An intriguing layout with the 2 outer lines having no points. This is clearly a layout for fast running and demonstrates how our hobby can suit each modellers interest. The cat reminded me of my Exeter layout in my shed. I ran out of glue to make part of Red Cow Crossing so I used flour and water paste. Bad mistake as a small mouse was observed eating the crossing but when I came in it scampered down platform 4 and hid in St Davids Tunnel. The down ACE encouraged the mouse to find another hiding place. A frequent ocurrance.
Superelevation adds incredible level of realism for running the trains! I'm just getting back to the hobby after roughly three decades, planning a N scale layout, and superelevation is one of requirements for me.
Superb some modellers in N try and cram in as much as possible but your track plan is perfect easy to maintain for maximum reliable running ,I’ve done shift work for nearly 40 years and it’s nice to have a layout where by you can set the trains running and relax with a cuppa and unwind mind you when you get to my age and had a busy week you nod off especially if you have one of them there comfy chairs 😂😂,looking good all the best ,Mark Ps I’m sorry your 321 isn’t running as it should hope you can get it sorted by the retailer .
Yes I wanted my track plan to be as reliable as possible, wow 40 years you must be tired! My 321 is getting a little better with more running but still problems
@@greatdeltan6556 I am mate hehehe started as a postal cadet in the early eighties then went on the railway 10 years ago at Clapham junction but my health now but I have my railway to run wish I had a garage like yours anyway it’s great new blood is in the hobby or with respect younger blood yourself and Richard at everard junction and Richard at new junction to name a few 😊👍🏻
You have completed 4 main lines and baseboards in the time its taken me to get half a helix on 1 base board. So impressed at your speed and standard. looking forward to watch your layout take shape. Stay safe.
Loving the Tesco train. Shows the benefits of N gauge - Realistic length trains, especially bulk freight. I count 26 wagons. Hard to believe the real thing often has up to 40 wagons behind a single class 66!
Hi Dan, excellent video mate and really good progress. Really like the super elevation and watching those HST’s run round was brilliant. Looking forward to more, cheers Dan, John
Hi Dan - looking good mate ! Bent track pins - tell me about it ! I found the best way was to use fine nosed pliers to hold the pin and using your thumb and finger as a guide to push them in. Won't work all the time but does definitely reduce the number that bend. Great running shots. Cheers Euan
That's how I've been putting them in aha, I don't use a hammer, but the pins are so thin and plywodd is rather difficuilt to push into they just bend if I'm slightly off square!
Firstly thank you for the points and track. It was amazing to meet you and see this amazing layout. Hope to catch you soon and pick your brain on all things n gauge.
dont forget your 10' gap between pairs of running rails to allow clearance for your OHLE masts and signals in the centre (where the 4 tracks come together)
Looking good, love the 86 in intercity livery, can understand why you bought it, also the east midlands hst is very handsome. Probably a good idea to use code 80 streamline as 55 which I use for the scenic section is a bit flakey and difficult to work with. Fully understand the bent pins, My little track hammer usually isnt too heavy for them but get that issue as well. Love the S curves and sweeping curves to me is what n is all about. Interesting you have a tesco train as I am building up one as well on megafret wagons. Cheers
Amazes me how fast you get stuff done and it’s not like you cut corners either. Judging by the standard of your previous layouts, this one is going to be epic! I was wondering why you’ve decided not to have a fiddle yard and if there’s any reason why you didn’t use cork under the tracks? Looking forward to the next update already 👍 Cheers, Dave
Still not as fast as I'd like! And several reasons not to fiddle yard this layout, extra expense, extra time, uses up a lot of space which I want to make the most of, and if I wanted a fiddle yard able to fit all of my stock in it would just be huge and I'd have barely any room for scenery! I don't use Cork as the noise doesn't really bother me and the extra effect of a Ballast shoulder doesn't phase me either
@@greatdeltan6556 The layout looks big enough to have a couple of different DMU/EMU running on each of the slow lines too. Every time I see your updates it makes me want to switch from OO to N gauge! 😂
Nice video!, love the simplistic track plan, it will be easy to maintain and also allow for some great running shots. Regarding the track pins, I had the same problem many years ago now I use Peco Setrack pins they are a little thicker and don't bend. Love the HST collection, how many have you got now? have you considered doing the Pullman set when you complete your collection? All the best Tony.
Thank you! I haven't heard of those track pins so in the future will have a look, I think I have 16 HSTs currently with the GWR castle set and Scotrail inter7city on order, I'm only collecting dapol sets so if they do release a pull man set I shall
Really enjoyed the video. Would you recommend flexi track for beginners? Also does it come with fish plates or is that something else id need to get. Thanks very much. I've subbed 👍👍
Hi Dan. Starting off the track laying: Other than following the line of the semicircle, you seem to have started at a random point - not that I know where I would have started! Interesting that you chose not to use any track underlay (cork, foam, etc.). Not sure why you would replace the electrofrog points with insulfrog points - all you needed to do was to replace some of the metal fishplates with nylon ones (?).
I guess I jsur thought about how I wanted my track and where the most convenient place to start from was, I've never bothered with Cork or underlay I don't see the benefits of the extra leg work. I'm not very up on electrofrog wiring so weren't sure if just replacing the Fishplates would still cause a short when loco wheels would complete the circuit between sections of track.
Hey mate, looks great! Just wondering what backscenes you are using as I've been trying to source something like that to depict part of the Stroud Valley (Golden Valley Line) in Gloucestershire.
Proper track spacing between adjacent lines as a pair is 6 feet. With 4 lines you run 6, 10, 6 for 2 bi directional pairs or 10,6,10 for slow up fast up fast down slow down.
Hello Sir, I have very much just enjoyed watching all your videos on this new garage layout and the previous layout in the shed. I have been in N scale for 25 years, and I am learning a lot of new approaches to scenery or scene setup from you, dealing with different challenges in space, budget, but still executing the scene nicely. please take a moment to view my channel videos. I am currently scencing the top deck of a double deck layout. I upload often and I will be here lots to see your videos, as they have been a great resource. -Tyler
At last i got around to subscribing !!!!. Keen to follow you as youu've gone down the Digikeijs /Z21 route which is what I'm about to do. Can i ask wouldn't a pin vice of helped with your track laying ???. I use 9mm plywood and it worked great although i now use Piko track screws for speed. I have a spare East Midlands Buffet coach if you're interested.....Regards
I've always laid trqck the same without doing much research into anything else aha but that'd probably work yes, I got the full hst take but thank you anyhow
Hi mate thinking of doing a dcc layout, do you have every piece of your track wired with droppers. If not how many would do you use on your layout.. brilliant work
The only pieces that aren't wired on my layout are the points, and I've stuck some solder between those and the next piece of track to ensure continuity
An intriguing layout with the 2 outer lines having no points. This is clearly a layout for fast running and demonstrates how our hobby can suit each modellers interest. The cat reminded me of my Exeter layout in my shed. I ran out of glue to make part of Red Cow Crossing so I used flour and water paste. Bad mistake as a small mouse was observed eating the crossing but when I came in it scampered down platform 4 and hid in St Davids Tunnel. The down ACE encouraged the mouse to find another hiding place. A frequent ocurrance.
Yes the 2 outer lines are solely for high speed running, your story regarding the mouse did amuse me
Superelevation adds incredible level of realism for running the trains! I'm just getting back to the hobby after roughly three decades, planning a N scale layout, and superelevation is one of requirements for me.
I very much agree, it can be annoying to see trains speeding round corners looking like they're about to topple over
and cork to help with the drum noise
Superb some modellers in N try and cram in as much as possible but your track plan is perfect easy to maintain for maximum reliable running ,I’ve done shift work for nearly 40 years and it’s nice to have a layout where by you can set the trains running and relax with a cuppa and unwind mind you when you get to my age and had a busy week you nod off especially if you have one of them there comfy chairs 😂😂,looking good all the best ,Mark
Ps I’m sorry your 321 isn’t running as it should hope you can get it sorted by the retailer .
Yes I wanted my track plan to be as reliable as possible, wow 40 years you must be tired! My 321 is getting a little better with more running but still problems
@@greatdeltan6556 I am mate hehehe started as a postal cadet in the early eighties then went on the railway 10 years ago at Clapham junction but my health now but I have my railway to run wish I had a garage like yours anyway it’s great new blood is in the hobby or with respect younger blood yourself and Richard at everard junction and Richard at new junction to name a few 😊👍🏻
I really like the super elevation. Worth the effort, IMO. Very nice.
Thank you, a lot of extra effort but definitely worth it
Super train video 👍👍, nice update 👌🛤👍.
Greetings Gert
Thank you!
Fantastic Daniel, its so good to see trains running again, especially those gorgeous HSTs, that’s become quite a collection.
Thank you! Nearly completed this HST project now
You have completed 4 main lines and baseboards in the time its taken me to get half a helix on 1 base board. So impressed at your speed and standard. looking forward to watch your layout take shape. Stay safe.
I do have a good work rate I guess aha
Loving the Tesco train. Shows the benefits of N gauge - Realistic length trains, especially bulk freight. I count 26 wagons. Hard to believe the real thing often has up to 40 wagons behind a single class 66!
Yes, the main reason I moved to N gauge! Along with full HSTs and Pendolinos
This is looking really good. Love the curves and the size of the trains is very good for watching… Good job done I would say..regards, Chris
Thank you Very muxh
Hi Dan, excellent video mate and really good progress. Really like the super elevation and watching those HST’s run round was brilliant. Looking forward to more, cheers Dan, John
Thank you very mucb
Great Video, Great Information, Great Trains, Great Delton. Many thanks 😊
Cheers!
Lovely Jubbly, I have learned a great deal from your video's, always a great watch, thanks for sharing.
Thank you very much glad this is helpful
Hi Dan - looking good mate ! Bent track pins - tell me about it ! I found the best way was to use fine nosed pliers to hold the pin and using your thumb and finger as a guide to push them in. Won't work all the time but does definitely reduce the number that bend. Great running shots. Cheers Euan
That's how I've been putting them in aha, I don't use a hammer, but the pins are so thin and plywodd is rather difficuilt to push into they just bend if I'm slightly off square!
Firstly thank you for the points and track. It was amazing to meet you and see this amazing layout. Hope to catch you soon and pick your brain on all things n gauge.
No worries, was good to meet another local N gauge modeller
dont forget your 10' gap between pairs of running rails to allow clearance for your OHLE masts and signals in the centre (where the 4 tracks come together)
Looking great mate, all about the boards then backscenes then track. A really good start
Thank you
Looking good, love the 86 in intercity livery, can understand why you bought it, also the east midlands hst is very handsome. Probably a good idea to use code 80 streamline as 55 which I use for the scenic section is a bit flakey and difficult to work with. Fully understand the bent pins, My little track hammer usually isnt too heavy for them but get that issue as well. Love the S curves and sweeping curves to me is what n is all about. Interesting you have a tesco train as I am building up one as well on megafret wagons. Cheers
Yeh the East mids hst is a nice one. I do hate track pins a lot! That tesco train did take me a good while to collect, thank you for the comment :)
Looking good! The East Midlands HST dummy car looks like it needs some attention!
I think there's just a bulky decoder in there so the body doesn't clip on properly, not a great deal of space for decoders in those hsts
Amazes me how fast you get stuff done and it’s not like you cut corners either. Judging by the standard of your previous layouts, this one is going to be epic! I was wondering why you’ve decided not to have a fiddle yard and if there’s any reason why you didn’t use cork under the tracks? Looking forward to the next update already 👍 Cheers, Dave
Still not as fast as I'd like! And several reasons not to fiddle yard this layout, extra expense, extra time, uses up a lot of space which I want to make the most of, and if I wanted a fiddle yard able to fit all of my stock in it would just be huge and I'd have barely any room for scenery! I don't use Cork as the noise doesn't really bother me and the extra effect of a Ballast shoulder doesn't phase me either
@@greatdeltan6556 The layout looks big enough to have a couple of different DMU/EMU running on each of the slow lines too. Every time I see your updates it makes me want to switch from OO to N gauge! 😂
Very impressive layout, subbed.
Thank you!
Nice video!, love the simplistic track plan, it will be easy to maintain and also allow for some great running shots. Regarding the track pins, I had the same problem many years ago now I use Peco Setrack pins they are a little thicker and don't bend. Love the HST collection, how many have you got now? have you considered doing the Pullman set when you complete your collection? All the best Tony.
Thank you! I haven't heard of those track pins so in the future will have a look, I think I have 16 HSTs currently with the GWR castle set and Scotrail inter7city on order, I'm only collecting dapol sets so if they do release a pull man set I shall
Really enjoyed the video. Would you recommend flexi track for beginners? Also does it come with fish plates or is that something else id need to get. Thanks very much. I've subbed 👍👍
I'd recommend set track for beginners as it does come with fishplates
Hi Dan. Starting off the track laying: Other than following the line of the semicircle, you seem to have started at a random point - not that I know where I would have started! Interesting that you chose not to use any track underlay (cork, foam, etc.). Not sure why you would replace the electrofrog points with insulfrog points - all you needed to do was to replace some of the metal fishplates with nylon ones (?).
I guess I jsur thought about how I wanted my track and where the most convenient place to start from was, I've never bothered with Cork or underlay I don't see the benefits of the extra leg work. I'm not very up on electrofrog wiring so weren't sure if just replacing the Fishplates would still cause a short when loco wheels would complete the circuit between sections of track.
Sorry to be a pain again. Do you drill holes in your sleepers to pin down, and do you still put card on outside rail to slant track inwards on bends.
I'm able to push track pins through the sleepers as the pins are very thin, I put some plasticard on the outside of the rails to slant them yes
Hey mate, looks great! Just wondering what backscenes you are using as I've been trying to source something like that to depict part of the Stroud Valley (Golden Valley Line) in Gloucestershire.
These are Gaugemaster OO backscenes, but work quite well with N too
@@greatdeltan6556 ah cool, do you remember what ones they are called by any chance mate? Thanks
1:50 NEM-norm is 27 mm, Peco is 26,5 mm. 1:1 is 4,2-4,5 meter.
Proper track spacing between adjacent lines as a pair is 6 feet. With 4 lines you run 6, 10, 6 for 2 bi directional pairs or 10,6,10 for slow up fast up fast down slow down.
Hello Sir, I have very much just enjoyed watching all your videos on this new garage layout and the previous layout in the shed. I have been in N scale for 25 years, and I am learning a lot of new approaches to scenery or scene setup from you, dealing with different challenges in space, budget, but still executing the scene nicely. please take a moment to view my channel videos. I am currently scencing the top deck of a double deck layout. I upload often and I will be here lots to see your videos, as they have been a great resource. -Tyler
Super
Thank you
At last i got around to subscribing !!!!. Keen to follow you as youu've gone down the Digikeijs /Z21 route which is what I'm about to do. Can i ask wouldn't a pin vice of helped with your track laying ???. I use 9mm plywood and it worked great although i now use Piko track screws for speed. I have a spare East Midlands Buffet coach if you're interested.....Regards
I've always laid trqck the same without doing much research into anything else aha but that'd probably work yes, I got the full hst take but thank you anyhow
No track underlay, why is that?
Are they medium or long points you use?
I've never bothered with underlay, don't see the point in it, and large radius points
Hi mate thinking of doing a dcc layout, do you have every piece of your track wired with droppers. If not how many would do you use on your layout.. brilliant work
The only pieces that aren't wired on my layout are the points, and I've stuck some solder between those and the next piece of track to ensure continuity
thanks for that
Out of curious interest, why do you not use electrofrog points?
What's up with that rear HST powercar?
What is up with it? I didn't notice in the video
I noticed that too, almost looks like 3mm or OO gauge? 🤔
@@greatdeltan6556 it's riding higher than the mk3 coaches on the Midlands set
Cat.
Cat enjoys the trains when not destroying things