Public EV charging: how-to, tips, pros/cons, reality
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- For well over a decade now, i have been interested in electric vehicles. Being a new EV owner, i have some information to share about public EV charging. If you are looking into getting an EV please take a look. This video will give you a good idea of what to expect. leave comments if you have any questions or anything to add. Especially if you would like to actually do the math regarding the tesla idle fee....correctly... !
Alex Venz has a new video very closely related to this one, more good info in many ways, check it out here • EV Charging Basics
What's up guys, if for some crazy reason I am the one who helped you make the change to an EV .... AND you decided to go with a new Tesla.... well, I have a referral code you can use to get some sort of perk when you buy it (perks constantly changing). I get some kickback from Tesla too. Here it is: ts.la/jonathan33053 . If you decide to go with a new Tesla and i am NOT the one who persuaded you but another person who is actively engaging online to educate you about Tesla did, ask them if they have a referral code. If they are an owner they will have one. As for Nissan, I've got no sort of perk plan I could help you with. Same with Chevy, I got nothing. The Leaf and the Spark EV are still all over the used market and very much worth it when it comes to low cost EVs. Also, tesla.com/used is a source for used Tesla vehicles with a warranty. We are currently in the early stages of that experience and i plan to make a video regarding it soon (bought and received the car but there are issues being worked out). I will add any EV related videos to my EV playlist. Finally, I recommend autotrader.com for looking for used EVs in the US. Keep on charging!
TRY to HELP you I’m thinking about buying a 2013 Nissan leaf but it only has the one port for charging at home can you use that port for charging in public stations
I am a EV charging station supplier.Can you give me an email to communicate?
Yes but you are correct, if they want to sell more the should put into a way to accept a 1debit/credit card pay system or Apple Pay/Android Pay?
Many thanks, I been tryin to find out about "electric bikes reviews" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Diyarah Electric Freedomify - (just google it ) ? Ive heard some decent things about it and my cousin got excellent results with it.
Just wonderful, I been tryin to find out about "free fonts electric" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Diyarah Electric Freedomify - (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my partner got cool success with it.
Just got a Bolt. On the learning curve. One thing I can add - as a commercial property owner - is that putting charging stations far away from buildings COSTS MONEY. Trenching and electric installation costs zoom up. So property owners have a strong incentive to locate the charging stations close to buildings. Sorry if this doesn't help with ICING problems, but there's a reason those stations (and handicap access parking spaces) are close to the building. I will put in multiple Level 2 stations - but they won't be too far from the building. Keep the faith.
Eric Weis gratz on getting a Bolt! Thats an awesome car. As for farther spots getting charging and the cost going up, i can understand that. I saw three guys manually digging the trench for a combo/chademo station in Baltimore. Its the one i show in this video. Next to the conservatory. Far from any building. It can be done, someones gotta pay is all. In that case it appeares to be the city of baltimore and EV Institute.
trenching is usually done with machinery. municipal and public places are feasible because of taxpayer sources of money and reduced regulatory concerns (inspections are easier and don't cost much if anything). private property is another matter. no private property owner will invest in distant trenching. the payback on this investment still sucks big time. Until demand really zooms up, or there are more govt incentives to invest, we will live with charging stations close to best buy entrances. perhaps at some point, utilities will create their own stations and compete with the petrochem industry. but I don't see that happening in my lifetime. in europe and asia, things are VERY different, and they are moving ahead of us at lightspeed in this and many other areas. personally, I think unregulated capitalism (in America) is killing us slowly but surely.
Good Point!
Positioning of the charge point is everything. To avoid ICEd / abandoned EVs, charge points work best in the least used part of the car park - furthest away from the entrance is not a bad thing. Your spot on. If the charge point is close to the entrance of the building they will be ICEd all the time - I have seen it frequently - the other side of the car park farthest away is empty.
yup. so.... yup
Why not just enforce strict towing? That could also whip ICE owners into shape to avoid doing that
Best video I've seen yet to SIMPLY explain public charging!!! It's cool if everyone else wants to try to explain how many kilowatts you are getting and compare and calculate but like you said most of the time you charge at home and every now and then you have to use these chargers. And I agree with everything you said, especially putting the charging stalls away from the building, I noticed Tesla does this a lot. Very informative and simple, you keep making videos and I'll keep watching! Thanks!
Awesome! Thanks for the good words. i am going to try to keep it goin :)
Your comments about gasholes is very similar to my experiences when driving my VW tdi. There would be only one diesel pump at a gas station of 20 pumps and the only car at the station will block the diesel pump. Then rather than pay at the pump they will go into the store and spend 20 minutes getting coffee, snacks etc. Has been good experience in now having to deal with gasholes at the charging stations
You are just the funniest and most entertaining when explaining this. I just got my first ev.
Thanks!... But gratz tho! What did u get?
TRY to HELP you I got a 2016 Mitsubishi I Miev with 19k on it. I love it for my commuter car (nothing fancy)and the free chargepoint stations here in Omaha Nebraska. EVs are still a rare breed here.
You can use Apple/Android/Samsung Pay at almost all of those charging stations listed. Much simpler.
evgo requires a evgo network card currently. Chargers will have the symbols of what they accept on the machine too im pretty sure.
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Wish my bank permitted tying my card to Apple/Samsung. Inconvenient yes, but love the personal nature of my tiny credit union.
Yes it can be very frustrating. Montreal has converted some parking metered spots and reserved them for green plated vehicles (plug ins) where you can charge up your car . Non electric cars or those not plugged in get ticketed.
Excellent video!
I appreciate you taking the time out and making this informative video.
Looking forward to the next one!
thanks for the good words, i have many videos on the schedule... just need to get the time scheduled.
More EV related Pros and Cons videos! They are very entertaining. Wait...PRO - they are very entertaining. PRO - audio quality is better than like 90% of what's on RUclips.
Thanks!! Yes, i try to get the audio up there in quality. Phones now a days have great microphones and recording capability, go figure. Thanks for the good words!
I find it interesting that in your area public chargers mostly cost money to operate. This seems to be a regional difference. In the upper midwest (Michigan, Indiana, Illinois) I find that about 80% or more of public chargers (L2, the ChaDeMo chargers are rare as hens teeth here) are free, even those with the ChargePoint logo. The few Blink and EVgo stations do charge money but nobody uses them. Looking on the PlugShare app it is easy to find L2 stations that are free to use. I can't speak for the US East Coast but around here free is the norm. I have driven from western Illinois to Michigan without spending a dime on power though I did have to chill for a couple of hours here and there...
How fast did you drive when you took the trip? Curious because I just got an EV and I know speed effects battery range
I just bought a 201 Leaf. The plug CAN lock for the DURATION of the charge, then it unlocks. This prevents the gasholes from aborting your charge in their favor.
Steve Urbach that is an OLD leaf :)
And so then the guy probably did lock it. The charge was complete for a LONG time by the time he got there. Uncool. Takin up the spot..
Some fail to unlock. Rare, but there are more and more report complaints of such. According toost complaints, if they can't unlock it on the phone by rebooting the chargepoint, then they have to send a mechanic (only on weekdays)
201 model year? Wow, that’s really old!
With gas being over $4 a gallon in the part of California I live in, EV charging is much cheaper for me than fueling the ICE car I used to have
Yes. I live in SoCal and the gas is ridiculous. I’m looking into getting an electric car soon
@@SianaRepmad It's down to 2.32 where I live on the east cost.
Problem with electric is u have to wait for 3 hr to charge unless u use supercharger
I have owned a LEAF for several years. One recommendation I have is that you look into what deals your power company offers. My power company has a deal with employers where you can get unlimited use of Chargepoint for a small annual fee. Having EV charging at work has been life changing for me.
Good times. We pay .13 cents a kWh to the house. That includes deliver and tax. My work does not and won't offer charging any time soon :/
Thinking of getting a plug in soon and this helped A LOT. Seems like its more of a pain in the ass to get anything with a plug now lol
Thinks have gotten a lot better. But having a plug at home is required unless you drive a Tesla and have an hour to spare to fill up at a supercharger for the week. Depending on your driving.
Yep. Here in California. Walmart has designated clean air vehicle parking. Always full with ICE vehicles. A waste of paint. Many of the ChargePoint's here are free along with other chargers too. My leaf is my back up to our Tesla's. Charging etiquette will always be an issue, until they pass laws and enforce parking rules.
Thanks for the comment. Yeah, even with e no laws and enforcement it's still going to be an issue. The true fix is a plug at every spot everywhere.
Your video really helped me. I thank you. I'm currently looking at the spark ev.
NICE! Glad i could help. did you know i own a Spark EV and did a review on one here? ruclips.net/video/nXa8JqwVGy4/видео.html
@@TRYtoHELPyou Yes I seen that video first and I love your content.
Just wanted to say thank you i learn alot from this .i had my Frist night mare with EV
nice vid. i enjoyed it.
companies can't put the stations further away, because they have to tap into the power like we do. that can be super difficult.
+The Sobman thanks! Running 3phase 480 is pretty simple to cut and route. Definately costs more than its worth right now. Even 240. Theres just gotta be a push.. the things we naturally push in life though.. poop. This is not poop.
Great video! People are people, regardless of vehicle.
I've not run into a gas car parked in the charging spot yet, but what I have run into is an EV driver parking in the EV spot and not using it at all. So you look up the station to check if it's free and it shows as such, then you head over there only to arrive to see an EV parked there blocking access to the charger completely. Very annoying!
yep. i was flipping off the cars and posting images of it on plugshare. it was hilarious because it would be the top picture.... anyway, it was sad because 4 out of 5 were Tesla vehicles... just parked in the spot not plugged in and with their charge port too far from the charger to even reach :( . Good rule is, dont rely on public charging.... and you will be good.
Tesla uses the type 2 connector everywhere except North America (i.e. US and Canada), it's not just Europe. I enjoyed this video.
Dogphlap nice. good old america ... measuring by feet, gallons.... and plugging by ... j1772 tech
I'm in Australia, while SuperChargers are getting more common here they often have to be augmented by CHAdeMO or J1772 both of which need a conversion cable to charge a Tesla. Three phase power points are also often used via yet another adaptor cable. Not many EVs here (we have no tax incentives and the grid is mostly coal fuelled so the environmental benefits are modest but the take up of home solar PV is substantial so there is that).
love it!! love the home charge video...new to this!!
holy shit, this is 2 years ago. still very informative
Love to see "WALMART" be the first to have about 6+ charge stations @ EVERY STORE in USA near front or side of store to buy say a 1 hour Charge! Walmart knows the Customer will have an hour+ to shop during the charge & we will know that if you go to Walmart to shop there here will be charge stations too!
i wish you were right, but electrify america is dropping the ball big time. most of those stations have only ONE chademo plug. also they frequently put four plugs between two spots. only two cars can use them leaving two working plugs unusable. they dont care. resla on the other hand is deploying stations one plug per spot. not four on the line between two spots....
@@TRYtoHELPyou Electrify America is part of VWs punishment for Diesel gate. It sucks because they don't care.
As an additional info: Type 2 is the top part of CCS, that is the (slower) AC charger here with communication included. CCS uses the same.
11:15 there is in CA
22511.1 (a) A person shall not park or leave standing a vehicle in a stall or space designated pursuant to Section 22511 unless the vehicle is connected for electric charging purposes.
(b) A person shall not obstruct, block, or otherwise bar access to parking stalls or spaces described in subdivision (a) except as provided in subdivision (a).
calirider209 nice, what is the penalty? Thanks for sharing !
TRY to HELP you --It's marked in the books for $490.00 but the judge may lower it if you are lucky and he does not own an EV.
+calirider209 wow. Thats more severe than a speeding ticket yeah? I wonder how they came up with that. In MD i was watching an assembly hearing amd they stated that the spot has to have a sogn AND the ground needs to be painted for the law to be enforceable. Interesting thing is nearly everywhere i go, there is no paint on the ground.
TRY to HELP you --I have no idea on the legal paint markings they have to have to be in accordance with the law. I just looked up a google search on a law for parking in an EV stall. I know here is CA for a handicap stall to be in full accordance it has to have 3 things: blue painted lines, handicap logo painted on ground, and a handicap sign. I'm sure at almost $500 for a ticket EV stalls have to have something similar but I have no experience with it; I'm sure it's still in its infant stages in the law books. But, yes that is more than speed ticket fine amounts unless you get up into the 100+ or reckless fine amounts.
calirider209 good conversation! Thanks. Agree to the infant stage thing. Thanks again!
Thank you for the review ,very helpful and entertaining.
+Eddie Styles thanks for the good words!
This is so helpful. I am doing my research now on a Leaf and I would be relying on public charging in Baltimore City. I'm trying to see if getting a Leaf would work because I am a case manager and travel multiple days a week during the day for work. Thanks again!
Jay Jordan oh my wowsers. Howdy neighbor! Ha... So if you had the 2017 or newer leaf you would be happier because of the range in the 2017 is over 100 miles EPA estimated. Go to plugshare and check out the chademo chargers in Baltimore. There are a LOT of free ones currently... I'm glad I could help! If you can afford a 35000ish dollar car check out the Chevy Bolt. There are plenty around (for sale at dealers) and they go well over 200 miles. And those chargers in Baltimore have the CCS plug too.
Thanks for the video, was wondering how all this worked.
I'm near U of Maryland and know of a couple of free level 2 chargers so I take advantage of those.
Nice, are they on plugshare? Nice channel btw, sweet collection!
if gasoline prices go down? lol oil companys worried about loosin monopoly with tesla stock going up ? would be intesting to know if some of these over priced ev chargers are run by oil companies ahahah
Hey I live near UMCP. Where are they?
Always great videos from this dude :)
00:13 *I went into my local filling station recently and asked where I could 'fill up' for free in my Mercedes B200 CDi and could not believe it when they said "you have to pay" In the end I used a normal 'Black Hose' and recharged for 600 Miles Range in around 4 Minutes, I was informed when paying I could have selected Pump 3 which had an even faster 'pump rate' and could have saved me 26 Seconds had I selected option 62B on my Smartphone and - Pay by **_Pay-Pal®_** with .005% Discount. I was so annoyed as it must have taken at least ½ an hour off my life.*
Please do a video on homecharging and if you could include cost that would be awesome!!
+Living in Spanglish I will highly consider this and thanks for the request!
Blink has great home chargers, I'll get one on my next EV since this POS leaf charges fast enough on level 1 due to tiny battery :/
I'm from B-More as well. Thanks for the info, and I will be taking my tail to Druid Hill Park to Charge for $FREE.99
Hi M Furr, I'm trying to find some locals to help me with my research. I am considering purchasing a Leaf.
Nissan Leafs can be charged for free at any Nissan dealership. Regardless if u bought it there or not. Chevy Bolt as well. Chevy dealers let u charge for free
The cheapest I’ve seen was at a charge point in PA. I was there for nearly 2 hours and I’ve payed $0.86 for about 70% of my battery.
Nice!
My 6 yr old Chevy Spark is losing range and is down to 75 mi in good weather. Thinking I should sell, but hearing you say you drive an older EV that gets "40 to 60" miles on a full charge makes me think I should keep my Spark. It's a great car after all.
My spark is about the same right now. It's going to last a lot longer than the leaf will, for sure. Keep it I say, unless you upgrade to a bolt.
the European plug (as you referred to it) is the Tesla charger EU version
USA : Too Expensive
Norway : Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
quite the oppisite sir USA: not free, but a small nominal cost to keep the company that is putting up the chargers in business.
Norway??? Paid by the sky high gas taxes and Oil exports. Sure, it's nice for you, but it's the same if I asked you to replace a diesel engine that fails on my car. No one should have to subsidize anyone.
@@bmw803 For real
There is no free. Somebody pays, and I for one do not like being coerced to subsidize other people's lifestyles.
@@rangersmith4652 Me neither... But if we're looking at the real situation most of the paper currency is worthless.
EVgo on their site says $0.15 a minute at 40 kw. Thus a hour will cost $9 for 40 kwh, or $4.50 for 20 kwh which is the price of gas where I live. My fitbit watch has that symbol.
They have changed their prices over time, i think it has been getting better.
@@TRYtoHELPyou It is $9.00 not $6. $.15*60 = $9 oops.
I like the lock mechanism idea. However, I would have it that the car would unlock the charger once it's fully charged or at least to a certain point. That would be courtesy as opposed to arrogance. 👍
That’s what the new Prius Prime does.
I think the leaf too... The dude was there for hours tho... it would have unlocked yet he said he should have locked it.... while his car was charge all the way... crazy...
yeah they should really make that a non-option. I just reviewed the prime's walkthrough video and you can turn that feature off if you want to, so any asshole who doesn't want to think about it for more than 2 seconds can keep it there. Hopefully by 2020 all EV cars will force auto-unlock when fully charged.
Nice Video!!!! Just when i thought that i am the craziest guy on the planet, here comes this guy...
crazy awesome is what...
Alex, interesting video. You mentioned that hopefully there will someday be more EV Charging station. Well I am a Program Manager for Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E) here in Northern California. We have started a program to install 7,500 charging station over the next 2 years. The charging station are subsidized to property owners who have space for a minimum of 10 Stations. Clients would include multi family properties, hotels, motels, and business center. The problem we have is getting the word out that this program is available. You mentioned lots of roadside stand-a-lone stations where you travel. This program was created by the State of California in order to encourage EV use. PG&E is the largest Electric Utility in the state. Have you heard of other states with similar programs?
Who is Alex? I will reengage with this comment once I am home. In the meantime, I suggest getting a hold of all the EV related RUclipsrs by comments or twitter.. they will gladly spread the word.
Sorry I grabbed the wrong name from the text. OOPS
Thanks for taking the time to post. Looking up info considering an EV.
Edit: I wrote this comment before I heard him actually mention the PlugShare app.
The app “PlugShare” is great for finding charging stations and planning routes. Using that app, I was able to create 300 mile routes that would bring me only to free charging stations, which is quite impressive, though they are often quite slow routes
(Routes based on the 93 mile range of a Kia Soul EV)
I wrote this comment before you wrote your comment.
Be ready for that! lol. Great video :) thanks for sharing your experience.
Thanks for the good words. Glad I could help!
Watching this 2017 video in March 2021 ... it’s like light years of difference ... especially in Canada where the largest Canadian Petroleum Company (Petro-Canada) had completed a Trans-Canada Electric Highway coast-to-coast.
Sounds like a challenge :)
We have eight stations at our place of employment and more and more are being bricked by Tesla's that charge all freaking day even though there's a 4 hour limit sign. The Tesla guide should have some information on EV charging etiquette.
This problem won't go away any time soon without some sort of enforcement.. but, a plug at every spot would greatly help.
Great video and very informative. Thanks 👏🏻
no problem!
Thanks,
I like your delivery and good info.
Rob, Bolt
+mosfet500 your welcome! Thanks. Enjoy that awesome car!
The plug you know little of is Mennekes Type 2, mode 3 and handles upp to 22kw of ac power to the onboard charger. It is also the upper half of CCS. So a car with CCS also uses same port for free public charging stations. Interesting thing Tesla made for Europe. Theirs look like Mennekes and works the same up to 22kw but uses deeper prongs for the supercharger stations. In Europe the Tesla model 3 will get CCS and the stalls will get retrofitted with additional cables and connectors.
Awesome info, thanks!
License plate registering to check if it’s a gas or ev in a designated ev zone, 16:00
I just purchased a Chevy Volt 2018, right before the EV credit expired.
I got the Volt, not because I don't believe in future of EV, but I still see some barriers to going full electric.
My experience has been great so far, however, I like some input community where to find public EV charging locations. Here in DC (I live in Northern Virginia), parking is very tough find or/and very expensive. Street parking is cheap, while the garage is expensive. Many charging station are only located in expensive garage. For me I find it hard to justify going to these garages vs paying for gas. I get that electricity is cheaper than gas, but the limit of these saving is more than off set by these expensive garage fees in downtown area.
I am fine in my home city, but I don't understand how EV owners can go park tothese expensive garages so they can charge their car when not at their home city. Please comment.
Well, get a 200+ mile EV and you likely will not need public charging stations if you can charge at home. Tesla makes the best EVs. Chevy Bolt is a good EV tho. The volt helps you get a taste of full EV and also save some money in fuel too. Other than that the best answer I have is this (2), plugshare app on your phone and know that every wall greens in my area here in MD has a 220 charge station. 2 bucks an hour.
Very nice video. Thanks for posting and have a nice day too.
I just got a 2014 leaf today! Thanks for the video honey! Very informative!! 😘
TexasRedBay congrats! Glad i could help :)
TRY to HELP you I have a quick question if you don't mind. I just charged my 14 leaf. I turned it on and it said 72 miles but then jumped to 66. Is my battery going out or something? Or is that normal? I thought they should have gotten 107 miles fully charged.
TexasRedBay there is a lot to say... But for starters, the 107 mile range started in 2017 model years. Before that (your car) had an 84 mile range. Over time the battery capacity degrades. Yours, displaying that range, is normal for that year. Over time the battery wears down. I think i should make a video on this. Did the dealer tell u it was a 107 mile range car?
TRY to HELP you no, dealer didn't tell me. I tried to research it on my own. Lol guess I was wrong. I'll take your answer though. Sounds reasonable. It was just weird how it's fully charged showing 72 miles then after a minute went to 67. I want every Mike I can get! Lol But so far everything seems good! But yes!! Make a video on it! I'm going to be a frequent watcher! Lol or subby! Lol thank you so much for responding!!😀😀
no problem, thank you. You will surely like the Leaf. I may be getting a new battery in the next month, more on that when its all said and done. Many videos to make, but i will be sure to put that on the list further up.
Wow this was so entertaining
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great topic great video. I see fully charged V's blocking the station all the time, they should know better. SHARING.
The biggest problem with charging stations is their reliability. Often you see them not available at certain hours, not available to everyone ( especially car dealers ) and then the ones that are fucked up for days and days.
Biggest tip I know is to get the EVHOTELS app.... then you can easily find all the hotels that offer all kinds of EV charging.. and then hit to road.. FREE EV ROAD TRIP DUDE!!!!!
EV and PEHV manufacturers need to come up with some standard for charging plugs or we're going to end up with numerous, non-compatible plug/charging options. You can pull into ANY gas station and refuel an ICE vehicle. This multitude of plugs has got to change.
love this channel
just we thanks! i will be doing a siemens versicharge EVSE review soon. within them next month i would say for sure. stay tuned!
Usually, if you see Visa, MC, etc. logos near the contactless symbol, you can use your contactless enabled debit or credit, or Apple/Google/Whatever Pay
Hey watching this it's really helpful. We're considering an upgrade to a 2013 leaf next year from a 99 Chevy Astro here in PHX AZ. There are 309 charging stations within 30 miles..
lol i live just north of Baltimore and in Frederick alot! are you from MD? great videos...keep them coming
+Kangston169 nice! From here, sort of :) it's a small world.
In my area in CA type 2 chargers are usually free 95% of the time. Anything more than level 2 is rare in my area
Public charging stations should follow the ATM model .. ie they would work with each other's accounts
the EVgo app kind of does that now. I can pay for sema stations at walgreens with it now.. perhaps give them a try. they are pricy though.
Thank you!!
+Gabriel O'Farrill no prob!
i WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO DISCUSS THE PROCESS OF INSTALLING EV CHARGERS IN PUBLIC SPACES, I. E. CHURCHES, SMALL BUSINESSES. ARE THERE LOCAL PERMIT FEES AND WHERE DO WE FIND THE BEST INSTALLERS
many of the charging stations in CA provide a card to scan, it is attached to an onine secure account that charges a card on file. It is cheaper if you are in network
ABSOLUTELY!
I have way more problems with EV users than ICEing. Parking in the charging spot but not charging, or leaving car after its charged. Sharing is caring.
That problem will never go away, too. We need more plugs or longer range EVs. Plain and simple
Free electric. Just run an extention cord across the laen to my neighbor's outside outlet. After nidnight only!
+Bob Publicover one may find they are given a lead implant if that happens in my neighborhood. I wouldn't dare try this...
By the way your vids was ECELLENT. learned a lot
Yup. Lead poisoning is bad.
I have a BMW i3, and do the majority of my charging at home. I find public charging stations to be broken 50%+ of time. To me this is the biggest problem, and the reason i will not go strictly EV. And while there are slightly more chargers now than there were 2-3 years ago, they seem broken just as often if not more.
I suppose if gas was $4+ a gallon there would be more effort to make the shift, but for now chargers seems to be put in place for a tax break, which the company receives regardless of whether the charger works.
you are seeing the reality for non-tesla... tesla on the other hand has a near bulletproof system. its never let us down in almost two years of owning our S.... i really am going to try to get back ot making videos bout this all soon
Its $4 now just 10 months later lol
We have been driving electric for 20 years, starting with the legendary EV1. The single most important fact about EVs is that most people charge at home and don't use public chargers. That should probably be the introduction of the video, not technical details about charging. I would say a vast majority of non-EV drivers are ignorant about this point and highly confused about the need for public chargers. Many people think that EVs can't be practical unless there are as many public chargers as gas stations. Nothing could be further from the truth. Anyone with electricity where they park as a "gas station" where they park, most often in their home garage. They charge at night and have a "full tank" In the morning.
+Loanword Eggcorn thanks for the comment. I may make a video entirely on that topic.... Tye model 3 tho... Many people will probably be beholden to superchargers only.. it will be interesting to see.
Thanks. Please also keep in mind that as EV adoption ramps up greatly over the next couple decades, there will be a lot more public charging, including in parking garages, and for street, apartment and office parking. All that's really needed for charging is electricity and an outlet or a relatively inexpensive EVSE. It will become very commonplace in future, even if it isn't now. The situation is highly dynamic and currently in a state of flux. Most people (are shortsighted and) assume it's static.
P.S. I expect a majority of Model 3 drivers will also charge at home. As you rightly point out, fast chargers are generally only needed for long road trips.
Loanword Eggcorn also many ppl live in apartment , condos that don’t have parking an they need public charging
Will the EV chargers stop when your car is fully charged or no?
Yes, Your car let's it know to stop.
@@TRYtoHELPyou I mean when you're charging & you leave, will the timer stop when your car is full or at the full timer amount?
Great information on public charging. I've driven an EV for five years and experienced everything you've covered.
Some advice for those driving plug-in hybrids: NEVER use public charging stations! You don't need them. That's why you have a car that uses gas to extend your range. Leave public charging available for those of us who drive BEV's. Being ICE'd is bad but seeing Volt's and Prius Plug-in's using all charging stations at a location is worse.
Thanks for the comment. While i agree to a point, i dont agree fully. If there is a plug, i feel they should be able to plug in too. however if the car is not actively charging (completed charge) the car should move.. i am thinking about getting the pacifica hybrid that Chrysler came out with because electric vans are not a thing in the US yet...imagine if you operate your plug in hybrid at like.. less than 20 gallons per year. wouldn't that be cool? i hope those with Volts or energi cars do give the plug a rest though if they dont NEED it in order to complete their journey fully electric. if you NEED it though, you are in a bad place to begin with. I have gotten really good at not needing a charge...and with the heavily degraded battery at that. ..
Denny Hyde: Dude...that is not fair at all. There are tons of plug-in hybrids that need the charge when they are out--and are trying to be eco-conscious too. As a plug-in hybrid owner, I have 50 miles of electric but am stationed in a place with rural areas so drive further than 50 miles a day every day. Because of this, and because I got a plug-in hybrid to be more eco-conscious in the first place, I use charging stations too. Like every plug-in hybrid, I charge quickly and therefore leave quickly, and have had nothing but nice experiences with full EV drivers so far. No one has been elitist or demanded I leave just because I have a plug-in hybrid, or espoused your view. Good to know your point of view exists though, and I hope you eventually find your world where everyone defers to you because of the vehicle you drive.
3.50 is a crazy minimum charge for L2 considering some of those chargers I've never seen a vehicle plugged into ever.
You must live in an area with anti-social local government. ALL our public charging stations are free.
marby602 anything south of baltimore is pay for charge. It makes sense. Baltimore has a fair amount of free DC Fast charging. Most of the level two there is pay to charge though.
Makes more sense to reward the positive social behavior of driving a vehicle that doesn't cause air pollution. These public chargers should be free.
GREAT VIDEO!
Thanks.
I love the humor 😂😂😂
I unplugged someone from a Level 2 charger cuz they were charging a large golf cart thing that was already charged
Great video. Thanks
Uncle Bernie glad you enjoyed it!
Informative and Hysterical! Well played sir
I’ve just been trying to figure out if it takes a long time at a station. No one wants to be at spot for 35 minutes
I figure out how far I need to drive then I charge until my car reaches that number of miles. Then I unplug and keep driving. That saves me money too or helps me use my charging credits wisely.
I am thinking of buying a 2018 electric, either an eGolf or Leaf2. Leaf2 includes a level 1/2 charger. So please do a video on home charging.
COMMON GAS SERVICE STATIONS NEED TO ADD A EV CHARGE LANE TO BE COMMON CHARGE POINTS. HOW CAN WE INFLUENCE THIS OPTION.
+Mary Kimberlin gas and electricity go well together.... Ha! Check out my leaf video.. u will see me charging my leaf at a gas station. Send a request letter to the gas stations to make influence.
Mary Kimberlin every gas station I see has three phase power at the pole, even in the countryside
Until I drove a Leaf last month, it hadn't occurred to me how it's far more polite to assume you need to move your car away from the charger once it's done charging.
Placing of the chargers depends on having sufficient wiring to support the power use at the parking spot.
+emperorinsaino yeah. People are learning. We all are really. You can run electric lines very easy. Underground or over. Imagine if most parking lots had just 20 or 30 simple outlets, similar to a campground? Ish. It would be simple, simplicity has not been the issue though. I think stagnation is I believe.
+emperorinsaino tks for the comment btw!
have you tryed to plug in at a camp ground ?
+gasdorfic muncher I have not yet however I'm sure it works just fine. You even have a choice of plug at a campground often times.
i got towed today very embarresing my fiat 500e on the trip back lost half the range stated on the gauge was on the highway going 60mph with hardly any stops ..was 28 degress outside i have learned a terrible life lession ..using the cd player in 28 degree going 60 mph can ruin my range in indiana on highways
4 miles i needed to reach my home cost me $120 dollars
Yeah lvl 3 will cost you because it does a hour charge while lvl 1 and 2 take 22 to 8 hours
2016 leaf with 6.6 charger can charge in 4.5 hours from empty on lvl 2
Can some one came close and use your plug while you are not there or it locks to your car?
Ah, these old models, anyone could just unplug you. The next year I think was lockable but unsure if it's over a certain percent. All tesla's lock. If the doors are locked, the inserted plug is locked. I say inserted plug because if you are using the j1772 adapter, the j1772 plug can be unplugged but not the adapter(inserted). My 2017 spark ev has no real locking thing. It's there but doesn't work and can just be defeated. It doesn't really clamp down. Just looks shiny and moved as if it locks down.
What about office park garages? Are they usually difficult to use by the general public?
The European plug is more commonly referred to as the 'Mennekes plug' and it is used for 3 phase charging, that's why it has more pins. I live in the Netherlands where a standard household connection to the grid is 3 phase x 240V x 25 Amps. So you can type 2 charge at home, if left charging overnight you can be sure to have a full battery the next morning.
I’m about to get new Nissan Leaf, so with their program, it will be completely free with dc fast chargers?
Gratz on making the EV plunge! It appears they still do offer the two years free charging. Read more at the link below. Also, i recommend looking at the Chevy bolt, Kona EV, Kia Niro EV and Tesla model three if you are in the market to buy an EV. Also, my wife and I bought a used Tesla model S on October and it came with free supercharging (paid ~38k tesla.com/used ). Especially if you are thinking about getting the SL trim leaf, look at those other cars. Good luck! www.evgo.com/nissan-leaf-ez-charge-offer/?campaignid=1730836771&adgroupid=76201175908&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxLiyuNOk4QIVELbICh0NGQjvEAAYAiAAEgLA__D_BwE
If you still have your Leaf, a 10kw Setec charger could help you out greatly. A little spendy sadly. Might be worth the cost though.
not surprised, by the time they have 100 models of electric vehicles they will have 100 different types of charging
very good video.
very good comment.
EVgo DC chargers in the Seattle area are starting to pop up with credit card swipers, so keep an eye out for them. EVgo is a love hate relationship for me. I like them since they're the only network expanding DC charging in the Seattle area, but I generally never use them since they're so expensive, usually around $11, just like where you are. Aerovironment has a good number of DC chargers on the "west coast electric highway" but they break often and take a long time to get fixed, at least the Washington ones. Again pretty expensive at $7.50/DC charge. But they have a $20 monthly subscription plan, so if you do 3 or more charges in a month, then it's good to sign up for that month, get all your charging in, and then you can cancel at the end of the month without any cancellation fees, unlike EVgo's plans.
Blink can suck a big one... their L2 chargers at broken 80% of the time around here!
Washington has an EV parking enforcement law. It's a $124 ticket for ICEing a charger... if the charger parking spot has the correct signage and green stripes painted etc. This also applies to EVholes! If you park your leaf and it's not connected you can get a ticket! app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.08.185 I don't know how easy it is to get it enforced though... and you might have to have the enforcement code handy to make sure it can be enforced... and probably so that if you're able to get an enforcement officer there they can read it because they probably don't know about it!
I don't think the charger lock in the LEAF will lock the chademo, only the J1772. Guy #1 is an EVhole!
The L2 25 miles per hour of charge (6.6 kw on-board charger) is on 2013 or new SV, SL trims, or the S trim WITH the chademo option. I'd say about 75% of the L2 chargers I've encountered in the greater Seattle area don't charge at the full 6.6 kw. My home charger does do the full 6.6 kw, so I'm spoiled at home and have to remind myself its going to take longer to charge at most public chargers. :( Most are around 5-5.5 kw here.
Love your LEAF videos.
+Redbeard4Beer aahh. Great comment. Thanks. Good info. I wish I knew about the lower wattage possibility... Hmm
Yeah, I think it mainly has to do with amperage of the circuit which is installed. I think it's mainly older installations which makes sense, the LEAF was the only viable EV in 2011 and could only take 3.3 kw, so they went with something a little bigger than the LEAF could take, but not big enough. Although some of the others I've encountered were installed as recently as January 2016, so maybe there are other reasons as well.
Chargepoint offers the ability for owners of the actual public charging stations to limit their output via program from what i am seeing. I know of one that i only get 3.5 kW and the exact same model charger at a different location lets me pull 3.7 kW. May just be owners limiting the output... that would be sad to think i would get the full 6.6 and then find out i am limited after plugging in, i would have to adjust my schedule... we would have to .. you know... uhh
I was actually Wondering if a home generator that they have in the garage with the generator be able to charge the Chevy volt
Maybe, it needs to have an actual ground hooked up to be safe and work. No neutral floating grounds, most generators have that. I have a 7500watt diesel generator and it does NOT work currently. I simply need to install a ground rod for it, hook it up and then it may work. Still have yet to try it.
@@TRYtoHELPyou Pretty inefficient for the potential load on the generator. I guess if one didnt have no access to power maybe.
You can get an EZ Charge card even though you bought a used Leaf. You don't get the free Quick Charging though. When you activate the EZ Charge Card on EVgo they give you an option to sign up for the Nissan Preferred plan with no monthly fee and only $2.95 per QC session + $0.15 a minute. Not sure why you couldn't activate yours.
i got the card, but never activated it. I am paying 15 bucks a month with EV go and 10 cents a minute for DC charging. it is actually more convenient than i expected. Thanks for the information!
Dorky but fun video👍👍👍
+Lucas Mott thanks!
so in my area, very few chargers, but when there are chargers if I stay in car, free charging, or if I pay for parking get free charge, about $1 per hr. North east, ny NJ area, very few chargers, I have a slow slow charge speed 2013 smart for two. 3.3 kwh speed max