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I was a photography major in college (well actually Fine Arts/Phtsics). Early on I purchased an RB67. Everyone else of course had 35mm gear. It was like magic. I rocketed ahead. Every shot was thoughtful. I learned to envisage what the print would be that I was going for. My prints were beautiful. I had learned a simplification of the zone system that I could do in my head. It made all the difference in my world.
I ended up as an electrical engineer but just now I am retired and I will be searching for a nice used RB67 (and the hand grip). I cannot wait. Might even set up a darkroom again.
I bought my RB67 with the 127mm in 1972. I stumbled into some way of buying it from an exporter in Japan, new for $490. It came in a box with labels on the outside claiming the box contained automotive parts.
Interesting take.
My understanding is that the RZ67 can be used as a mechanical camera with RB lenses. They will fire at all shutter speeds without a battery.
In fact two of the three lenses I own are RB lenses precisely in case the electronics break. The only RZ I have is the 110mm.
I have commented before how I bought the rz67 in the 90’s and thought that it would be my main shooter for everything.
After about a year it became the studio queen. The mamiya 645 and Nikon f5 became my everyday shooters.
But in the studio there was nothing better. Mount it in a heavy solid tripod, three lights etc. Not only was it a lot of fun, it was profitable.
The 90’s were the pinnacle of film photography.
I love your arm mount I would have loved that setup.
Have had a RB for 10 years. Started with pre C or C lenses, pro s backs. Now, all that is original is the body and wlf. Pro sd backs, Kl lenses. It is my favorite camera of a dozen followed by the f6 and 645 pro tl. I agree on the fast 50 mm equiv. I rarely use 50 mm in 35 mm full frame. For portraits it is a bit too short, putting me 4' for a head and shoulders. The 127 is wonderful for walk abouts. Not too long but long enough wide open has nice oof background. And for walkabouts listened to folks who said you need to carry it in a back pack. Bull shat. I discovered, with the op tech strap worn cross body, the body takes up some of the weight, lightly supporting it with your R hand or pressing it against the R hip makes it light enough for a 3 hour walk. The quality of the negatives are stunning. After 3 hours with it, the following day I carried a nikon f6 on a black rapid strap and it seemed weightless in comparison. Talk about practicing with a heavy bat! But what this camera brings is a major change from a dslr I have used for 20 years... it's FUN. And before I leave, I have the choice of 35 mm film modern or vintage, 645 with elf or wlf, power winder or not, rb with choice of lenses. And then which film stocks to use. It's like the difference between tennis and golf. In tennis every court is exactly the same. In golf, even if you are playing on the smae course, you never hit from the same spot twice. Way more challenging and more fun than digital.
I’ve been close to selling my RB67 but after watching this video, I think I’ll keep it as my portrait/studio setup (not that I have a studio). Thanks for the video.
I don’t own the RB67, but I would keep it if it were me. I own the Bronica SQ system and really can’t afford to move into the RB67 system, but I would if I could afford it.
Sold mine. No regrets.
Great format, I think it's so much more useful to hear this than why x is the best y. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome video!!! I feel a lot of what you do ... I have a Mamiya RB67 and love the mechanical aspect of it .... oddly enough I have been using my Yashicamat 124G more than anything else lately ... it was my first medium format camera in 1978/79 ( got it on Christmas break from college) ... it still is a joy to use and I agree that an electronic medium format camera is scary!!!
I will take my RB67 Pro SD system to my grave. I use it for portrait work, studio bases, but mostly hand held. I agree, the macro 140mm makes for a fantastic portrait lens, I also that the 150mm SF with the inserts if i want to get creative.
I also have a Hassie system, but mostly for decoration these days, and for outdoor I use the Bronica ETRSi system.
I kept my RB for exactly the same reason. Simplicity, reliability and fix-ability. It does everything I need it to do.
The bellows are the reason I love my Mamiya C220. Soooooo good!!
Loved using the rb when I had it. Then I used a c330! And I know it's square, but I just love everything about it. Great great camera.
sl66.. has it all in one. close up (bellow, macro reverse lens), zeiss glas, no electronics.. lens shift and cheap.
Have had a few, not a fan of 6x6 for portraits and both of mine broke for no apparent reason.
@@NicosPhotographyShow Thousands of tiny parts... almost like clockwork. I bought mine overhauled from a Rollei service specialist here in Switzerland. He has many spare parts in his workshop and convinced me to offer service for it in the future. If you still have a 40- or 50mm which you no longer need, let me know ;-)
I got my RB67 Pro-s literally a week ago, this pleases me...😁 I bought it after struggling for a year with my 645 Super and the mirror stop and I think I'm done with it. The RB feels amazing.
RB67 PRO SD is king. Very underrated in my opinion. Thanks to the RUclips/Instagram hype with the RZ. The Pro SD is essentially the RZ without the electrical bits. Especially having the option to shoot both K/l or C lenses is awesome. I don’t think it’s widely known that the k/l lenses are equally as good as the RZ “Z” lenses and I’m okay with that 😆. Again thanks to social media hype. Plus you can get a 645 back…awesome. However I wish they had a 6x6 back for the RB. Anyways, great video. It’s refreshing to see someone talk about gear that has had years of experience with all types of gear.
My RB67 is my main camera, I use either my 127mm or 90mm, I had considered the RZ first but glad I went mechanical. I mainly shoot portraits so for me, it’s perfect.
I’ve got an rb67 with the 127kl it is my favourite for portraiture. Old reliable
Great video. Thank-you for posting. I wonder whether you still have your Rolleiflex 6008? Do you have any views on how the sharpness of the 80mm lens on the Rolleiflex compares to the Mamiya 110mm? Cheers from Canada.
I had a RB67. LOVED the look from photos with it. But it was a titanic. Just too big and heavy for my old body. So I moved to the Mamiya 645super. So glad I did not back out of 120 film as it gives you so much negative to play with. By far the images from this camera for the last year are my favorites... Film has it's own look, so even if I DO have 2 very high quality mirrorless digital camera, I still prefer film shots from the 645. Great video Nico. You rock.
I used the RZ67 pro II for nearly 25 years. I'm in the Hassy/Phase One camp now. I still miss it, I used to handhold it sometimes with the Profoto ring on it (with reflector!!!)
The fire hydrants comment had me in tears 😂
Hi, Nico. Thanks for such a great video. Is there any medium format film system/brand that you would consider reliable enough to still be used nowadays? I mean without taking the hassle of constant visits to the repair service. And another one (sorry), is there any brand that is more easily repairable than the others? I’m talking not so much about repair prices but more about the likelihood of getting it repaired successfully and back on track. Thanks in advance.
I’m sure the RZ can be used mechanically with the older K/L lenses - if the electronics go bad, or the battery is dead you just lose the dark slide warning, AE finder functionality, and ability to use the newer lenses (apart from a fixed speed). Might be other issues I’ve forgotten, but I’m sure it’s basically usable with the older lenses. 👍
Nico, can you recommend the 150 for the Mamiya 7 for portraits ? I have the 80 so far which I love, but thinking about getting the 150 for travel.
I used a Pentax 67 with a 55mm f4 lens and a Pentax 6x7 with a 75mm f4.5 lens for years. I sold them both when the prices soared.
I always wanted to try an Mamiya Rz.
I use a 4x5 now with a Schneider 135mm 4.7 lens.
For portraits I use it with a 6x9 rollfilm back. Perfect.
I currently have an RB67 Pro SD I use a few times a year. So I like that it doesn't need a battery and the back doesn't have foam gaskets to wear out. Prior to the RB I had a Bronica 6x7, Mamiya RZ67 and a Pentax 67. My favorite all-around and easiest to hand-hold 6x7 was the Bronica. Sadly, it's gotten so hard to find alternate focusing screens, film inserts and other accesories for the Bronica GS-1 now that I don't consider it a viable option any more.
That's why I went with the RB, my RB 67 Pro SD is on it's 10th year with me now and never any problems, get a Pro SD back (no foam seals), for lightweight photo I use a Flexaret 6x6 TLR, amazing little machine and very cheap.
Oh yes, the bay of Biskay between Bilbao and San Sebastián is my favorite place in Spain!
Interesting that close focus is such a big deal for you as it would mean you shoot a lot of portraits with a normal lens instead of a portrait lens (usually a bit more flattering).
RB for me. Quality tends to be heavy. Love the 50mm lens. Thanks, always enjoy your channel.
I sold my RB67 at the top of the year to cover a debt and instantly regretted it. Literally the only camera that gives you the handheld 4x5 feeling outside of a Graflox. I gotta get one again.
Have You ever tried Mamiya C330? If You are talking about shooting in square, this is the best camera for portraits! It has bellow, very short focusing distance (about 15cm), f2.8 light
If you forget the RB's silly prisms, and just put on normal lens, the thing is very beautifully balances in one's hand, and suits for outings indeed. The very weight is contributing greatly to elimination of shakes hand held with longer exposures.
I shoot mine with a WLF and a 90mm and it's still incredibly unwieldy compared to my yashica-mat or Leica M4.
@@imjasonennis3624 Depends on the hands and general body constitution obviously. A good strap is a plus..But yeah, the beast is heavy!
Just curious if you still own your Hasselblad? Interesting video.
The reason you give for wanting to part with the RZ is the exact reason I went with the RB five years ago. I feared the electronics failing and the RZ was selling for more. I believe I made the right choice.
I am considering getting a RB67 Pro SD. I have heard that KL lenses are prone to fogging. From your experience, is that true??
Personal question: What led you to move to Finland? Thanks!
I have kept my Bronica ETRSi setup & Yashica 124G for all Medium format stuff I do. Both light weight (for me) and easy to use out and about. The Bronica works with my studio off camera flash setup and that's is. The rest have been turned into cash to buy more film 🙂
Digital is Canon R6 plus a mix of EF and RF glass but keeping my eye on how affordable digital MF cameras pan out.
I think the RB is a good choice - my Hasseblad goes in the vehicle with me when I am out and about (but a 35mm if I'm walking around) but the RB67 is a great portrait camera - have had one with a few lenses for quite a while -add a film back for each film I use and its all set. It's a big negative I find better for full length portraits with a little less "waste" image on the sides than the 6x6 - I can fire my modern flash controllers with a sync cord - what more can you want
I avoided the RZ specifically to avoid electronics - too many stories about any old electronics failing eventually - the Nikon F3 is my only film camera with electronics -
one way of getting close and having 6x7 and being a 'lite' system, try the Mamiya press/universal, you can add a 6x7 magasine onto it, and it is very light, as compared to the RZ67 and RB67 at least; it is a rangefinder, But unlike a linhof, Toyo, or other field camera in the large format genre, this uses barrell focussing like a 35 mm slr lens, so no weight penalty for an 'optical bench' system to mount and focus the lens. ( one other boon for it, is that this IS used for close-up work, in the guise of passport photos, it was used with the 100/127/ 250 lens, can't remember which, but with a 4 shot prism contraption on the front, made 4 images a frame of film).
Thoughtful as usual. You didn't ask, but I did the math anyway. 6 x 7 is approximately, 4.3 x 5, just wider than 4 x 5. 645 is also close, but a tad narrower than the LF: about 3.75 x 5, enlarging to 10.5 x 14.
Me trying not to rush and buy a medium format camera till the end of the year
Nico: Heeeere it is my medium format portrait kit
Anyway, still trying to find my preferred lens for portrait in 35....
Great video by the way
The main reason for f2.8 on medium format SLRs is to support a bright viewfinder screen. Head portraits (aka close up portraits) can't really be done with 6x7 at f2.8, because if you focus at the eyes, the tip of the nose and the ears will be out of focus already.
I personally use medium format for everything but portraits, I use large format for portraits (5x7 outside, 11x14 in my home set-up).
If you're looking for a 127 KL on the RB watch out for the rear elements being hazy with backlighting. It happens quite a lot and I took mine out and baked the cemented pair in an oven (yes I know but last resort as every one I looked at buying had the same issue) It melts the cement and let's it set clear. 3-4 times about 180C for about an hour at a time. With cost of energy now it's probably cheaper to buy a new one! Don't move it when you're letting it cool between cooks, make sure the two elements are parallel afterwards.
I actually didn't know about the pro models going extinct if it goes bad. Gives me some reassurance about my non pro model, especially for something that is still electronic.
I used the RB-67 in my studio for years but hated that funny not quite 6x7 format. I recently got an RZ-67 kit which had the Mamiya Pro II Polaroid back. Being retired I acn't afford the outrageous prices for the Fuji color film but for the life of me I can't find out what kind of Polaroid film was originally used in it? Any ideas?
The original peel apart was Polaroid 667 or 669 and others. But they got discontinued when Polaroid when down and never brought back by them. Now you have expired Fuji FP100C and the One Instant project.
@@NicosPhotographyShow Thanks for that
I totally agree with getting rid of older stuff that no longer fits where you are in your photographic journey, or at least remove the batteries, vacuum seal it and store it away for grandkids to find 50 years from now.
But I gotta say, selling an RZ67 Pro-II may come with some seller's remorse down the road. I've been shooting one for years and have never had an issue. I can't recall seeing any blog post or video proclaiming widespread issues with the RZ67 bricking. But the Internet is replete with vids and posts of people saying something to the tune of "I really regret selling my RZ..."
On the subject of camera reliability. It would be useful to the consumer if reliability and the most common failure modes were public. I'm sure repair/retail companies have this data. We the could mark our purchase choices based on GAS to reliable ration. I'm betting GAS would win out in many cases.
Necesitamos que alguna compañia comienze a vender camaras medium format. Yo tengo mi pentax 6x7 MLU y estoy tratando de comprar otra. Es triste que llegara el dia que estas camaras no tengan mas piezas o puedan ser reparadas.
I am hearing alot of people selling their analogue cameras with electronics. The RB is becoming the popular choice for the Mamiya 67 system. The same problems can be found with the Bronica SQ, ETR and GS-1 cameras. The Bronica S2 and S2A is a mechanical camera, however the S2 is known to have issues with the weaker gears breaking. The S2A has the improved gearing, however they are supposedly complicated to repair and the foam seals go bad causing issues with focusing. I don’t think many techs will work on a Bronica S2 and S2A.
The best choices now for mechanical medium format are Hasselblad 500 series, Mamiya RB67, Rolleiflex and YashicaMat 124(G) etc.
I know of people that have sold off their Nikon F3, F4 and F5 due to the electronics. They are using the Nikon F, F2 and FM instead.
I personally own the Mamiya C220 and C330 and the Bronica SQ. My local camera shop said they can repair the mechanical Mamiya C220 and C330 but not the Bronica SQ due to electronics. He said there are no new boards available and most old boards are prone to failure. I am fortunate that my Bronica SQ is still working, but never know for how long.
I only buy and use MMM (Metal, Mechanic, Manual) cameras. The most electric I am willing to accept in a camera is a TTL light-meter. I'm actually looking for good Konica Pearl IV to trade for my Fuji GS645pro.
I CLA and repair my cameras myself, but I don't touch circuit boards or flex-cables. Changing mercury battery energy supply for modern 1.5V batteries the one and only thing I take a soldering iron in my hands to use on a camera.
By pure chance I was browsing my collection of scanned photos and it is painful to realize that I've probably shot better photos when I had less, and less advanced/expensive, cameras/lenses.
"Sorry ladies, I'm a bellows guy."
Spoiler Alert - Nico is really into bellows 8:39 👌🏻
thank Nico, now RB prices are going to become even more ridiculous, heavy sigh. From someone who has one camera 4x5 linhof kardan color, that sits on a tripod in my studio, and I would love a 6x7 Mamiya
I feel it's kind of a sin to never shoot the 110 wide open! To each their own though, so indeed it makes a LOT more sense to get an RB67 in your case.
The GX680 would suit you well, too, except for the fact that it's electronic. But it has a lot of features that would surely suit you well. But I'm sure you already know this ;-)
Cute kids 😁😁😁
Yo me quedo con mi Nikon retroplasticosa y un 50mm. Eso para todo, porque cuanto más equipo tenga, menos pienso en la foto.
Y esa Mamiya con el visor con pentaprisma está muy bien.
I got into film photography 4 years ago with 35mm and started shooting 120 last year. Been lusting over Hasselblad and mamiya cameras for a while now but I am quite afraid of dumping a lot of money into a very old camera system that can break on you any moment. It doesn’t worry me as much yet with 35mm as nikon film bodies are still quite affordable. But the proposition of having a 1500€ plus medium format camera bricking on me is nerve wrecking for someone not having lots of money. Think I will stick to my TLR for 120. As nice as these cameras are they are getting too expensive for me as a hobby photographer to realistically own and use….
selling my rb67 pro sd with 50mm f4.5 (24mm in 35mm) for a really good price if you’re interested:)
The TLR is a great camera for medium format. There are Mamiya C220s and C330s and could probably build a system with a body, a couple of lenses for less than 1,000.00 and they are mechanical and still repairable.
If you own a car, you have a lot more to worry about. It will depreciate as soon as it's off the lot, any repairs are going to cost you as much as your camera kit most likely..... If the camera scratches an itch.... be brave and take the plunge.... you only have one life, enjoy it.
@@extremelydave Old comment but I went full YOLO and bought a nice Mamiya RB67 pro S kit with lenses, prism and Pro SD film backs. Absolutly lovley camera, much prefer it for portraits to the TLR. Still in the honeymoon phase but it's a lovley piece of kit and brings me joy when I use it. A foolish desicion perhaps but I don't regret it :)
Always knew I was in great company - Jobo - RB67 …….
RB67 is way too big for most people; impossible to travel with haha
Thats why it will live in my studio on a tripod ;)
ja it is true. Last year i visited my son in Scotland and had problems at customer checked, because of my love names RB 67. Officer wanted to open my in safty bag wraped RB. He react on my nervous reaction. He was to careless unwrapping it, and i couldnt be shout up. My wife said, come down everything will be OK. I told him it is camera, but he did not believe me because it is too big and to wrapped. Ok then it is a bomb a said. Hm, then problem started hahahha. Well, i wanted to sell it but i just couldnt give it away. It is perfect for many reasons. But one thing is for sure; it is not for speed photography and always got to use tripod. It is perfect for art an i use it mostly for BW film photography, which i developed by myself and enlarge on FB paper. The best one hangs on my walls. For colour photography and daily family shooting, i mostly use mobile pohone camera which is good enough to print up to 30x40 or social / computer media.
If only the pentax67 was fully mechanical. If only.
But I love taking pictures of fire hydrants 😢
Nobody stops you, I love some too, but sometimes its too many fire hydrants, at least for me.
@@NicosPhotographyShow I have to photograph them for my dog. You understand, right?
Dogs need that art.
Mamiyapress ?
Shush, Lets keep the prices down on probably the best 120 camera ever made. That 6x9 negative is great.
Thanks for a very nice video. I think your talent deserves a better film like BwXX and a camera that meters better. I have never used a Trip 35 so I don't know how good they meter when they work as they should, but maybe the selenium cell of it is loosing sensitivity. Looking forward to see more photos, both bw and colour.
Don’t waste your money getting the mackro-planar 120mm btw, it’s not
RB > RZ
Plsss that was too specific at 3:27 😭
Wait until your kids are teenagers. They won’t want to be photographed any more 😢