AVPM: *makes jokes about Dumbledore loving Zac Efron* Black Friday: *makes jokes about how America is overrun with capitalism and failure in the government*
@@samablue38 ive watched spies multiple times and it literally took me like, 2/3 go throughs AND behind the scenes content in order for me to believe that it was indeed not a joke lol
Jaime and Jeff’s “he’s my little BOYYYfriendddd” line is the epitome of the chaos delivered by the two most chaotic cast members and its truly the scariest part of this show
Caitlin Moriarty Oh, I don’t know. I agree that Jeff and Jamie are chaotic as hell, _but can we talk about Joey?_ Curt was WILD in this musical too, but the others have the overall I’ll-rip-your-face-off-and-wear-it energy
Can I just say I think James in this show is SO underrated?? Like his Obama bit and the cop voice, Xander, and his ensemble body language are all hysterical. Not to mention he’s responsible for all that amazing choreography! I really hope he does more shows!
I fucking lost it at his Obama impression. Soooooo funny. Sooooooo spot on. And he's a really good singer. Why has he never had a role in one of their musicals before now? He has choreographed for Starkid many times already
@@redacted5078 owen is dark and villainy; agreed but we have also seen his kinda soft side saying "love" and stuff.. bandit king is a comedic villain like prince achmed.. but wiley is just.. ahhh supermegafoxySEXYvillain
Jamie did a really good job at playing a scary and creepy character too with the old pervy guy. she really made me feel uncomfortable and it shows how much range she has as an actress to have literally played a gabriella from hsm knockoff in the exact same musical
I honestly dont know what Robert's real voice is just from the musicals. I know with the livestreams he speaks in his real voice, but I didn't watch any of them considering I'm fairly new in ths fandom (the first musical was TGWDLM)
Also, small theater nerd thing, I absolutely love how Ethans little plaid shirt around his waist is really just for a quick change for another character
Corey's role was finally his big moment he DESERVED because he straight had me in awe the whole show i am in LOVE with him and id let wiggly tear out my guts for him to get another song in the next show
@@ML0694 well the next show is "Nerdy Prudes Must Die" Grace Chasity is a nerdy prude Grace Chastity is nice to Bill at church Bill is played by Corey LEADING ROLE?!?!?!
@@shelbybrasfield996 ok but by Jeff Standards? And tbh the others are all at least as chaotic if not more in that song. I mean, Curt, Jon and Jaime were just mental in the best way 😂
Gary Goldstein (attorney at law) when feral. Did anyone else strip down and look like they've lived in the woods for years? He tied a tie around his head and you think curt went hard?
Because General John McNamara is the order a man in a hurry is the chaos they are two sides of the same coin in constant war and flux a true duality of man
I know I'm practically wasted by now but the whole time I watched bf my mind just went JON JON JON and I kept searching for him in every scene I need to be stopped i-
No one else noticed this but Corey got a bit more flexible since 'the guy who didn't like musicals'. He was struggling to do certain dances but now he's doing so much better.
this was the first musical that genuinely got me scared, people suddenly going crazy always scare me for some reason, and the "my lovely girl" part was genuinely terrifying
I could literally watch this musical forever, i watched it with a digital ticket, and honestly loved it, but not NEAR as much as i love it now that its full youtube production. The songs are so memorable like i get parts stuck in my head that i sing at work. The girl who played Lex was fabulous! I could tell the songs had been written for mariah, and im sure she was nervous but i feel like she did her character justice! That attitude she gave Lex and her giving the singing her all really made her shine! So glad Corey got a big number as well! This is definitely in my top three Starkid musicals! NOW IM READY FOR WORKIN BOYS
it's either the audience really didn't react, or it was one of the days without audience that they filmed it edit: nevermind, they lifted linda up and the audience cheered lol
I remember seeing in a behind the scenes that they reshot some stuff with no audience there so (hopefully) it was just that they reshot that bit without an audience. Imo there are a lot of moments in Black Friday where I expected a reaction and there wasn't any (probably/hopefully because nobody was actually there to react), that one especially!
I can I just say that if you really think about the scene in the movie theatre (Deck the Halls and Take me Back) is just really weird. Like you have this really emotional and moving song encompassed by one of the most absurd movie concepts I have ever seen. Like I love it but it is no doubt strange
Joey's Wilbur Cross is probably the best version of Stephen King's Randall Flagg/Walter O'Dim to be put to film and the fact that people aren't making the connection is KILLING ME!!!
The first time I watched Back Friday I didn’t love it. I was shocked by how dark it was compared to the previous shows. But I knew that as soon as I watched it again I’d love it. And I did. And I do. And I will.
Can’t wait for next year! Starkid shall Reign!!!!!! The Best Cult to ever exist! Linda: Gerard it is not a cult, it is a religion. That I started! Sorry Religion.... I the best religion to exist.
Okay but for serious, why is everybody sleeping on the moment Hannah sees "Ethan". That whole fucking monologue of his is so good and so bad at the same time.
You really have to look, but Joey at 4:05, 4:06 -ish, and such, the little movements he does (like when he says little lady or linda is the most important person in hatchetfield) make me feel so fucking scared. Like, that's the most tiniest detail but it drives me crazy. Not to mention the little smirks and grins like wtf it scares me. He is so good as a villain.
I like to think that’s actually Ethan playing Kris Kringle and that’s why he’s embarrassed about buying the tickets
Edit: I got pinned :')
Cristina Mariposa SOMEONE SHARES MY IDEA
This is canon now
PLEASE BE CANON
OMG I HAD THE SAME THOUGHT
And perhaps he and Lex were in the same drama group and that's how they met and why he wants to take her to California to become an actress
The fact that Jeff is the least chaotic is a different experience
If he’s the LEAST chaotic character that’s really saying something here.
if you consider only mcnamara... what about man in a hurry?
Abhi Prabakar have you SEEN Curt and jon's characters?????
@@renidere ofcourse yeah.. im just saying he(man in a hurry) is not the least chaotic..
least chaotic character in black friday might be tim
But...
*C H A O S R E I G N S*
* then Jeff proceeds to raise his hands and stomp around in fury*
Starkid 2009: Harry Potter as a musical
Starkid now: what if tickle me Elmo was cthulu
Aryssa Mansfield you have just spoken the truth
AVPM: *makes jokes about Dumbledore loving Zac Efron*
Black Friday: *makes jokes about how America is overrun with capitalism and failure in the government*
@@theflickchick9850 Not the content we originally wanted, but the content we grew to need
@@theflickchick9850 They went you didn't cry during AVPM now you will cry so many times you can't watch Black Friday properly
@@BallerNachos excuse me, who didn't cry during AVPM? That ending is heartbreaking, Voldy has me in tears everytime
I love that when Jon first says "audits" Linda turns and smugly mouths "audits" to the people behind her
Gets me every time!
I never noticed that, that's amazing!
LMAO
OH GOD I THOUGHT HE WAS SAYING HORNETS?!?!??!!?!
XD i thought she was saying 'goddess' and audits makes more sense
They really let Curt Mega go feral in this one and I for one am grateful for the gift
For real tho
Same he is so dedicated
For a moment I tried to figure out whether you were referring to the actor or the Spies character... I’m dumb
@@samablue38 ive watched spies multiple times and it literally took me like, 2/3 go throughs AND behind the scenes content in order for me to believe that it was indeed not a joke lol
Jaime and Jeff’s “he’s my little BOYYYfriendddd” line is the epitome of the chaos delivered by the two most chaotic cast members and its truly the scariest part of this show
Caitlin Moriarty Oh, I don’t know. I agree that Jeff and Jamie are chaotic as hell, _but can we talk about Joey?_
Curt was WILD in this musical too, but the others have the overall I’ll-rip-your-face-off-and-wear-it energy
I think we can all agree this is the Starkids at their most chaotic moments.
CHAOS REIGNSSSS
BLACK FRIDAY: Has multiple complex, multi-faceted characters with emotionally driven narratives
ME AND THE ENTIRE FANDOM: *GARY.*
omg best comment and so true
Big gaz is a lad tho
Audits in your *wAzOO*
RavenclawsCantDraw My friends favourite character is literally Gerald. No one else 😂
I’m in a Tumblr chat called Gary Gold-STANs
Two moments I will never be over:
Jeff yelling CHAOS REIGNS
And James Tolbert as Obama
@Hoo Hoo I just realized he was Obama, but I've been too young to watch any of the debates...
EDIT: I went back and watched this
oh my holy bomb squad
Man in A Hurry is the best character
Anushka Bodepudi I was gonna like this comment but then I saw it was at 69 likes
Give me that FUCKEN DOLL I'm in a hurry
CHAOS REIGNS!!!!
*Ethan
We’ve all been Man in A Hurry at some stage in our life.
Can I just say I think James in this show is SO underrated?? Like his Obama bit and the cop voice, Xander, and his ensemble body language are all hysterical. Not to mention he’s responsible for all that amazing choreography! I really hope he does more shows!
Aerial Woods YES!!
TRUE
Also his voice is so nice, it could melt butter 😍😍
James being apart of the dance squad™️ gives me life
I fucking lost it at his Obama impression.
Soooooo funny. Sooooooo spot on.
And he's a really good singer. Why has he never had a role in one of their musicals before now? He has choreographed for Starkid many times already
JAMES TOLBERT SAID RIGHTS. no one in particular just rights.
JOEY AS uncle willey is so scary like bro i cant even i hate it so much,, but i love it he does such a good job playing a villain.
*(Spies are forever has entered the chat)*
*(TTO has entered the chat)*
@@redacted5078 owen is dark and villainy; agreed but we have also seen his kinda soft side saying "love" and stuff.. bandit king is a comedic villain like prince achmed.. but wiley is just.. ahhh supermegafoxySEXYvillain
Jamie did a really good job at playing a scary and creepy character too with the old pervy guy. she really made me feel uncomfortable and it shows how much range she has as an actress to have literally played a gabriella from hsm knockoff in the exact same musical
Yeah, he was giving off serious Hannibal vibes and I loved it.
Okay but can we appreciate that Robert is a baritone and he hit those notes in Deck the halls
Also the pure vibrato is just amazing
jeff blim really be like "everyone has my range" as a songwriter and victims of that are true heroes for still hitting those notes
I honestly dont know what Robert's real voice is just from the musicals. I know with the livestreams he speaks in his real voice, but I didn't watch any of them considering I'm fairly new in ths fandom (the first musical was TGWDLM)
Tess Aartsen he’s Australian
*kas :* no cap! califorMIA was WAY too low for Angela :( she did the best job she could but it wasn’t great
Robert's vocal range is incredible. If you listen to his song "Wizard Duel", he was hitting ultimate high notes before ever meeting Jeff.
I feel so bad for Gerald, but at the same time Linda is a absolute queen so .......
It's his fault for getting himself banned from all of the cinnabons
CEENabon
STOP CRYING GERALD I WASNT TALKING ABOUT YOU
I think we all know she’s absolutely not being manipulated by Wiggly, he’s just giving her what she wants and she’s taking it.
UNLESS I GET WHAT I shit it’s Gerald
Ahhh yes my favourite boy band. Man in a hurry, homeless guy, Gary Goldstein (attorney) and curt mega
no no, even better... Curt Mega as Papa Ed... the guy who rescued Peanuts! You can see Peanuts in the final song.
@@TiaMat99 WAIT REALLY?!?
@@Caroline28483 yes, confirmed on twitter!
@@Caroline28483 yeah! He has him in his hoodie pocket and then he's holding him in the final countdown
@@millyvanilly8016 So unrelated but I love your hair in your profile pic
the way joey says "3 dollars" and his face just.. ahhh just 2 seconds of acting but perfection
like... how was he even going to get the doll at 49,95? Why did he wait in line all night with just three dollars in his pocket?
Yes! 😂
*but we are iNTIMATE*
Priceless
I screamed. I love them 😔
And the immediate "oh fuck" look on his face the second he realizes what he just said.
paul : 👁👄👁
@@KaijaSchmauss that look is a mood and I don't like it
Watching this at 2x speed because I'm in a hurry.
Ooooo yummy
this is my favorite comment ever
2x is to much for me so I decided for 1.25x
How was that experience
YOU GUYS NEED TO STOP😭😭😭💀💀💀💀
"l-i-e-r bAbE"
"we GET it ethan you're a goOD sPElLer
hannah * aggressively pretends to smoke weed*
Jordan Eats Cheese *”THAT BETTER BE FUCKIN FLOSS”*
@@sambrooks8461 "let's go I need a cigarette"
Corey, Lauren, Joey, and the girl who played Hannah did so phenomenal in their respective roles...Joey as a true villain is what I needed.
I think her name is Kendall and I completely agree
@@cantinasmile yeah, she's an amazing actress and singer! she has a promising career, i can tell :)
kendall nicole yakshe, she's 14 ;-;
They gave the villain roles to the people who deserved them
Also, small theater nerd thing, I absolutely love how Ethans little plaid shirt around his waist is really just for a quick change for another character
Nah, I think Ethan is just a flannel bisexual
I agree with both of you
Honestly when I saw him the first time i thought it was a full-on skirt and was SO excited. I still love both of those reasons though
He and lex are 100% both bicons
*Robert* is a bi-con
(he came out as bi earlier this year :))
Sometimes I feel like you can’t fully appreciate a show until you watch these types of videos.
Same!
Honestly Mr. Wiley's vibes really are like McDoon and Owen mashed up together
AlwaysGonnaSing facts
AlwaysGonnaSing someone finally put it into words-
fax
Which show is McDoon from?
@@nikkospelledlikethat8140 trail to oregon!
Corey's role was finally his big moment he DESERVED because he straight had me in awe the whole show i am in LOVE with him and id let wiggly tear out my guts for him to get another song in the next show
@@ML0694 well the next show is "Nerdy Prudes Must Die"
Grace Chasity is a nerdy prude
Grace Chastity is nice to Bill at church
Bill is played by Corey
LEADING ROLE?!?!?!
@@isadorasilva6379 Yeah, he did.
0:15 Paul just staring at Emma with so much love on his face is all i ever needed
Honestly that's probably what everyone would look like if they got to stare at Lauren lopez
I mean Paul staring at Emma with so much love is basically the entirety of the coffee shop scene in tgwdlm
How did Paul and Emma steal the show with about 10 minutes of screen time, I'm weak
Because it's Paul Matthews and Lauren Lopez being iconic. Duh
@@retzrucal I love how this implies that Lauren isn't playing a character in those scenes
@@swirlingsun or they forgot Jon's name
Because Jon and Lauren are perfection
Lmao “mcdoon energy”
Also no one talks about the fact that hannah’s actress is not even fifteen yet
Bro Kendall looks so much older than she is. She is going to go so far!
WHAAAAAT. She is so talented!
Really? She's amazing!
She turned 14 during the musicals run, she was 13 during rehearsals. She's amazing
she's wHAT??!?!! i assumed she was older bc so much media has 20-year-olds playing high schoolers!! that's incredible!!! i love her even more now!!!!!
WHY IS JEFF THE LEAST CHAOTIC CHARACTER IN THIS GOD FORSAKEN MUSICAL
BETTER YET *HOW* IS JEFF THE LEAST CHAOTIC CHARACTER IN THIS GOD FORSAKEN MUSICAL
He literally yells "CHAOS REIGNS", how is that the least chaotic
@@shelbybrasfield996 ok but by Jeff Standards? And tbh the others are all at least as chaotic if not more in that song. I mean, Curt, Jon and Jaime were just mental in the best way 😂
@@shelbybrasfield996 I mean Curt Mega went Feral could be the SUBTITLE to this show to be fair. And i love him for it
Gary Goldstein (attorney at law) when feral. Did anyone else strip down and look like they've lived in the woods for years? He tied a tie around his head and you think curt went hard?
Because General John McNamara is the order a man in a hurry is the chaos they are two sides of the same coin in constant war and flux a true duality of man
2:06 Gonna tell my kids this was Backstreet Boys
Bla Bla Bla Then run to get the milk because I’m in a hurry
my favorite line- "i don't have a drill press, and even if i did, how would it fit into the SUDAN!" dylan's delivery=gold
COREY FINALLY GOT TO SHOW OFF HIS VOICE IN THE MOST LEADING PLAYER-ESQUE WAY AND I AM HERE FOR IT
thank you for appreciating james' death drop like???? i feel like no one is talking about him UGH i love him so much
NO ONE ELSE HAS MENTIONED HIS DEATH DROP
Or his cop bit! I loved him in this, I wanna see more!
Nia from dance moms is quaking she could never
When?
this literally sums up my brain since the premiere
edit: ty for all the love and the heart!
B nice.
You shouldn't have edited XD
"my favourite boyband"
Okay, but like, same.
during joeys first satan monologue with linda i had the “oh no he’s hot” meme in my head
THIS IS SUCH A MOOD
never forget that joey never took that apple back
i’m literally in love with “ doors are open “ like, the style of the song 🤩 kinda reminds me of something that would be in grease 🤷🏼♀️
the ensemble bit sounds like a song from grease, beauty school dropout maybe??
Literally my favorite song in the show!!
GIVE US YOUR __________ MONEY
con_ant THATS THE ONE!! i couldn’t remember the name of it!!
@@con_ant6032 literally thought the exact same!
Idk the theme of this video but I am ENTERTAINED NONETHELESS.
I feel like I got a pretty good sense of the actual plot by watching this
Absolute fucking chaos
Becca Lanning I mean it’s accurate
If 'Santa Clause goes to high school' was a real movie, Kris Kringle would definetly be a Zac Efron role
petition to get a prequel to Black Friday but it's just Linda and Gerald and we find out why he's not to step within a thousand feet of a Cinnabon
curt wingmanning his own wife is truly the hidden gem of this show
I don't know what we did to deserve Jon Matteson but I'm so glad we did it
I have binge watched Black Friday so many times I have lost count and it only came out on Sunday.. 😨
SAME! its one of my fav shows so far after Twisted
Same!!! 👁👄👁
jaime's delivery on "I knew you weren't santa" is so funny
Audits at your wAZOO
For the next musical they shouldn't even give Curt a script, just let him go full out feral on stage with no restrictions
4:37 is just peak
Jamie's "Santaaaaaa" gets me everytime
I appreciate the girl who screams when Corey throws his leg on the banister and when he wiggled his hips 😂 a true Corey stan
2:23 YOU'RE RIGHT AND YOU SHOULD SAY IT
A Person ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY
I love how accurate they got the “bad teen movie” with the bits of Santa goes to high school
6:02 I can't with Jeff's reaction when Joey's character kisses her shoe. 🤣
I never noticed the shoe kissing until this video and I never noticed Jeff being an excited toddler until your comment so thank you 😂
5:16 I love how ridiculously exaggerated Chris’s expressions are. I know that’s the point but still, he looks so nervous.
Amy Yop isnt that robert?
Yeah, just said Chris for convenience cause that’s his name in the show
Amy Yop ohhhh i get it. thanks
I know I'm practically wasted by now but the whole time I watched bf my mind just went JON JON JON and I kept searching for him in every scene I need to be stopped i-
literally SAME
Honestly, after watching Black Friday the first time I’ve been doing that.
Shruthi Lakshmi mhmm
if this ain't ME
My favorite part is 6:02 when Joey kisses Linda’s toe and in the background you can see Jeff excitedly bouncing
Actress for Linda is named Lauren, just to clarify ^^
Robert absolutely killed it as Kris Kringle, please give that man a whole musical
I’m sorry but “do I have to put a leash on you like a dog - or my cousin Oliver” is such an underrated line
the “mcdoon energy” killed me
No one else noticed this but Corey got a bit more flexible since 'the guy who didn't like musicals'. He was struggling to do certain dances but now he's doing so much better.
@peacelovechocolate He was but I'm so glad he got better.
3:25 I love this chaotic Jeff sequence.
Chaos does reign, sir.
I was SCREAMIMG when James did a death drop and no one even made a noise in the audience? I would’ve given him a standing ovation if I was there tbh
When does he do that?
@@twist_ending7545 right around 7:26
this is basically black friday out of context and im here for it hahaha
Even in context, some of this barely makes sense. Lol
i love joey being that elf: ThaaAAts right
2:06 they're the working boys band
Static Dawnbringer they are indeed up to their asses in shit
@@samsingsthings what is this business
@@nosuchthingasgoodcows7003 markets are crashing, im at the edge of my wits!
@@wokeupnew I just can't take it!
@@ayla710 when all I want to dooooo! Is spend the day with GREG-
6:39 Imagine Linda singing to you beautifully and then dylan just yells in your face😂
6:20 is my favorite part in the whole musical it makes me laugh so hard everytime
I DIDNT NOTICE THAT HE WAS WEARING THE TROY BOLTON SHIRT
I was so happy they included Cinnabons for no reason lmao
this was the first musical that genuinely got me scared, people suddenly going crazy always scare me for some reason, and the "my lovely girl" part was genuinely terrifying
1:58 all i can see is man in a hurry mouthing "i'm in a hurry" and every single time i see it i burst into tears why is it so funny
Corey did the most in this musical and I am so damn grateful for it
2:08 best boyband ever
Gotta stan Curt Mega shipping his wife and Dylan Saunders for an entire song
Man In a hurry was never influenced by wiggly he’s just like that
I mean he was also like that in TGWDLM lmao
3:50 YO I just realized Ethan threatens cashier guy the same way Aladdin threatens the bread merchant in Twisted
It’s come full circle
Holy crap, I never noticed Joey's quivering lip (3:45) XD
seeing all these clips out of context makes me realize how chaotic this musical actually was
"do you see him? do you see him? do you see hi-"
"yes, i fuCKING SEE HIM"
iconic
4:46 I was so confused when I first saw this but then I was like, "It's Robert Manion. I don't care and I don't need context"
I could literally watch this musical forever, i watched it with a digital ticket, and honestly loved it, but not NEAR as much as i love it now that its full youtube production. The songs are so memorable like i get parts stuck in my head that i sing at work. The girl who played Lex was fabulous! I could tell the songs had been written for mariah, and im sure she was nervous but i feel like she did her character justice! That attitude she gave Lex and her giving the singing her all really made her shine! So glad Corey got a big number as well! This is definitely in my top three Starkid musicals! NOW IM READY FOR WORKIN BOYS
listen can i just say the lack of audience reaction at the death drop is repulsive
I KNOW
bread roll i fully HOWLED and snapped and the audience couldn’t even hit a low rumble i’m just so disappointed in this community-
it's either the audience really didn't react, or it was one of the days without audience that they filmed it
edit: nevermind, they lifted linda up and the audience cheered lol
I remember seeing in a behind the scenes that they reshot some stuff with no audience there so (hopefully) it was just that they reshot that bit without an audience. Imo there are a lot of moments in Black Friday where I expected a reaction and there wasn't any (probably/hopefully because nobody was actually there to react), that one especially!
THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING ANGELA'S FACIAL EXPRESSIONS AND HER LINE DELIVERY AND BASICALLY EVERYTHING SHE DOES BC SHE'S PERFECT
I can I just say that if you really think about the scene in the movie theatre (Deck the Halls and Take me Back) is just really weird. Like you have this really emotional and moving song encompassed by one of the most absurd movie concepts I have ever seen. Like I love it but it is no doubt strange
Joey's Wilbur Cross is probably the best version of Stephen King's Randall Flagg/Walter O'Dim to be put to film and the fact that people aren't making the connection is KILLING ME!!!
Jaime really got nothing in this musical, not one song for her to show her talents. Her characters where amazing but she has very few lines
It’s almost easy to forget she was there :( I hope the next show she gets another role like Charlotte
Honestly one of my favorite moments is when her “yelling” harmonizes with Jeff at the end of Monsters and Men (Reprise)
Fr her amazing vocal ability was seriously limited with this role :/
“It’s like you’re cutting into a head of lettuce and oh shit a baby”
“I wanted a salad but now I have child”
Paul trying not to laugh while Emma rants about Cabbage Patch Kids is my favorite thing.
0:11 Angela's face here cracks me up every time XD
Curt went completely feral in this and im living for it
The first time I watched Back Friday I didn’t love it. I was shocked by how dark it was compared to the previous shows. But I knew that as soon as I watched it again I’d love it. And I did. And I do. And I will.
Can’t wait for next year! Starkid shall Reign!!!!!! The Best Cult to ever exist!
Linda: Gerard it is not a cult, it is a religion. That I started!
Sorry Religion.... I the best religion to exist.
this show is such a meme and i love it
3:55
No one:
Jon: EeeEEeEEe
I don’t even know the plot for this show yet and I’m so confused but so invested
Black Friday is on yt actually I'll send a link if you want
I will tickle one doll
And one doll..
*Will tickle me*
Why on earth are random zooms in this so funny?
Omg I never noticed "Chaos reigns" at 3:36.
I'm *so* glad you added the 'easy bake oven' bit. Gotta be one of my fave bits.
I want an entire musical of Corey just sing bop doo songs
Okay but for serious, why is everybody sleeping on the moment Hannah sees "Ethan". That whole fucking monologue of his is so good and so bad at the same time.
You really have to look, but Joey at 4:05, 4:06 -ish, and such, the little movements he does (like when he says little lady or linda is the most important person in hatchetfield) make me feel so fucking scared. Like, that's the most tiniest detail but it drives me crazy. Not to mention the little smirks and grins like wtf it scares me. He is so good as a villain.
Loren is actually Narcissa Malfoy in a muggle outfit :)