The women football is still developing dude n they aren’t close to the mens teams that why people never complained but in mens football is different bc the game is developed that why people r pissed.
He was my number 1 choice. A proven cup manager with world class players ready to win now. On paper this should work and IF he’s the manager to win a major trophy for England NO ONE will care if he’s English or not 🙏
Tuchel is one of the best knockout football manager right now. This is a great appointment for England. He should have got Bayern to the final last year if not for Neuer's mistake against Real Madrid. In terms of the league Tuchel is a very average manager, but in knockout football and setting his team up against specific teams, he's excellent.
History showed that WC winning managers manage the countries they were from. This could be different, but for starters, Tuchel hasn’t managed internationally (it’s different from club level) and the UCL run he went on was in 20/21. But also, he could be the first to win for WC like the German coach for Greece in 2004.
Otto Rehagel had already achieve the greatest underdog story in the Europe winning the Bundesliga with Kaiserslateurn straight outta promotion in the 95/96 season.
England is a great football nation but for whatever reason we just stopped producing top level managers. 0 Prem Wins and 0 Champions League wins! 91/92 First Division (Howard Wilkinson-Leeds) and 1984 European Cup (Joe Fagan-Liverpool) are the last times one of our own won one of the big 2 club trophies for an English club, since then and indeed since 1966 the national team has fared no better, it's stupid and arrogant for anyone to dismiss foreign coaches when this is what we have produced.
I hate English media so so much They literally were lobbying for Pep Guardiola to be English coach and now that Tuchel came they immediatley start to attack him and FA Same with some fans but if he wins some silverware like the next World Cup the switch up is going to be insane 😭😭
Tommy T is going to win WC and Euros for England. He will get a train station named after himself. Sir Tommy T is gonna be immortalized as a statue near Wembley. Here is a chant proposition: We've got Super Tommy Tucheeeeel He knows exactly what we neeeed! Colwil at the back, Palmer in attack! He is gonna win us everythiiiin
You made some great points but the English manager doesn’t have to be prem proven or do they have to be equal to what other nations have. Portugal and Croatia didn’t have “big managers”. Ivory Coast HC had never been one before. Potter is definitely the better option and history proves that over and over again.
Agree, horrible choice, people love hope so they will try to convince themselves this was good, but he horrible on the sideline with negative body language, and screaming at other coaches and refs all day instead of coaching... Next manager will be hired right after the world cup...
@@NeilLewis77 Many smarter people than me to choose a better guy, I just see a guy with a temper and bad body language, and there are very few jobs in the world more stressful, and the media you have would make Gandhi want to throw a punch, and I see this guy losing his mind and screaming at everyone in press conferences, and on the sideline... Maybe I am wrong, we will see
@@NeilLewis77 It's a guess when it has never happened before, I have never watched a Chelsea or Bayern game where things didn't go his way where he didn't blow up... The German national team hired a much better coach, but let's see..
Tuchel will do everything he can to make this team win, and the UK press will still rip him a new one because (media golden boy) can't replicate his club form on international stage.
i dont have a problem with the appointment, but i think it would be kinda cool if there was a rule that all national team members including staff have to be of that nationality
I still feel like a country's manager should have to be from that country. International football isn't about assembling the ultimate winning machine by taking the best available. The same way a country might not have good players at a certain point, another might not have good managers. I think managers should have the same level of restriction for who they can play for as the players do
and the bookies. french, italian, german and spanish bookies all had enlgand as favourites for the last tournement mate. in the end england had a shocker, played really badly, couldnt create chances and only managed to get to the final. imagine if england had a proper good manager.
You see people making this comment all the time. I'm convinced these people have never set foot in England or spoken to an English football fan. We're the most pessimistic fans on earth idk where you guys get this from
@@pauldirisu9359... and the stuff england fans spread on the web. I don't see much pessimism in "we have the bestest league and the bestestest players ever!!!". But my english is probably just not good enough.
Very good points on Tuchel mate, only thing I would mention is the difference between club and international football l. 2 x treble winners (Flick and Enrique) struggled. Be interesting to see how Tuchel copes with that.
Tuchel isn`t a known international manager though, all of his success is at club football. he will have far less time to get things right, and far less time to correct it, then he would when challenging for league titles and champions leagues. Is he a good club manager yes, but it is hard to view England as the favorites considering club and country football are very different from each other. but whenever any changes happen in the england camp, they are suddenly favorites again.
As a Northern Irishman I have always wanted England do to well. He may or may not win anything but at least the FA are picking someone with pedigree who has charisma and who isn't a yes man. Southgate, Big Sam, Lee Carley etc showed no ambition.
England is the only team right now with a golden generation lead by a top class coach. But Spain is knocking at that door. I think if England doesn't win the next WC they won't win it anytime soon, because other nations are creeping up.
Respectable take, however England has neglected their managerial talent for a long time and this is the outcome of that. obviously it would be preferred for England to get a world class English manager however those are practically like unicorns, and that is why this has happened. The people want trophies, they want success, and as unfortunate as it is, there are currently no English coaches capable or willing to do that for the national team
@@oregano4666 ye I hear that, but I'm not English so I'm speaking from the outside looking in, and I'm ngl that's their fault they neglected them cause even in their own league they have 0 success in the last 20 years+. They are probably just bad
@blurryflex I don't agree with that especially with globalization. There are many small football confederations that have no infrastructure which makes it more viable for a manager to be foreign. Also some nations have similar culture which it's almost like having a manager from your nation. Example an Australian coach for New Zealand.
no englishman alive deserves to be england manager right now sorry. we had to have a foreign manager or knowingly pick an english manager we know isnt good enough. again.
What culture bro? Slothgate was culture what did he do? He cause chaos in dressing room putting his best players out of position. No such thing as culture now you have a winning maneger that’s gonne become your culture. England literally have the best names in football right not they needed a right mind master not culture cuddler
Icl yea England be bottling but why do people act like the big nations bop England off the park when they play them it is not like that we hold our own
Dont get your hopes up, Tuchel will let you down. This guy is just terrible when it comes to people and his social skills. Tuchel is an idiot savant when it comes to football, but never forget Tuchel is also the guy who is hated by his own kids just for being who he is. You guys will hate Tuchel after a year like we Bayern fans did and we are German! Tuchel is the worst poissible choice and in two years time, you guys will know why. Godspeed.
Can't see TT getting on with most of the England players there'll be personality clashes, TT will make some controversial changes, there could be a big shake up in the England camp!!
England are in a unique situation where there pool of managerial talent of been abysmal for the past 30 years compared to other nations for whatever reason
There poor in the managerial department but let’s not act like Argentina was anything but a third class nation with its talent pool not counting forwards a few years ago
@@prowsy8825 1) pressure to win in the EPL means "big" club cant take a chance on English managers and these foreign owners/director generally look down on English football intelligentsia (they think you lots are football cavemen) 2) Englishmen are provincial and refuse to leave that cold island 3) Most EPL teams are international brands and could care less about ENGLISH football. We really should start calling it WPL- World Premier League.
we have the talent, the facilities, the will, we have everything required for the potential to be there, all we need is a manager who can take the helm and guide us there, it's more than probable that under tuchel we do find success. he is a manager who is proven in knockout competitions and that is what internationals are.
More like i don't want them to win. England have one of the most talented squads, and now u hire one of the most talented coaches and anything can happen
Not necessarily if tuchel plays the system he played when he won the UCL with chelsea He could play foden and Palmer in the roles he played mount and havertz in, with Bellingham further back as a box to box
Wouldn’t necessarily say that. He started Kane, Muller, Sane & Musiala against Real Madrid last season and used Gnabry off the bench. Also used the same formation v Arsenal
@@oregano4666 Many smarter people than me would know who is better, I just know he is bad... Temper/Confrontational in a highly stressful job, and national media in England that would make Gandhi want to throw a punch... He won't be the coach past the 2026 world cup... Bad move, let's see if I am wrong 😃
lee carsley was the one until he lost to greece🤣tuchel is an overrated manager imo, just saying it how it is, will see if he can get the best out the players and not just play the big names…
Nah but those leverkusen and stuttgart teams were something else. I mean, Bayern ended on more points than the season prior and still got 3rd and leverkusen went unbeaten. Also league results really arent that relevant in him getting the england job, since he'll only have knockout football to worry about, which is extremely different, and he's been pretty successful in cup competitions over the last few years.
Tuchel is a proven manager, that has won the Champions league and has a vast amount of tactical knowledge and experiecne at the top with the likes of chelsea, Bayern, Dortmund and PSG. Southgate is a manager that has never won a trophy, has only managed Middlesbrough, England U21 and England, all jobs where he failed to build a successful project, has very little tactical knowledge and is prone to making very big blunders in his team set up. TUCHEL IS MILES AHEAD OF SOUTHGATE.
@poptraxx418 took over bayern and made them worse, made them lose their first league title in 10 years. He didn't win the champions league in a full season, it's something Roberto Di Matteo did too. He won the league with PSG but every manager has done that in the last 15 years pretty much. He hasn't done anything special. What is he known for, like what team are we like "ahh he did an amazing job with them"?
It’s now up to the players. They have the tools
Let’s see how Tuchel works
Let's remember that the Lioness' won the Euros before us with a Dutch manager but we weren't complaining then 😭😭😭
The women football is still developing dude n they aren’t close to the mens teams that why people never complained but in mens football is different bc the game is developed that why people r pissed.
We werent watching either
EXACTLY AND JUST BECAUSE TUCHEL IS GERMAN THERE IS NO DIFFIRENCE?
He was my number 1 choice. A proven cup manager with world class players ready to win now. On paper this should work and IF he’s the manager to win a major trophy for England NO ONE will care if he’s English or not 🙏
He’ll still get slandered by other countries and it makes England look worse as well
@@clipped6963 he's overrated
Mate if he wins the World Cup give him a citizenship and a knighthood 🤣
@@clipped6963 let’s bh Tuchel > Southgate
Lyes is too sensible for the average English football fan. This guy is always rational, informed and balanced in his analysis.
Not every english fan is against him being appointed.
I think its an outstanding appointment
As a chels fan I’m just happy I get to support a team managed by tuchel again!!
i’m too gassed bro
Tuchel is one of the best knockout football manager right now. This is a great appointment for England. He should have got Bayern to the final last year if not for Neuer's mistake against Real Madrid. In terms of the league Tuchel is a very average manager, but in knockout football and setting his team up against specific teams, he's excellent.
History showed that WC winning managers manage the countries they were from. This could be different, but for starters, Tuchel hasn’t managed internationally (it’s different from club level) and the UCL run he went on was in 20/21. But also, he could be the first to win for WC like the German coach for Greece in 2004.
Otto Rehagel had already achieve the greatest underdog story in the Europe winning the Bundesliga with Kaiserslateurn straight outta promotion in the 95/96 season.
When Tuchel took this job, there was a rumbling in my Man Utd mind.
England is a great football nation but for whatever reason we just stopped producing top level managers. 0 Prem Wins and 0 Champions League wins! 91/92 First Division (Howard Wilkinson-Leeds) and 1984 European Cup (Joe Fagan-Liverpool) are the last times one of our own won one of the big 2 club trophies for an English club, since then and indeed since 1966 the national team has fared no better, it's stupid and arrogant for anyone to dismiss foreign coaches when this is what we have produced.
I forgot Sir Alex is not English😂 Yeah that's abysmal.
@@omarfaruque98xy thinking he was English is a criminal offence..no lie
Shoutout to Sir Alf Ramsey and what he did in 1966.
I hate English media so so much
They literally were lobbying for Pep Guardiola to be English coach and now that Tuchel came they immediatley start to attack him and FA
Same with some fans but if he wins some silverware like the next World Cup the switch up is going to be insane 😭😭
Tommy T is going to win WC and Euros for England. He will get a train station named after himself. Sir Tommy T is gonna be immortalized as a statue near Wembley.
Here is a chant proposition:
We've got Super Tommy Tucheeeeel
He knows exactly what we neeeed!
Colwil at the back, Palmer in attack!
He is gonna win us everythiiiin
Say it again dood 🎉🎉
You made some great points but the English manager doesn’t have to be prem proven or do they have to be equal to what other nations have. Portugal and Croatia didn’t have “big managers”. Ivory Coast HC had never been one before. Potter is definitely the better option and history proves that over and over again.
Tough day to be Levi Colwill. Not got a great relationship with Tuchel by all accounts
Agree, horrible choice, people love hope so they will try to convince themselves this was good, but he horrible on the sideline with negative body language, and screaming at other coaches and refs all day instead of coaching... Next manager will be hired right after the world cup...
@@MB-xq9hu who would you of picked instead?
@@NeilLewis77 Many smarter people than me to choose a better guy, I just see a guy with a temper and bad body language, and there are very few jobs in the world more stressful, and the media you have would make Gandhi want to throw a punch, and I see this guy losing his mind and screaming at everyone in press conferences, and on the sideline... Maybe I am wrong, we will see
@@MB-xq9hu ok so your guessing that he is gonna lose his temper.
what do you guess would happen if we gave the job to Ben Futcher?
@@NeilLewis77 It's a guess when it has never happened before, I have never watched a Chelsea or Bayern game where things didn't go his way where he didn't blow up... The German national team hired a much better coach, but let's see..
Tuchel will do everything he can to make this team win, and the UK press will still rip him a new one because (media golden boy) can't replicate his club form on international stage.
Media golden boy?
@@Deathmare235foden maybe
i dont have a problem with the appointment, but i think it would be kinda cool if there was a rule that all national team members including staff have to be of that nationality
Tuchel is a great tournament manager. He's a good fit for an international coach
Brutal podcast
I still feel like a country's manager should have to be from that country. International football isn't about assembling the ultimate winning machine by taking the best available. The same way a country might not have good players at a certain point, another might not have good managers. I think managers should have the same level of restriction for who they can play for as the players do
brilliant appointment, I said if England hire tuchel they'll finally be a serious team
Only English people have England as favourites before a tournament
Womp womp
and the bookies.
french, italian, german and spanish bookies all had enlgand as favourites for the last tournement mate.
in the end england had a shocker, played really badly, couldnt create chances and only managed to get to the final.
imagine if england had a proper good manager.
You see people making this comment all the time. I'm convinced these people have never set foot in England or spoken to an English football fan. We're the most pessimistic fans on earth idk where you guys get this from
@@rgqwerty63from your press and media and pundits
@@pauldirisu9359... and the stuff england fans spread on the web. I don't see much pessimism in "we have the bestest league and the bestestest players ever!!!". But my english is probably just not good enough.
did they fire you from dr sports
England world cup 26’ winners 🫡
On one hand, I’m glad he can’t go to United. On the other, I don’t want England winning a trophy. It’s a lose lose situation
Don’t forget he beat Pep 3 times in a row in the league, league cup and CL Final.
In my opinion, a manager should be from the country he's representing internationally or he has to have worked there for a certain amount of time
23 seconds ago is tantalising
City have not been to 7 cl semi finals in a row🤣🤣🤣
@@lukes472 He means Pep, not city.
@@kageryu311 peps not been to 7 either lool
Very good points on Tuchel mate, only thing I would mention is the difference between club and international football l. 2 x treble winners (Flick and Enrique) struggled. Be interesting to see how Tuchel copes with that.
Flick had a crap team and Enrique isn’t a proven manager
Haven’t watched the games but I thought the current manager was doing a good job
Ikr. I was thinking lee carlsley will be the man
He said he didnt want the job
Tuchel isn`t a known international manager though, all of his success is at club football.
he will have far less time to get things right, and far less time to correct it, then he would when challenging for league titles and champions leagues.
Is he a good club manager yes, but it is hard to view England as the favorites considering club and country football are very different from each other.
but whenever any changes happen in the england camp, they are suddenly favorites again.
The last really great English managers are the likes of Brain Clough, Bob Paisley and Bobby Robson
Don't forget Sir Alf Ramsey.
Bob paisley was Scottish
@prateeksrandom3735 no he wasn;t Bill Shankly was scottish so maybe you are getting them confused but Paisley was English,
English media, I beg, for once. Just STFU and let Tuchel get on with it.
As a Northern Irishman I have always wanted England do to well. He may or may not win anything but at least the FA are picking someone with pedigree who has charisma and who isn't a yes man. Southgate, Big Sam, Lee Carley etc showed no ambition.
No more excuses for our players. Intrigued to see Saka and Trent under tuchel. Also how he uses rice
England. German coach. American soil. We will be there.
England is the only team right now with a golden generation lead by a top class coach. But Spain is knocking at that door. I think if England doesn't win the next WC they won't win it anytime soon, because other nations are creeping up.
Imo the manager of a nation should be from that nation since everyone else there is representing also their nation
Respectable take, however England has neglected their managerial talent for a long time and this is the outcome of that. obviously it would be preferred for England to get a world class English manager however those are practically like unicorns, and that is why this has happened. The people want trophies, they want success, and as unfortunate as it is, there are currently no English coaches capable or willing to do that for the national team
@@oregano4666 ye I hear that, but I'm not English so I'm speaking from the outside looking in, and I'm ngl that's their fault they neglected them cause even in their own league they have 0 success in the last 20 years+. They are probably just bad
@@blurryflex never said it wasn't, regardless this is the outcome and there is little to complain about other than the politics of it.
@blurryflex I don't agree with that especially with globalization. There are many small football confederations that have no infrastructure which makes it more viable for a manager to be foreign. Also some nations have similar culture which it's almost like having a manager from your nation. Example an Australian coach for New Zealand.
When you talk about Manchester United and INEOS, they just get Sir Alex Ferguson to depart from being the Manchester United Ambassador.
I do think it should've been an English manager. But the only viable candidate is Eddie Howe and hes at my home club so im glad he wasnt spoken too
I’m conflicted. Top manager, but I feel culture is also an important factor at international level
no englishman alive deserves to be england manager right now sorry.
we had to have a foreign manager or knowingly pick an english manager we know isnt good enough. again.
What culture bro? Slothgate was culture what did he do? He cause chaos in dressing room putting his best players out of position. No such thing as culture now you have a winning maneger that’s gonne become your culture. England literally have the best names in football right not they needed a right mind master not culture cuddler
You can keep winning that culture cup
The culture of playing long balls towards the 6,5 striker 😂
"Culture"? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You want Southgate back in?😂😂😂
It's McKenna, man. The question is, is he really that good?
He’s young
he's not good, He's just developing fresh meat
England will win the WC 100%
Icl yea England be bottling but why do people act like the big nations bop England off the park when they play them it is not like that we hold our own
Dont get your hopes up, Tuchel will let you down. This guy is just terrible when it comes to people and his social skills. Tuchel is an idiot savant when it comes to football, but never forget Tuchel is also the guy who is hated by his own kids just for being who he is. You guys will hate Tuchel after a year like we Bayern fans did and we are German! Tuchel is the worst poissible choice and in two years time, you guys will know why. Godspeed.
Can't see TT getting on with most of the England players there'll be personality clashes, TT will make some controversial changes, there could be a big shake up in the England camp!!
That's fuckin bullshit
England is now a second rate football nation. Can you imagine Germany, France, Spain, Argentina employing a foreign manager?
nope. we have fallen as low as portugal, belgium and italy.
England are in a unique situation where there pool of managerial talent of been abysmal for the past 30 years compared to other nations for whatever reason
There poor in the managerial department but let’s not act like Argentina was anything but a third class nation with its talent pool not counting forwards a few years ago
@@prowsy8825 1) pressure to win in the EPL means "big" club cant take a chance on English managers and these foreign owners/director generally look down on English football intelligentsia (they think you lots are football cavemen) 2) Englishmen are provincial and refuse to leave that cold island 3) Most EPL teams are international brands and could care less about ENGLISH football. We really should start calling it WPL- World Premier League.
@@Deathmare235 Argentina has won numerous major championships since England last won anything.
Stop whining about the draw dude
Is what it is
But probably won’t
we have the talent, the facilities, the will, we have everything required for the potential to be there, all we need is a manager who can take the helm and guide us there, it's more than probable that under tuchel we do find success. he is a manager who is proven in knockout competitions and that is what internationals are.
More like i don't want them to win. England have one of the most talented squads, and now u hire one of the most talented coaches and anything can happen
One of Foden or Palmer is getting very little game time from now on. Tuchel will NEVER play both
so foden.
Not necessarily if tuchel plays the system he played when he won the UCL with chelsea
He could play foden and Palmer in the roles he played mount and havertz in, with Bellingham further back as a box to box
@@lukv2highly doubt Tuchel reverts to a Back 5 system.
Wouldn’t necessarily say that. He started Kane, Muller, Sane & Musiala against Real Madrid last season and used Gnabry off the bench. Also used the same formation v Arsenal
Foden shouldnt be playing anyway
Wow.. Worst possible choice... Well keeping Southgate would have been the only worse option..
who exactly are the best ahead if him with tournament winning pedigree????
@@oregano4666 Many smarter people than me would know who is better, I just know he is bad... Temper/Confrontational in a highly stressful job, and national media in England that would make Gandhi want to throw a punch... He won't be the coach past the 2026 world cup... Bad move, let's see if I am wrong 😃
@@MB-xq9hu thanks for the nothing burger answer MB-xq9hu!!
lee carsley was the one until he lost to greece🤣tuchel is an overrated manager imo, just saying it how it is, will see if he can get the best out the players and not just play the big names…
Tuchel barely won the league with Bayern.
And then lost to Leverkusen who always be losing.
It’s gonna be Tuchel out super quick.
Nah but those leverkusen and stuttgart teams were something else. I mean, Bayern ended on more points than the season prior and still got 3rd and leverkusen went unbeaten. Also league results really arent that relevant in him getting the england job, since he'll only have knockout football to worry about, which is extremely different, and he's been pretty successful in cup competitions over the last few years.
You focus on his weak years but not his good ones
LOL
Tuchel is a German Southgate
Tuchel is a proven manager, that has won the Champions league and has a vast amount of tactical knowledge and experiecne at the top with the likes of chelsea, Bayern, Dortmund and PSG. Southgate is a manager that has never won a trophy, has only managed Middlesbrough, England U21 and England, all jobs where he failed to build a successful project, has very little tactical knowledge and is prone to making very big blunders in his team set up. TUCHEL IS MILES AHEAD OF SOUTHGATE.
@@idk-dz3fo And he also beat Pep 3 times
You’re right that’s why Southgate’s should go to united to win them champions league
@@Deathmare235 🤝
@@idk-dz3fo same playing style
Tuchs defo soooo overrated
How
@poptraxx418 took over bayern and made them worse, made them lose their first league title in 10 years. He didn't win the champions league in a full season, it's something Roberto Di Matteo did too. He won the league with PSG but every manager has done that in the last 15 years pretty much. He hasn't done anything special. What is he known for, like what team are we like "ahh he did an amazing job with them"?