Why Mormon Influencers Are So Popular
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- It's actually insane I have to say this...
I don't actually think that many creators are Mormon, probably just my algo and the type of content I watch having a large overlap. It just felt like I kept hearing about how X creator is Mormon for weeks and finally made a video about it.
Mormon is not an ethnic group, they do not have a long shared history of persecution. They do not "control" social media. This video is purely about an interesting observation I had and my curiosity into why there are so many successful Mormons in the creator space. It's a topic for fun, its not meant to be seen as anything larger. I am critiquing the system/org not the people, I use the people to make points and to be entertaining.
Antisemitism is cringe, you are cringe. If you are here to say "Do a topic about X group" you are missing the point of this video.
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Antisemitism is for losers, you are a loser if that's what you are trying to turn any of this into.
You need to go outside, touch grass and never speak to another human again.
The clip where the man mentions the network of Mormons in this is vastly different than a group working together and having a shared struggle because of centuries of bigotry.
Edit:
also, I really like some creators who are Mormon. The outdoor boys, jerryrigeverything, Mark Rober, etc. I just have issue with the religion and found it interesting how prevalent they are in social media.
It would take hours in a video just to name them all and that would just be in the lifestyle space. I might make another video talking more about the history, or documenting all the different creators I stumbled across.
Once again, I must state. MORMONS DO NOT CONTROL social media, they are not some secret cult manipulating the algo. Its just Mormons are taught a lot of skills that transfer to being an influencer, or CIA asset. I dunno if there even is a disproportionate amount, I highly doubt it. I just found it interesting how many I noticed who were Mormon, probably just my algo.
How did you find out that Mark Robert and Jerry are Mormons if they are hiding it as much as they can?
Thank you for this
The Outdoor Boys are amazing!
No offense but a video idea about how prevalent influencers being Mormon "secretly" or "openly" is just not a very good idea, on paper and on execution.
And even if you don't have a problem with the influencers, the best option would've been to make a video about the religion itself (history, appeal, etc...), It's just not a good video idea and isn't an entertaining video idea nor is it a good topic (in this case)
@@MattAntoinneVranAMiro Thanks man, Ill tell the 100k (currently) people to unwatch it
My favourite part of the Book of Mormon was when Joseph Smith said “it’s Mormon time!” and mormed all over those guys
About 3 years late with that joke
@@frogwithaflaregun4792 blasphemy! This meme is _forever_ funny!
LMAO this made me almost choke
@@frogwithaflaregun4792I thought it was funny, you’re not invited to the cookout
As a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints this is incredibly funny
“DLC for the bible” absolutely took me tf out💀💀
The PERFECT way to say it! Gonna be using it from now on.
Fetch finally happened
I’m Mormon and I don’t think he’s wrong
Feels more like a mod tbh
2:11 the video also took me oooout 🤣🤣
Bro the founder used demons to help hunt for treasure
I read the title fast and thought it said “Why every influencer is secretly a moron” and I was about to say “WDYM SECRETLY?”
ayooo😂😂😂😂😂
isn't that what it says?😭
@@loveubuggyright😭
did it say something else?
"a" ?
Trad Wives sell an image. Most videos show them doing an optional activity, such as baking cookies. You never see the drudgery of chores or the frustration of children misbehaving, unless they're selling a solution.
I suspect Mormons are taught from an early age to be mindful of image. At school, when other kids complained about their own religion (boring sermons, required fasting) the Mormon kids stayed pretty tight lipped about their own experiences when they were around non-Mormon friends. Not saying that's universal, just what I observed growing up.
Agreed. I think a church that where going on missions is so focused on, automatically is raising people to know how to market and be image conscious on a level most other subcultures do not.
You are absolutely incentivised to be mindful of image growing up in the church. Keep in mind, I'm a girl, so my experience was basically on steroids. You need to uphold a "pure" image, regardless of what's going on in your personal life in order to stay afloat in the church's social circles, which oftentimes, are the only social circles you're allowed to interact with. You're heavily encouraged to lie to stay appealing.
Much later in life, when I discovered I was into girls, I married a woman and later got pregnant. My mom tells everyone that we're "roommates" and that my wife is a man who's just... Idk, suspiciously not there?? My wife is trans, it's literally her child, biologically even. My mom swears up and down that she doesn't exist, that I have a mystery roommate who I'm totally not married to, and that my husband is just absent for some fucking reason. The reasoning differs a lot too, it's not even a good lie, but people buy it because they remember who I was back when I was just as entrenched as they were. It's better for her image (which is the church's image) that I am a straight woman. If I was simply not gay, then I'd be ideal. I'm young, attractive, going to be a mother in literally a few weeks here, I cook and clean and do all the things I "should" and therefore I am marketable. I haven't gone to the church in years, but because I follow every single stupid stipulation placed onto Mormon women, my mom needs to run her mouth, and I'm not going to go to that cursed place to set everyone's perception straight. Mormon women need to be marketable above all else. It's disgusting that image is all you're good for if you're born female. The men matter, and the women only matter because they bring the kind of man that shit appeals to into the church. It becomes a point of pride to brag about if your children pop out as carbon copies of what the church deems as desirable. This is why the influencers are all so samey.
Keep in mind, people entrenched in the church are the church, mind, body, and soul. They are a mouthpiece and not much else. Who you are doesn't matter, this is why they need to deconstruct you and force conformity. It hits every single mark on the cult diagnostics list.
You are absolutely incentivised to be mindful of image growing up in the church. Keep in mind, I'm a girl, so my experience was basically on steroids. You need to uphold a "pure" image, regardless of what's going on in your personal life in order to stay afloat in the church's social circles, which oftentimes, are the only social circles you're allowed to interact with. You're heavily encouraged to lie to stay appealing.
Much later in life, when I discovered I was into girls, I married a woman and later got pregnant. My mom tells everyone that we're "roommates" and that my wife is a man who's just... Idk, suspiciously not there?? My wife is trans, it's literally her child, biologically even. My mom swears up and down that she doesn't exist, that I have a mystery roommate who I'm totally not married to, and that my husband is just absent for some fucking reason. The reasoning differs a lot too, it's not even a good lie, but people buy it because they remember who I was back when I was just as entrenched as they were. It's better for her image (which is the church's image) that I am a straight woman. If I was simply not gay, then I'd be ideal. I'm young, attractive, going to be a mother in literally a few weeks here, I cook and clean and do all the things I "should" and therefore I am marketable. I haven't gone to the church in years, but because I follow every single stupid stipulation placed onto Mormon women, my mom needs to run her mouth, and I'm not going to go to that cursed place to set everyone's perception straight. Mormon women need to be marketable above all else. It's disgusting that image is all you're good for if you're born female. The men matter, and the women only matter because they bring the kind of man that shit appeals to into the church. It becomes a point of pride to brag about if your children pop out as carbon copies of what the church deems as desirable. This is why the influencers are all so samey.
Keep in mind, people entrenched in the church are the church, mind, body, and soul. They are a mouthpiece and not much else. Who you are doesn't matter, this is why they need to deconstruct you and force conformity. It hits every single mark on the cult diagnostics list.
They absolutely are taught to present the correct image. They would literally tell us how important it was for us to dress right, speak right and always look happy because a happy mormon stereotype attracts investigators (potential new members)
I went to HS in the 1990s in Utah and yes, image and obedience are THE top values for mormons.
fun fact, the dude in charge of Mormons in Scotland once banned any more Mormons from coming to my house, they used to come every week and end up helping with tasks like firewood and painting. elder Stubbs is the only name i remember, he even brought his wife and her parents to meet my family. then they all got banned cause we wouldn't become Mormon ahahah
Where they helping u to get u to become Mormon?? I dont fully understand this text lol
It feels strange that Mormonism made it across the pond honestly. It feels like the belief that Jesus travelled to the US and left gold plates in the ground is something that really requires American Exceptionalism to buy into 🦅
@@Jmcinally94I'm from Germany and live about 10 minutes away from one of their churches here. Absolutely weird indeed because it's such an US centric "religion". Meeting those extremely young missionaries is also always at least a bit strange.
The fact you have purple aki as your pic is wild mate 🤣🤣
@@Jmcinally94you'd be surprised what 💩 people will buy into if packaged properly enough.
Johnny Harris is ex-Mo, he and his wife Iz have a video breaking down why they left and why a lot of Mormons are influencers. It's probably on Iz's channel from maybe 5 years back. TLDR: their graduating class at BYU was told that social media was a viable career even for women
Interesting. I talk about how Johnny left but had no idea about Iz's video.
@@ImJustCarter”interesting” I don’t even follow their channel or them that closely and I’ve seen several videos of them talking about leaving and their experiences while in it.
You did no proper research for this video yet speak with authority.
@@mightytaiger3000He mentioned that lmao
Maybe you should have watched the video
@@mightytaiger3000slow down there Johnny
@@mightytaiger3000 Do you live in constant disappointment over youtube videos not having thorough research? Like, “speaking with authority” is a requirement for a youtuber, and this case hardly seems harmful or misinformed, when that video just confirms even more what he’s already talking about…
Don't Mormons give 10% of their income to the church? So the church has an incentive to further these big influencers because they earn as well. So they don't admonish the influencers for not following ALL the rules (clothing etc) as long as enough money comes in...
Rolling eyes
It could be, but there is a theory that they fund those into businesses or stocks in major corporations so they can invest further and build temples and churches and thus recruit more followers. I am an ex mormon and I reside in the Philippines, and oh boy, the amount of influence they have in here is staggering specially in the northern islands. The money they use to build their churches and temples are no joke as well since they have very expensive materials (did I mention some of them are made from marble?) and they do have businesses on the side exclusively for members that circulate the money. Its like Costco, members only, low prices and great deals. And you would be surprised since all they sell are magazines, books, jewelries and garments. Credit where credit is due tho, they do help out on community drives and the poor (I.e. scholarships and loans) which I think further their reach. The loans they offer aren't bad either. There could be some businesses that are less known in circles but you can tell the church is rich because they maintain their churches well. Even the grass looks greener inside.
@@user-sc3kf2xc1i Sounds like a pretty solid organisation by your account.
They give more like 30%
They give back 10% and also are free laborers, not to mention, Mormons pay in order to go to missions, so there’s money there as well…
Alyssa Grenfell has a great video breaking down how videos that mention the words "Mormon" or "LDS" actually earn more money per view than most other videos do, which means Mormon influencers can earn a living online MUCH easier than other people
I came to comment the same. Its a remarkable video on why they are so successful
This ⬆️
This is actually so interesting. Im gonna check this out on stream! Thanks!
It's also why ex-Mormon content gets swept up with the Mormon content as well! The algorithm just knows it's about Mormon/LDS topics, it doesn't care if it's for or against
She also points out how much money Mormon influencers can make and it’s pretty crazy CPM wise. Your a stay at home mom, attractive, young, traditional, and can film your life and make a bunch of money. Imagine the church would push this as it’s free advertising for the church and the more money influencers make the more money the church gets. It’s a win-win strategy.
The Scientologists need to borrow the Mormons’ PR team 😂
Fun fact: the “I’m a Mormon” ad campaign was a rip off of the less successful/funded “I’m a Scientologist” ad campaign.
Ick
@@greenfox42 man both were roasted by South Park, and the only one that screeched after that, went nuclear and is in risk of extinction is Scientology, even if their main guy somehow reincarnates, people are gonna still throw sharp rocks at them and their temples
They need to borrow the Kool Aid from Jim Jones
@@freya-g3v funny!
This is the wealthiest church in the world by far. Influencers make Mormonism look beautiful and easy. Most members have nowhere near that level of privilege. Even very poor Mormons are taught to pay their tithing rather than feeding their children. When really this church has more than 100 billion dollars in stockpiled funds
Sure, but we also have the best welfare system in the world and actually take care of our needy...unlike other churches 😒
@@TeackoDoes it? Then why are there poor Mormons?
@@rosesweetcharlotte we give according to our members' needs, not their desires. The Lord loves effort
We don't know how much the church actually helps members. I know they make sure the church is the last resort for assistance.
When I was a clerk, the money coming in dwarfed the money going out. And there are charities out there for mormans to donate to help the poor when the church refuses to.
@@Teacko Does he? I read the Bible and while working hard is encouraged, a lot of stuff just happened because God wanted it to.
johnny left the mormon church to join the cia
There's a crazy pipeline there. The NSA has a massive facility in Utah for that reason.
Many Mormons end up in government jobs
Tell me you know nothing about Johnny Harris without telling me you know nothing about Johnny Harris
@@accounts128 I could be wrong but I think he's joking
@@accounts128harris is a wannabe glowie. worse than a real one!
Jerry rig everything and mark rober being Mormon is crazy 😭
I remember being surprised to find out Lindsey Sterling was a mormon through those I Am Mormon ads.
Damn. That's disappointing. I like her music. Never would have guessed she's part of a racist cult.
Hahaha but did you know Kaskade is mormon?
I actually discovered her though those lmao. I still enjoy her as an artist. I didnt know about Brandon Flowers being a mormon until those tho
what???! i thought she's Christian
She has left the church though
That man in the bottom left, Hank Pecker, hit my mom and ran from a convinience store in 89
Real.
He also stole my grandma's braces, 20 years ago
I thought Hank Pecker was Hasanabi somehow. Looked really similar when I saw his face.
@@mylegalname9852it is a persona of his
I witnessed it I swear to god
I dated a Mormon girl once, granted she probably never would have agreed to go out with me im the first place if she wasn't already questioning things, but she told me many times that she never really wanted kids and the pressure she felt to pop out as many kids as possible was exactly the opposite of what she wanted.
Her kind won't last long in the gene pool
Most sane women on this planet don't want to pop out too many kids. Pregnancy and labor can kill you, and can be excruciatingly painful. No sane person wants that.
I had to Google mark rober Mormon bc I couldn't believe it but he is. The article I read actually says he's NOT Mormon but then goes on to say he is by saying he's part of the LDS church. Wacky.
dang
The guy also put Johnny Harris in the thumbnail for clickbait reasons, when he changed his entire life to leave the church. Weird
You read an AI article. You should probably learn to recognize them and not read them
@@garret6464 can you tell me which video that is?
I saw that article- it was terribly written and almost definetly AI. He's fully a Mormon, and so it the action lab.
I see more ex-Mormon influencers more than anything else. So I’m on the right side of RUclips I guess
@@Cryinginthecloudssss hahaha I am a Utah gay (and love SLC). I was out having dinner at this restaraunt and two hot daddies walked in with their significant others. Turned out they were both family influencers. It was crazy the anomocity and wanting to collab the two couples embodied.
AFAIK Johnny Harris is also ex Mormon.
He had a video on why he got out of it.
@@markmywords3817 He is and has videos on it
i think youre missing the point that much of mormon influencing is not obvious, meta tagged, etc.
@@l.matthewblancett8031 I'm not sure it's a secret organized effort anymore than it's a byproduct of a culture self-obsessed with appearance. Here's a weird factoid. Salt Lake City has the second most plastic surgeons in the US.
Mormons are massively overrepresented among the best American fantasy and sci-fi authors in the last 40 years. Brandon Sanderson, Orson Scott Card, Stephenie Meyer, Tracy Hickman…the list just goes on and on.
I would not call them 'the best' in any part of the art of writing, but definitely the bestsellers.
@@Cutieyum4brando sando is easily one of the best
best? 😅
@@notoriousthug121 that’s one author lmao
Sanderson is the only good writer in that list and he's still a bit overrated.
Lol, shit, my parents forgot the wealthy part. The church is wealthy. Not all members are.
How many missions have they done and where?
@@rybread5718bruh my great grandparents were born in the church and were very poor
SAME. My Mormon parents are super poor
It troubles me to see my parents who have been in poverty throughout their lives still pay tithing or more but they do engage with the services that tithing pays for. I wish that there was some "revelation" that people earning 0-100k$ do not need to pay for tithing anymore. Lord know that would create an additional superiority complex for certain members and they don't need another one of those.
Of course, it's just that mormons on average are wealthier than non-mormons, and the ones that are wealthy tend to be quite wealthy, and its those ones that end up as social media influencers
Fun fact: Most Mormans have a years supply of food in their basement.
So do the Amish. And being prepared isn't unique to cult like 'religions'
@@slomnimthe amish aren’t cultish though? they are given the choice to leave their communities and join greater society when they become adults
@@JAY-zf6jw yeah but then they are excommunicated or shunned
@@JAY-zf6jw are you american? They're like jehovah witnesses to anyone outside of usa, a weird cultish community
@@ihatemaxxdepends on the sect
Didnt even touch on how many mormon authors there are. Seriously, some of the biggest names in modern literature are mormom, and are literally a part of a club of mormon authors, whose soul purpose is to inject mormonism into their works and bring in more mormons. Authors like Orsan Scott Card (Ender's Game), Stephanie Meyer (Twilight), Brandon Sanderson (too many books to list). Card and Meyer really hammer their mormonism in ij very sneaky ways too. Bella isnt allowed to drink caffeine and goes on at length about how it makes her "wired" (like a diet coke is making her trip balls) and in the Ender's series, teleportation requires one to hop INTO heaven, and then dip out, in a way that only makes sense if you have some mormon trivia background.
Brandon Sanderson has a big thing for arranged marriages. There in almost every book of his and always work out, even when it seems like they really shouldn't.
@ToxNano honestly as soon as I found out Sanderson was in the LDStories I put ever reading his shit on the back burner lol.
I agree. Actually Brandon Sanderson is the newest one to put out what can only be called fascist habitation with a massive BookTube adolation society. If you ever read Terry Pratchett, Jasper Fforde, Gail Carriger and the like, you will notice that these "new hit authors" not only cannot write well, they are are habit hating their readers to sloppy thinking and normalize if not idolize fascist thought.
@@MrHighlife You can still read it. Aside from the marriages you wont notice his religious leanings and the books are very good.
@@ToxNano Arranged marriages are not doctrinal in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Maybe in some off-shoots here and there, but not the mainstream church.
"... like your Chile in 1973" that caught me off guard lol.
Greetings from Chile my friend, great video.
my dads family are both chilean and mormon 😭 also for a second i thought he was implying that mormons actually infiltrated chile for the coup d'état and i was so shocked
Same! My dad's family is chilean and I never hear us get mentioned on the internet
Somos el mejor pais de chile, incluso tenemos la mejor corrupción
CHILE MENTIONED!!! VIVA CHILE MIERDA!!!
@@lucialoba490 we're too underground and niche for the world
Jerryrigeverything being Mormon makes so much sense it all fits into place now
So is the WhatsInside channel, Rose Anvil and Snazzy Labs.
@@Entertainment- didn't whatsinside and jerryrigeverything Collab a few times as well?
@@tunahan4418 Yes they did.
What fits into place?
@@midann His obsession of having a stay at home wife, building farms to sustain themselves and building a bunker for end times.
I just started to live in peace after finally forgetting that Johnny Harris never finished the series on Mormonism, until you reminded me…
I know, when are we getting the next one!! Lol
DUDE SAME I'M SO MAD ABOUT IT
He just did a new one. It's good. New exMormon. I learned interesting stuff.
Thank God I really don’t know a single one of these people being mentioned in this video. I’m marking this as a huge success.
Me too
You dont know Mark Rober or Jerryrigeverything?
or Johnny Harris?
@@ImJustCarter no
@@langustajableczna Mark Rober is litterally one of the biggest creators on yt. I belive you have certainly come across one of his videos.
@@mz.7934 No, I haven't. Even if it was in my recommended I most likely click "don't recommend channel" because it's just not something I watch ever. People watch different things lol
Exmormon here. Thanks for talking about this. It's a cult.
Former ex-mormon here. It's not a cult; you're just cringe 😂
@@TeackoMLM schemes are cringe
How long were you a Mormon?
@@SigFigNewton yeah, they are. Unfortunately, MLMs pander to mormons because of our missionary marketing skills 😉
@@Teacko hey now don't get your magic underwear in a twist
I feel like if you're gonna plaster Mark Rober prominently in your thumbnail and front and center when you show examples of Mormon influencers you should mention him at least once.
🎆🎆Alyssa Grenfell, here on RUclips, discovered that the Mormon church actually supports their Influencers with very VERY high Adsense payout. She compared the amount of Adsense per view of popular LA and NYC influencers to Utah based influencers and the difference is staggering. RUclipsrs in Utah are tripling what the big city content makers are receiving for the same amount of views. Alyssa followed the money straight to the Mormon church, that tax exempt mega corporation. 🙄
This makes no sense. Adsense is a Google product. Their church can't give them an adsense payout... 3:23
It literally says "a theory" in the thumbnail...
"Discovered' 😂😂😂 I'm pretty sure she said it was a theory in the title.
Their ads about the church get put on videos of people who tag their videos utah, lds and similar and as they put a lot of money for ads, influencers get a good payout meaning church gets more money from them @@vapor4
My exMormon daughter tried to tell me something similar. I'm not sure if that's the case, but I told her the facts are that we were told before instagram to share our beliefs online. I'm born in the 70s and journaling has always been highly promoted to us as a way to process our gratitude and show our life experiences to our posterity. I have a decent amount of personal journals from my teens to adulthood. Pinterest might have been even bigger early on with this kind of stuff. Nice rosy quotes, etc. I never chose to get online and promote the church. Been there and done that as a return missionary. I'm a Mormon so mentioning something on facebook once a blue moon was normal to me. Most of my facebook feed is Mormon though and I think we all understand that there is a limit to how much of that stuff people want to see before you're super dull even amongst ourselves and muted. The facts are that we had a massive surge early on. Design Mom era are the true pioneers. "Influencers" is like the next generation.
I called them LSD’s because they’ve got to be crazy to be in that “religion “…And I’m dyslexic
missed opportunity to say "...because they be trippin' to be a part of that religion"
As a psychonaut I am offended on behalf of the good ol Lysergic Acid
I think people who take LSD are way more in touch with everything than people within abrahamic religions are.
As a Trek fan who saw The Whale One in cinemas, I approve!
I'm glad that Spock did a little too much LDS at Berkley.
P.S. Double dumb-ass on all o' youse!
Dog bless!
As a former mormon that grew up in Utah, mormons (at least in Utah) are industrious, highly encourage college, and spend two years from 19-21 (now 18-20) doing nothing but evangelizing. These all coalesce to a pretty thriving economy, and naturally extend to sales/influencing.
This makes so much sense! I've seen them in Africa. The women highly prioritize their appearance which can boost them online!
This is really interesting! Idaho, another mormon hub, seems to have the opposite culture regarding education
Utah Mormon here. ✋The sales and missionary thing is correct but Utah Mormons are widely anti-science and anti-intellectual and the state leads the country in personal debt and is near the top in bankruptcies. Much like the "happy mormon" image (they lead the nation in anti-depressant use), the thriving, smart, industrious mormon is largely a myth and façade.
The mormon influencer thing can be explained by the massive amount of narcissism that white mormon women have.
damn, mormons should like conquer a good chunk of the states and just work work work. its hell lot better than the methhead baby daddies running around my side of Pennsylvania
That pretty much sums it up
0:04 hasan 😂😂
You mean Hank Pecker
ah hell nah no way
THATS MY MAN HANK PECKER
How in hell is Hasan morman
@@maryamtara2934 he's definitely MOREMAN
Ex-Mo Alyssa Grenfell has an amazing video about this exact topic. Her theory is that the Mormon church spends huge amounts of money on ads connected to Mormon content, so it’s super profitable to make that kind of content. They don’t even know it but these influencers are indirectly being paid by their church
Hank Pecker oh captain, my captain.
I would've thought Hank was a good ol' fashioned Christian boy.
I was like "HASAN?!?"
Isn’t carter one of Hasan’s mods or is he a avid chatter? I hear Hasan mention him on stream every once in a while.
Just a community member
@@shiniblackrose Hank Pecker, RUclips’s most honest, conservative, political analyst 🇺🇸🦅🫡
Thank you for saying it as it is and not sugarcoating it. It’s not just a harmless religion, it’s a cult. If you don’t think it is, then you don’t know how many lives it has destroyed
How has it "destroyed lives"??? Why doesnt anybody ever bring up how helpful and beautiful it has been in so many people's lives.
Talk to all the gay ex members of the church, or black members, or the other countless communities the church has literally shunned.
Utah has one of the largest teen suicide rates, and by far the highest of queer youth.
@ImJustCarter I actually have. The Church's history is problematic (of which 99% can be blamed squarely on Brigham Young) but the gospel is still true. Utah Mormons also don't speak for the entirety of the faith. My ward has LGBT members 😊
@@ImJustCarterAlso, talk to the women about the harm it intentionally causes. The only people genuinely benefiting from it are the straight white men.
@@ImJustCarter Thank you for standing up for these folks. It is appreciated way more than you can imagine ❤️❤️
In Poland we don't know a lot about Mormons - they are here, but it's not a popular religion. But we like Studio C 🤗
Wait, theyre mormon???
@@beatm6948 yes, at least most of them. Tori Pence was starring in a horror movie, and I don't know if it is allowed among Mormons. They rather choose calmer sides of art, I think...
"Mormons" are allowed to do whatever they want.
As ridiculous as Christianity is at face value already, it's absolutely hilarious to think that over 1000 years later Jesus was like oh shit I forgot to say some stuff, brb!
Christianity isn’t ridiculous. Atheism is. Considering that you have to believe that morality isn’t objective, and that the universe is either a brute fact or always existed, or came from nothing. And you have to assume all order in the universe happened by random chance.
I’m not Mormon btw, I’m Catholic. The true Church that can trace its origins back to Jesus, not some random dude 1,000 something years later. This is actually a reason Catholics think things like Protestantism are weird
Nice cope, but believing a 2000 year old book that was totally not written by people who could've been drunk and/or liars but also recorded everything perfectly, some of which cant not be reproduced today therefore meaning it 99% chance didn't happen, but to then base your "morals" on that and are dumbfounded when someone looks at the Bible with an inch of logic and then stops believing it is, and I know you'll cope and deny this, less ridiculous than believing in the totally legit Bible
Also, you claim morality is objective and yet different cultures and religions with different morals (Buddhists just accent husbands will cheat so they legalized prostitution) still succeed. A lot of Christian morals either follow the golden rule "don't do something to someone else you don't want done to you" and were therefore not Christian inventions, or are just don't do self destructive behavior because I can't trust people to do it regularly which is just supremely controlling and stupid. Also, the universe expanded from an infinitesimally small space, and there's boatloads of evidence for it (contrary to the lack of evidence your god has) so to deny that is astounding, especially when to your last point we don't claim to know everything, we don't know why the universal constants came about in the way they did, and well continue to admit we don't know until we find some evidence for a reason (oh which again, there is absolutely 0 evidence for your god)
@@kyrptonite1825 lmao Christian apologetics are so sad. Also I never said I was an atheist but nice try. Why do Christians have to make everything about them? I know this comment mentioned you guys but really it’s about Mormons, not you. Yet you turned this into a Christian apologetics rant against atheists and I never even mentioned atheism or said I was atheist lmao. Hey here’s an idea. Maybe instead of pestering non-Christians, you should go and pester your priests, you know… convince them to stop… you know….. fucking kids.
Not an ex-mormon, but I also left a cult-like religion a long time ago, and looking back at it now, I realize how the religion was sugarcoated. Thank you for the amazing video. You broke it down beautifully and not gonna lie, everything makes more sense now. I never liked those Mormon influencers nor did I think they were innocent little influencers with a passion for something. It's a literal business deal. Also, I might be wrong, but I've also heard that those Mormon influencers give some of the money they've earned to the LDS church. Again, I might be wrong but I thought it's worth mentioning.
You're correct. Mormons are required to pay a tithe of 10% of their income every month. They'll say it's optional, but it's really not because the only way you can get into the best part of the Celestial Kingdom (i.e. heaven) is through participating in temple ceremonies, which you aren't allowed to do if you don't pay.
@@FictionJunction.M.And to add to your info, members are pressured to pay a 10% tithing on their *gross* income. My ex-husband and I paid ~$30,000 USD during the 7 years of our marriage, when were active members.
@updated_autop - it’s called tithing. Adherents are expected to tithe _AT LEAST_ 10% to the church. The more money they make, the more the church receives.
Imagine giving 10% of your gross income every month in order to get a better spot in heaven!😂 BUT to your point about religion, this is why religion is so dangerous and we should do everything to keep it out of our government. Regardless if your Christian or not, you should be able to understand that it’s a terrible idea to inject religion into our current government!
@@FictionJunction.M.oh so I was right. Thank you!
"Destablize you like you're Chile 1973" - instant sub
It's actually quite easy to be an LDS member AND and Social Media Influencer... because of how "Family Friendly" their content is, and thus immune to demonetization. In fact, I would go so far to say that it's possibly encouraged by the church because it's still considered outreach and paints them in a good light.
For me, I can always tell when someone is mormon just by the way they carry themselves. I dunno, maybe it's the eyes and that "mormon smile" are dead giveaways to me. That, and they have such a polished look to them with that waaaayyy too passive aggressive overly friendly vibe. (Stepford Wives) Mark Rober, Jerry Rig Everything, What's Inside family are three examples off the top of my head where they are just too gooey over the top "nice" and you can tell it's not just when the camera is on.
I think it's because their culture puts such a strong emphasis on the appearance of perfection, rather than actual substance. They're also privileged and generally good looking. The worst thing about all of it is that it's actually pretty ugly when you look closely and full of abuse enablers and apologists.
Every Mormon I know (10+) is on antidepressants
It's not that they're generally good looking lol, the women are just highly encouraged to tan and dye their hair blonde, which some people view as stereotypicqlly attractive
@@Linksballs appealing to a lie about beauty, an affront to their statements on "souls are beautiful," all I see are atheists/agnostics in denial of their system they proclaim as oh so holy
@@slomnim It's true, some find the quest for perfection overwhelming and it depresses them. I have my down days like anyone else, but I've never been on anti-depressants. Also as an earlier commenter pointed out, studies show a correlation between living at higher altitudes and increased depression and suicidal tendencies.
@@Linksballs yes and, have you all driven on the I-15 from Ogden to Provo? A TON of plastic surgery billboards! Utah has the second highest rate of plastic surgeons per capita in the nation behind Miami, so it's not just natural, it's exactly what the Kardashians do. It's actually really sad.
I was in a ward with JerryRigEverything a few months ago. I didn't know he was a youtuber until I saw the cybertruck in the church parking lot. Then it felt really weird knowing I knew someone with 9 million subscribers. He is so absolutely nice though
For us non-Mormon Utahns, must i emphasize how insanely weird it is to see RUclips so fascinated with this topic all the sudden... For us this has all been common knowledge for a while.
Congrats you knew about it first… But everybody doesn’t live there and social media helped us find out about it because it started trending… So do you want to cook or something?
The only common knowledge outside of Utah, or even USA, is that mormons smell. Yes, when those missionaries go around the world for some reason they don't wear deodorants, or just overperfume themselves with the worst perfume, so a meme of "mormon smell" was born 😂
It's not that well known outside the US. Plus they also don't have weird dressing/style so they don't stand out even w their beliefs. They're basically an afterthought unlike other sects.
@@tonijackson3421 I honestly don't think the comment was made to brag, rather to express how it is surreal when surrounded by something like a lifestyle dictating Religion to the point that info about it is taken for granted even as an "outsider" to suddenly have a bunch of people develop interest seemingly out of nowhere while having had no idea about and be shocked by much of the subject matter which *usually* isn't strictly speaking a secret and feels practically mundane from repeated exposure and normalization even though it isn't ACTUALLY widely known outside a given region. It isn't about being better for knowing first which we can agree would be a silly notion, just a desire to openly acknowledge how legitimately weird of an experience it is to have your common knowledge and everyday surroundings be another person's novel and eye opening information.
Consider…leaving
Mormon=Mor-Mon=More Money
Took the words right out of my fingers
@@rachel1729you should get that looked at
As a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints I find this incredibly funny
True, the only thing to get into heaven is Jesus, not this madness
Oh like the movie?
Brandon Flowers, the singer from The Killers is Mormon. He's a cool guy.
For the last point you made about looking out for signs like preparing for “the end days” I feel like that’s also a very southern/rednecky thing to do sometimes, like I’ve seen youtubers with gun obsessions and they have bomb shelters and gun vaults and crazy stuff. Seems like a general Christian thing as well, not exclusive to Mormonism
Yes, pretty big in the denomination I grew up in as well, Seventh-day Adventism. 🤢
The Mormon church is basically an MLM (that’s probably why they are so popular in Utah). Just like an MLM, people join so they can have the luxurious lifestyle that the group advertises but this almost never works out the way they want. It is an In Crowd that you are not apart of and they won’t accept you. They just want you to fall in line and be a follower.
Dude... They FOUNDED Utah.
@@aj383 No shit.
@@TJones-zw9mw I'm a member of the "Mormon" church I am not a rich person but the ones that are work hard and find time for family
@@TJones-zw9mwthe commenter is stating that they are popular in Utah because they founded Utah. Not because of their MLM structure specifically as you are insinuating.
I'm lost on this comment. There is an unfortunate amount of MLMs in Utah do to the neighborly culture within the church and people being overly trusting. But how is the church structured like an MLM. Feels like a reach.
Not a mormon, but I feel like you need to distinguish some of the different ways "stay at home moms" exist. Lots of women want to raise their own kids, which doesn't happen if both parents spend most of their working day outside the home. You have to resort to a nanny, which can cost as much as the woman working outside the home would have made anyway. My mom was a stay at home mom, but she had a masters degree and worked in both marketing and as a teacher before raising me.
So this was big for me. This is really big for me . I have a couple of painful stories with the church. I'll leave one and keep it to the cliff notes here for everyones viewing sake.
As a queer. As a trans person. As a human being who existed in tumultuous time of my life in the Mormon church, I'm very glad that I left but I didn't leave of my own choice. I wasn't glad when it happened for years. I got excommunicated at 14 for sharing a meme on Facebook. That went something to the effect of "share this cat if you support gay people or just really like cats" there was an immediate silence and then days of unfriending... No one would talk to me. No one would say anything about what I had done wrong for over 2 years until I finally was told I could not enter the building with the rest of my family one morning, heartbreak and the reason he gave me was, "Because you are not godly anymore and have not been for a long time, go home and pray, fû&&@t." By my Branch president to my face. I was 16 at the time when he said it and I was to young to realize I didn't need any of that anymore. Still i struggled for years having to forge a new identity learning to love myself without God and The Mormon church in my life. Because they really wanted to be everything you are. Even to this day it still haunts me at 25. It almost drove me to attempt to commit suicide. What they did harmed me. How they acted changed me. Them deciding to stand in front of a door and say that to me 10 years later to my face, wounded deeper than any child deserves to know the depth of is possible.
This is only one painful story. I have many as stories to tell. Not all quite as painful as this. There's good in the church too. It's not like every person is a monster.
I remembered looking up to him as a kid wanting to be like him when my dad was gone from my life, he left but this guy stayed, I remember the way he treated my mom and my family , bringing us dinner when people aren't talking to us after he left. I remember the way he welcomed us back into the church despite the divorce. I remember the home teaching nights where he made Christmas and birthdays happen for us that we would not have had otherwise.
There is lots of beauty to be found and shared in religion too and that can't be ignored by some people. But that's not all I remember.
I remember the disgust he said it to my face with that last day. I remember the way he asked me if I had been masturbating before I was aloud to go to Temple the first time and told me I wasn't worthy because I didn't know how to answer that kind of a question at 12. I remember events that are not safe for posting here when I was 9, what he did to me in the dark of night, when no one else was around to hear me at a Scouting trip. I always will. One of the many scars that man left behind in his time in before and after he became the Branch president.
The Mormon church is a tool for abuse. Countless abuses of power, hiding their predators and moving them from state to state and sometimes even country to country, pushing down queers, mistreating their wifes abandoning communities in places they make dependent on them. All of these things are the reasons people leave and more.
I'm a better person for leaving. I'm a happier person for leaving. I'm a person who is alive today for leaving. I'm a person who's a in a loving pair of relationships with two people that care about me very much and I care about very much ❤️ I would have been a very different person if I survived my time in the church differently. It is thanks only to the kindness and companionship that I have survived that winter in my life at all.
This was a lot to type out this morning. I am shaking. My phone is at 10%. I don't want people to reply I just want them to understand.
For me the key was realizing that the church is not god. It merely has its own human interpretation of who God is. God to me is unexplainable in his ways, that's his/her/it's nature. When your bond to God is personal, you don't really need a church(maybe apart from the social perspective).
Ps sorry for replying😂
If that brings you to a healthier happier relationship with religion and belief. Beautiful! I found the old Norse tales to be quite a comfort now and likely will for a long time. I truly am happy for anyone who gets out of it and can still find joy outside of what they defined it was allowed to be good, gods (plural), or even the flying spaghetti monster. If it helps bring you hope, if it gives you strength, then learn from it and be enriched by it and your that to lift up those around you. Don't apologize for resonating.
Thank you for sharing this.
I know it's not much consolation, but that guy is toast in the next life. God will not be mocked, and although some people seem to get away with inhuman actions in this life, I have faith that their penalty will be just. I'm so sorry to hear about the horrific treatment you received at the hands of a wicked and evil person, hiding behind his own lies. Thank you for acknowledging that not everyone is like this.
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Me: Real people can't queerbait
Mormons: Hold my milk
Every Mormon I've ever met (literally 100+) is lactose intolerant, and that's just one of their 40 allergies.
@@B-rad1definitely a case of correlation vs causation. as a utah native, i know 4 people who are heavily allergic. 1 of them is mormon. and i know 2 people who are lactose intolerant, 1 of them is mormon. correlation vs causation
@@greysonc3719 My comment is entirely correlation-based. I didn't say being Mormon caused them to be lactose intolerant.
@@B-rad1all of us should be though, it’s weird to consume milk after being weaned as a baby.
@lou__ley milk drinking as adults is what led horse riders out of the Caucasus to take over the Mediterranean and Europe in prehistoric times. Europeans/Africans/Asians of that stock are milk drinkers until death
Your video isn't really related to those you used in the thumbnail, it seems to be mostly focused on women tiktok influencers
You can't put Johnny Harris in the thumbnail like that when he uprooted his life leaving the church.
I'm thinking it was because that is how he started up and left later.
Were they Mormon? They gave it up, I think @Kurazaybo
@@Kurazaybo Rhett and Link were standard Christians, not Mormons
But he's 'mormon' culturally.
Yeah really weird honestly. I understand the clickbait but he does have a ton of videos about it. Doesn’t seem right
When I was younger, the only reason me and my friends went to church ( Mormon ) was for the activities they offered. Almost every weekend, we either went jet sking, snowboarding, camping, or shooting range they also had their own sports league for the big 3 ( soccer, basketball,and baseball ). Weekly BBQs and events. Then you get older, and you have to participate in weird ceremonies like baptizing for the dead where they use our body as a vessel. idk it was weird.
Wtf
Alyssa grenfell has a great video about this. She found out that the mormon church is paying for more ad revenue with videos that have mormon keywords, including her videos that critized the church
In many ways, there is nothing more spiritually American than Mormonism.
It is a home-grown religion so yes
Holy shit, when you think about it, that really makes sense.
Mormonism as the perfect blending of Capitalism and compassionate narcissism?
Yes!
Sorry about your friends, man. There's not much anyone can say that changes anything when it comes to religious trauma/bigotry and the horrible effects it can have, but I understand and I wish you and your friends didn't have to go through what happened ❤
All good! I have friends who have made it their mission to fix things.
Lots of progress has been made in SLC on pressuring the Church into a more progressive stance on LGBTQIA+.
As a black person, i assure you an apology wouldn’t help them anyway. Idk why people make such a big deal about apologizing when most people don’t even mean it. Just let people be bad people all by themselves and stop trying to “hold people accountable” when you don’t even care that much.
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Homie said "the church's brand." Cool cool cool let's tax that shit. Just another American tax haven...
You're just jealous that our in-church welfare system is leaps and bounds better than the US's...and arguably even better than Scandinavia's too 😉
💯 the tax-exempt status is one of the many, many ways high-demand religions exploit people. LDS is a good example of a for-profit (for prophet lol) religion. And Scientology has to be the worst offender.
Now that they’re that wealthy it would take insane amounts of poor decision making to not simply keep getting wealthier
@@SigFigNewton Yeah like buying a fleet of Ferrari's just to own that one Morman PR operative in the other comment thread. 🤣
@munkyenima "PR operative" 🤣. Not my fault the AntiMo arguments are easy to debunk...
If the church is one big money laundering scheme, who is profiting from it?
Mark Rober is especially confusing because you’d think he’d be a man of science all around.
Edit: lmfao the ppl getting defensive in the replies is so funny. Point blank, it is batshit crazy to be a full grown adult that believes in angels and demons and the rest of this absolute nonsense.
I don't even think it's known if he is or not but just cause you're scientist means you're gonna be atheist
turns out, they're not exclusive things. we put out a lot of great scientists. love of truth is what makes that happen.
@@christianlassen1577 lol
@@Cooper-fe2zj keep laughing. see where it takes you.
the enlightenment and the majority of scientists that pulled Europe out of the middle ages were overwhelmingly religious, many of them were monks.
the great mathematicians of the Persian empires were deeply faithful.
we don't believe in God because we have blind faith. we believe in God because we see that it improves other people's lives, or our own. we test it out to see if there's something to it, take little steps if faith and see if they hold, if they do, we keep going. if they don't hold, we change things a bit and try again. this is exactly what good scientists do. we take steps into the dark with some sort of faith that we'll find something useful, and try things out and experiment, and learn and grow and depend on what is true and what holds firm.
I mean, that, or you could just delude yourself into thinking that someone as smart as Mark Rober is less smart than you. But that's not reality, is it? just feels good to your ego. Who's living the fantasy in that case?
idk theres lots of religious scientists idk what the point is here
I’ve started to develop a Mormon radar recently, though I was nevermo. I find though it’s similar to detecting and MLM, and they both use the same tactics for recruiting. They tend to not tell you what they want from you until you’re invested, hence inviting you for coffee and getting to know you personally first. They tend to not tell you the name of the thing until directly asked. They tend to discourage research of the thing saying “oh, there’s people who spread rumors, but we’re well known for so much good stuff!”
Bonus points if they’re Mormon and MLM both.
Omg .nevermo?! Crazy ass word lol
@@sadmermaid yeah, you should check out the exmormon subreddit for the whole glossary.
@@sadmermaidyeah it’s a thing 😊
No coffee though. 😂
@@lou__ley that's so funny, I love it! Feels like a cute lil nickname
I liked this video a lot as an exmo. It was also great to see you talk about some of the things that often get overlooked when talking about Mormonism. Like how Mormon is considered an incorrect term now. Are you going to talk about temple ceremonies in a future video? There's leaked footage of them on RUclips, but not a lot of people have covered them.
I was friends with a Mormon once… bro made up a whole fake middle name and claimed he to be from Hawaii. Couple years later he was also Egyptian, Dominican , Puerto Rican etc
I think you were just friends with a pathological liar.
@@sirpigeoniii yes, he was however a Mormon, parents were into it heavy, I wasn’t allowed too close bc I wasn’t part of the church
0:03 I’d say; who are they? I know two of them and didn’t think one of them even existed anymore.
Yeah I think his observation started from a conclusion... Lots of RUclipsrs and influencers believe in lots of things in their personal lifes, of course if you pick out the Mormon ones they are all Mormons lol
And you can pick your measurement for what is "succesful" in a way to support your conclusion..
It's like picking categories like why are so many RUclipsrs progressives, or conservative, have brown hair, live in the united states etc
4:06 "... trying to destabilize you llike you're Chile in 1973." I'm wheeeeezing bfjwjdjsjbf
There's just an inherent preference towards content made by a group (especially religious) you're a part of, even if it's not targeted towards that group specifically. Even as a regular Christian, I feel like I gravitate towards artists or creators who are Christian on some level since I'd share more in common with them + my old Christian school friends would more likely be interested in them
They are always Mormon or Canadian. I don’t know which is worse.
😂😂😂
Mormon French Canadian here.
Any ideas for my next livestream?
Mormon definitely
oh canadian 100%
@@SigFigNewtonI can excuse Mormon. I can understand being Canadian. But FRENCH!?!?!??!!?
"Stay at home not doing anything" lol he just insulted not only every stay at home mom but every day care worker, cleaner, cook , and teacher ( if the mom homeschools)
fr, my mom used to be a college teacher before she decided to be a SAHM and she literally is my heroine bc she is sooo freakin cool! She manages money like a pro, takes care of my little sister who has had a chronic medical condition (T1D), while managing a tiny child care business. She is the ultimate girlboss in my life. Edit: and we aren't Mormen btw lol
4:52 "mormons working for mormons making more money" opportunity for a golden pun was missed here
OMG MORMONEY LMAOO
I picked out Mark Rober, “Ben Dover” (Pleasant Green), James Orgill (Action Lab), and Ramsey Dewey as Mormon well before I looked any of them up or heard them mention their Mormonism. The Mormon sixth sense thing is real. The best I could come up with for how I pick them out is that they’re white, don’t swear, do good, and have quirky fun. I imagine, given the tight knit culture within the LDS community, that there are also mannerisms and speech patterns that I’m tacitly picking up on, too. I also heard several Mormon media personalities studied in BYU’s media program, which might explain some similarities among RUclipsrs in particular. Again, given the strong sense of community, even those that didn’t attend the program would likely put out content that’s influenced by the style of those who did.
Since more than half of the LDS members in the world live outside the US, and the fastest growing areas are in South America and Africa, it can be reasonably assumed that most members are not in fact, white.
Back in like 2013 or so I remember watching RUclips with my nevermo friends and saying "that one's Mormon." I think the first one was Lindsay Sterling. And they'd be like, "no she's not!" Then I'd say, "that other one's Mormon but they'll be exmo soon." And my friends would be like, "you think everyone's Mormon!" But I'm telling you, when you're raised LDS, you pick up on tiny little cues and you just KNOW.
I am a member. This all seems really numbed out. Lots of the church is not like this. There ARE groups, GROUPS like this. But we can have any jobs and women are not discriminated against for having a job. Whilst there are things I dont like about my church, such as not being able to play stuff like diabo 4 (i do) and have a few things. TLDR, the majority of "mormons" are not like this. Please dont make us seem mean. We love all, and thank you for being here!
I'm not a Mormon myself. In fact, I am rather a critic. But I understand that you are absolutely correct. Mormons are an easy target to insult as a "cult" because they are not mainstream and there's no cultural taboo against insulting them. Mormons are also incredibly nice and "turn the other cheek" when they are insulted, so there's no fear in insulting them. You will never get a Charlie Hebdo like situation from Mormons. Instead, they will pray for you and invite you to their church. Utah is one of the best run states in the USA, and Mormons have a social fabric and values that lead to higher than average community success rates. Your comment illustrates the graciousness that is common among Mormons that the rest of society can learn from.
idk how to explain it but i feel like there's a mormon accent? like mark rober definitely has it and so does the fellow at 9:00 in the video. It's somehow very similar to the male gay accent but sanitized...?
bro hassan isnt a Mormon hes not even white and grew up in turkey - hes not religious at all - this must be ragebait 🤣
You should also touch on how the cosmetic industry is big in Utah and amongst Mormon women. Plastic surgery is huge in Utah. So they may be beautiful but it’s not all natural like they’d like you to think
I'm just starting the video but here's your like and your comment for the 1973 Chile joke.
I am amazed by the amount of ignorance, orvergeneralization and disrespect expressed in this video and comments section.
Bro dropped a "THE JEWS" way too casually
I remember noticing this. I feel like this is part of why a lot of Evangelical Christian women are photographers.
Mormonism is so wild.
yeah, it totally is. you should join.
@@christianlassen1577 I have a religion I actually believe in, you can't just switch if youre a true believer
Johnny Harris still being in the thumbnail after knowing that he’s not is a weird play
I grew up Mormon, everyone in my family is Mormon (except me), and I will say they all have this weird grindset with everything, some of the most productive people I know, they might be on to something ngl
I'm just here to find out how much (you know what) can fit in a Roomba. Beloved. :D
Man, that Chile joke caught me off guard 😂😂😂
as a queer person with a ex mormon dad, that last thing you said about your queer childhood friends broke my heart
This was a great video, I feel like you should have more followers
I appreciate that!
@@ImJustCarter I subscribed and look forward to seeing you grow 🫡
Interesting video. In my opinion there's nothing really wrong with them making content whether they say they're Mormon or not. I mean do people normally announce which religion/belief they are in every video they make? They're just...people, just like everyone else.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not Mormon and I've never even seen any of these videos. But I don't think a particularly big deal needs to be made about Mormons being influencers any more than anyone else being influencers. If you like those content creators, cool; if not, cool.
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I take back what I said: I now see why tiktok is getting perma'd in the US; that shit is cringe.
Yup. It's just propaganda and turmoil.
The rise in unrest is correlated with the rise of social media. It was fine at first because the older generations had NO idea how to use forums like Facebook/Twitter. Now that they do, they're mixing with the youngest generations like oil and water, both sides hate each other.
Pretty fucking wild if you think about it.
This video was like a fever dream where half of it made sense and half had an underlying tone of not making sense.
When you said “they’ve infiltrated all areas of TikTok” I was confused cause I havnt seen any of it but most of my fyp is gay people and Taylor swift fandom
As an exmo, i feel like the church’s focus on appearance (like people wont buy hot chocolate from starbucks bc the cup is still starbucks and looks like a coffee cup, so people might think you are drinking coffee) is a driving factor for why there are so many successful mormon influencers. You have 5 kids, sure, but your house is always neat and orderly and perfectly decorated because that means you are a good mom. You cook labor intensive meals from scratch (rotating out old food storage) because home cooked meals (properly blessed) mean you are a good mom. You send your 15 yr old son to church with home baked bread for the sacrament because that means you are a good mom and “where does she have time to bake with 5 kids?” Will get asked. It is all done (to an extent) because it makes it look perfect, and mormons love to strive for perfection - for the lord , of course. Appearance is everything (consciously or not) and these influencers get to show their “perfect life” off as indirect marketing for the prosperity gospel the church preaches.
don't confuse some superficial people with the whole church. most of us won't go to Starbucks just to avoid looking trendy.
Paul talked a lot about this in his letters to the ancient Christians. "hey guys, it's not technically bad to eat meat that's been sacrificed to other gods, but it's not a great look and just confuses most people, so, best to avoid it"
@@christianlassen1577 i’m not. The superficial, performative nature of the “perfection” is a feature, not a bug. Temples are built to exactness, kept perfectly clean. Missionaries are told “obedience brings blessings but exact obedience brings miracles.” Missionaries who come home early are stigmatized and looked down on, and god forbid someone not go on a mission. I know people who definitely did stuff before marriage with their spouse that would have precluded them from a temple marriage but the invites were sent and the plans were made, so they didnt say anything because if they postponed “everyone would know.” Hell, the conflict that drives the book/movie “Charlie” was that the dude didnt want “used merchandise.” When i wore blue shirts to church or didnt take the sacrament, i knew people thought about it. Utah has more boob jobs and plastic surgery than LA, second to Miami. Appearance, and the appearance of perfection, matters to mormons.
The scripture that you share just goes to that point. Its all about the appearance. There is no substance. As you rightly point out, it isnt all members. But it sure as hell is a lot of them.
That said
@@Materogringo "As you right pointed out, it isn't all members but it sure is a lot of them"
You have a statistic or percentage on that one? how much *should* it be? what's the threshold for judging how superficial a group is or isn't? how does that compare with outside the church? boob jobs isn't a great measure of that, there's a million ways to be superficial, most of them are a lot cheaper.
@@christianlassen1577 im sorry, i misspoke. Its all plastic surgery. And idk the stats, dude, i just lived there as a devout mormon for like 27 years or something and taught at byu. I will say in 8 years of teaching, i had more students in two years at byu beg for an A to keep perfect grades than in 6 years elsewhere.
I dont think you can measure vanity by statistic. But the utah mormon culture i know and lived was obsessed with image and appearance.
@@Materogringo Interesting what you say about how they keep their appearance very "shiny". Brandon Flowers has always struck me (in recent years at least, not at the beginning of the band) as trying very hard on his "perfect look". I mean, no other person has ever struck me as this "perfect looking" quite like him, his skin flawless, perfectly cut clothes and perfect haircut and very fake white teeth... It's almost eerie to me.
Bruh seeing that south african lady in the thumbnail gave me a lil whiplash but in context it makes a lotta sense
never heard of any of these people but after seeing this video it seems like mormons are killing it. I'm not religious but you make a compelling argument.
Mormons are some of the genuinely BEST people I’ve ever known.
I’m glad that has been your experience! If only we all only interacted with decent people.
Depends on who you are
My family's been friends with a Swedish mormon family for decades. They can be a bit weird, but they're good people. Known them my whole life
The whole trad wife trend might seem to be a dream for some but can turn into a nightmare real fast.
Its so crazy how much damage religion causes the society but we still have to keep "respecting" harmful beliefs for some reason.
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Islam doesn't
Religion has no damage on our society.
Me 3 minutes into this video like wow this guy looks so familiar before I realized it was Carter LMAO
Edit: hiiiiii carterrrrrrr
I hope you are doing good!
Not defending Mormon beliefs but you seem to have an abnormal amount of predujice. I studied mormonism briefly in college and attended a few services / interviewed some church members. They definately are cult-like in some recruitment aspects but they're much less harmful than average Christians... Much more open to diversity in general. I was shocked how diverse the church I went to was. Apparently the Mormon church did a lot of work after the Vietnam War trying to rebuild and help Vietnamese people (this is from an elderly Vietnamese man living in NC in 2015, never looked into it in detail) I don't think people that aren't defining themselves as Mormon in their content are acting maliciously, very few people make religion apart of their content unless it's a major aspect like lifestyle vlogs. Jerryrig, mark and others aren't prostylzing for mormonism in their content they just make content and are Mormon. I'd also say while the church is incredibly wealthy there are plenty of people struggling financially in the church you shouldn't discredit.
Harris left the church