You all probably dont care at all but does someone know of a method to get back into an Instagram account? I was dumb forgot the password. I love any help you can offer me
As a FPV noob I'd love videos like this on entry level good equipment, so as to know the whole package I'd have to buy to get started, without paying over $200 in any single item. Thanks!
Idk if u got your stuff but 200 isn’t enough. Your best bet is to get the betafpv controller cheap 50 dollar goggles (pls try getting something better like ev800d). For the quad it leaves you around 100 so. I recommend getting a tiny drone that can do acro for under 100 and dump the rest into extra batteries.
I have this radio one month ago and it changed my visión completely... little, light, all standard features than a normal user needs, with possibility for TBS module... And cheap.. Very cheap but with decent quality... Is true.. A diode for battery inverted protection is important... But is it a problem for us...??? Yes is true that is not a Tango or other "se mi-premium" radio. .. And in the other side if it drops by accident from 7th floor or to the lake is not neccesary an "harakiri".. Is cheap and has a place in my bag... Thank you for your videos...Best wishes from Spain.
Just installed EdgeTX 2.9.0 and Express LRS 3.3.0 on my Jumper T-Lite ELRS. And it does basically everything I could ask of any radio even at three times the cost. Very happy with mine.
A quick, cheap & easy source of 18650 cells for this sort of application is USB powerbanks. Poundland here in the UK sell £1 powerbanks containing a 1200mAh 18650 cell, and £2 ones contain a 2200mAh 18650 cell. They both have spot welded tabs on which you can solder wires directly to, or rip the tabs off and use them as loose cells. The charging/5v output circuitboard in them can be useful too, I combined a £2 powerbank with a £1 COB LED head torch from there with a custom 3D print into a USB rechargeable head torch which has about 4 hours runtime.
If anyone is debating between this and the cheaper BetaFPV LiteRadio 2, I highly recommend spending the extra money for this. My LiteRadio 2 worked great for about 2 weeks, then the connections to the potentiometer broke inside and made it basically unflyable.
I"m Whereverimayroam, and I'm gonna learn 5 or 6 somethings today because I can't stop watching these videos one after the other after the other after.......
Have been looking forward to a review of this by you to see if I can finally move on from my trusty turnigy evolution without having to bin all the receivers!
Haha. Yeah, I just upgraded to the radio master from the evolution about 3 months ago because I wanted crossfire capability. Hope I don't regret it by the end of this video. I really like the radiomaster, but miss the evolution form factor, though not as much as I thought I would.
I thought game pad style controller would suite me as well especially comping from gaming on Xbox for a better part of my life but I tried and it was superrr weird (I’m a pinched though when flying) and I went with tx16s. Such a good radio.
TX16S is a much better & more capable radio if it fits in your budget. Literally the only downside is it's a standard big radio, so if you want something smaller then a gamepad-style one would be easier. ( I do have a big radio, and want to get a smaller one, but have yet to see a gamepad-style one with enough features for me to want to switch.)
My DX7s is getting old so I figured I'd grab one of these as either a supplement for micros and non-spektrum stuff or to replace it. After using it a bit I think I like it well enough to sell my DX7s on Ebay, where the current prices for DX7s is insanely over $100.
Thx JB! I too have kicked Frsky to the curb. Even after buying a Horus some years ago. I have a RM TX16s with a TBS crossfire module. I am slowly moving my receivers over. 5 down and about 7 more to go.
I just picked up my first radio and I went with the radio master TX12 over the t-lite. The TX12 was about $25 more, but being crossfire ready was what sold me.
It is a fair point; however, as a beginner, you've got a better option. RadioMaster tx12 is a really nice, ergonomic and small radio for very reasonable money. And It is available now.
@@Igor-eo1kd agree. Tx12 is currently another option for beginners. I’m loving my tx12. But compared to t-lite, it falls short at some points. Tx12 doesn’t come with hall sensor gimbals 😅 t-lite does. Tx12 comes with 1in1 multiprotocol module, while we can opt for the 4in1 with t-lite 🙂
@@EndiHamid to be fair I put the hall sensor gimbals in mine and it is now amazing !! You should try it if you enjoy the radio as it costs next to nothing :)
@@kirbyfpv1969 I know 😉 I already did. Got myself a pair of jumper hall sensor gimbals few weeks ago and put them on my tx12, they fit perfectly! And now tx12 is really a cool tx! Altough I still wish it came with the 4in1 module 😂 but that's alright, I love it anyway 🙂
I really considerd this radio..just starting out .came across the 9xd turnigy .bought it used ,and the external module is the mxt 90 that will only ppm . the thing will bind to my old echine copters but not hubsan or my new echines..im new to all this so i was thinking of this radio or buying a new 4-1 mode for the 9xd
I like the disclaimer that although it is a decent to radio there's a good chance that jumper will release another one or the fact that radio Master could possibly release one. I have the t16 and really want the t16s or even the radio Master .. Thanks for all you do MR. Bardwell
I was really interested in this radio when it was first announced. Im SO GLAD i waited! Honestly, there is just way too many problems. I mean the entire battery and power situation is a flat out dealbreaker. Thank you JB!
@Moody fpv to just toss around in a bag instead of carrying a giant radio, there is really no better. And besides, if you going to fly more then 250mv better use a more proper full size radio. So far I have 0 complains about the t-lite (no long term, because it just came out) even if they come up with a version 2 in a year or so.
Hey JB, you might recognize my name since I've been harping on you for this review over the last couple of streams you've done! First off, thank you so much for the review, and all your excellent content for that matter. Hopefully the super chats and Patreon subscription help offset the bother! :D I've watched every single T-Lite video on YT and was just waiting for yours as I value your opinion above any else's on YT. I ended up buying this radio (using your affiliate link!) as it seems the negatives will be a non issue for the reason I bought it for. I got it for my wife, who is 5'3" and has very thin fingers and petite hands, so the ergonomics should actually fit her quite well. It'll be her first radio and she'll primarily be flying RC planes LOS, so range issues are not a concern. She'll also need it for simulator work and buddy boxing with me and my TX16S (bought on your recommendation, using your affiliate link!). Anyway, I presume it'll work great for us! PS - My theory on Jumper not every releasing a "perfect" version one of their products is due to Radiomaster. RM has been releasing near identical products to Jumper and doing it much better, IMO. That must make Jumper feel like they have to get products to market ASAP in order to get all the sales possible before RM releases a better version!
Hey there, I got the T-Lite as well and have no idea how to set it up to use as a controller on PC. All I get when I plug it into my Win 10 computer is 'STM32 bootloader.' Got any ideas? Also, I'm building my first drone and am now trying to bind it to the FrSky R-XSR receiver, but I don't think I've succeeded just yet, though I think I have the rest of the settings down in the Mode I set up.
@@TheApostateTapir oh yeah, I saw that after actually turning on the radio, ha. So now it's recognized but now I'll have to mess with the configuration stuff in RDS.
I ABSOLUTELY COULDN'T WAIT FOR J B TO REVIEW THIS RADIO!!!!🤣....I saw a yt video the other day where a guy named stylesuxx did a review and he pointed out some things that were a little concerning....a very bad voltage sag and binding issues as well as gimbal readings were all over the place....now I'm not a pro I'm just starting out in fpv but even I felt something was wrong lol he may have had a bad radio or a bad meter however it still makes you go hmmmmmm🤔 that on top of the things Jb pointed out really helped make up my mind on whether I'm going with this or the tango I'm a gamer so I definitely want a game style radio....if it weren't for JB's content I would probably be flying a paper clip with a rubber band with popsicle sticks! I knew nothing about this hobby but now I am a padawan👍✌
There's a reason the xlite originally used 2 18500 cells its very difficult to build a radio that can function off a single 18650 cell reliably. A protection diode would just exacerbate the problem even a Schottky diode has few tenths of a volt voltage drop. The primary focus of this design was to as compact as possible radio that can do multiprotocol. In this regard there are virtually zero compromises. Adding the crossfire bay also is a great extra bonus with compromises that can be worked around until you can afford a more substantial radio.
@@TheHenne17 That's strange. Mine charges internally too. I use a Sony 3000mAh. Plugged into USB, the power LED stays on while charging, then goes out when it's fully charged.
i realy would like to know where im wrong.. in the low pricepoint you dont use crossfire if you want to spent more bugs for better you can although go FULL DJI so crossfire is actualy only for the ppl who allready have stuff running on it so the crossfire option is only for the ppl who are a long time into the hobby while its completly obsolet with the newer better dji system (except if your racing professionaly??)
I am never gonna buy a game style controller neither T-lite... I still watched the whole video just because I enjoy seeing him talking on stuffs hahaha..
you're a prophet, it does indeed have hw issues. i really liked mine at first, but it developed a permanent "key stuck" error on the SECOND day. :D turns out it's very common, and requires actual soldering skills to remove a tiny capacitor without damaging anything, so for now I'm stuck with a useless controller
late to the party, but dress it in a silicon cover and it's the perfect aeroplane radio for small dlg and park flyers - feels good in the hand, and way light to hold
AngryPepper here, another great job Joshua, well I did buy this as my first as at the time I couldn’t afford the Radio Master. I guess it’s not the worst, but I will checkout your radio roundup to make my final choice.I do want Crossfire eventually but I don’t think I’ll buy for this one anyway. Since I’ve just started in fpv I know I want some of those tiny whoops and this should be a decent size and protocol for at least those.
Bought it in December and still waiting for it, ah.. reviewers powers! You got 2 for feee 😁 I have a radiomaster already but I wanted something to bring with me on holiday;)
I fly and love my X-Lite, but I never switched to the ACCESS PROTOCOL I've stuck with the ACCST PROTOCOL because I do fly whoops and in D8 which as we all know is absent from the Acces Protocol. I'm a pincher aswell and I find it perfectly comfortable.
for germany 25mW is the allowed maximun. if you compare for example frsky to crossfire it's still a big step up using 25mW with crossfire. (that probably counts for whole eu).
If your looking to use crossfire and have a controller you can still use for everthing your better off getting a tango 2 and add a multi module then you would be getting this controller and adding a crossfire module in my opinion considering the price isn't that much of a difference in my opinion but that being said this controller still seems like a great option for someone not looking to use crossfire.
I don't know why you keep recommending the betafpv literadio2. tone of issues with gimbals for it over the forums and personally my roll gimbal starts getting glitchy after few uses on the sim.
Just getting into FPV and have several whoops. Thought this would be great for using with a simulator to practice on before I move on to a 3inch. So I just ordered one :)
I've bought it and it eventually arrived (there's another comment of me waiting..) and I had to fix it 3 times already. The gimbals are connected with 3 thin wires, and those are keeping detaching. I'm not confident flying with it at the moment, I will check at some point if there's a way to keep the damn cables in place, maybe a drop of glue but for now I can't trust it.
I like how you say you don't receive monetary compensation for your review but you get a lot of free shit,(I'm jealous) lucky guy not trying to knock you down you've helped me out so many times keep up the good work. And I know it takes a lot of work to be posting videos every day takes time away from family thank you for all your hard work.......
HELP: I have a tinyhawk 2 freestyle. What is the best game pad style , no fuss radio to get to bind with this specific quad ? I keep hearing about d8 compatibility? Is there game pad style that works with d8? PLEASE HELP....
I fly a TH2 and a TH2 freestyle with this radio (the 4-in-1 version) in D8 mode and it works great! You can use most opentx videos on how to bind the tiny hawk with it.
im happy there is no diode in place, it would reduce the voltage and since its 1S it would be more dramatic as on 2S or more. the voltage drop over a diode is something about 0.2V at BEST, that would mean radio does not stop at 3.5V but at 3.7 or 3.8, than you would loose 50% or more of the capacity. maybe a mosfet as polarity protection
my Jumper t16 pro is awesome, the Gen 1 DX8 Spektrum brill, the original DX6i is phenomenal for its time and power(US mode) I'd would still recommend it! the turnigy evo pro game style is a great joypad style tx fow Kwads the TGY i6 is superb and like most turnigy cheap tx and rx, good range (better than you can see unaided), the xlite is brilliant (put a tbs crossfire in epic), dx9 is superb, IX12 is good but a pain in the feckink ass (cost vs benefit I regret buying it although it is good) and the turnigy tgy 10 is a seriously underrated radio, its cheap cheerful large lcd touch screen great range, once you've mastered programing it it's fantastic, great range, can use the turnigy evo rx's. I have all the radios mentioned yes i have a problem...
My first radio was the radiomaster tx16s but it was defective sent it back and raceday quads didn’t have any in stock so I got a jumper t18 so good so far but I really wanted the tango 2pro but I didn’t want to wait
I like it. But since I have two of the BetaFPV Lite Transmitters with two different protocols, I think I'll hold out until I'm ready for a Teranis. Nice features no doubt.
I switched from the IR8M to the TX18S and I do prefer the bigger "game controller" style of radio. The TX18S is great with OpenTX, the IR8M runs DeviationTX (altho the board should be able to run OpenTX).
Which Frsky Receivers does the Jumper T-lite JP4in1 work with without and extra module?: R9M, XM+, and R-XSR? (All it says is CC2500) Thanks for your help.
@@RPiao dude the battery cost like 12 bucks and you can charge the battery through the radio. this thing is much better than the lite radio 2 se. Also the lite radio doesnt even run opentx anymore. Also sd card not needed right away.
@@dittyfpv7615 Yeah, I understand all that. I was just trying to be a nice person to tell him that it wasn't a bad decision. Just wanna make him feel better about his choice. That is all. Personally, I did spend $30 on chargers and extra batteries.
I need to replace my BetaFPV LiteRadio 2 that came with my Advanced Kit 2 due to stick jitter. I am thinking about getting the T-Lite to replace it. I wouldn't recommend the LiteRadio 2 to anyone. Mine had problems right out of the box. Would the T-Lite fit in the BetaFPV case?
Sorry, a bit on the late side, but for anyone else, I made the same replacement and am pretty happy so far. It does fit perfectly in the case (with the antenna removed) and has none of the jittery gimbal issues I also had with the LiteRadio 2. A big relief, because if you've only ever used one radio you can't be sure if it's you or the radio. My T-lite is much better (smoother), even in the simulator. I also wouldn't recommend the LiteRadio as it can spoil the experience for a beginner.
I have used a Jumper T-Lite transmitter multi-protocol for 1.5years, and often fly drones with/without my friends. In general, I feel that transmission distance is shorter. For example; - happymodel Mobula6 1s loses the signal around 15-25m without obstacles. FrSky binding.(but expect to reach around 150m) . max RSSI is 75, not 99, strange. - BetaFPV micro drone 2s (forgot model) loses the signal around 50m.FrSky binding (but expect to reach around 400m) - I have a free style FPV drones (iFlight and gepRC) with air-unit with FrSky XM+. They lose the signal around 1km. (but expect to reach around 2km) - In general, I found city sides have radio interfere, and a huge parks without people kinda better, but not significant range improvement. Does anyone know this is normal transmission range or too short and something wrong with my T-lite? I hope T-lite has booster option or may just change antenna simply, instead of installing additional kits.
would be interesting to see how these new gamepad style radios compare to the old frksy xlite and flysky Nirvana which both are capable of running edgetx...
At least part of the reason they didn't install a reverse polarity protection diode is because a diode drops around .7 volts across it when forward biased. If they used one, then when your transmitter battery was at 4 volts, you would actually be down to 3.2 volts after going through the diode. With 1s power, you just can't afford that big of a voltage drop.
There absolutely are ways of implementing reverse polarity protection without passing the current through a diode and suffering voltage drop. Here's a page describing how to work around this issue: components101.com/articles/design-guide-pmos-mosfet-for-reverse-voltage-polarity-protection
@@JoshuaBardwell Yes, there absolutely are ways of implementing reverse polarity protection such as using a MOSFET as in the link you provided, but in the video you were asking why they didn't just "put in a diode," and THAT'S what I was responding to. But you are correct, there are other ways to do it, but inserting a diode is not practical for the reasons I mentioned.
About traditional radios vs game style radios, don't worry, Joshua... I hate everything equally. 😬 (Just kidding! 😂) Fantastic review! Thanks a lot! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I don’t need this, don’t want it, and probably wouldn’t even recommend it to a friend.. but there’s this part of me that just likes to watch bardwell talk about stuff so here I am 🙂
If my tx16 isn't laying in my lap it's on the hood of my truck... I'm a hybrid pinch kind of guy and I watch the whole damn thing. I'm actually considering this radio to transplant the guts into an old-school Futaba box transmitter. I need a gutshot Joshua Bardwell ! (i wonder why i can't tag u)
But you don't need eve 8 gig. The amount of storage required is about 2 gig, maybe a bit more if you want to have a lot of model images. So just get the cheapest one you can find.
I'm waiting for another manufacturer to do it better. I bet it won't be long until the clones come out. 😎👍 The Tango 2 uses push buttons instead of these toggle switches, which is a hugely better idea. There's barely any room for your fingers if you're a hybrid pincher or maybe for a thumber too, I don't know about flying that way. Also too easy to flip switches accidentally with them so close together. I also don't like it being a 1s battery radio. That was a huge design flaw, especially when using a Crossfire module. I wouldn't feel confident flying a long distance with just one 18650 when using a higher power with the Crossfire module. They should have either used two 18650's or a small 2s lipo. To add to that, the screw on module bay seems to be an after thought instead of something nice with grooves to slide into or a bay that's built in, for the module. I think that looks cheap and fragile. Some company will do it better, with more quality than Jumper uses, so I'm not buying this poor design. 🤔😕
This looks like my next radio, really wish it had at least one knob on it so I can tilt the camera up & down, I guess I could setup a 3 position switch, wonder if I could add a potentiometer or encoder...
The only thing keeping me away from this radio is the quality control issues at Jumper (or that's been said, never tested it myself). Looks like a better option would be the Radiomaster TX12 (if I can find a dealer that ships it cheaply haha).
@@JoshuaBardwell Yes, you could use a high amp diode with a user replaceable fuse. But your suggestion to use a spring on the negative is great. Not only would that cure the loose battery but the spring on the negative is almost universally recognizable as the minus. Although maybe 2s 18650 would enable the use of a MOSFET to protect the circuit so no fuse would blow. Also cure the power limit on the external module. OR a resettable fuse before the diode. Lots of solutions :) Thanks for the video and I'll be sure watch your review of the RadioMaster when it releases.
This seems like a okay entry level radio, but my frsky xlite pro still seems better all the way around, from gimbals to ergonomics to build quality. Plus my easy to use actually designed for it crossfire jrlite module works great, and if I wanna fly d8 or d16 instead of access, my 20 dollar xjt module works perfectly. :)
I really like this controller, and I have been flying for years! I have small hands though, but the ergonomics are good for small handed people. 250mw is also fine for me, as it will give a few KM range anyways...outlasting my video link.
Here's a very random non-FPV question; can it be held securely with one hand? I also use gamepad style controllers to drive my R2-D2, but occasionally need to hide the controller from public view. So I drive with the right stick, and set everything else to auto.
Haha I don’t wear a neck strap to balance the radio, I use it to keep my slow self from dropping it 😂
You all probably dont care at all but does someone know of a method to get back into an Instagram account?
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@Markus Fletcher Instablaster =)
As a FPV noob I'd love videos like this on entry level good equipment, so as to know the whole package I'd have to buy to get started, without paying over $200 in any single item.
Thanks!
Idk if u got your stuff but 200 isn’t enough. Your best bet is to get the betafpv controller cheap 50 dollar goggles (pls try getting something better like ev800d). For the quad it leaves you around 100 so. I recommend getting a tiny drone that can do acro for under 100 and dump the rest into extra batteries.
I have this radio one month ago and it changed my visión completely... little, light, all standard features than a normal user needs, with possibility for TBS module... And cheap.. Very cheap but with decent quality... Is true.. A diode for battery inverted protection is important... But is it a problem for us...??? Yes is true that is not a Tango or other "se mi-premium" radio. .. And in the other side if it drops by accident from 7th floor or to the lake is not neccesary an "harakiri".. Is cheap and has a place in my bag... Thank you for your videos...Best wishes from Spain.
Just installed EdgeTX 2.9.0 and Express LRS 3.3.0 on my Jumper T-Lite ELRS. And it does basically everything I could ask of any radio even at three times the cost. Very happy with mine.
13:10 Xjet just had a heart attack after seeing you remove the plastics. 😬
Ha ha
A quick, cheap & easy source of 18650 cells for this sort of application is USB powerbanks. Poundland here in the UK sell £1 powerbanks containing a 1200mAh 18650 cell, and £2 ones contain a 2200mAh 18650 cell. They both have spot welded tabs on which you can solder wires directly to, or rip the tabs off and use them as loose cells.
The charging/5v output circuitboard in them can be useful too, I combined a £2 powerbank with a £1 COB LED head torch from there with a custom 3D print into a USB rechargeable head torch which has about 4 hours runtime.
If anyone is debating between this and the cheaper BetaFPV LiteRadio 2, I highly recommend spending the extra money for this. My LiteRadio 2 worked great for about 2 weeks, then the connections to the potentiometer broke inside and made it basically unflyable.
I bought the low priced Jumper for flying my tiny whoops. I have a smaller bag to carry to the park.
I"m Whereverimayroam, and I'm gonna learn 5 or 6 somethings today because I can't stop watching these videos one after the other after the other after.......
Just started playing elite dangerous with my transmitter and this looks like a perfect replacement for my flysky
really enjoyed this advertisement for the TBS Tango 2, lol
(it's actually a super fair review)
This radio is going after the flyky fsi6 market tbh not the tango 2 market.
Doesn't do mode 1 though.
Have been looking forward to a review of this by you to see if I can finally move on from my trusty turnigy evolution without having to bin all the receivers!
Throwback!
Haha. Yeah, I just upgraded to the radio master from the evolution about 3 months ago because I wanted crossfire capability. Hope I don't regret it by the end of this video. I really like the radiomaster, but miss the evolution form factor, though not as much as I thought I would.
I pre ordered a tango 2 for my first controller very excited to get it in my hands
Good choice.
5 cent diode would prevent them from selling you another $75 radio.
@Garland Uldrich yer rite
I was very close to buying one of these as my first FPV radio but i went with the TX16S and from all the reviews it seems like ive made a good choice
I thought game pad style controller would suite me as well especially comping from gaming on Xbox for a better part of my life but I tried and it was superrr weird (I’m a pinched though when flying) and I went with tx16s. Such a good radio.
@@patrickfontenot8953 turns out im a pincher too lol
TX16S is a much better & more capable radio if it fits in your budget. Literally the only downside is it's a standard big radio, so if you want something smaller then a gamepad-style one would be easier. ( I do have a big radio, and want to get a smaller one, but have yet to see a gamepad-style one with enough features for me to want to switch.)
My DX7s is getting old so I figured I'd grab one of these as either a supplement for micros and non-spektrum stuff or to replace it. After using it a bit I think I like it well enough to sell my DX7s on Ebay, where the current prices for DX7s is insanely over $100.
Thx JB! I too have kicked Frsky to the curb. Even after buying a Horus some years ago. I have a RM TX16s with a TBS crossfire module. I am slowly moving my receivers over. 5 down and about 7 more to go.
I just picked up my first radio and I went with the radio master TX12 over the t-lite. The TX12 was about $25 more, but being crossfire ready was what sold me.
For a beginner like me - who’s always on the budget - the ergonomics and all limitations are forgivable. maybe even unnoticeable.
It is a fair point; however, as a beginner, you've got a better option. RadioMaster tx12 is a really nice, ergonomic and small radio for very reasonable money. And It is available now.
@@Igor-eo1kd agree. Tx12 is currently another option for beginners. I’m loving my tx12. But compared to t-lite, it falls short at some points. Tx12 doesn’t come with hall sensor gimbals 😅 t-lite does. Tx12 comes with 1in1 multiprotocol module, while we can opt for the 4in1 with t-lite 🙂
@@EndiHamid to be fair I put the hall sensor gimbals in mine and it is now amazing !! You should try it if you enjoy the radio as it costs next to nothing :)
@@kirbyfpv1969 I know 😉 I already did. Got myself a pair of jumper hall sensor gimbals few weeks ago and put them on my tx12, they fit perfectly! And now tx12 is really a cool tx! Altough I still wish it came with the 4in1 module 😂 but that's alright, I love it anyway 🙂
@@EndiHamid Frankly, I don't think hall sensors make any difference for a beginner.
I really considerd this radio..just starting out .came across the 9xd turnigy .bought it used ,and the external module is the mxt 90 that will only ppm . the thing will bind to my old echine copters but not hubsan or my new echines..im new to all this so i was thinking of this radio or buying a new 4-1 mode for the 9xd
I like the disclaimer that although it is a decent to radio there's a good chance that jumper will release another one or the fact that radio Master could possibly release one.
I have the t16 and really want the t16s or even the radio Master ..
Thanks for all you do MR. Bardwell
I just got a Jumper T lite in the mail and the Battery bay problem is fixed its holding my 18650 nicely.
I was really interested in this radio when it was first announced. Im SO GLAD i waited! Honestly, there is just way too many problems. I mean the entire battery and power situation is a flat out dealbreaker. Thank you JB!
@Moody fpv to just toss around in a bag instead of carrying a giant radio, there is really no better. And besides, if you going to fly more then 250mv better use a more proper full size radio.
So far I have 0 complains about the t-lite (no long term, because it just came out) even if they come up with a version 2 in a year or so.
By the way I love the botgrinder shirt 👍👍
Still waiting for the BG kit
Agreed
Iv just ordered a jumper t pro for my first controller with ev800d goggles & a meteor 75
I fly NOTHING but TINY WHOOPS! this is a perfect device for a guy like me, we appreciate the honest review JB! always #madPROPS #weBLEEDfpv !!
I fly only whoops and up to 3 inch, but whenever possible I convert them to Crossfire.
I'm buying this for playing liftoff / DRL! Great vids man!
Hey JB, you might recognize my name since I've been harping on you for this review over the last couple of streams you've done! First off, thank you so much for the review, and all your excellent content for that matter. Hopefully the super chats and Patreon subscription help offset the bother! :D
I've watched every single T-Lite video on YT and was just waiting for yours as I value your opinion above any else's on YT. I ended up buying this radio (using your affiliate link!) as it seems the negatives will be a non issue for the reason I bought it for. I got it for my wife, who is 5'3" and has very thin fingers and petite hands, so the ergonomics should actually fit her quite well. It'll be her first radio and she'll primarily be flying RC planes LOS, so range issues are not a concern. She'll also need it for simulator work and buddy boxing with me and my TX16S (bought on your recommendation, using your affiliate link!). Anyway, I presume it'll work great for us!
PS - My theory on Jumper not every releasing a "perfect" version one of their products is due to Radiomaster. RM has been releasing near identical products to Jumper and doing it much better, IMO. That must make Jumper feel like they have to get products to market ASAP in order to get all the sales possible before RM releases a better version!
Hey there, I got the T-Lite as well and have no idea how to set it up to use as a controller on PC. All I get when I plug it into my Win 10 computer is 'STM32 bootloader.' Got any ideas? Also, I'm building my first drone and am now trying to bind it to the FrSky R-XSR receiver, but I don't think I've succeeded just yet, though I think I have the rest of the settings down in the Mode I set up.
@@rebelstrategist When you plug it in, it should prompt you to select how you are using it on the controller screen. Are you seeing that?
@@TheApostateTapir oh yeah, I saw that after actually turning on the radio, ha. So now it's recognized but now I'll have to mess with the configuration stuff in RDS.
I ABSOLUTELY COULDN'T WAIT FOR J B TO REVIEW THIS RADIO!!!!🤣....I saw a yt video the other day where a guy named stylesuxx did a review and he pointed out some things that were a little concerning....a very bad voltage sag and binding issues as well as gimbal readings were all over the place....now I'm not a pro I'm just starting out in fpv but even I felt something was wrong lol he may have had a bad radio or a bad meter however it still makes you go hmmmmmm🤔 that on top of the things Jb pointed out really helped make up my mind on whether I'm going with this or the tango I'm a gamer so I definitely want a game style radio....if it weren't for JB's content I would probably be flying a paper clip with a rubber band with popsicle sticks! I knew nothing about this hobby but now I am a padawan👍✌
There's a reason the xlite originally used 2 18500 cells its very difficult to build a radio that can function off a single 18650 cell reliably.
A protection diode would just exacerbate the problem even a Schottky diode has few tenths of a volt voltage drop.
The primary focus of this design was to as compact as possible radio that can do multiprotocol. In this regard there are virtually zero compromises.
Adding the crossfire bay also is a great extra bonus with compromises that can be worked around until you can afford a more substantial radio.
I bought a LG M36 3600mah cell so that I don't ever need to change the battery and just charge it internally avoiding any reverse polarity issues.
Did it charge internally ? My seems to not charge it internally. Don't now why
@@TheHenne17 That's strange. Mine charges internally too. I use a Sony 3000mAh. Plugged into USB, the power LED stays on while charging, then goes out when it's fully charged.
Is the Battery in der Lcd schown full when the Led is off ? Mine always shows half full
@@TheHenne17 Yes, it says 4.2 and the meter shows full charge.
I bought one for my daughter but probably I ll use it for holidays , very nice to have a small radio.
I loved the black and white moments. 🤣
i realy would like to know where im wrong..
in the low pricepoint you dont use crossfire
if you want to spent more bugs for better you can although go FULL DJI
so crossfire is actualy only for the ppl who allready have stuff running on it
so the crossfire option is only for the ppl who are a long time into the hobby while its completly obsolet with the newer better dji system (except if your racing professionaly??)
*4:24** in Patrick’s voice*
FIRMLY GRASP IT!!!
Yes
I am never gonna buy a game style controller neither T-lite... I still watched the whole video just because I enjoy seeing him talking on stuffs hahaha..
I'm just the opposite. I will never carry around a giant brick of a controller. Tango 2 all day every day.
you're a prophet, it does indeed have hw issues. i really liked mine at first, but it developed a permanent "key stuck" error on the SECOND day. :D turns out it's very common, and requires actual soldering skills to remove a tiny capacitor without damaging anything, so for now I'm stuck with a useless controller
late to the party, but dress it in a silicon cover and it's the perfect aeroplane radio for small dlg and park flyers - feels good in the hand, and way light to hold
For me. It is good. Beter h
Joystick sensor than qx7. Smaller and slighter. Conect usb type C for sim and charging is more convenient
AngryPepper here, another great job Joshua, well I did buy this as my first as at the time I couldn’t afford the Radio Master. I guess it’s not the worst, but I will checkout your radio roundup to make my final choice.I do want Crossfire eventually but I don’t think I’ll buy for this one anyway. Since I’ve just started in fpv I know I want some of those tiny whoops and this should be a decent size and protocol for at least those.
Bought it in December and still waiting for it, ah.. reviewers powers! You got 2 for feee 😁 I have a radiomaster already but I wanted something to bring with me on holiday;)
Mines showed up today I ordered it Saturday? I used arrishobby for the first time
I fly and love my X-Lite, but I never switched to the ACCESS PROTOCOL I've stuck with the ACCST PROTOCOL because I do fly whoops and in D8 which as we all know is absent from the Acces Protocol. I'm a pincher aswell and I find it perfectly comfortable.
for germany 25mW is the allowed maximun. if you compare for example frsky to crossfire it's still a big step up using 25mW with crossfire. (that probably counts for whole eu).
I don't even notice I'm holding a controller when running this. I'm happy with it.
If your looking to use crossfire and have a controller you can still use for everthing your better off getting a tango 2 and add a multi module then you would be getting this controller and adding a crossfire module in my opinion considering the price isn't that much of a difference in my opinion but that being said this controller still seems like a great option for someone not looking to use crossfire.
I don't know why you keep recommending the betafpv literadio2. tone of issues with gimbals for it over the forums and personally my roll gimbal starts getting glitchy after few uses on the sim.
He still recomends in his website... maybe sponsor
Sorry to say that, but it what it seens
now i need to know about buddy box and head tracking!?
Just getting into FPV and have several whoops. Thought this would be great for using with a simulator to practice on before I move on to a 3inch. So I just ordered one :)
same
Would make a great radio to practice on the sim! Will help build muscle memory
I've bought it and it eventually arrived (there's another comment of me waiting..) and I had to fix it 3 times already. The gimbals are connected with 3 thin wires, and those are keeping detaching. I'm not confident flying with it at the moment, I will check at some point if there's a way to keep the damn cables in place, maybe a drop of glue but for now I can't trust it.
The Jumper T12 pro hall is still the better choice for your first controller. It's also a solid choice for your permanent controller as well.
T12P is my daily driver for past 9mos
I like how you say you don't receive monetary compensation for your review but you get a lot of free shit,(I'm jealous) lucky guy not trying to knock you down you've helped me out so many times keep up the good work. And I know it takes a lot of work to be posting videos every day takes time away from family thank you for all your hard work.......
HELP: I have a tinyhawk 2 freestyle. What is the best game pad style , no fuss radio to get to bind with this specific quad ? I keep hearing about d8 compatibility? Is there game pad style that works with d8? PLEASE HELP....
I fly a TH2 and a TH2 freestyle with this radio (the 4-in-1 version) in D8 mode and it works great! You can use most opentx videos on how to bind the tiny hawk with it.
@@dwlld thank you very much for rhe information. That definitely helps alot. Exciting times.
im happy there is no diode in place, it would reduce the voltage and since its 1S it would be more dramatic as on 2S or more. the voltage drop over a diode is something about 0.2V at BEST, that would mean radio does not stop at 3.5V but at 3.7 or 3.8, than you would loose 50% or more of the capacity.
maybe a mosfet as polarity protection
Frankly, there has to be a solution.
I had just started watching this video when mine came in.
my Jumper t16 pro is awesome, the Gen 1 DX8 Spektrum brill, the original DX6i is phenomenal for its time and power(US mode) I'd would still recommend it! the turnigy evo pro game style is a great joypad style tx fow Kwads the TGY i6 is superb and like most turnigy cheap tx and rx, good range (better than you can see unaided), the xlite is brilliant (put a tbs crossfire in epic), dx9 is superb, IX12 is good but a pain in the feckink ass (cost vs benefit I regret buying it although it is good) and the turnigy tgy 10 is a seriously underrated radio, its cheap cheerful large lcd touch screen great range, once you've mastered programing it it's fantastic, great range, can use the turnigy evo rx's. I have all the radios mentioned yes i have a problem...
Cheap, compact inside backpack, nice support viture, why not for save money and buying sparepart quad 😁👍
yes
I think that shrieking and fear at End ... was from his Nose Growing ! ..... :-D
I would be very happy if the new DJI controller was even simpler than this.
The ergonomics seem pretty good on it.
I don’t really care about a screen we just wondered more his quality of the beta FPV you should do a test
My first radio was the radiomaster tx16s but it was defective sent it back and raceday quads didn’t have any in stock so I got a jumper t18 so good so far but I really wanted the tango 2pro but I didn’t want to wait
Tango 2 Pro is awesome.
Joshua, love your BG shirt
I like it. But since I have two of the BetaFPV Lite Transmitters with two different protocols, I think I'll hold out until I'm ready for a Teranis.
Nice features no doubt.
Joshua, are you still going to review the skyzone cobra goggles? I kinda like the t-lite for its price but went for a tx16s hall instead 😁😁
Yes they're scheduled for Friday
@@JoshuaBardwell awesome, can't wait! I hope they will be good for me as I am thinking of upgrading my goggles soon.
I switched from the IR8M to the TX18S and I do prefer the bigger "game controller" style of radio.
The TX18S is great with OpenTX, the IR8M runs DeviationTX (altho the board should be able to run OpenTX).
And yea, even tho they were not hall effect gimbals on the IR8M after I fixed the pot shafts with some glue/nailpolish they were perfect!
Which Frsky Receivers does the Jumper T-lite JP4in1 work with without and extra module?: R9M, XM+, and R-XSR? (All it says is CC2500) Thanks for your help.
I believe it works with D8 and D16 receivers. I think you can use the XM+ if it has the ACCST firmware.
Flattop vs button top I think.
Back in 2013 I paid 499 for my Futaba10cg. What a rip compared to what's available now
in the user manual it states that button-top protected won't fit but my LG battery also fits loose.
I bought the lite radio 2 SE on Monday last week. I've watched quite a couple videos of the t lite and I sorta regret buying the lite radio 2 SE.
It cost a lot more than SE. Total cost of this is nearly $ 100 or more. Battery and charger cost $30 ish. $5 for SD card ig you want full function.
@@RPiao dude the battery cost like 12 bucks and you can charge the battery through the radio. this thing is much better than the lite radio 2 se. Also the lite radio doesnt even run opentx anymore. Also sd card not needed right away.
@@dittyfpv7615 Yeah, I understand all that. I was just trying to be a nice person to tell him that it wasn't a bad decision. Just wanna make him feel better about his choice. That is all. Personally, I did spend $30 on chargers and extra batteries.
Im gonna use my free return with literadio2
I need to replace my BetaFPV LiteRadio 2 that came with my Advanced Kit 2 due to stick jitter. I am thinking about getting the T-Lite to replace it. I wouldn't recommend the LiteRadio 2 to anyone. Mine had problems right out of the box. Would the T-Lite fit in the BetaFPV case?
Sorry, a bit on the late side, but for anyone else, I made the same replacement and am pretty happy so far. It does fit perfectly in the case (with the antenna removed) and has none of the jittery gimbal issues I also had with the LiteRadio 2. A big relief, because if you've only ever used one radio you can't be sure if it's you or the radio. My T-lite is much better (smoother), even in the simulator. I also wouldn't recommend the LiteRadio as it can spoil the experience for a beginner.
I have used a Jumper T-Lite transmitter multi-protocol for 1.5years, and often fly drones with/without my friends. In general, I feel that transmission distance is shorter. For example;
- happymodel Mobula6 1s loses the signal around 15-25m without obstacles. FrSky binding.(but expect to reach around 150m) . max RSSI is 75, not 99, strange.
- BetaFPV micro drone 2s (forgot model) loses the signal around 50m.FrSky binding (but expect to reach around 400m)
- I have a free style FPV drones (iFlight and gepRC) with air-unit with FrSky XM+. They lose the signal around 1km. (but expect to reach around 2km)
- In general, I found city sides have radio interfere, and a huge parks without people kinda better, but not significant range improvement.
Does anyone know this is normal transmission range or too short and something wrong with my T-lite? I hope T-lite has booster option or may just change antenna simply, instead of installing additional kits.
would be interesting to see how these new gamepad style radios compare to the old frksy xlite and flysky Nirvana which both are capable of running edgetx...
Tango has a oled screen, t-lite had a lcd character screen
I prefer the t-lite screen.
Yeah, the T-Lite screen looks better. Go figure.
The T-Lite has a monochrome LCD display. LCD character would be pretty oldskool nowadays ;-)
@@stylesuxx haha thanks didnt know that :D
Maybe if flying indoors with Tinyhawk or something similar, would be ok. Thanks for posting.
I need a controller to get back on the air sadly I can't afford one right now but I will be getting one of these when I do. Thanks jb
At least part of the reason they didn't install a reverse polarity protection diode is because a diode drops around .7 volts across it when forward biased. If they used one, then when your transmitter battery was at 4 volts, you would actually be down to 3.2 volts after going through the diode. With 1s power, you just can't afford that big of a voltage drop.
There absolutely are ways of implementing reverse polarity protection without passing the current through a diode and suffering voltage drop. Here's a page describing how to work around this issue: components101.com/articles/design-guide-pmos-mosfet-for-reverse-voltage-polarity-protection
@@JoshuaBardwell Yes, there absolutely are ways of implementing reverse polarity protection such as using a MOSFET as in the link you provided, but in the video you were asking why they didn't just "put in a diode," and THAT'S what I was responding to. But you are correct, there are other ways to do it, but inserting a diode is not practical for the reasons I mentioned.
Ah I see. Yup I understand now.
@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks for what you do! I have learned a LOT from your videos. Your work is much appreciated!
About traditional radios vs game style radios, don't worry, Joshua... I hate everything equally. 😬
(Just kidding! 😂)
Fantastic review! Thanks a lot!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Excellent video Joshua
I don’t need this, don’t want it, and probably wouldn’t even recommend it to a friend.. but there’s this part of me that just likes to watch bardwell talk about stuff so here I am 🙂
im the same haha dont need it but then again i might buy it for my girlfriend so i can teach her to fly
If my tx16 isn't laying in my lap it's on the hood of my truck... I'm a hybrid pinch kind of guy and I watch the whole damn thing. I'm actually considering this radio to transplant the guts into an old-school Futaba box transmitter. I need a gutshot Joshua Bardwell !
(i wonder why i can't tag u)
this radio is awesome and cheap!
SD cardwise your so right, 32gb costs$15 odd from good manufacturers
But you don't need eve 8 gig. The amount of storage required is about 2 gig, maybe a bit more if you want to have a lot of model images. So just get the cheapest one you can find.
I'm waiting for another manufacturer to do it better. I bet it won't be long until the clones come out. 😎👍
The Tango 2 uses push buttons instead of these toggle switches, which is a hugely better idea. There's barely any room for your fingers if you're a hybrid pincher or maybe for a thumber too, I don't know about flying that way. Also too easy to flip switches accidentally with them so close together.
I also don't like it being a 1s battery radio. That was a huge design flaw, especially when using a Crossfire module. I wouldn't feel confident flying a long distance with just one 18650 when using a higher power with the Crossfire module. They should have either used two 18650's or a small 2s lipo. To add to that, the screw on module bay seems to be an after thought instead of something nice with grooves to slide into or a bay that's built in, for the module. I think that looks cheap and fragile.
Some company will do it better, with more quality than Jumper uses, so I'm not buying this poor design. 🤔😕
This looks like my next radio, really wish it had at least one knob on it so I can tilt the camera up & down, I guess I could setup a 3 position switch, wonder if I could add a potentiometer or encoder...
i wait for the V2 version with two 18650 and no buggs.
Smart man! Me too Bro! This radio has too many design flaws.
Nice price point. I’m happy I ordered the Tango 2
Curious if you were to pick a beginner setup: TX16S and a cheaper box goggle or the T-lite and Skyzone Cobra X? Where would you spend more $?
I'm curious too!
The only thing keeping me away from this radio is the quality control issues at Jumper (or that's been said, never tested it myself).
Looks like a better option would be the Radiomaster TX12 (if I can find a dealer that ships it cheaply haha).
Just bought jumper t lite come with edge tx 2.9.2 ver but cannot connect to pc with window 11
Always enjoy your episodes. Just saw a video on the radiomaster t8 pro looks cool.
Josh is the man .
Great content ...this would be a no go for me, I guess. This type of reviews are really so appreciated!
A diode would cause a voltage drop and the unit may need two 18650's in series to operate.
There are ways of providing reverse polarity protection without significant voltage drop.
@@JoshuaBardwell Yes, you could use a high amp diode with a user replaceable fuse. But your suggestion to use a spring on the negative is great. Not only would that cure the loose battery but the spring on the negative is almost universally recognizable as the minus. Although maybe 2s 18650 would enable the use of a MOSFET to protect the circuit so no fuse would blow. Also cure the power limit on the external module. OR a resettable fuse before the diode. Lots of solutions :) Thanks for the video and I'll be sure watch your review of the RadioMaster when it releases.
This seems like a okay entry level radio, but my frsky xlite pro still seems better all the way around, from gimbals to ergonomics to build quality. Plus my easy to use actually designed for it crossfire jrlite module works great, and if I wanna fly d8 or d16 instead of access, my 20 dollar xjt module works perfectly. :)
The xlite pro is more than 2x the price. So yeah its a better radio.
I have been waiting over a month for this controller to show up
No. The TBS Tango 2 with the module is the transmitter to buy in my opinion
Noooo a 180$ remote is better than 70$ one ? Really ?
what did you think, hall sensor in this controller or TX12 ? it's for budget beginners. Which did you recommend for that price range?
I really like this controller, and I have been flying for years! I have small hands though, but the ergonomics are good for small handed people. 250mw is also fine for me, as it will give a few KM range anyways...outlasting my video link.
Here's a very random non-FPV question; can it be held securely with one hand?
I also use gamepad style controllers to drive my R2-D2, but occasionally need to hide the controller from public view. So I drive with the right stick, and set everything else to auto.
Yes it can be held in one hand.