t real, it’s made me super nervous about seeing anybody for dental work, much less some dude in his own home after a two day course.
I don't understand how someone could be so stupid to follow through with a procedure performed by one of these charlatans. Hurray I spelled charlatan right the first time. I usually get that word wrong. Have a nice day!
And I'm watching this after getting my appointment setup to fix my teeth and I have extreme anxiety when it comes to the dentist and this isn't helping lol
@@TypeHoeNegative That seems super tame compared to all the real examples of dentists that pull out a bunch of teeth for no reason when only one is needed like the one in Florida that beat and choked children as he kept extracting teeth.
To be licensed as a barber in my state you need to complete a 1,500 long program at a state-approved barber school. These people are grinding down teeth after watching someone speak for 2 days.
After watching RUclips videos of actual dentist doing this heck prolly not
I wouldn't want you as my barber.
@@shlankbank I'm not licensed, so you shouldn't want me for your barber.
And it's not even two full days so really they got like 16-20 hours of scam training🤦🏾♀️😂
@@shlankbankOkay?
I tag the GBI and the American Dental Association on all these veneer tech posts as soon as I see them. Take them all to jail!
I’ve seen multiple dentist post about it saying it’s illegal
@maryjane4432 yeah it would fall under being illegal since they aren't licensed, and are doing what would be considered Surgery.
I went to a low income clinic and had to get root canals done ( what that lady was saying the one guy whose teeth were near the gums needed. They pull out the tooth ( which means veins and such in the tooth) and replace them with fakes) obviously that would fall under surgery and the clinic informed me that I would have to go elsewhere since they didn't have the equipment to do such procedures. Right before I was going to seek elsewhere they got the equipment needed and were then able to proceed. In the end since they were public and not private it was costing too much in both time and money so I just got the rest done in Mexico since there was a dentist my parents had always gone to there lol.
The takeaway is dentistry falls under multiple categories and any such operation on teeth like that to my understanding would count as surgery. Like the one dentist stated at that point it's also about managing the customers health since you are performing a surgery. They aren't licensed to perform a surgery nor do they have insurance to cover themselves ( which I am sure would require the license) in the case of an emergency which also makes their business illegal.
Thank you for your time and help in reporting those scammers. You are literally saving someone.
@OP youre a Hero i rarely get on tiktok or else id do it too👏🏻👏🏻
And here I thought people doing lash extensions with no license was bad 😮
it's like my dad always said "if you're gonna spend more then $500 on a product, don't half-ass it. go to a reputable or a professional, spend the money." buy once, cry once...
Vanity on the cheap man. Champagne taste on boxed wine budgets. 🤷♂️
Was just thinking that as the cost to repair them was on the screen there
But.....they wear scrubs....
Only real doctors wear scrubs!!🤣
That is good advice
@@ronintje7647 Hospital housekeepers wear scrubs too 😂
The lack of affordability of US healthcare has nothing to do with people seeking cosmetic dentistry. Insurance doesn't cover veneers or other cosmetic procedures generally.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Health care is an entirely separate issue. Even in the EU healthcare wouldn’t usually cover cosmetic surgeries
I think it's sad that if your teeth fall out that doesn't count as a medical emergency which it should be. Everyone needs teeth 😔
If enough falls out it usually does. Had a friend that his dentist said once he loses 5 more teeth the insurance will have to cover it 😂 😭@@Angelonwheels24
I mean you can also get really good dental insurance for about $20 dollars a month.
@@Angelonwheels24 In what situation would your teeth fall out without warning? It's usually years of neglect, drug use, or trauma that causes such things. If it was trauma related you probably have much bigger things to worry about. Associated pain would be managed if you sought emergency care, but losing your teeth isn't life threatening on its own.
Imagine having your dentist slide into your DM's... ahhh what a time to be alive.
I mean in some cases it could still be professional, as a dentist just quickly checking up on a patient or vice versa if the dentist was unable to be reached at their office or the customer is trying to find the best time to head in if said dentist works in an office with multiple others and you want to be sure to get a certain dentist lol.
But I get what you mean lol.
They are trying to get paid to be in your mouth, and not be paid to be in your mouth 😉
Just general conversation done on instagram should already be a red flag.
the future is way less cool than what we were promised but the truth is maybe we didn't deserve it lmaooo
Somewhere in the hood of Atlanta there's a few gangsters with a stolen dentist setup practicing dental work on one another.
Facts
😂😂😂 that's just so funny though 😂🤣
And doing ass injections too. Can get a combo deal.
"Aight T-dog, open wide for m-"
"Ayo pause bruh"
"Ayo gingevitis ain't a joke, cuh"
@@JDydgithats something that west coast dudes say not Atlanta.
My dad used to work as a dentist who performed, "all-on-four" dental implant procedures to replace entire upper and lower jaws of teeth. The entire procedure cost around $40,000 to replace all teeth vs $4000-$6000 per dental implant to replace single teeth. The procedure costs as much as a new car, but includes coordinating care between general dentists, periodontists (dentists specializing in oral plastic// reconstructive gum // bone surgery) or oral maxillofacial surgeons, radiological studies including CT scans to create a drill guide to exactly place implants, follow up care, diagnostic exams, and the fact that the supplies have an extremely high overhead price. My dad is likely rolling in his grave over this blatant dental malpractice.
I read this as ON ALL FOURS dental implants
@@Abtastix i did as well
She said $2k for a "Valentine's Day Special." Come on now. People should know better than this. This is terrifying.
What? You dont go to 2 dollar Tuesday at your doctors office for all your surgeries? You’re just wasting money
Right. Like it's one thing if you're very broke and need dental work, but it's another when you're trying to save money on a dental procedure. I don't want a discount on my surgery unless it's some kind of grant.
She is so lucky that she didn't end up getting her teeth done. So lucky.
@@namelessgrace6319 Yeah. I'm sure she's like "Damn. I lucked out after all."
But people don’t, in the early 2000s it was fake butt implants and injections, in the 2010s it was fake Botox/lip injections, and now it veneers and plastic surgery.
In most states you gotta complete courses and pass state exams to work on someone's FINGERNAILS.
The idea that you can just take an online court to work on people's teeth is sheer madness.
I was in a hospital and needed my nails trimmed. None of the nurses could do it as they were not licenced for it. I had to contact my provider and they had to send a nurse that had an additional cert/licence to not only cut nails but also clean up the calluses for estheticia treatment
This is exactly why people are ignoring the law. They wrongly believe that dentistry is being over regulated like nails and hair cutting and therefore they fall for this garbage.
@@somenygaard although obviously not as important as, say a legit dentist or doctor's certification, nail and hair techs still need to know how to safely preform their duties safely, valid certification is just a way to prove you know what ur doing
@@EndoftheBeginning17 so youre saying that if i went to nail school, i could THEORETICALLY get a job as a nurse clipping nails? Thats more pay for the same degree 😍
@nostalgicumbry3279 you'd probably need some form of nursing license or training or such, on top of the nail training and certification, to y'know, be a nurse
Glad real dentists are calling them out. This is ridiculous abuse of people's trust.
lol, we commented on these scammers around dental groups on facebook all the time but we also didnt know how to bring law enforcement into it. Even the state board apparently didnt care.
When you see an advertised course with the words 'Liability Waiver' included that should probably be the biggest red flag ever. And I doubt that 'Waiver' would stand up in court when these so-called 'techs' are answering for gross negligence.
That one chick thinks by having people sign a waiver that it will absolve her from responsibility even though they're illegally practicing dentistry. They're just fooling themselves!
@@GrandmaJoJo-gd6yh They are absolutely fooling themselves because a waiver won't protect you if a court finds you've acted negligently in a way that has harmed a person. But my question is, why would someone need to sign a 'Liability Waiver' to attend a course? Answer - because it's not an accredited course and is based on an illegal presumption, that presumption being the illegal practice of dentistry in that particular State.
The only way I could see it stand up in court ( and that would still be a big battle to win depending on how they word their stuff) is if they had an actual licensed dentist in the room as they were teaching their course. They would also need to point out their printed certificates mean nothing lol.
@@Lady1974Mthat and if you saw the footage ( think it was the first one Atozy showed) it appears they were using the class to practice on ( on hand experience portion).
@@TheCommanderTaco I doubt a real dentist has been anywhere near these 'Tech Trainers'. Not an ethical dentist at least.
Practicing on each other in class...ugh! That gives me the horrors. So in essence the $5000 class fee is really just to get veneers put on under the guise of 'practical learning'.
this is so predatory for the people that seek dental work and cant afford it
Though a good chunk of the stories that were shared in this video could afford it. That Dallas lady could have went to Mexico and saved so much more money lol.
Plus at the end of the day from what I can tell Veneers truly don't solve the root of the problem.
I would argue they are more preying on people's insecurities.
@@TheCommanderTaco What? How would you know what they can afford? They are quite expensive,. Porcelain ones can be close to 3k per tooth, depending where you are even composite can easily be 10k+ for a full set
@@TheCommanderTacomedical tourism to another country is a whole other can of worms and is dangerous too.
@MrBeetsGaming did you see how much they spent on traveling costs alone lol.
@-xxMelissaxx- if you don't know what you are doing yes I agree. I was just stating going to the border ( Progresso) could potentially be alot cheaper if they are truly looking for a cheaper option. Obviously taking that route the place you go to won't have any emergency medical insurance ( a big reason dentist in Mexico are alot cheaper for the Dallas lady) and last time I went almost every other step was a person asking if I need a dentist lol.
The fact people go on tiktok and see people do stuff like this and say "oh! Ima trust this person on tiktok!" Is mind blowing
Getting help from tiktok is already a red flag, but when you have to communicate through instagram, that should be a major red flag.
Well at least the diploma I obtained through Twitter is totally legit
The scammers are scum, but then again a fool and their money are easily parted. You'd have to ignore a Chinese military parade of red flags before you even get to the point of paying these people.
People have no common sense or brain power.
@@helvete983a lack of insight on how a real dentist should operate plays a big part. Yeah, we can call these people stupid for doing this but you can't know what you've never been taught
Im so happy tik tok is getting banned its straight garbage
Oh boy i smell a bunch of lawsuits coming. Holy yikes on bikes
😂
If so, Atozy will probably cover those too.
And it'll be glorious.
Come on now, no one is getting anything from a lawsuit. Only recourse here is throw them in jail.
and? i bet when everything is settled NONE of them have any money, at least official.
As horrendous as this situation is, nobody winning a lawsuit. It's almost impossible to collect any compensation through a civil court anyway. These scammers don't have malpractice insurance like real a DDS. So unfortunately the customer/victim is on their own.
As an adult, going to someone with a 2 day certificate over a licensed dentist with at least a decade long medical degree is natural selection at its finest.
That's the thing, people don't know they're 2-day dental tech.
@@peanutsarecheap1997if you were looking for a cosmetic surgeon and randomly found one on Instagram for WAAAYY cheaper, would you blindly trust they know what they’re doing or would you do your due diligence to research their credentials and work before putting your life at risk?
Going to a veneer tech they randomly found on SM when licensed dentists and orthodontists can be found on google according to region is ignorance at best and generally stupid as fuck. And some of these veneer techs don’t even hide the fact they got 2 days worth of training and still get clients.
@@peanutsarecheap1997 The price tags and TikTok should be a red flag ALONE
@@peanutsarecheap1997 This is also a textbook case of 'What you don't know can hurt you', except it absolutely will hurt you and cost you so much more money.
I have a friend who got a heart infection from regular dental work and it did a lot of damage, he had to retire at 35 and his heart will never fully heal. These people are going to kill somebody.
Right. I know someone who had heart failure from an infected oral abcess. Almost died.
Everyone who took that injection, and got myocarditis... Suffer the exact same malady that you just described
The one rule and only rule you should follow when doing procedures! Don’t go to a TikToker for anything that involves your body or health!!
This is exactly what happens. I can’t believe people fall for this after that surgeon TikTok lady got prison time and stripped of her license.
I don't understand people even buying food off of tiktokers 😂
@@theintern7472 specially after pink sauce and the pickle lady 😅
I can't believe they fall for it after pink sauce happened 😂
Moral of the story is, never use TikTok as a place to find _any_ kind of service. Doesn't matter if it's dentistry or surgery or tattoos or pink sauces or cakes. Just keep it local! At least then if you get scammed, you don't have to fly halfway across the country for it.
@@lauriechan1426exactly 😂
I worked at a dentistry office. Dental veneers are custom-made shells that fit over the -front- surfaces (buccal, sometimes mesial and distal) of your teeth. They do not need to shave down the tooth to a nub. If you go to a dentist where they say they have to do that, they are scamming you. Shaving the teeth down, that procedure is like odontoplasty, enameloplasty and/or occlusal equilibration. That is not veneers. An implant is when they remove the tooth, put in a screw where the tooth was and place a custom new tooth on top of it.
Honestly, if you want a cheaper solution but want nice white teeth, do dental bonding. A LOT cheaper and when they break, just replace them. If you take care of your bonding, they can last over 10 years. Basically, the dentist is just putting composite(your choice of color) over the front of your teeth. You already get composite when you get a filling. It's safe and non-invasive.
I have them on my front teeth finally need to get them replaced after like 8 years. Cost like 250 bucks.
I need a bunch of dental work done (was very bad about brushing my teeth as a kid, ate a lot of candy, drank soda, etc...), if I went to someone and they told that they got their degree from a "TikTok Class" I'd be out of there so fast.
If you don't have dental insurance or the money, I know how expensive dental work is, go to one of your local hospitals that have a dental school, everything is overseen by licensed dentists. Just a suggestion
@@GrandmaJoJo-gd6yhI was coming to type this! Even local churches offer help and have some dentists that work with them. In md mission of mercy has a mobile bus that goes around to help people. Health department is a good place for resources so is social services
Are you near a college with a dental program? That is a good way to get a significant discount, I would check any dental programs in your area, they all have clinics. Even for us EFDAs, we had a few patients from the clinic at our college to do FMXs and coronal polishing on.
Ikr. I also have the same issue. A lot of small cavities, and I have had them since i was a teen (24 now). I really want to get it fixed, but obviously, dental work is very expensive. Even so, I can't imagine going to to a random person who is not licensed to work on such an important part of the body to just play around with my teeth. That's not really gonna fix my problem, just give me more problems. Hopefully, we can both get the dental treatment we need soon. The fact that my oral health is not good has always bothered me. I can't afford it even with good insurance
No thank you. I recently spent 5 grand on an actual oral surgeon to have my teeth removed because they were dangerous to my health, but I'd rather that than risk these nightmares for less
I spent 5 grand on braces to widen the arch span of my teeth cuz they were too narrow and small for my mouth and were causing me migraines and tmj nerve and jaw pain. Worth it. Couldn’t fix one baby tooth that stubbornly wouldn’t straighten, but am pain free and teeth look great 😬 the money us with it when its good dentists/ orthodontics
Man, I'm 43 years old but that sounds like exactly what I need.@@mtshyna
$60,000 for implant supported dentures. My teeth were a health hazard to me.
"Nothing like drinking Rose while learning how to work on people's teeth" I laughed harder than I should've because it's really disturbing
I'm an EFDA, and I took an entire year of courses to learn how to place resin restorations, in addition to other tasks. It's no joke, you have to KNOW dental anatomy in order to replicate it. And that poor guy at 12:35 needs to sue. It is possible that his teeth could be salvageable, but he would at LEAST need build ups before crowns, if not multiple endo procedures. That right there could kill him. The rampant decay is STILL THERE under the resin, if he ends up abcessed on the wrong tooth for too long, the infection could reach his brain. Not to mention the almost 100% likelihood of developing periodontal disease, which is linked to heart disease. That clip was downright terrifying.
I know a girl who has sisters that opened a beauty salon and they do fillers, eyebrows and eyelashes as well as body sculpting procedures, etc. and they have “vaneer techs” there and now Im looking back at it like ummm I feel like I should report them because I had no idea until now thats not even a real thing..
You should report them before someone gets a deadly infection. If I knew who they were, I'd report them myself
You should absolutely report them because if they seriously harm someone it will be your friend's sisters' business that bears the cost of any legal consequences because the harm occurred on their premises. I would seriously question how qualified those girls are to do fillers and other procedures as well because those also require adequate training and accreditation.
They have to have a dr on site for fillers! Everyone should have a certificate from a cosmology school.
REPORT IT!!! Someone can have an infection and it could travel up to their brain and kill them. Also you need to eat in order to live so why would you mess with your teeth.
@@GrandmaJoJo-gd6yh I have to find the name of their salon she posts on her snapchat story still promoting it so next time she does Ill take note of it. I had no idea until now that youtubers are making us aware of it honestly.
Totally different scam situation, I got scammed by Penn Foster when I was 19 and pregnant and a CNA and needed to make a step into a better career. I was young and stupid and trusted the whole “nationally accredited school” BS. I paid $900 for their pharmacy tech online course, passed all their tests, got certified, and of course despite getting a few interviews nobody would hire me as soon as they asked where I got my education. It was humiliating and I had to go back to being a nursing assistant in an Alzheimer’s home after having my son. This was during the recession too. My husband lost his high paying job right after our son was born (his company owner was embezzling and defrauding the navy with their boats, it was a nightmare. They fired the higher paid workers first to save money before they were busted 😢) he had a job the next day at a tire place but at minimum wage. I will always warn young impressionable people, do not let those online schools take advantage of you. They should be illegal. I know this is different from this situation but I couldn’t resist calling one scam out while seeing another
I can't believe the number of people who will pay a couple month's salary for life altering procedures from a TikTok doc, without at least googling "is this a scam?"
Stupidity runs in humanity since the dawn of time. Don't expect that to change any time soon.
These gotta be the people you hear about that don’t have a inner monologue like how do you not think this thru
@user-xr7ci8tf3e But veneers are purely cosmetic. The systematic issues regarding the cost of needed dental care is one thing, but this is equivalent of getting a BBL in a motel room. Scammers should be 100% arrested but these people played stupid games not doing any proper research and won stupid prizes. Everyone makes mistakes, they still deserve legal justice, but we can acknowledge their fault in this was being extremely negligent to save money
A fool and their money are easily seperated
@squibbelsmcjohnson ignorant
It's like getting a heart transplant from shein or something
While they were blindfolded
Best comment I've seen in a while 😂😂😂
😂 best analogy
Shein did a pretty good job only cost 50 dollars yall just hating
As a dental assistant please go to a certified and trained dentist. Teeth are no joke, especially when it is infected. A certified dentist will actually treat your teeth, not a fake one.
If you want someone to stop their illegal business,call the IRS. Iknow they aren’t paying taxes.
Do most scams dissolves when irs gets involved? 😂😂
@@Sergote12If they can't run fast enough.
Holy crap you mean I didn't have to go to school for 4 years, have 10,000+ hours of coursework and clinical experience, and pay over $300,000? Crazy, it's almost like these veneer techs couldn't possibly have anywhere close to the amount of knowledge they need in order to do these procedures.
Source: I am a general dentist
It is a shame that dental care is so unaffordable for the vast majority of people in the US, I think that this is a major driving factor that even has a lot of people considering something as insane as what's in this video, as an option in the first place.
I agree that the cost of dental care is prohibitive to a large portion of the population in the US and it is why people seek out services such as this. I cant blame the patients seeking out an affordable alternative, and I absolutely cant blame the patients not understanding the severe lack of knowledge these techs have. It's not the patients field of expertise, how could I haha.
However, what I can't wrap my mind around is the way this felony activity is broadly displayed online, it is atrocious how legal action has not been taken. Legitimately, every time these techs prepare(that's what the drilling is called) a tooth its a felony. Each state has a strict code that outlines what duties each position in the dental field can perform. Veneer techs are NOT an actual thing, and for them to provide any services dictated to only be performed by a D.D.S. or D.M.D. is highly illegal.
Even though i hate going to the dentist i respect them so much for what they do for my health
@@dieselbaby They spend years learning it isnt going to be cheap.
Also the insurance in case something goes wrong which you know these people dont have
The way veneers are put in is a horrifying thing, and it blows my mind that anybody would do this. Sometimes, I see people with them off, and it looks like a horror movie.
like i feel like having a few put on teeth that are broken and chipped badly, but shaving down healthy teeth?! come on man
@@uhaveexpired4255 exactly!
As an actual dentist, if they really are only doing composite veneers that doesn’t actually require “grinding down” and prepping teeth. But it does require a lot more knowledge to execute properly than I imagine you could learn from an online course. This is like getting a gold grill made by some dude on Facebook marketplace.
The fact they aren’t insured either because they don’t have licensing to get the insurance needed should be a major red flag for people. There’s a reason we require licensing and insurance for professional jobs that can hurt people if the provider messes up.
“I don’t know if it was your tools!” Sweetheart they don’t know either. 2 days of classes!?
8:26 he was sending that woman her money back thinking she was going to book another appointment!😂 The moment he heard her say “you won’t hear from me again” he said “NAHHHHHH”😂
I don't understand why these people aren't arrested already
Probably law agencies just waiting to build a case on them by collecting video evidence on Tik-Tok.
All part of the system.
likely just due to 1) lack of reports and/or 2) they are in the process but it takes time and no real legal business would share the information before a solution is found. once we get more lawsuits and legal complaints itll snowball from there
I mean... If you choose to go to a TikTok dentist and pay a lot of money without thinking twice.
Then I got a hard time feeling empathy.
Lol facts
Empathy or sympathy?
@@imdeadinside100neither bruh
@@imdeadinside100both
Exactly! None of them did any kind of research on something called “veneer tech” and that it takes two days to get that fake certificate. They just went on ahead and paid the deposit, airline tickets, and hotel, not to mention, signed a consent form w/o reading it, thinking that are getting a good deal from a “veneer tech.” I don’t feel sorry for any of them. They don’t even hold themselves accountable for going to a two day training certificate “veneer tech” in which they blindly signed a consent form because they wanted the job done cheaply and right away. Make it make sense. 🤦🏾♀️
People in Vegas have been getting arrested for faking being a dentist. It's crazy.
If you think you can be a dentist in 2 days you are not smart enough to be a dentist.
I had a 2 day course about grinding and welding steel.
These Veneer techs are doing the same, just on smaller and less harder things.
How hard can it be?
"sarcasm off"
Glad that one woman mentioned Endocarditis, these "tecks" are gonna kills someone via that. I have to take a pre-med before every dental exam and cleaning due too a heart condition, I had a pastor whose dad died of Endocarditis from a basic tooth cleaning.
There is a reason why dentists are licensed.
That shot is no joke. You can even get that from eating probiotics following an oral surgery. And its not a super rare occurrence, not alot of dental practices mention that to patients, which they should. I learned about it from a family member nearly dying following a root canal. At some probiotics yogurt after it. Got that and nearly died cu doctors couldnt figure it out until they opened him up and saw the damage and asked his surgical history and connected the dots.
That lady said “mixed breed.” I hope she never receives her money back for that comment.
Long time viewer and first time poster here. As a 2nd year dental student, I'm so glad you brought this to problem to light. I was just talking to one of my classmates this past week about this exact problem. We go through 4 years rigorous didactic and hands on training, 2 days is a joke. I understand that going to the dentist is not cheap, but this isn't the way to go about it. If you have access to a dental school in your area (please) I suggest you try to go there first. They usually offer procedures at discounted rate (just be prepared for longer appointment times due to oversight from faculty.) There are so many things that could go wrong with this "simple procedure." It's sad to see so many people are getting hurt by these people. I hope these criminals are brought to justice. Again, thank you for bringing this issue to light and for all of your hard work in making your content.
I feel like making a fake veneer tech tiktok page and then when people show up to get them done I would just sit them down and explain to them all the things that can go horribly wrong by letting someone unqualified and untrained play in their mouth for 2k, and then point them to the nearest proper dentist.
Chris Hansen of veneers
Doing God's work
I would LOVE to see a dentist walk in there, sit through the schtick, and then quiz them on dental knowledge as soon as I finished eating the free lunch.
800 on flight and hotel 2k for someone to work on your teeth, makes zero sense. The type of person who gets tattooed by the cheapest hourly rate
if you notice this almost exclusively a bl ack problem. elective dental work thats not needed, picked him based on tick toc, poor use of money, unable to see obvious red flags checks all the boxes. What's dummer is she's in Texas could have gone to Mexico and get the whole thing done for half the cost if not more.
For someone who is UNLICENSED to work on your teeth 🤯
I got a terrible tooth infection. It didn’t hurt so I never got it checked. Well turns out it deteriorated my heart valve. (I should have gotten it checked) well 2 months and 4 strokes later. I came out alive. Right side paralyzed from head to toe. Tons of speech therapy and physical therapy. This is stupid and dangerous asf! My life was on a thin line! Cannot believe they’re doing this.
Thankful that you’re still with us!
Did you know you had a tooth infection before it wrecked your health? Sorry if that seems mean. I really want to know, because I want to make sure I don't have anything going on with my teeth without my notice
"Oh no, I went to a weirdo because he's doing my teeth cheaper, now my mouth is falling off!" *surprised Pikachu face
I almost died from a tooth infection about a year back.. went from a fit 145 pounds all the way down to 113 lbs. My teeth are effed up. I can’t afford real veneers so I understand why a “ veneer tech “ could sound appealing. Do it the real way, the safe way, one step at a time🙏
Lol I literally had to do more training at McDonald's for the grill. But you can get a whole new grill from a drunk dude in a sketchy hotel room with less training. Wtf 😂
My Paediatric Workplace First Aid course was 8 hours a day for an entire week to complete… and done by a legal authorised body.
2 days? Hilarious.
“Awesome! That sounds like a great deal! Absolutely not! That is sarcasm.”
🤣🤣🤣🤣
In the UK lots of people fly to Turkey, get them done cheap, come back, have complications and infections, have to be treated on the NHS hospital as an emergency, taxpayer picks up the bill. Then they have to spend £10,000+ to private dentists here to get them fixed. It's false economy, don't do it!
I was planning on going to turkey myself to get mine done. Now I’m confused. I’m glad I came across this. Are the ones in turkey real dentist or scammers. Please help
About 15 years ago my dad was working in India and decided to get his teeth done because it was cheaper than having them done here in the US. When he came back home I was in shock, he looked like he had swapped teeth with a goat. They were horrible and he’s had nothing but problems since.
@idrissasidibe9607 don't go to to turkey
Folk who want cosmetic stuff shouldn't have to expect the NHS to fork out for it since tis not a medical thing. Plus £60 for fillings and such is not that bad. Tis only if ye need new teeth and everything than ye looking at the third band which is £200~+
I literally had to have open heart surgery for this exact reason. The college of dentistry in my province said that pre meds were unnecessary and did more harm than good, and within a month, myself and 3 others in Ontario got endocarditis. Not fun.
if youre finding your doctors on tiktok and instagram, you need to reevaluate lol
Right! I do follow a few actual doctors but I don’t run out and do whatever they say
Practising dentistry without a license! It's a crime.
Companies don’t care one bit about you or your family. They say what they say, to get you to work hard. The minute you question things and speak out you’re done for.
I had to train three, 8 hour days to learn how to schedule appointments on our hospital software.
MEDITECH or Epic?
And that's just for scheduling! Insane thinking from people these days
@@annieZOK Epic, they lock your account until you finish it.
@@johnnyf3894 Yeah, I can make mistakes too and it's not going to be life or death. I can easily fix any mistake I make. Unlike these temu dentists, they crack a tooth, it gets infected, and you get bacteria in your brain.
@@johnnyf3894 yeah, and if they break a tooth, it can get infected and they can die. I can't kill anyone by scheduling them with the wrong doctor or at the wrong time. I can easily go back and fix whatever I did wrong.
Don’t veneers have to be replaced every 5-10 years? For anyone under the age of 50-60 that’s a horrendous idea…
Not if you take care of them. My mom has had veneers for 16 years.
I think its 10 - 15 years, but no matter, its not good
I've had mine for 17 years and going strong. They are on top of my teeth. A crown requires grinding of the tooth. Have 2 is those 2.
No. They last much longer then that. Assuming you do the regular care for them and yearly check ups. I had my tooth cap for 25+ years before they fell off on their own. Veneers are suppose to much better than doing a cap since you are “replacing” the tooth and isn’t molded to be glued on your existing tooth like a cap does. Given the glue of my caps have been on since I was kid and me close to hitting my 40s, I say mine did their job.
No, veneers will last 20-30 years with modern materials and care. Realistically a lifetime if you are simply not neglectful and go to a dentist for regular checkups.
Teeth by Teesha... I can't 🤣
I had gastric bypass done in 2021. Between the nutrient deficiency and the sickness I kept having, I now have teeth cracking (eating soft foods too) and falling out. I’m not someone who has a lot of money tho I am working extra jobs to save for dental implants. I have done every bit of research to find out how I can get help because honestly I’m so embarrassed of my teeth and won’t even smile in public because I look like a crackhead. Had I not seen and heard about what these “veneer techs” were doing, I feel like I absolutely would have fallen for this scam. Not out of being dumb etc but out of sheer desperation. I’m not sure if anyone reading this has had similar issues but it really affects your mental health. I’m happy to see Atozy covering this to make sure people know not to do this. You’re forever ruining your teeth and that’s alot of money you most likely wouldn’t get a penny of back. Bright side? I used to weigh 367lbs and as of today I’m down to 135lbs. 💜💪
Check your local dental schools. It will be dental students doing the procedures but of course they will be supervised by dentists. Also your insurance should cover the dental care because it's a side effect from your weight loss procedure.
Taiwan is a good place for getting them. Cash talks there and they are actually Dentists. I've met people who have got Implants there. I spent 9k for 2 of them 13 years ago! I wish I had checked out options
@@Michael9-23-15 I might have to do extra extra work for my savings to go there. I heard Dubai does good dental work too.
@@AndiCandieunfortunately nope dental insurance doesn’t cover that because it’s considered “cosmetic “
As far as the OP I had weight loss surgery as well about 10 years ago so I totally understand what your going thru.
@AndiCandie thank you for this!!! I have a mouth full of baby teeth and I'm 27 years old. I want to get new teeth badly but cannot afford it. Do you know if the price will be less going this route???
Everyone I know who have veneers, tell me nothing but nightmares about them. All of them were done by reputable dentists. Veneers are purely esthetic. No one needs them.
Having veneers is a vanity thing ,like afro american women having straight hair or breat implants etc. Totally not needed and for shallow minded people.
Isn’t veneers just crowding your teeth? Not really vanity when you have accident where you damage, chip, or lose a few teeth.
Veneers or crowns?
There's people who have been going to places like Turkey and getting "veneers" (which are actually crowns) - they're the people you see who have their teeth turned into those scary pegs.
I’m not a doctor, I’m a doctor tech😂
Fun fact your dentist has more medical training than your average doctor in most cases.
Yeah that's true most dentists also take a specialty which often takes them over 8 years of school, 4 for the bachelors 4 for dental school plus however long the specialty takes.
I think you are forgetting about the time in residency that doctors go through, even once they have an MD.
@@spartangamers7783 Good point, dentists do have a much shorter residency period compared to doctors. I guess when they said medical training I was just thinking schooling.
No they don't. This is a stretch. Dentists have foundational medicine training of a typical med student as their first years of school are identical to MD students. They have specialized dentistry training. They most definitely don't have as much general medical training as an internal medicine or emergency medicine physician.
lmfao.
Bro I work at spectrum and yesterday a customer came through to switch his phone to spectrum and he said his gf got her nursing license at a school where everything is just given to you answers to quizzes , tests , final exams etc. so basically you can cheat your way into being a nurse. Lowkey that shit is fucked.
Based on the horror stories I’ve heard from nurses odd are she won’t last a week in a real hospital
My guy, I just finished my contract of working for two years as a chemistry lab instructor for nursing students. I have *horror* stories about this upcoming generation 💀
That is why we have boards you have to pass to get credited in the medical field. Good luck cheating on those. The testing areas are extremely strict, I had to take out my earrings. They were studs. Also most exams have like 5 different tests, so it's random on which one you may have to take. One may be all about meds or all about a certain type of care, another may be a mix of everything.
@@sarmeddangerous6462 do tell bro.!
11:40 The guy is not even wearing a mask or facial protection when he's showing off that he's doing someone's teeth. Obvious gross red flag.
Just wanted to clarify the first 20 second of the video, dental crowns require preparing the teeth to "nubs" while veneers only require reduction of the surface of the tooth that is visible when you smile. Way more conservative then a crown. Your videos are an instant watch whenever they pop up on my feed!
nah imagine biting into something and your left canine falls out
Or worse, the veneer cracks and allows bacteria to attack the tooth underneath that is already vulnerable because it has been improperly prepared. If a small crack happens behind a veneer, you would probably have no idea it was there until your tooth began to hurt like hell. By then, it would be too late and the tooth would likely have to be pulled.
I saw a girl bite a pear and ALL of her veneers got stuck in it, leaving just the filed down nubs
@@MonolithicCyanTsunamiwtf…
Happened when i was a child but it was a molar. that was normal because children lose their baby teeth. i just wouldn't be in this situation though. That's like having surgery from Peter griffin.
What you described at 0:14 is the standard procedure for crowns not veneers.
Who the hell gets in a plane to go have dental work done?
Smart people who fly out of the US. Go to Mexico or Costa Rica for dental work.
@@OneOut1just saw a video about this and I’m like 🤔🤔🤔
I've been thinking about the so called "stolen equipment". I bet it was repossessed.
8:18 the most atlanta shii ever😂
I’ve had to talk several of my friends out of going to one of these dudes. We are notorious for this type of shit here in Atlanta though. Scamming is literally embedded into the city’s culture. You can’t go a week without a random dude at a gas station asking about who you bank with💀
Mixed breeds? Tf is this Twilight?
people really need to stop using the word "breed" in any context when referring to humans.
people really need to stop using the word "breed" in any context when referring to humans.
That man is not seeing heaven I swear.
😂😂😂
Colorism at its finest
Bruh Atlanta just can't seem to get right. It's been on a slow downward spiral since the 90s and it's not getting any better
Man I thought it was sketchy enough getting living room tattoos yet ya'll are out here getting living room teeth?! 😂 Hahaha
Cost me around 2700$ all around. Had to get a root canal first, then they filed my tooth to a nub, put the porcelain tooth they measured and had specifically made for my previous tooth indents, and then basically glued it to my tooth nub and filed that down to fit my specific jaw shape. Anyone who goes somewhere and they get this done in a few hours is an idiot and deserves the pain and future dental treatment
That's a crown, not veneer
@@foolishlyfoolhardy6004 they're both fake teeth that covers up teeth. A crown covers the whole tooth, a veneer covers it partially. Come on bro
Kind of fucked up. I don't think victims deserve it. Yeah they're ignorant, but they aren't the predators preying on people ignorance and desperation
@@imnotcrazyforeal2706still, bad choices, ignorance and impatience doesn't mean they DESERVE the pain
What Americans should do is, check some reliable dentist from Europe or Australia, fly there, have them done and fly back. Flying across the world and living in hotels for extended periods of time is still cheaper than US healthcare.
People don’t realize that an infection in your mouth can spread
Bingo
You can't even get a job as a nail tech or hair dresser without at least like 6 months training and you want someone doing your teeth with 2 days training? The hell?
Dude wasn’t even wearing a mask while grinding someone’s teeth.
How could anyone possibly think it was safe to do this??
Because the average IQ is 100, and half of the population is underneath that.
These people simply just don’t think
I’m a drug counselor who has been dealing with an abscess in my mouth for two years every time I go to the dentist or call medical to ask for someone to actually help me with this procedure I’m told it’s still going to be out of pocket. Literally my left side of my face swells up to the size of a baseball looks like I got beat up and it randomly happens. When it does I still show up to work I just wear a face mask and hope no one notices. A year ago I was told it’s just a matter of time that this infection kills me but the price they gave was 18k I literally walked out and told them I’d rather die than pay for a new car in my mouth. Year later still dealing with the same symptoms even though I swallowed my pride and went back to the same dentist I’m still stuck not being able to get the actual surgery.
First time writing this down and understanding what I’m going through and it’s irritating that is Americans can pay billions in ad for other countries but free healthcare is out of the question.
Why not just pull the tooth and be done right?
@@jooosAREevil my thoughts also
Hey friend, this might not be super feasible for you depending on your situation, but a somewhat cheaper solution may be for you to get a passport, come to Canada and I know in my province we have emergency dentistry that is available for less than $3000 to foreigners. For less than $5000 just getting your passport and travelling to Canada could save your life. A tooth being pulled and a round of antibiotics in Canada even without coverage here will cost you about $750- I know because I just did it without insurance. Please consider making a trip to Canada for this infection before it kills you.
I dealt with an abscess for a year because I was scared and when I finally went in and they said even without insurance it was only about $500 to surgically extracted the tooth and treat the infection I cried so hard. Sending you my best wishes, if you have any questions about it I’m happy to help as much as I can.
Just go to the hospital . I had the same thing and they gave me a strong shot of antibiotics
Antibiotics is only a temporary fix. As long as the tooth isn't fixed(or pulled) the infection will just come back
Having bad dental hygiene can also lead to heart problems
This is why I contacted my old orthodontist to get my permanent retainers fixed and replace my night guard. There’s a lot of shady looking dentists and orthodontists in my area. My parents spent too much money on braces and I sat through too many appointments to have my teeth messed up by a scammer.
With my insurance, i pay $245 per crown. And i dont pay for insurance. My employer does. Union electrician.
I pay zero for dental through my union, they cover 3 implants and 4 crowns. I love my Union!
As an Australian I have never gotten lots of dental done without detailed diagnostics. So to book in veneers without a consultation or diagnostic is crazy
She needs to contact the credit card company directly. I've done that when vendors don't come through with product and then refuse to answer their phone or emails.
I smell a giant ass lawsuit from multiple people.
Ugh, this makes me think of all the permanent makeup aestheticians who think they're tattoo artists because some beauty schools are now selling 'tattoo school' single day courses under the table. Atozy, this is a FUN one to look into if you're ever interested.
As an actual licensed tattoo artist, I would like to inform these people that no, you aren't. One 12 hour class on 'tiny tattoos' being sold under the table by a beauty school does not give you the right to maim people for life. Our educations and our techniques are WILDLY different, our machines are different, our ink is different, our needles are different and our entire artistic background... is different. EVERYTHING is different.
God, I fucking hate frauds like this.
interesting! is this being documented on tiktok or other social medias?
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Omg people's lives are being endangered & ruined. Who knew this was going to be a thing? Thank you for reporting on this 🙏🏽💫
This is horrifying. This is horror movie worthy.