Buy another magazine tube spring (As a spare). Only do this if you have a extra spring. Take one of the spring, keep cutting it down until you get it at length that will allow you to put one more round on top of the carrier. It worked for me (I had a spare spring) and did it to mine. If I recall correctly it required me to cut around 2" off the spring. This still had the power to feed the gun and enough to allow me to have a 6th round in the tube (it won't be 100% in the tube, but enough in to allow you to close the lever) ALSO: There are two side screws in the receiver that holds the lever in the gun. Every time you take the gun out to shoot, check to see if these two screws have loosened up. (They will). Thats just the nature of the 1887's. They all loosen up. Do not locktite these screws. Just check them everytime you go out and shoot the gun. (Just experience from cowboy action shooting)
I absolutely love My Cimarron 1887. I got mine 6months ago, and I have put it through its paces. I have found it will shoot all Winchester 12ga 2 3/4 ammo, Also Remington Sluggers with minimal effort throwing the lever. First day I had mine I shot 200 rounds Disassembled it, polished up the action, and shortened the mag spring about 1 5/8'' so I could ghost load it. it has been 100%. My hats off to Cimarron they Did an amazing job with this shotgun. I refreshed the finish and did a lettering job just to give it a bit of a pop, but I could have left all that alone and still enjoyed it the wat it was.
@@scottgraham1153 Hell yeah man! I agree, hats off to Cimarron. Because they did do an amazing job on recreating an iconic gun for a very reasonable price in my opinion. 🤘🏻
Roll Crimp shells run beautifully through these 1887s. It's that modern newfangled Star Crimp on modern plastic that gets caught in these! That essentially relegates you to shooting slugs nowadays but... well what can you do lol? If you can find them, Brass, 2.5" and Paper shells also work really well-- anything but that blasted star. I own a PW87- the older model 1887s that Cimarron used to put out in the past-and I can attest that basically every problem with reliability goes away when you feed it roll-crimped shells or shells from its original time period!
I actually wrote a review on this shotgun for the Single Shot Exchange Magazine. I did a torture test to see how reliable and durable this shotgun is. The screw holding my stock on stripped the threads from the receiver tang after around 200 rounds. Cimmaron sells this shotgun with a stock screw that is too short and engages less than 1/4 of an inch of threading. I also had an issue with my shorgun failing to Ghost Load. Lining up shells alongside the tube and one that would be entering the mag while closing the breech block, you can see the spring or magazine follower the factory installs is likely too long and prevents proper ghost loading
@Lit-UP. my personal recommendation is if you have a locally owned plumbing or hardware store. If you inspect your 1887 and find the stock tang screw isn't fully engaging the threads, pull it and take it to your local store. They should be able to find one in the right length and thread pitch to fully engage them. If not, I fully suggest sticking to lower power loads to make it last longer. The 200 rounds mine burned through was a mix of high brass buckshot, slugs, and a handful of light game loads for a warm-up. The major downside to this shotgun is that removing the mag tube is a challenge, so you can't exactly remove the follower or mag spring to shorten either.
@@Courier-Sixyou shouldn’t need to remove the entire mag tube in order to pull out the follower and spring. You can take off the barrel hanger/bracket and the end cap and the spring and follower will come out the front.
Just wanted to post my input on the gun for you since I just picked mine up recently and took it to the range today. I am able to load a total of 7 rounds. 5 in the tube, 1 in the loading gate, and 1 in the chamber. I tested it out with winchester AA, AA diamond, winchester buckshot, federal premium birdshot, remington birdshot, rio 2.5in gameshot, and federal slugs. I had zero issues with any of the ammo. I made sure to fully cycle the lever. I can definitely see how some people can get ejection issues if they dont fully cycle the lever or as some people say "use strength." Quality control wise, mine is good for the price except the bluing is very thin so the finish scratches easy, and I noticed my bead sight was installed slightly too much to the right as if they were trying to center it to the magazine tube clamp. Whats funny about the sight is you can see they have index marked the barrel for where the sight should be installed. My buddy bought one too and his barrel has the same issue. All in all this is a great shotgun. I am curious about the other posters comments about the screws though...
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Good stuff, I had one of the Chinese made ones years ago, think it was a norinco pw87. I loved that thing hunted with it and carried it on camp trips out in the woods all the time. I shot it so much I broke the extractors off of it, the biggest thing I can tell anyone that buys any clone of an 1887 is, dont baby it. It needs to be man handled, rack it like your life depends on it, this thing is a fun range toy but also an awesome tool. I didnt realize cimarron was makin these so well priced, might have to look into gettin one myself.
i have a pw87, heard good thing about the cimarron. my pw87 was bought as a defective product (horrible 26'' off spec barrel cut down to 20'' and 90 degree angle on the lifter that i messed with to make it more reliable by filing at a 45 degree angle so it won't catch on the follower and jam) it was the last in the country at the time so i took it like a project shotgun and now it ejects like a champ and i'm trying to figure out a faster way to reload with it. steven stevens made a nice video about the cimarron 1887 9 months ago, it reaally showed the capability of the platform given you got plenty of time behind it. been only dry firing for now with my norinco to get used to the action and all but the hinged lever do take another technique to really make it work.
@@scottssixcylinders4889 I wish I could confirm. I checked everywhere online and could not find a solid answer. I seen a video of someone saying it was so I went off that because I couldn’t find anything. I would hope it’s at least modified due to the gun being so short. We have a video on the channel hunting grouse with it. And I’ve hunted off camera as well taking down a few more birds with it. Perfect compact size for hunting. Sorry I couldn’t find an answer for you.
Years ago I had the century model and it was finicky. This seems to be a bit more refined. I've read that Cimarron had the action tuned to be more reliable for Cowboy Action Shooting. I may need to get one of these
@@manateewarrior1543 so it takes a 2-3/4 inch shell. So no 3”. Now for the shorty shells I’m not sure. I wouldn’t see why not. But I’d imagine they would feed in pretty bad.
Winchester AA. I had zero issues with all the ammo I tried. I found that when other people were shooting and they had an ejection issue it was due to not cycling all the way through that final click all the way to lift the shell ramp up. They would either partially cycle it, or get to the end before the final barrier for the click to get the shell ramp up.
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Buy another magazine tube spring (As a spare). Only do this if you have a extra spring. Take one of the spring, keep cutting it down until you get it at length that will allow you to put one more round on top of the carrier. It worked for me (I had a spare spring) and did it to mine. If I recall correctly it required me to cut around 2" off the spring. This still had the power to feed the gun and enough to allow me to have a 6th round in the tube (it won't be 100% in the tube, but enough in to allow you to close the lever)
ALSO: There are two side screws in the receiver that holds the lever in the gun. Every time you take the gun out to shoot, check to see if these two screws have loosened up. (They will). Thats just the nature of the 1887's. They all loosen up. Do not locktite these screws. Just check them everytime you go out and shoot the gun. (Just experience from cowboy action shooting)
Why shouldn’t you locktite them?
Why shouldn’t you Loctite the screws??
Because you might need to remove them.
I absolutely love My Cimarron 1887. I got mine 6months ago, and I have put it through its paces. I have found it will shoot all Winchester 12ga 2 3/4 ammo, Also Remington Sluggers with minimal effort throwing the lever. First day I had mine I shot 200 rounds Disassembled it, polished up the action, and shortened the mag spring about 1 5/8'' so I could ghost load it. it has been 100%. My hats off to Cimarron they Did an amazing job with this shotgun. I refreshed the finish and did a lettering job just to give it a bit of a pop, but I could have left all that alone and still enjoyed it the wat it was.
@@scottgraham1153 Hell yeah man! I agree, hats off to Cimarron. Because they did do an amazing job on recreating an iconic gun for a very reasonable price in my opinion. 🤘🏻
Roll Crimp shells run beautifully through these 1887s. It's that modern newfangled Star Crimp on modern plastic that gets caught in these! That essentially relegates you to shooting slugs nowadays but... well what can you do lol?
If you can find them, Brass, 2.5" and Paper shells also work really well-- anything but that blasted star.
I own a PW87- the older model 1887s that Cimarron used to put out in the past-and I can attest that basically every problem with reliability goes away when you feed it roll-crimped shells or shells from its original time period!
I actually wrote a review on this shotgun for the Single Shot Exchange Magazine. I did a torture test to see how reliable and durable this shotgun is. The screw holding my stock on stripped the threads from the receiver tang after around 200 rounds. Cimmaron sells this shotgun with a stock screw that is too short and engages less than 1/4 of an inch of threading. I also had an issue with my shorgun failing to Ghost Load. Lining up shells alongside the tube and one that would be entering the mag while closing the breech block, you can see the spring or magazine follower the factory installs is likely too long and prevents proper ghost loading
@@Courier-Six thanks for the input. That’s great to know! And that’s what I figured for the ghost load. 🤘🏻
@Lit-UP. my personal recommendation is if you have a locally owned plumbing or hardware store. If you inspect your 1887 and find the stock tang screw isn't fully engaging the threads, pull it and take it to your local store. They should be able to find one in the right length and thread pitch to fully engage them. If not, I fully suggest sticking to lower power loads to make it last longer. The 200 rounds mine burned through was a mix of high brass buckshot, slugs, and a handful of light game loads for a warm-up. The major downside to this shotgun is that removing the mag tube is a challenge, so you can't exactly remove the follower or mag spring to shorten either.
@@Courier-Sixyou shouldn’t need to remove the entire mag tube in order to pull out the follower and spring. You can take off the barrel hanger/bracket and the end cap and the spring and follower will come out the front.
Just wanted to post my input on the gun for you since I just picked mine up recently and took it to the range today. I am able to load a total of 7 rounds. 5 in the tube, 1 in the loading gate, and 1 in the chamber. I tested it out with winchester AA, AA diamond, winchester buckshot, federal premium birdshot, remington birdshot, rio 2.5in gameshot, and federal slugs. I had zero issues with any of the ammo. I made sure to fully cycle the lever. I can definitely see how some people can get ejection issues if they dont fully cycle the lever or as some people say "use strength." Quality control wise, mine is good for the price except the bluing is very thin so the finish scratches easy, and I noticed my bead sight was installed slightly too much to the right as if they were trying to center it to the magazine tube clamp. Whats funny about the sight is you can see they have index marked the barrel for where the sight should be installed. My buddy bought one too and his barrel has the same issue. All in all this is a great shotgun. I am curious about the other posters comments about the screws though...
I’m subbing can’t believe I just found channel! That shotgun is such a classic I’m thinking of getting one, my brother really likes these types as well!
Who doesn’t want to feel like they are in a western or the Terminator 👍👍
Good stuff, I had one of the Chinese made ones years ago, think it was a norinco pw87. I loved that thing hunted with it and carried it on camp trips out in the woods all the time. I shot it so much I broke the extractors off of it, the biggest thing I can tell anyone that buys any clone of an 1887 is, dont baby it. It needs to be man handled, rack it like your life depends on it, this thing is a fun range toy but also an awesome tool. I didnt realize cimarron was makin these so well priced, might have to look into gettin one myself.
i have a pw87, heard good thing about the cimarron. my pw87 was bought as a defective product (horrible 26'' off spec barrel cut down to 20'' and 90 degree angle on the lifter that i messed with to make it more reliable by filing at a 45 degree angle so it won't catch on the follower and jam) it was the last in the country at the time so i took it like a project shotgun and now it ejects like a champ and i'm trying to figure out a faster way to reload with it. steven stevens made a nice video about the cimarron 1887 9 months ago, it reaally showed the capability of the platform given you got plenty of time behind it. been only dry firing for now with my norinco to get used to the action and all but the hinged lever do take another technique to really make it work.
Great video!! Thank you for this!
These look fun. Might need one.
I had successfully talked myself out of getting one of these, but I think you just talked me back into it...
@@chaburchak 🤣😂 that’s awesome! Gonna be taking the gun bird hunting this week so I’m curious how it will perform
Look into getting some Peter's BLUE paper ammo. They run alot better and eject fine no hang ups like the plastic ones
Are we positive on the choke size? I’m looking to get one for hunting upland and I was told by one person that is cylinder
@@scottssixcylinders4889 I wish I could confirm. I checked everywhere online and could not find a solid answer. I seen a video of someone saying it was so I went off that because I couldn’t find anything. I would hope it’s at least modified due to the gun being so short. We have a video on the channel hunting grouse with it. And I’ve hunted off camera as well taking down a few more birds with it. Perfect compact size for hunting. Sorry I couldn’t find an answer for you.
Years ago I had the century model and it was finicky. This seems to be a bit more refined. I've read that Cimarron had the action tuned to be more reliable for Cowboy Action Shooting. I may need to get one of these
Who is making them for Cimmaron? I have a Chinese version and would love to upgrade
Pretty sure it’s Chinese too
China, but the QA seems way better than other chinese-made clones based on the reviews I've seen.
It’s the same as the Chinese one but a reskin
It is Chinese made but leaps and bounds nicer than the PW87s.
@ I’ve heard good things about it might grab one
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Does it work with mini shells?
What about Chiappa T-Model 1887?
Those go for roughly $1,500, this is $500-600, and I'm already seeing pistol grips for it on GunBroker.
It's just more affordable than the Chiappa
@@Morgan_Blackhand I see it now, thanks.. 👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏻
Chiappa makes the best copy for the 1887
Yes, for almost 3 times the cost of this one.
@@scottgraham1153 And it’s worth it
Piss easy to maintain. Easiest browning design I own, but ofc a 1911 is handier.
Can you shoot different sized shells?
@@manateewarrior1543 so it takes a 2-3/4 inch shell. So no 3”. Now for the shorty shells I’m not sure. I wouldn’t see why not. But I’d imagine they would feed in pretty bad.
It should be able to run 2-1/2”
@@jeffgatien5815 Mine Shoots 2.5'' with no problems. No luck with the shorty's though, unless you just shoot single action.
Has anyone run Federal shorties or Mini Shells ?
The ugly matte finish just looks WRONG for an 1887
@@D5quared91 I agree. There’s certain guns that matte finish looks good on. But not the 1887.
Can anyone help me with a trusted website to pick on up
@@MarqusGaethje MidwayUSA. That’s where I got mine. Well trusted too
Got mine from buds recently. Under 600 bucks with transfer fee
@ hmm thx
I’m buying one best ammo brand recommend
Winchester AA. I had zero issues with all the ammo I tried. I found that when other people were shooting and they had an ejection issue it was due to not cycling all the way through that final click all the way to lift the shell ramp up. They would either partially cycle it, or get to the end before the final barrier for the click to get the shell ramp up.
@@johnsmith-so6jw hmmmm ok so it’s a people not knowing how to use problem alright thanks man.
Excuse me while I go clean up...
Killer gun I’ll have wood 🪃 for days
@@jeffgatien5815 😂
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