I ordered a Corbin seat for it so watch for that video soon! As for L2 charging, it would be awesome but I think there's issues with Sondors proprietary BMS. There are people way smarter than me working on that now, so it's just a matter of time. 👍
If you try to purchase this and go to the cart to pay, look at the red lettering. The company provides a different link to order from and they're transitioning websites. I went to the changed address and was able to order it.
@@PigsTravels As mentioned in another comment EVSE Adapters is moving their website to another host, so the website is not fully functional yet. I'll update the link once the new website is fully functional. I ordered before they started the move, and it did not require anything like a credit check, so I'm not sure what you experienced with that. My order was placed Feb 20, and was delivered Feb 22. Two day turn around is pretty good! You can still call them should you want to order. I personally have never ordered anything on AliExpress, so I can't speak to the adapter you bought.
EVSEAdapters.com www.evseadapters.com?id=53BSO2F You're looking for the "J1772 to IEC C13 Adapter for Electric Motorcycle/Scooter" That way it plugs directly in to the chargers C14 plug and eliminates the need for the C13 to NEMA cord.
Given the time/charge rate I experienced, it's more than likely 120v (Level 1). At 1:42 you can see the details under the image of the car say "1.3kW", which puts me right around 10A (I=p/v : 10.8A=1.3kW/120v). So we are still limited by the Metacycle charger itself. The charger is capable of up to 260v, but only 10A. Level 2 EV chargers are 240/208v, but put out up to 60A.
@@austinmotorwerks7937 Isn't that 1.3kW the output of the charging station itself? If so, that is the charging station's INPUT to the Meta's charger. Has anyone measured the actual OUTPUT of the Meta charger? The placard on the Meta's charger indicates that its OUTPUT is 84V-18A. Great video, thanks for sharing it with us.
The bike was absolutely worth it. I'm riding it more and more as I get comfortable riding in a new cities traffic. As far as Level 2 charging from Sondors, it's doubtful. The limitations lie with the battery management system, battery, and charger. The BMS and battery may not be able to handle the extra load and heat produced. Then there's the charger itself, as it's not built into the bike, one would still have to carry a charging block with them if they wanted to plug in. Only option might be if they build a system that can fit in the void area that can be hard mounted so you wouldn't have to carry it in a bag. Even then, if the battery and BMS can't handle it, it would act as a step down just as this adapter to charger step down does.
I went to the closest J1772 charger two blocks from my house. I wasn't trying to fully charge, simply show that the adapter works. 2 bars in ~30 minutes is normal charging rate for the Metacycle.
For reference: I recently charged my Metacycle from a 110v outlet at home and in 1.5 hours it went from 3 bars to 8 bars. Public chargers are just another charging option, as you clearly demonstrated. Of course, we do have to plan on toting along our Meta chargers, cords and adapters. But it's always great to have MORE places to charge.
It's to give someone an extra place to top up. If I ride 50+ miles one way I can plug into a charging station with a J1773 plug, instead of trying to hunt around for a regular wall outlet.
It could give some alternative charging options on the road that might be critical. I'm looking to do an uphill climb on an e-bike that is about 70 miles long, so I anticipate a much shorter battery life, and unfortunately there are no Starbucks or other eateries with outlets on the route, but there are EV charging stations. My only option without charging on the uphill grade would be to carry an extra fully charged battery. If there's an EV station, I can just use that.
The bike would be totally awesome with a level 2 charger built-in to that empty hole. And maybe a comfortable seat!
I ordered a Corbin seat for it so watch for that video soon! As for L2 charging, it would be awesome but I think there's issues with Sondors proprietary BMS. There are people way smarter than me working on that now, so it's just a matter of time. 👍
There is no locking mechanism to prevent people from unlocking your car?
I love all these vans parked in the EV slots not charging lol --- I wasn't aware Dodge made an EV van 15 years ago. 🤣
Yeah, I reported that on the ChargePoint app. What's the point of having 12 stations and 10 are blocked by ICE fleet vehicles?
What type of phone do you have?
It looks cool 😎
If you try to purchase this and go to the cart to pay, look at the red lettering. The company provides a different link to order from and they're transitioning websites. I went to the changed address and was able to order it.
@TheFredman08 Thank you. That is apparently new for this month. 👍 Hopefully they get everything switched over quickly.
Ordered it with out a hitch. They are back in stock.
Awesome video thanks!
I just did some videos on the adapter
I got my adapter on Aliexpress becuase the website you have linked is kinda sketch plus they require a credit check to purchase something
@@PigsTravels As mentioned in another comment EVSE Adapters is moving their website to another host, so the website is not fully functional yet. I'll update the link once the new website is fully functional. I ordered before they started the move, and it did not require anything like a credit check, so I'm not sure what you experienced with that. My order was placed Feb 20, and was delivered Feb 22. Two day turn around is pretty good! You can still call them should you want to order. I personally have never ordered anything on AliExpress, so I can't speak to the adapter you bought.
The link is working. They were out of stock but they are back in stock now. Ordered one and received mine in about 5 days.
Are all J1772 chargers go on 110v? Or does the charger go with 220v?
The adapter supports 100v-240v I have a video on this
@@PigsTravels link pls? Thank you
Most of these adapters pass the 230 straight through so better to double check with a voltmeter.
Can you please share where you got the adapter from?
Ebay J1772 to NEMA adapter
EVSEAdapters.com
www.evseadapters.com?id=53BSO2F
You're looking for the "J1772 to IEC C13 Adapter for Electric Motorcycle/Scooter"
That way it plugs directly in to the chargers C14 plug and eliminates the need for the C13 to NEMA cord.
Cool. Just like charging 120v with my house Socket. Less than 80 miles Range then less than 80 miles back. But still less than 4 hours of charge.
Is this running off 240 or 120 leg?
Given the time/charge rate I experienced, it's more than likely 120v (Level 1). At 1:42 you can see the details under the image of the car say "1.3kW", which puts me right around 10A (I=p/v : 10.8A=1.3kW/120v). So we are still limited by the Metacycle charger itself. The charger is capable of up to 260v, but only 10A. Level 2 EV chargers are 240/208v, but put out up to 60A.
@@austinmotorwerks7937 Thanks for sharing.
@@austinmotorwerks7937 Isn't that 1.3kW the output of the charging station itself? If so, that is the charging station's INPUT to the Meta's charger. Has anyone measured the actual OUTPUT of the Meta charger? The placard on the Meta's charger indicates that its OUTPUT is 84V-18A. Great video, thanks for sharing it with us.
@@crlla5782great point 👍 it's a shame you never got a response 😅
Was the bike worth it? Also any idea on if they are making a lvl 2 charger for the bike that you can get direct from Sondors?
The bike was absolutely worth it. I'm riding it more and more as I get comfortable riding in a new cities traffic. As far as Level 2 charging from Sondors, it's doubtful. The limitations lie with the battery management system, battery, and charger. The BMS and battery may not be able to handle the extra load and heat produced. Then there's the charger itself, as it's not built into the bike, one would still have to carry a charging block with them if they wanted to plug in. Only option might be if they build a system that can fit in the void area that can be hard mounted so you wouldn't have to carry it in a bag. Even then, if the battery and BMS can't handle it, it would act as a step down just as this adapter to charger step down does.
.83¢ for 39 mins wow. I guess they will charge u more for shorter charge period
The charger says 2 cents per minute.
@@Shzl47 wouldn't his total have been $7.80? it showed .83 cents
@@tjgrafiks all of my very detailed replies keep erroring and not sending. TLDR: 3:42
didnt it say .63 for 6.3kwh at 1:42 ? thats ten cents per kwh , in homes the avg is .16 even 6.2 for .83 is only 13.4 cents per kwh
Omg that’s so cheap to charge wow! 😂
My adapter is arriving,He shoulda known,anything less than an hr,is meaningless
I went to the closest J1772 charger two blocks from my house. I wasn't trying to fully charge, simply show that the adapter works. 2 bars in ~30 minutes is normal charging rate for the Metacycle.
For reference: I recently charged my Metacycle from a 110v outlet at home and in 1.5 hours it went from 3 bars to 8 bars. Public chargers are just another charging option, as you clearly demonstrated. Of course, we do have to plan on toting along our Meta chargers, cords and adapters. But it's always great to have MORE places to charge.
Are these optional for E mini bikes like the razors that are upgraded with electric & Co 72 volt 30ah batteries also E-scooters or surrouns?
This is completely pointless, it doesn’t allow the bike to charge at the rate of the j1772 charger so what’s the point?
It's to give someone an extra place to top up. If I ride 50+ miles one way I can plug into a charging station with a J1773 plug, instead of trying to hunt around for a regular wall outlet.
The point is that EV chargers are everywhere now and it's a viable option versus trying to find a plug and stealing power.
This makes a lot of sense….
@@austinmotorwerks7937no need trying to explain….it makes sense and that’s all that matters.
It could give some alternative charging options on the road that might be critical. I'm looking to do an uphill climb on an e-bike that is about 70 miles long, so I anticipate a much shorter battery life, and unfortunately there are no Starbucks or other eateries with outlets on the route, but there are EV charging stations. My only option without charging on the uphill grade would be to carry an extra fully charged battery. If there's an EV station, I can just use that.
Too bad the bike is trash sry u wasted ur money on it