So,thats it! Haha,i didnt know 🤔🙄 Can you do more video about useing HE,on the tank? There is red color armor,yelow,and grey i think! When i shot HE on Wt auf TD tier 9 he s got 30 armor on sides,standard b have 116 HE pen,but i cant do more than 150alpha,how?
@@GT-yc5vv Sometimes when you hit a tank, you hit the modules such as gun and tracks. And sometimes the tank your shooting has spaced armour. These will absorb the HE and HEAT shells for the most part and mean that you dont penetrate the tank but instead just get splash damage for HE, for HEAT it will just not pen.
@@leeshackelford7517 no it wouldn't but the t49 has horrible pen so that's why with the obj 704 it has a lot of pen sooooo yeah H.E isn't needed as much unless ya know hitting weak armor and such it's when it's most effective
Just a little gripe, an HE shell doesn't carry shrapnel in it, it's filled with explosive, and when it contacts something, the explosives get set off and the shell casing gets turned into 'shrapnel'. Shrapnel is just a name for the broken bits of high speed, burning hot metal, and whatever else is flung around by the explosion
why doesnt wg even have a totorial about HE and APCR and HEAT Edit: I already know how to use HE but thank you for this totorial im going to sent it to some of my friends that need help
I've saved a couple games shooting under tanks. I had a game where the enemy standard b was capping and hiding behind a rail car and no one was resetting, so I fired an HE under the rail car and did 200 damage resetting the cap. Such a technique seems obvious to us unicums but clearly isn't to most of the playerbase. Great tips
Just started playing like a month ago. Had no idea how HE worked. My assumption was it pens or doesn't like a regular shell but if it pens it does more damage as it explodes inside. I never considered them just having an AOE/Splash damage that works even when not penned. Appreciate this video!
A good video that more need to see. Playing TDs tought me important things about HE and possible applications in other classes. it can save you big time
Man this is apsolutely great, I've been playing wotb from start and know this but now I will just fwd your vid to everybody still strugling with he and wotb physics in general. Thanks a lot for this!
I always thought that shooting the enemy's back is the most effective way to use it, some mechanics will 100% help me in the battle, thanks for the guide!
Excellent technical video explanation!!!! Please keep producing these videos, as these do explain much needed "know how" about tank warfare. Certainly HE shells are very, very usefull. Thanks for such a great explanation !
'have played WoTB a few years and NEVER knew the spread of shrapnel will do damage, (didn't know it works if you hit ground or near exposed weak points) THANK YOU!
I figured this out mostly cus of Training Rooms in the Blockade Gamemode(tier 9-10 on one team,they must cross one/two Bridges or Landmarks in order to shoot and kill the Tier 1-8 Team. The Tuer 1-8 team has to prevent the Tier 9 and 10s from crossing the bridge and kilking them,Tier 1-8 can shoot to kill or just Block the Bridges/Landmarks until the Timer Ends. There are multiple variations of this Mode but that is the basics,usually its done on Castilla or New Bay) because I didn't have any Heavies capable of properly Brawling with the Tier 9s and Tier 10s and I didnt have a Tier 9-10 I used SU-152,TOG2(to block the Bridge),SU-100Y(to help block and shoot the enemies),KV-2,and now Smasher. I remembered from and old World of Lols or something similar Video that HE has Splash damage so I used that to my advantage,and If I didn't feel like using Derp or Blocking the Bridge I'd use a Fast Reloading Tank to try and kill them or Track them
I just started WOT BLITZ a couple weeks ago and to try and catch up, I've watched a few of your videos which I really enjoy. I use a lot of what I learned just from your videos so keep making them and I will watch them. How bout aN auto aim tutorial if you haven't made one already. thanks happy, LET'S GO!
Great content! Great Breakdown, not a lot of fluff or opinions. In the 9 build slots, What is the best use for the increase in Velocity? other than canceling the rate of pen decrease. It seems to make the shots more predictable in my T49 even though it has no effect on the heat. On guns with low velocity and heat shells, is it a waste of time to increase the velocity?...is it better to get the aim time decrease?...This decision always takes me a long time to make. Especially in cases where aim time is already ok and velocity is decent....which option (aim time, velocity) is most pragmatic?
I hear Studzianki theme i like Also, to those planning to hop from Blitz to PC, this is very useful information for you because once you go hulldown, everyone's gonna be lobbing HE at your turret roof and arty will be raining down HE hell.
Knew He would do that in real life but wasn't sure if that was the case in the game. I had never thought of shooting right beside a hidden tank or the upper area for shrapnel damage, good thinking
@@happy-wot-blitz I want to thank you for your content and your passion for the game and for the poeple you are trying to help, you did an outstanding job explaining the use of H E I know I will become a better player as a result, please be safe and healthy considering covid 19 is out there killing poeple, peace
@@happy-wot-blitz I already subscribed about a week and a half ago, most youtubers really don't like to bother much with tanks under tier 7, or if they do they just rush through them because most patrons pay for upper tiers, and most lower tier tank videos are years old, not explaining new buffs or nerfs for tiers 6 or lower because they are chasing that money, but it seems to me that it's the lower tier player's that need the most help to get better, it's pretty funny to me that bushka, littlefinger, and Martin dogger for example all outstanding youtubers, talk about sidescrapping or going hull down, or even spotting mechanics or even knowing the different roles that all of the different tank types should be using, all usually in tier 9 or 10 tanks, but it seems to me we should be learning all of this stuff in tier 5, and to hear them complain about how nuubs are ruining the game at tier 10 and how nuubs are just rushing up to tier 10 before they are actually good enough to be able to compete against the best players in the game but what incentive do they have to stay at tier 5 or 6 when all of the information on the lower tier tanks are years old, with every new update they discuss at length the changes at length to upper tier tanks and not even bother to tell you about the changes to tier 5, pontuflee I love his channel but he was bad about skipping tanks in tiers 6 or lower for example, I usually play in tier 5 or 6 and I have more than 10,000 games, and i believe that I still have a lot to learn before going up to challenging the best players, I still struggle with consistency, I am probably one of the best stuug players in the game, I love the tank so much I permanently enriched it and now I earn more credits more easily than I do in my t 25, panzer v\iv, and my dicker max, and I have more than a thousand games in my dicker max, they talk about how good of a credit earner the Lowe is with it's credit coefficient at 190, but they have no idea about the tier 5 leopard with a credit coefficient at 140 and if you were to permanently enrich it would increase its credit coefficient by 106 %, I am terrible at math but wouldn't that make it's credit coefficient at over 280, it put the Lowe to shame, pontuflee did videos about as I call them home made premium tanks but didn't bother with anything below tier 7, so I am pretty much left on my own to do my own research because the poeple who have been playing for years and have all of most knowledge and experience aren't really helping the poeple who need it the most, they have no knowledge about what I told you about the stuug or the tier 5 leopard because they don't really care about lower tiers, I get that the money in the short term is better making review after review about upper tier tanks, and yet for example I was trying to find information on the tier 5 leopard and bushka's video on I was 3 years old and telling us about how good a gun is that you can't even get on the tank because wargaming removed it 2 and a half years ago, I heard that in update 7.0 that the panzer iv g supposedly received some sort of armor buff and I can't find a single video about it anywhere so I can learn about it, now it's update 7.2 and still nothing and I subscribe to about 14 or 15 different youtubers, it all seems to be mess for us nuubs, and I don't mind being a nuub, we all have to start at tier 1 not 10, in fact I even belong to the nuub_s clan lol, that's why I learned from and enjoyed your video because you actually drew the splash damage circle showing approximately how much of an area the he's frag\splash damage is effective for and how to best utilize it, please do me a couple of favors and please pass on the information about the stuug and the tier 5 leopard for me because I believe that information could be useful for lower tier players, and the second is please have a great day my friend
Another tip for newbies, If you can't pen a enemy tank such as on hull down, or your trying not to expose your tank on a 1v1, try to fire HE at the gun, If you damage it, it damages gun, Either they choose to repair it and waste a kit, or go on with the game with +30-50% dispersion
HE works really well if you can find the Side of the tank,then aim for the tank’s turret,then Fire and it may ammo rack,if you do,you have a 65% chance of making it work
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So,thats it! Haha,i didnt know 🤔🙄
Can you do more video about useing HE,on the tank? There is red color armor,yelow,and grey i think! When i shot HE on Wt auf TD tier 9 he s got 30 armor on sides,standard b have 116 HE pen,but i cant do more than 150alpha,how?
I bet you never knew where 700 subs came from. Also thanks for the tips
Alpha Blue Walf what do u mean?
@@GT-yc5vv Sometimes when you hit a tank, you hit the modules such as gun and tracks. And sometimes the tank your shooting has spaced armour. These will absorb the HE and HEAT shells for the most part and mean that you dont penetrate the tank but instead just get splash damage for HE, for HEAT it will just not pen.
Literally never knew anything about this and how HE worked until now. Yes pls I would like you to do more of this stuff
wu Ian so true!
😂
Are for real or just exaggerating?😂😂
This is how we use to play the isu when tanks first came out.
@@YoungStr I know how to use HE in game, but not how it works, like the shrapnel stiff never knew that stuff.
Yep. I always shoot under heavy tanks with my T49. Reliable 300 damage every time because it has a huge splash radius.
HisRoyalFatness Indeed! Thanks for stopping by Fatness!
hmm noice.
In my 704.....I'd just load up APCR and hit cheeks....or the lower plate.....
So if I use 152mm HE...and hit UNDER the tank, it will do more?
@@leeshackelford7517 no it wouldn't but the t49 has horrible pen so that's why with the obj 704 it has a lot of pen sooooo yeah H.E isn't needed as much unless ya know hitting weak armor and such it's when it's most effective
HRF. I had saluted you in battle yesterday. No salute back :( 😂
Great explanation, it seems obvious for experienced players how to use it, but new players probably don't know how HE works. So hope this helps them.
Yes, I hope it helps ahah :)
noice.
hi hd
IT HELPS AND I JUST GOT A PREMIUM MEDIUM AMERICAN TANK BY DOING 14 BATTLES AND I UNLOCKED HE
@@menelogz3698 the grizzly?
5:11 I did this to a low hp grille camping around a corner and he thought I was hacking
HAHA
Send this Grille 15 player this video 😂
Man that grille: AYE I HAVE BIG GUN SO I USE HE
AY HE KILLED ME WITH HE WITHOUT HITTING BRUHH HACKS
@@ThePolskejsalam E LOL
Bruh, why would you use the grizzly? It has one of the worst reload times for its tier
Just a little gripe, an HE shell doesn't carry shrapnel in it, it's filled with explosive, and when it contacts something, the explosives get set off and the shell casing gets turned into 'shrapnel'. Shrapnel is just a name for the broken bits of high speed, burning hot metal, and whatever else is flung around by the explosion
why doesnt wg even have a totorial about HE and APCR and HEAT
Edit: I already know how to use HE but thank you for this totorial im going to sent it to some of my friends that need help
mrbartmcfergin thanks for the support!!!
Cus wargaming is lazy but it's easy to learn how shell times work WHEN YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH
Cuz it’s obvious
@@Seal12303 the last battle I was in I saw a hetzer firing HE at the front of an M4 sherman
@@mrbartmcfergin thats called a bot
Killed a death star that was hiding behind a building by shooting HE the ground next to it.
Wow.. I never knew about these tips. The other youtubers didn't tell the masses about this and Im s grateful that you are telling us now! Keep it up!
Aakash Pawar thank youuu!
Im getting better and better everyday using you re videous man keep up the good work
I've saved a couple games shooting under tanks. I had a game where the enemy standard b was capping and hiding behind a rail car and no one was resetting, so I fired an HE under the rail car and did 200 damage resetting the cap. Such a technique seems obvious to us unicums but clearly isn't to most of the playerbase. Great tips
Useful for de-capping, killing low hp tank if they behind cover, or just do some damage
Good for TD to obliterate tanks faster ngl
I sub for you....eventhough I know this stuff...your effort is what makes me do it
noice
Wow, never knew this before. Thank you for this tutorial! Kind of surprized you are the only blitz youtuber who has done this. Sub earned!
Thanks man for the HE guide I never able to use HE effectively but now after watching this tutorial I'll use it correctly
Man, thank you. Waited for someone to explain it like this. Keep up the good work !
Thanks for the support bro!
Just started playing like a month ago. Had no idea how HE worked. My assumption was it pens or doesn't like a regular shell but if it pens it does more damage as it explodes inside. I never considered them just having an AOE/Splash damage that works even when not penned. Appreciate this video!
great content mate! Now i know how to use HE in cases where the enemy is low on hp
Thank you, it makes me 'happy'!
I did experiment once with HE close range to a light tank and the track comes of. Thanks for the vid I now have better info how to use HE:)
This tutorial alone is just about as good as the entire old and outdates WOTB tutorial currently!
I sub!
Wowww, you guys motivate me!!!
@@happy-wot-blitz no YOU motivate me!
I will definitely be employing that tactic next battle. Cheers for the information.👍😁
A good video that more need to see. Playing TDs tought me important things about HE and possible applications in other classes. it can save you big time
Really like it that u help players with tutorials like this one, I already knew that but still enjoyed the vid and the backgroundmusic
Glad I could help
Really good explanation! Love it
Man this is apsolutely great, I've been playing wotb from start and know this but now I will just fwd your vid to everybody still strugling with he and wotb physics in general. Thanks a lot for this!
This is way more helpful than any another like tank reviews, more tactics like this PLZ!
Ziqin Zhou only if u sub ahah
Get this man 5k subs he deserves it. I shared this to my friend and now he’s better then me! But he quit later after 7 months.
Nice video mate! It's very helpfull for players like me, You show me how to use he👍 thanks, hope u gonna make more videos like this👍
Thanks for the tips. Never knew about that. Keep up ur amazing work.
Wow, thank you so much!!!
Best explanation ever! Keep making such content :)
Thanksss!
I guess I'm top 1% then. Good job explaining the shrapnel part, found it easy to understand, definitely will help other people out. Ty man!
Nathanael Jackson thanks for the support bro!
@@happy-wot-blitz No problem :)
Nice video . This would be very very helpful for new players nice work. :)
Yes...extremely useful. Please keep making these videos...thank you.
I always thought that shooting the enemy's back is the most effective way to use it, some mechanics will 100% help me in the battle, thanks for the guide!
Excellent information which I was totally unaware of! Thank you! New subscriber
Thanks a lot bro!!!
Thanks for makeing this video i need it :D
yu jin no problem!!! Ahah
Great video!
Thanks Jaroslav!!!
Great info, thanks!
Treadhead Pete no problem bro!
Excellent technical video explanation!!!!
Please keep producing these videos, as these do explain much needed "know how" about tank warfare.
Certainly HE shells are very, very usefull.
Thanks for such a great explanation !
Thanks Happy, This was very informative. Yes more vids like this plz
Was going back an looking at some older video found this an never thought about hitting the ground just beside a tank side scraping, thanks
Hey bro , love the video , it would be very awesome if u culd make a guide on side scraping .
I will don’t worry!
This is very big brain. Wish I knew this sooner... thanks lol
Joshy52 now u know Josh ahah
'have played WoTB a few years and NEVER knew the spread of shrapnel will do damage, (didn't know it works if you hit ground or near exposed weak points)
THANK YOU!
Never knew this you deserve the best
doge gaming754 wow, thank you for the feedback!
Very good tip. I didn't know about the ability to shoot the ground. Makes sense though.
Now u know bro!!!
This video is very useful. Thanks for the HE info, Happy!
Thank God you made a video on HE shells, thanks a lot!
This will help me do battles better thx man
Np!
Finally, someone explained and illustrated the operation of high-explosive shells in an accessible way
I figured this out mostly cus of Training Rooms in the Blockade Gamemode(tier 9-10 on one team,they must cross one/two Bridges or Landmarks in order to shoot and kill the Tier 1-8 Team. The Tuer 1-8 team has to prevent the Tier 9 and 10s from crossing the bridge and kilking them,Tier 1-8 can shoot to kill or just Block the Bridges/Landmarks until the Timer Ends. There are multiple variations of this Mode but that is the basics,usually its done on Castilla or New Bay) because I didn't have any Heavies capable of properly Brawling with the Tier 9s and Tier 10s and I didnt have a Tier 9-10 I used SU-152,TOG2(to block the Bridge),SU-100Y(to help block and shoot the enemies),KV-2,and now Smasher. I remembered from and old World of Lols or something similar Video that HE has Splash damage so I used that to my advantage,and If I didn't feel like using Derp or Blocking the Bridge I'd use a Fast Reloading Tank to try and kill them or Track them
SIVA 4 WOT Blitz Herobrinehunter04 damn sick bro!
@@happy-wot-blitz Training Rooms are most of what I enjoy in Blitz
SIVA 4 WOT Blitz Herobrinehunter04 I should try them out some time ahah
I just started WOT BLITZ a couple weeks ago and to try and catch up, I've watched a few of your videos which I really enjoy. I use a lot of what I learned just from your videos so keep making them and I will watch them. How bout aN auto aim tutorial if you haven't made one already. thanks happy, LET'S GO!
Very informative, keep them coming, Thanks
Great video buddy, very informative
Andrew Hilson thanks a lot Andrew!!!
Just started playing..if you can call it that :)..great info. looing forward to more tips and stratagies. Thank you.
Wow, they can be a lot more effective than I thought, thanks 👍
Even though I know about this I am just liking Evey video u do
Hope u reach 1000 subs soon
Wow thank you for the support!!!
Never expected to be responded wow u made my whole week
larry Gonzalez On Blitz why would I not respond? Ahah :)
Literally super useful.
Thanks a lot
Nice vid dude..
elgia septian thank you! I have more on the way!
Great content! Great Breakdown, not a lot of fluff or opinions. In the 9 build slots, What is the best use for the increase in Velocity? other than canceling the rate of pen decrease. It seems to make the shots more predictable in my T49 even though it has no effect on the heat. On guns with low velocity and heat shells, is it a waste of time to increase the velocity?...is it better to get the aim time decrease?...This decision always takes me a long time to make. Especially in cases where aim time is already ok and velocity is decent....which option (aim time, velocity) is most pragmatic?
Great points! I look forward to using HE in WOT Blitz.
I almost never comment on videos, but this was great. Fantastic job explaining this. I'm going to go wreck some shit! Top notch info. Thank you, Sir.
Thanks for this vid. Ive been using he completely wrong
*_Good Channel Very Important information for WoT Blitz. Keep Good Work bro SUBSCRIBED You._* 👍
If an enemy is low on hp and is sidescraping and you can't shoot him,just shoot an HE on the ground near him and you'll kill him.
Man, this a good explanation, now i know how to use those HE lol, thank you very much for this video
Glad to help!
Man this help me a lot :-)
You deserve more subs
Very nice explanation, that's a good strategy if u r low tier and can't pen the big boys
Thanks man! I've been wondering how to use them better but its so hard to test on live.
Dude thank you that was super useful and awesome!
Great helpful tips. Thanks Happy, you stay happy.🎉
Yes , it's very helpful. I learned something from this video, thank you.
Thanks,keep the tutorials coming Happy. Your help is greatly appreciated.
Cheers for the video man. And keep them coming please
This was a great video!! Thank you!!
Great explanation and information well done
Glad you liked it bro!
I hear Studzianki theme
i like
Also, to those planning to hop from Blitz to PC, this is very useful information for you because once you go hulldown, everyone's gonna be lobbing HE at your turret roof and arty will be raining down HE hell.
Knew He would do that in real life but wasn't sure if that was the case in the game. I had never thought of shooting right beside a hidden tank or the upper area for shrapnel damage, good thinking
Respect for helping us out! Subbed
Wow, never knew this thanksss.
Sooo helpful man thanks 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁. Seriously it is new information for me even though I have been playing wot Blitz for 6 years now so thanks you
legend xD i will try this out as i was all the time thinking HE shells are useless xD
Outstanding my friend thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
@@happy-wot-blitz I want to thank you for your content and your passion for the game and for the poeple you are trying to help, you did an outstanding job explaining the use of H E I know I will become a better player as a result, please be safe and healthy considering covid 19 is out there killing poeple, peace
Robert Jackson Thanks a lot bro! I hope you subbed, because there will be a lot of useful content!
@@happy-wot-blitz I already subscribed about a week and a half ago, most youtubers really don't like to bother much with tanks under tier 7, or if they do they just rush through them because most patrons pay for upper tiers, and most lower tier tank videos are years old, not explaining new buffs or nerfs for tiers 6 or lower because they are chasing that money, but it seems to me that it's the lower tier player's that need the most help to get better, it's pretty funny to me that bushka, littlefinger, and Martin dogger for example all outstanding youtubers, talk about sidescrapping or going hull down, or even spotting mechanics or even knowing the different roles that all of the different tank types should be using, all usually in tier 9 or 10 tanks, but it seems to me we should be learning all of this stuff in tier 5, and to hear them complain about how nuubs are ruining the game at tier 10 and how nuubs are just rushing up to tier 10 before they are actually good enough to be able to compete against the best players in the game but what incentive do they have to stay at tier 5 or 6 when all of the information on the lower tier tanks are years old, with every new update they discuss at length the changes at length to upper tier tanks and not even bother to tell you about the changes to tier 5, pontuflee I love his channel but he was bad about skipping tanks in tiers 6 or lower for example, I usually play in tier 5 or 6 and I have more than 10,000 games, and i believe that I still have a lot to learn before going up to challenging the best players, I still struggle with consistency, I am probably one of the best stuug players in the game, I love the tank so much I permanently enriched it and now I earn more credits more easily than I do in my t 25, panzer v\iv, and my dicker max, and I have more than a thousand games in my dicker max, they talk about how good of a credit earner the Lowe is with it's credit coefficient at 190, but they have no idea about the tier 5 leopard with a credit coefficient at 140 and if you were to permanently enrich it would increase its credit coefficient by 106 %, I am terrible at math but wouldn't that make it's credit coefficient at over 280, it put the Lowe to shame, pontuflee did videos about as I call them home made premium tanks but didn't bother with anything below tier 7, so I am pretty much left on my own to do my own research because the poeple who have been playing for years and have all of most knowledge and experience aren't really helping the poeple who need it the most, they have no knowledge about what I told you about the stuug or the tier 5 leopard because they don't really care about lower tiers, I get that the money in the short term is better making review after review about upper tier tanks, and yet for example I was trying to find information on the tier 5 leopard and bushka's video on I was 3 years old and telling us about how good a gun is that you can't even get on the tank because wargaming removed it 2 and a half years ago, I heard that in update 7.0 that the panzer iv g supposedly received some sort of armor buff and I can't find a single video about it anywhere so I can learn about it, now it's update 7.2 and still nothing and I subscribe to about 14 or 15 different youtubers, it all seems to be mess for us nuubs, and I don't mind being a nuub, we all have to start at tier 1 not 10, in fact I even belong to the nuub_s clan lol, that's why I learned from and enjoyed your video because you actually drew the splash damage circle showing approximately how much of an area the he's frag\splash damage is effective for and how to best utilize it, please do me a couple of favors and please pass on the information about the stuug and the tier 5 leopard for me because I believe that information could be useful for lower tier players, and the second is please have a great day my friend
@@wierdoworrior3081 you are one insane player bro (in a good way). I will definitely pass the word on when I am able to do community posts!
Thank you, that will be a huge help for me! Cheers 🍻
Great info, i forgot about shooting the ground, yes please more vids on ammo and where to shoot.
Good information about HE shells+well explained,handy to know these tips 👍
Colin Davison good luck in battle!
Nice, thanks for sharing!
Never knew about this.. thankyou! I will like and subscribe
ty!!!
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Thanks For The Video!
great job mate, pls keep them coming
Thx this is so useful for my gameplay!
Glad I could help !
Bruh what...! I ain't know about this, real good bro🎉🎉
Another tip for newbies, If you can't pen a enemy tank such as on hull down, or your trying not to expose your tank on a 1v1, try to fire HE at the gun, If you damage it, it damages gun, Either they choose to repair it and waste a kit, or go on with the game with +30-50% dispersion
now i can use my HE shells frequently, thanks Happy - WOT Blitz!
Well explained 👍👍
Thank you so much!
Only 0.00000000001% of all Wot Blitz player is going to watch this video
Ahaha. Let’s hope it will be more!
@@happy-wot-blitz Hey man thank you for this video, without it I would never know how to use HE. (Sorry for my bad grammar I am still learning)
@@potatoman5523 your already pretty good with your grammar tho,keep it up
I AM BLITZ
Thx for the tutorial, I will definitely apply this(especially when playing my KV2,lol)
501stCOMMANDER HAHAHA u go brother!
quality content, subbed
HE works really well if you can find the Side of the tank,then aim for the tank’s turret,then Fire and it may ammo rack,if you do,you have a 65% chance of making it work