It will be interesting to see how they can hold on to the good players if they don’t join the league. Super league teams will make more money, will buy the best players and will have bigger squads. If super league becomes successful then teams would either have to join them or become irrelevant.
@@jzon0 European competition is important, but at the end of the day, it's about the local competition first. Especially for fans, who don't have the means to travel abroad every week.
The premier league started all this. Before they let investors come into the game, there was possibility for smaller teams in countries like Portugal or the Netherlands to win the Champions League. Now they don’t have the slightest chance because all their players are immediately sold to English Spanish or German clubs. And it is an hypocrisy to criticize the Super League and complain about the death of the PL if you don’t recognize that the PL was the main cause of the demise of the essence of football. You can’t just cherry pick where investment is good or bad. It can’t just be bad if it puts in jeopardy the PL. it is also bad if it doesn’t allow every club to be a real contender for any competition
Exactly, imagine being a fan in the Bundesliga where you know that one of the newly promoted teams in the Prem can potentially buy one of your best players.
Isn't that more related to Globalisation than anything else? Before the 1990's, most of the best ever players from the first division were either English, Scottish or Irish
UEFA are making this happen. As soon as super league was shut down they started to talking about the possibility of matches played in the US and Saudi ect. Theyre all absolutely disgusting
Exactly! Also, mark talking about the death of the 1968 European cup is insane. Back then you actually had to win your league to qualify. There are far more teams now and far more games. How is the super league any different to the current UCL? 15 games to win it now aswel! Why? Money… UEFA and FIFA have caused all of this.
@@thecrimsonlip53if you see this eufa and fifa fault this some. Reason why super league creating but all you care about is your league the prem taking all players because you guys have oil money other clubs and leagues can’t that why Barca and Madrid struggling because because our league president and you guys are afraid of us taking you good players now should be even now we have competition the format I mean I think good idea for this format uefa format is more and more games and they don’t care about there players getting injured
@@thecrimsonlip53 I don’t get this constant fear mongering saying the PL will die with the Super League. It won’t. The ESL is replacing the UCL and not the domestic league
Very good point about why Man U and Liverpool owners have changed their stance over the last year - obviously saw the way the wind was blowing. As usual all about money not the fans.
@@Tom-tu9jd but if all the big teams go to esl , slowly UCL will not be that profitable so United will join esl just for financial reason, maybe not now but definitely in near future
I honestly am struggling to care anymore. The games dead, Premier League looking more and more corrupt every week, very little amount of style in the game (everyone plays basically the same way) the excitement of the mid 00s is gone, no more individualism, no more big match feel. Greed and oil states involvement killed it.
@@andrewwright4195 those changes weren’t fundamental to the way football is run. 92 changes was a rebranding of the old first division(and was needed with the way football was going on the continent). The original Champions league expansion didn’t exclude clubs because they didnt have the right ownership or size.
UEFA: Stand together and eliminate the diabolical super League because fans mean more to football Also UEFA: Champions League as of 2024/25 season is a super league
Ikr. And there’s mark out here not saying nothing about that but bashing the super league cuz the glazers won’t leave. And also this super league is helping the clubs financially if anything. And him mentioning Brighton and the both half teams like they’re ever gonna qualify for the ucl anytime soon
Prem is just scared that they'll lose their financial advantage since all top 5 leagues will be financially equipped 😂 Prem knows that Money is the only reason they are on top and they are sh*tting in their Plastic pants becuz of the CWC 😂
Just like they've been doing since the early 90s. And most fans, eventually, lapped it up. Premier League, "Champions" League, play-offs. They are counting on people being lame again.
The champions league is turning into a clown show from next year anyway with the winning team needing to pay 15 matches to do so. And accusing someone else of greed and corruption when you have UEFA/FIFA currently in charge is rather amusing. All about money and has been for years. We crow about the PL being the best and most popular league in the world so hardly surprising it plans to go even more global.
Don't act like the PL is so clean either. Clubs like Chelsea, City, Newcastle and even less successful clubs like Villa, Everton and Wolves all received substantial money injections. Take away that money and the league quality would drop off massively.
@@AH71-m5j Don't forget Everton got point reduction for a fault that is not proven meanwhile City having 100+ charges got sympathy and support as a result they remain "clean" so PL is not that great as people think rich club get the cake poor club get point deduction
I like Mark's content but this is real bullcrap. He knows the English and German clubs aren't going to be involved. Definitely for the foreseable future.
My views have totally changed on this Super League. The owners realise UEFA/FIFA are doing the same thing but profiting themselves. Conference league, expanding the Champions League, Nations League etc.
@@TheDefenseIsUpNext Yeah it wa sdesigned to help the smaller clubs that qualify for these competitions and while I prefer the group stage system we have now compared with the new format I can understand why they chose to do it.
Doesn’t work like that mate if it’s based on biggest names clubs in the world you can bet Man Utd will be there regardless. Plus they said it’s based on sporting merit. So club history aswell
@@astrocrepz yeah well half the teams that will be in it are worse than some of the smaller clubs itll kill. And if its off merit does forest and blackburn make it in?
@@judebachelet7822 Who??! Prem clubs are small asf..They are overhyped and only big in their country.. Nobody gives a RATASS about Arsenal, City and Spurs outside England the so called big 3 of the Big 6
@@maxonpierre-c3vshut up we know theyll be there but they dont deserve it off of merit.
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Mark Goldbrige when it came to the potential takeover of United by Qatar: That's the way football is going. If you want to compete, you need money. Also Mark Goldbrige: The Super League is sickening. The Champions League is historic and needs to be protected.
How ironic for PL fans to scream no to super league when they were one of the elitist leagues that ruined football in small countries when the new UCL was introduced and gave multiple spots for qualifying to wealthy countries which ultimately led to the gap between Western and Eastern European football to become bigger and bigger
I am ambivalent about the Super League, but I think anyone should be allowed to form a league and compete on a level ground. It's irrelevant if its about money, is the Champions League or Premier League not about money?
The new champs league format is nowhere near what the super league would be. It's just essentially a big group then goes to knockout same as before but the mid table sides go into a playoff to qualify for knockout. There's 2 extra games it's not going to destroy the premier league you tit
Except in the new UCL there is no defined hierarchy, anyone can qualify, no special treatment, financial fair play is enforced, home fans/local fans can watch home games. Can you see the big differences?
Interesting as usual, Mark. You say NFL, Mark, but this is probably most similar to what is happening in American college football. Id encourage you to take a peek at the last decade or 2 in that sport.
Mate it’s all sport these days unfortunately. Cricket and the IPL. NFL like you said. NBA playing offseason games in Dubai. That’s just capitalism and the reality of the world we’re currently in I’m afraid. Sickening stuff.
I dont think many people realise how this would work. Uefa condemned this concept so much back in 2021 but their new champions league format will be quite similair and now if the super league would accepted I think the clubs would earn more money and the state owned clubs would have less advantage over everyone.
@@Joewpubut u know no matter what UEFA won’t change they decide by themselves which is why clubs don’t like them because nothing is agreed on with the clubs participating. They make stuff that benefit themselves
Liverpool created a Supporters Board after the original ESL launch in 2021, meaning the fans on this board have the final say on whether Liverpool could join a new competition and I’m pretty sure we don’t want anything to do with this.
We don't even know if English clubs will be invited yet! Actually if the ESL organisers have gotten any smarter they should focus only on continental Europe clubs and possibly Scotland, English clubs have all the reasons to stay away from such a project.
This is quite shocking. I can only pray that clubs in England, and hopefully elsewhere, have taken on board that the fans have no interest whatsoever in a Super League. If it does happen then I think many of us will opt to support clubs in the Championship and below and attendances in the Super League will collapse to Saudi levels.
The Super League is a league for Spain and Italy. Because they are a failing league. The EPL is absolutely at a disadvantage. Because it is the most popular and competitive league. As a result, a Supe
@@user-xh8tw9su8f for a failing league we sure own the premier league in europe also only reason premier is relevant is due to billionaire investors and oil money take that out what becomes of the premier.
Cant help but think had UEFA not created a horrible uncompetitive, zero jeopardy mid-week parade….then this would never have surfaced. UEFA could have done so much more with European Competitions
This is why i’ve gradually been gearing myself to watch South American football. I already have the team as I am a Millonarios fan due to my city, but there is so much more passion and tradition which hasn’t been erased. European ball has me sick
I've been going more with rugby. It's a better game, the players are more respectful, you get proper tackles, the 'VAR' system actually works and money hasn't ruined the entire sport.
PL fans can't really complaining about this. They spend the most amount of money, compare to any other leagues combined. So maybe they think it's fair for them to finally compete financially with PL. Also it's wake up call to those corrupt UEFA/FIFA/FA and be humbled. If PL let's say has fallen off popularity, it's their own fault for "the best league itw" being run with "the worst and most corrupt official itw".
I love how goldbridge has gone from a comedy reactions channel to one of the loudest, clearest and most eloquent voices standing up for (what’s left) of the game we all love.
what is left? UAFE you mean? PL clubs having a unfair competitive advantage over other leagues, all the corruption from FIFA? Guys, do you really fail to realise that UAFE has monopoly over football, whilst also being the most corrupt sporting organisation in the world. My god...
I'm a Korean who lives in US who adores football, and we genuinely do not need another competition, especially when players are overwhelmed with number of matches anyway. One or two preseason matches are great fan service, but this is just degrading the quality of the domestic league and champions league.
I don't mind it, monopolies are bad. UEFA and FIFA are corrupt organisations that mostly benefit a small group of old rich guys, and not the clubs. Given the right format a new league could be a good thing.
What a surprise! English football club sides with an organisation that has set up its competitions to benefit English teams and even introduced new modes of qualifying for them.
So now that the prem isn't get the most "attention" it's wrong.I absolutely love this it means the prem can't just spend money on money to buy the best players and dominate europe.The only people that do not want this is the prem fans I think deap down the rest of europe are happy with this
People are so brainwashed by uefa it unbelievable 😂 they created super league when they kept changing it from champions only to top 4 now to top 5 now now you get in if you been competition before 😂😂😂
The only reason Madrid, Barca, and Juve want this is due to their inability to run a proper football club. If they were somewhat competent, they wouldn't be in such financial distress.
Literally the only thing the ruling said was that the UEFA mafia can't throw clubs out of the Champions League or fine them for expressing the clubs own legal right to explore other competitions. It is an issue of entrepreneurship freedom, not greed. How Mark thinks UEFA and FIFA having total monopoly control over football clubs could be beneficial is beyond comprehension.
UEFA needs to be humbled. Plus what would be the difference anyway. Just a change of name. Since "champions league" is having the same format next season
Look, I don't particularly like the idea of the Super League, certainly the current version of it that is being presented, but that is almost entirely due to my total ignorance of the actual agenda. Now, that said, and Mark I like most of your stuff, you know absolutely the same amount of f*ck all about this as I do! EVERYTHING you said was already said when the Premier League was proposed. It will end the football league. A few teams will get richer and the rest will go bankrupt. Total domination for the richest clubs. Blah, blah, blah. None of this happened, aside from the clubs that SPENT the most money (NOT necessarily the richest - How are Man Utd looking lately? Chelsea? Blackburn? Leeds?) As for "we need to rest players on Saturday because we have Barcelona in Sweden on Wednesday", seriously? Carabao cup quarter final, Salah, Konate, Díaz and Alexander-Arnold all on the bench. Why? Because Arsenal are coming up and they wanted to rest him. For a QUARTER FINAL against another Premier League club (another Premier League club who also rested a fair few first team players, because they have Man Utd at the weekend! Well, that's it then. The League Cup, by far the weakest competition in the English top flight, is dead...right?! People have said that for 30 or 40 years. There was even a campaign to kill it at one point, but there it is. Still raking in cash and still seeing B teams played by most Premier League clubs until at least the semi-finals. The FA Cup is the most prestigious club cup competition in the world, but watch as the top few rest players in the next round, regardless of their opponents. That will be dead soon too then, right?! There is a reality and it is simple. If fans don't want to see their team play Barcelona on a Wednesday, they don't have to. And yet we don't see any empty stadiums for those games, do we? I couldn't get a ticket for ANY of Arsenal's CL away games so far this year. Not even Sevilla and I live in Spain! The bottom line is this: Until we actually KNOW what the format will be, we are at the mercy of the press and their "knowledge". Lest we forget that this is the same press that helped to get Brexit done, and look where that got the UK?! It is the same press that told us the the EU would give us square tomatoes and straight bananas! Assume that they know NOTHING at this point and, instead of talking up a storm, why not get a fans association together and actually sit down with the powers that be and find out what they are actually proposing before we start with the histrionics?! Finally, the next incarnation of the Champions League has been confirmed. It is real and is happening and the similarities to what is most likely the Super League plan are not to be dismissed. What is anybody doing about that?! "Tut!" is about it!
Agreed. And the same fans will ultimately go along with it (and fork out >£100 on shirts every year, just as they already do) just as they eventually did with the Premier League... The fans need to know we were NEVER in control. We just fell in love with a business.
Fair point I mean that not hate. Here my counter argument I don't care what it is. I won't watch it you want to give it a fair enough your life. Football is over for me as soon as that comes in..if it comes in
You're not speaking on behalf of the true local fans though. You're speaking on behalf of the plastic armchair fans. The fans that go to their clubs stadiums every week whatever the weather - they are the most important. We don't want this super league because it isn't made for us. If you want a super league then go and make up other teams and create it that way but don't take OUR clubs away from us. This stinks yet again of elitist, greedy hypocrites.
So teams like aston villa, leverkusen, girona, etc won't be able to play top tier european competition because these teams weren't even in super league 2nd tier level till last year so promotion would not help
Be honest. There are so many games in the top leagues that nobody wants to watch. Even in the Premier League, there are matches that hardly attract any spectators. As a German viewer, I would hardly be interested in games like Crystal Palace v Brighton or Fulham v Burnley. In addition, FIFA is finally losing more power as a result of the ruling. A World Cup in Qatar because of the many deaths there was a scandal. Another World Cup should go to Saudi Arabia again. What coincidences there are.
This could be great for lower level teams, when it collapses and becomes a tourism industry the rest of the English teams will flourish because fans will actually start supporting their local again. If your team signs up for this you should stop supporting them, its anti football and anti fans so they don't deserve any
@@Kazumatempest they've proposed 3 leagues with promotion in and out of the different leagues but not the tournament itself, I doubt anyone below championship would qualify, therefore this could be good for small local teams. But the Premier league has come forward and said no club would consider joining
Don’t know why people are against this💀. It’s 💯 better than the new ucl format. Mark is just ranting cuz the glazers won’t leave. And him talking about money and change like he ain’t seen the new ucl format and it isn’t all about money.
Didn't everyone hate the European Cup when it started? Didn't everyone hate the premier League when it started? People are so afraid of change it's ridiculous 😂 "cha cha changes turn and face the change"
I agree mark saying naive football wasn’t going to be this. But what they’re proposing. Doesn’t sound like progress. It sounds like regress. As a Tottenham fan I hope we never take part in this.
What do people expect Arsenal Liverpool Man U all did the same thing to create the Premier and make more money. Now it's the best league in the world. Super leagues just the same thing but on a bigger scale.
Hypocrites Prem as always.. SCARDY cats..Money is the only way they could Compete with LALIGA and Serie A so they are scared to see all leagues in line financially.. The CWC and the new Champions leagues are here to stay whether you like it or not, other TRUE authentic football leagues will become financially equipped and you'd be 3rd AGAIN! 😂
3:34 " this is globalisation of football - which is good, but it benefits nobody... " . Complete contradictory nonsense and, Yes, you really did say that!
Football's history and UEFA's pockets are two entirely different things. Right now UEFA are pocketing income from club competitions they didn't even create in the first place! How is that "history" to you?
Absolutely bang on, it’ll be the death of competitive football. I think if Premier league clubs decline to join, the Super league is almost certain to fail.
Hold on Mark, you have been a VERY public voice against UEFA and FIFA and the way they have run players into the ground and how they have greed and corruption influencing every decision they make. Sure, there is greed in the creation of the Super League but you'll find that in ANY commercial industry. WHAT'S GOOD HERE is that there will be less but higher quality games, there will be self-governance by the clubs, there will be greater profit distribution, AND it will be more entertaining! This ALSO gives some HISTORIC clubs who have suffered at the hands of UEFA a chance to once again grow into prominence. I'm surprised you have such a negative reaction to this.
As a Newcastle fan totally against it. Hopefully all Premier Clubs will now stand against it, including our owners as well as the Liverpool and Man U owners, as they have already seen the fans reaction🤞
I'm not pro Super League, but it's much easier for English fans to go against it. These last years it just feel like it's either this or the premier League will get so far ahead that it will basically be the same thing
With all the honesty, I think that we are in need of somthing to disrupt the field. Not sure if Super League is the best option, but I'm getting so tired of FA and UEFA being not transparent at all and arguebly corrupt. Maybe the pressure from another league could help make current leagues better (or it will ruin everything)...
This will actually be good. Cus local fans will start supporting non superleague teams and foreign fans will get superleague matches in their home city.
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The German clubs are likely not to join as they are 51% owned by the fans
This was also confirmed by Karl Heinz Rummenigge. They were also not part of the first try because of 50+1.
Why would the fans want German clubs to play Champions League alone? 😂😂
It will be interesting to see how they can hold on to the good players if they don’t join the league. Super league teams will make more money, will buy the best players and will have bigger squads. If super league becomes successful then teams would either have to join them or become irrelevant.
@@jzon0 European competition is important, but at the end of the day, it's about the local competition first. Especially for fans, who don't have the means to travel abroad every week.
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The premier league started all this. Before they let investors come into the game, there was possibility for smaller teams in countries like Portugal or the Netherlands to win the Champions League. Now they don’t have the slightest chance because all their players are immediately sold to English Spanish or German clubs. And it is an hypocrisy to criticize the Super League and complain about the death of the PL if you don’t recognize that the PL was the main cause of the demise of the essence of football. You can’t just cherry pick where investment is good or bad. It can’t just be bad if it puts in jeopardy the PL. it is also bad if it doesn’t allow every club to be a real contender for any competition
Boo hoo
Could not have said it better. Well done
Exactly, imagine being a fan in the Bundesliga where you know that one of the newly promoted teams in the Prem can potentially buy one of your best players.
Isn't that more related to Globalisation than anything else? Before the 1990's, most of the best ever players from the first division were either English, Scottish or Irish
Well said 👏🏼
UEFA are making this happen. As soon as super league was shut down they started to talking about the possibility of matches played in the US and Saudi ect. Theyre all absolutely disgusting
Uefa and fifa are fighting against this decision tf u talking about
so fight against uefa? Youre literally complaining about what they were doing, AND THEN SUPPORTING ANOTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE DOING IT YOU HYPOCRITE.
@@compostsmurf5519they made the super league mate champion league next year and club world cup Is super league
Exactly!
Also, mark talking about the death of the 1968 European cup is insane.
Back then you actually had to win your league to qualify.
There are far more teams now and far more games. How is the super league any different to the current UCL?
15 games to win it now aswel! Why? Money…
UEFA and FIFA have caused all of this.
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With how greedy UEFA look with their new Champions League format I couldn’t careless
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@@Asdf12219fuck the super league the premier league will die something a lot of us grew up with it can jog on for all I care
@@thecrimsonlip53if you see this eufa and fifa fault this some. Reason why super league creating but all you care about is your league the prem taking all players because you guys have oil money other clubs and leagues can’t that why Barca and Madrid struggling because because our league president and you guys are afraid of us taking you good players now should be even now we have competition the format I mean I think good idea for this format uefa format is more and more games and they don’t care about there players getting injured
@@thecrimsonlip53 I don’t get this constant fear mongering saying the PL will die with the Super League. It won’t. The ESL is replacing the UCL and not the domestic league
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Here every people had no brain it said domestic league performance will matter they thinking UEFA is a saint
The new Champions league setup is a super league people just haven’t realised it yet.
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Absolutely!! Absolutely!! Whether we get Super league or not, the new Champions league is the new Cash cow..And we LOVE IT!! 💙❤️💙❤️🐐
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Yes, very similar
Very good point about why Man U and Liverpool owners have changed their stance over the last year - obviously saw the way the wind was blowing. As usual all about money not the fans.
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United have put a statement out saying that regardless of the ruling they will stay with UEFA competitions and the Premier League
@@Tom-tu9jd but if all the big teams go to esl , slowly UCL will not be that profitable so United will join esl just for financial reason, maybe not now but definitely in near future
Mark gone mad as it's just France, Spain and Italy.
He gone mad here
@@arrow2380 Yeah I agree. They’re probably playing the long game to keep the fans onside for now…
I honestly am struggling to care anymore. The games dead, Premier League looking more and more corrupt every week, very little amount of style in the game (everyone plays basically the same way) the excitement of the mid 00s is gone, no more individualism, no more big match feel. Greed and oil states involvement killed it.
Absolutely, Prem is scared to lose their financial advantage the only way they can compete anyways..
They were 3rd before all these Money 😂😂
@@Dante--XDo you mean the 1st division? The Premier league when it started, started off with a bunch of money from the broadcasting deal with Sky.
Totally agree, football peaked around the early 00s. Too many reasons to list here.
You Only found that out now mate😂
I agree. I don't care. Not really.
I swear I am done if this goes through I will literally divorce myself from football
But you was ok with 92 changes or champion league changes over the years 😂
Shut the door on your way out brother
@@andrewwright4195 those changes weren’t fundamental to the way football is run. 92 changes was a rebranding of the old first division(and was needed with the way football was going on the continent). The original Champions league expansion didn’t exclude clubs because they didnt have the right ownership or size.
@@andrewwright4195most changes have been made to get more teams into the competition for more games. This is not a natural progression, it's greed.
@@DSAVAGE92 it wasn't needed because big clubs who had most money would screw over small clubs like today
UEFA: Stand together and eliminate the diabolical super League because fans mean more to football
Also UEFA: Champions League as of 2024/25 season is a super league
Well said m8
Why do u think they changed it
Ikr. And there’s mark out here not saying nothing about that but bashing the super league cuz the glazers won’t leave. And also this super league is helping the clubs financially if anything. And him mentioning Brighton and the both half teams like they’re ever gonna qualify for the ucl anytime soon
Prem is just scared that they'll lose their financial advantage since all top 5 leagues will be financially equipped 😂
Prem knows that Money is the only reason they are on top and they are sh*tting in their Plastic pants becuz of the CWC 😂
Hmmm, so UEFA has started the Super Leauge? Did not know that.
An organised minority of teams will always defeat a disorganised majority of fans.
Just like they've been doing since the early 90s. And most fans, eventually, lapped it up. Premier League, "Champions" League, play-offs. They are counting on people being lame again.
True, true.
The disorganised fans didn't even know what they were protesting against back in 2021.
Based and elite-theorypilled
I guess you are right, in perspective of the big support for Man. City.
The champions league is turning into a clown show from next year anyway with the winning team needing to pay 15 matches to do so. And accusing someone else of greed and corruption when you have UEFA/FIFA currently in charge is rather amusing.
All about money and has been for years. We crow about the PL being the best and most popular league in the world so hardly surprising it plans to go even more global.
Don't act like the PL is so clean either. Clubs like Chelsea, City, Newcastle and even less successful clubs like Villa, Everton and Wolves all received substantial money injections. Take away that money and the league quality would drop off massively.
@@AH71-m5j Facts!
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Don't forget Everton got point reduction for a fault that is not proven meanwhile City having 100+ charges got sympathy and support as a result they remain "clean" so PL is not that great as people think rich club get the cake poor club get point deduction
I like Mark's content but this is real bullcrap.
He knows the English and German clubs aren't going to be involved. Definitely for the foreseable future.
Your speaking facts
My views have totally changed on this Super League. The owners realise UEFA/FIFA are doing the same thing but profiting themselves. Conference league, expanding the Champions League, Nations League etc.
Those expansions are meant to get smaller teams more television money and are better expansions for the game than this monopolistic garbage
@@TheDefenseIsUpNext Yeah it wa sdesigned to help the smaller clubs that qualify for these competitions and while I prefer the group stage system we have now compared with the new format I can understand why they chose to do it.
@@sjsharp2007I nearly had a stroke trying to read that mess of letters you just typed.
Even if there's a super league, it'll be joke if Utd are in it given the situation we're in now..
Doesn’t work like that mate if it’s based on biggest names clubs in the world you can bet Man Utd will be there regardless. Plus they said it’s based on sporting merit. So club history aswell
@@astrocrepz yeah well half the teams that will be in it are worse than some of the smaller clubs itll kill. And if its off merit does forest and blackburn make it in?
@@judebachelet7822 Who??! Prem clubs are small asf..They are overhyped and only big in their country..
Nobody gives a RATASS about Arsenal, City and Spurs outside England the so called big 3 of the Big 6
Man utd are going to be there 💯
They have the history and the fan base
More money for the organizers
@@maxonpierre-c3vshut up we know theyll be there but they dont deserve it off of merit.
Mark Goldbrige when it came to the potential takeover of United by Qatar: That's the way football is going. If you want to compete, you need money.
Also Mark Goldbrige: The Super League is sickening. The Champions League is historic and needs to be protected.
If hypocrisy had a face Mark would be the face of it
Need that 50+1 ownership like Bundesliga
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we wont get that
Ain't happening
mad people want the prem to change its entire structure when it’s successfully taken over world football in little over a decade…
That would destroy the premier league lol
UEFA: "Earn it on the pitch" unless you're an oil club with billions of oil money backing you, then you can break millions of FFP charges!
How ironic for PL fans to scream no to super league when they were one of the elitist leagues that ruined football in small countries when the new UCL was introduced and gave multiple spots for qualifying to wealthy countries which ultimately led to the gap between Western and Eastern European football to become bigger and bigger
I am ambivalent about the Super League, but I think anyone should be allowed to form a league and compete on a level ground. It's irrelevant if its about money, is the Champions League or Premier League not about money?
they just don't want English teams to be affected lol if the Super league let all Prem teams join none of their fans would care.
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did u even watch the video?
Anyone should be allowed to with the consent of the fans.
no prem fan wants anything to do with that shitty league@@anis6800
the ucl new format is no different to the super league 😂
The new champs league format is nowhere near what the super league would be. It's just essentially a big group then goes to knockout same as before but the mid table sides go into a playoff to qualify for knockout. There's 2 extra games it's not going to destroy the premier league you tit
because uefa wanted to make their own version of it so this situation wouldn't happen.
@@varmu_ no
Except in the new UCL there is no defined hierarchy, anyone can qualify, no special treatment, financial fair play is enforced, home fans/local fans can watch home games. Can you see the big differences?
@@kaylanhussein8436uh.. anyone can go up the Superleague ranks if you win. Get a clue.
The fight back starts now we’ve done it before we will do it again. Keep football great ❤
its better
super league wasnt made for pl teams anyway ..they cannot compete against the saudis financially, let alone super league clubs..
@@XXBlueThanosXX no it’s not!
how its not rm and barca literally cant compete with no money they arent oiled clubs like city@@Iwan__CFC
premier leasgue clubs r gonna be bad when other teams get money@@Iwan__CFC
Let's be real, this was bound to happen, nothing stays the same forever, everything changes. Change is constant.
Such wisdom.
Yep think this natural end to my following of football your right everything changes. I wonder how long until a new sport takes over football domance
Absolutely..They are scared to lose their financial advantage 😂😂
Change is inevitable but some institutions are preserved in history.
@@Dante--Xscary how even with the PL money they still struggle massively in Europe (bar city). Those PL teams will be dead when the SL happens 😭.
The domination of UEFA and FIFA is over. Finally.
It's just changing who's bending you over, not stopping you from being bent over.
finally not really you do realize fifa hosts the world cup
Absolutely spot on as always Mark. You are the ambassador to all true football fans around the world!
This is the reason the champions league has a new format. UEFA knew they would lose this case
Well said Mark. Spot on as usual mate.
No he isn't because 92 killed all small clubs
@@andrewwright4195not our fault they cant afford rich owners
@@ClixCFC Now you just sound like a hypocrite.
@@jimcannibal4911 how
Football needs to evolve, they are right, UEFA and FIFA have a monopoly, competition is good, grow up mark
Interesting as usual, Mark. You say NFL, Mark, but this is probably most similar to what is happening in American college football. Id encourage you to take a peek at the last decade or 2 in that sport.
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@@Asdf12219bring your third world energy elsewhere
Mate it’s all sport these days unfortunately. Cricket and the IPL. NFL like you said. NBA playing offseason games in Dubai. That’s just capitalism and the reality of the world we’re currently in I’m afraid. Sickening stuff.
Absolutely agre with Mark! And Klopp regarding this
Wait what if klop is leaving football because of this
I dont think many people realise how this would work. Uefa condemned this concept so much back in 2021 but their new champions league format will be quite similair and now if the super league would accepted I think the clubs would earn more money and the state owned clubs would have less advantage over everyone.
which is why BOTH need to be protested
@@Joewpubut u know no matter what UEFA won’t change they decide by themselves which is why clubs don’t like them because nothing is agreed on with the clubs participating. They make stuff that benefit themselves
Liverpool created a Supporters Board after the original ESL launch in 2021, meaning the fans on this board have the final say on whether Liverpool could join a new competition and I’m pretty sure we don’t want anything to do with this.
Money changes everything.
We don't even know if English clubs will be invited yet! Actually if the ESL organisers have gotten any smarter they should focus only on continental Europe clubs and possibly Scotland, English clubs have all the reasons to stay away from such a project.
We? I assume by we YOU are on this board🤔
We don't
@TP-pq9xx exactly and that's assuming they have any power in the first place. They could easily be paid to just be there for show
This is quite shocking. I can only pray that clubs in England, and hopefully elsewhere, have taken on board that the fans have no interest whatsoever in a Super League.
If it does happen then I think many of us will opt to support clubs in the Championship and below and attendances in the Super League will collapse to Saudi levels.
The Super League is a league for Spain and Italy. Because they are a failing league. The EPL is absolutely at a disadvantage. Because it is the most popular and competitive league. As a result, a Supe
But the new format is pretty good. More competitive than the proposed new UCL format
@@user-xh8tw9su8f for a failing league we sure own the premier league in europe also only reason premier is relevant is due to billionaire investors and oil money take that out what becomes of the premier.
Glazers are in there for sure! this is crap.
@@user-xh8tw9su8f nah, bro
Honestly if this happens, that’s it for me. Football has truly lost its soul
yeah all clubs should sell themselves to arab seikhs and save themselves
😂😂@@samarpanrai5924
No it wouldn't super league is the way forward
What makes you think it had any soul to begin with ?
selling your club to qatar makes you have a soul
Cant help but think had UEFA not created a horrible uncompetitive, zero jeopardy mid-week parade….then this would never have surfaced.
UEFA could have done so much more with European Competitions
UEFA were bullied by the clubs since the 1990s. People like Berlusconi. Why do people forget this?
@@AffectedArea Then UEFA are useless and not needed. Why let them take their cut of the action for doing nothing?
What are you referencing?
This is why i’ve gradually been gearing myself to watch South American football. I already have the team as I am a Millonarios fan due to my city, but there is so much more passion and tradition which hasn’t been erased. European ball has me sick
I've been going more with rugby. It's a better game, the players are more respectful, you get proper tackles, the 'VAR' system actually works and money hasn't ruined the entire sport.
PL fans can't really complaining about this. They spend the most amount of money, compare to any other leagues combined. So maybe they think it's fair for them to finally compete financially with PL. Also it's wake up call to those corrupt UEFA/FIFA/FA and be humbled. If PL let's say has fallen off popularity, it's their own fault for "the best league itw" being run with "the worst and most corrupt official itw".
I love how goldbridge has gone from a comedy reactions channel to one of the loudest, clearest and most eloquent voices standing up for (what’s left) of the game we all love.
what is left? UAFE you mean? PL clubs having a unfair competitive advantage over other leagues, all the corruption from FIFA? Guys, do you really fail to realise that UAFE has monopoly over football, whilst also being the most corrupt sporting organisation in the world. My god...
the guy that wants qatar as owners and your saying he is standing up for whats left of the game are you drunk or on drugs🤣
@@KazumatempestDude are you expecting logical reasoning from football fans??
UEFA and FIFA deserve it
I'm a Korean who lives in US who adores football, and we genuinely do not need another competition, especially when players are overwhelmed with number of matches anyway. One or two preseason matches are great fan service, but this is just degrading the quality of the domestic league and champions league.
Super league basically pre season friendly games be awful quality
I don't mind it, monopolies are bad. UEFA and FIFA are corrupt organisations that mostly benefit a small group of old rich guys, and not the clubs. Given the right format a new league could be a good thing.
Well said mark
The main reason there's such resistance from Britian is that the big money now are in Premiership and they don't want to share
As a chelsea fan im disgusted if my club enters this farce again 😢
Boehly probably will they are known to get money income they ve spent 1 billion already😂
not disgusted about russian mafia investor or the yank investor?
@@Matthew_Broderick I don't like any of these massive take overs...but thats not what marks video is about or ehat the discussion is about in general
@@kieranduchayla6657 your League started it all. Justsayin
@@Matthew_BroderickNo we are not disgusted by investors who make our clubs win trophies and become the best in the world.
United just issued a statement saying they’re still committed to UEFA!
What a surprise! English football club sides with an organisation that has set up its competitions to benefit English teams and even introduced new modes of qualifying for them.
When United globalized in the 80s-90s and out performed everyone because of making insane money, you weren’t complaining 😂
The guy is a plastic.
So many young fans only watch highlights on RUclips and tiktok. And alot support players instead of clubs. Very sad
So now that the prem isn't get the most "attention" it's wrong.I absolutely love this it means the prem can't just spend money on money to buy the best players and dominate europe.The only people that do not want this is the prem fans I think deap down the rest of europe are happy with this
You lot did it way way earlier now it's a problem now that your era is gone smh
@@timmyjoshua276yes now it's state owned clubs era? lmao imagine crying about a super league while Saudi and Qatar owns half your league
If this happens I won't be a football fan full stop so enjoy the money spinner...oh sorry football
@@anis6800 state ownership is better than this crap
@@anis6800And whate wrong with saudi and qatari owners.They have made our clubs the best in the world so why sjould i complain
so youre sad and more sad which brings joy
If this happens ill find myself a championship side
Good ridance.
@@mebe4367Joker
It’s said “good riddance”, tool
IT’S A DISGRACE!
AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE!
DISGUSTING!
Let’s see if u don’t do super league watchalongs….
It dosent matter what country you call home, EVERYONE is against this "Superleague"
People are so brainwashed by uefa it unbelievable 😂 they created super league when they kept changing it from champions only to top 4 now to top 5 now now you get in if you been competition before 😂😂😂
You won’t get into the competition because you have played before. They changed that over a year ago due to backlash
Look how successful the NFL is
The only reason Madrid, Barca, and Juve want this is due to their inability to run a proper football club. If they were somewhat competent, they wouldn't be in such financial distress.
Spot on! If this evolves it will cause absolute chaos! It's just pure greed.
Can’t believe the beautiful game is dying. Made by the poor stolen by the rich.
Stolen by the greedy. Players included.
Has been stolen by the rich since the 90's..
Literally the only thing the ruling said was that the UEFA mafia can't throw clubs out of the Champions League or fine them for expressing the clubs own legal right to explore other competitions. It is an issue of entrepreneurship freedom, not greed. How Mark thinks UEFA and FIFA having total monopoly control over football clubs could be beneficial is beyond comprehension.
It’s Stockholm syndrome- they have abused football for long enough
UEFA needs to be humbled. Plus what would be the difference anyway. Just a change of name. Since "champions league" is having the same format next season
Some people are pro super league because they are tired of the corrupt Prem league
Look, I don't particularly like the idea of the Super League, certainly the current version of it that is being presented, but that is almost entirely due to my total ignorance of the actual agenda. Now, that said, and Mark I like most of your stuff, you know absolutely the same amount of f*ck all about this as I do!
EVERYTHING you said was already said when the Premier League was proposed. It will end the football league. A few teams will get richer and the rest will go bankrupt. Total domination for the richest clubs. Blah, blah, blah. None of this happened, aside from the clubs that SPENT the most money (NOT necessarily the richest - How are Man Utd looking lately? Chelsea? Blackburn? Leeds?)
As for "we need to rest players on Saturday because we have Barcelona in Sweden on Wednesday", seriously? Carabao cup quarter final, Salah, Konate, Díaz and Alexander-Arnold all on the bench. Why? Because Arsenal are coming up and they wanted to rest him. For a QUARTER FINAL against another Premier League club (another Premier League club who also rested a fair few first team players, because they have Man Utd at the weekend!
Well, that's it then. The League Cup, by far the weakest competition in the English top flight, is dead...right?! People have said that for 30 or 40 years. There was even a campaign to kill it at one point, but there it is. Still raking in cash and still seeing B teams played by most Premier League clubs until at least the semi-finals. The FA Cup is the most prestigious club cup competition in the world, but watch as the top few rest players in the next round, regardless of their opponents. That will be dead soon too then, right?!
There is a reality and it is simple. If fans don't want to see their team play Barcelona on a Wednesday, they don't have to. And yet we don't see any empty stadiums for those games, do we? I couldn't get a ticket for ANY of Arsenal's CL away games so far this year. Not even Sevilla and I live in Spain!
The bottom line is this: Until we actually KNOW what the format will be, we are at the mercy of the press and their "knowledge". Lest we forget that this is the same press that helped to get Brexit done, and look where that got the UK?! It is the same press that told us the the EU would give us square tomatoes and straight bananas! Assume that they know NOTHING at this point and, instead of talking up a storm, why not get a fans association together and actually sit down with the powers that be and find out what they are actually proposing before we start with the histrionics?!
Finally, the next incarnation of the Champions League has been confirmed. It is real and is happening and the similarities to what is most likely the Super League plan are not to be dismissed. What is anybody doing about that?! "Tut!" is about it!
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Agreed. And the same fans will ultimately go along with it (and fork out >£100 on shirts every year, just as they already do) just as they eventually did with the Premier League...
The fans need to know we were NEVER in control. We just fell in love with a business.
Fair point I mean that not hate. Here my counter argument
I don't care what it is. I won't watch it you want to give it a fair enough your life. Football is over for me as soon as that comes in..if it comes in
You're not speaking on behalf of the true local fans though. You're speaking on behalf of the plastic armchair fans.
The fans that go to their clubs stadiums every week whatever the weather - they are the most important.
We don't want this super league because it isn't made for us. If you want a super league then go and make up other teams and create it that way but don't take OUR clubs away from us. This stinks yet again of elitist, greedy hypocrites.
How about we all start supporting United FC of Manchester instead?
So teams like aston villa, leverkusen, girona, etc won't be able to play top tier european competition because these teams weren't even in super league 2nd tier level till last year so promotion would not help
Best comment on here. People are missing the point that this is yet again another form of elitism that isn't fair.
Be honest. There are so many games in the top leagues that nobody wants to watch. Even in the Premier League, there are matches that hardly attract any spectators. As a German viewer, I would hardly be interested in games like Crystal Palace v Brighton or Fulham v Burnley.
In addition, FIFA is finally losing more power as a result of the ruling. A World Cup in Qatar because of the many deaths there was a scandal. Another World Cup should go to Saudi Arabia again. What coincidences there are.
The premier league has itself to blame
For getting ahead of other leagues?The european super league is a cowardly league
Man was really happy when ManU were being bought by a state and is now crying about power of money and monopoly
This could be great for lower level teams, when it collapses and becomes a tourism industry the rest of the English teams will flourish because fans will actually start supporting their local again.
If your team signs up for this you should stop supporting them, its anti football and anti fans so they don't deserve any
That’s exactly what I think
that’s actually a very good point
you do know anyone can join the super league even small teams and they can get promoted.
@@Kazumatempest they've proposed 3 leagues with promotion in and out of the different leagues but not the tournament itself, I doubt anyone below championship would qualify, therefore this could be good for small local teams.
But the Premier league has come forward and said no club would consider joining
People will get bored eventually. Why would i want to see top clubs making matches between each other in every week.
Yep I’m probably gonna go over to USA to watch messi play for inter Miami
Don’t know why people are against this💀. It’s 💯 better than the new ucl format. Mark is just ranting cuz the glazers won’t leave. And him talking about money and change like he ain’t seen the new ucl format and it isn’t all about money.
Don't know how any moron can actually be in favour of it.
Didn't everyone hate the European Cup when it started? Didn't everyone hate the premier League when it started? People are so afraid of change it's ridiculous 😂 "cha cha changes turn and face the change"
Nobody hated the European Cup
I agree mark saying naive football wasn’t going to be this. But what they’re proposing. Doesn’t sound like progress. It sounds like regress. As a Tottenham fan I hope we never take part in this.
What do people expect Arsenal Liverpool Man U all did the same thing to create the Premier and make more money. Now it's the best league in the world. Super leagues just the same thing but on a bigger scale.
We can’t let this happen
its gonna happen no one cares about yall football is saved
It’s better than the new ucl format?
you cannot do anything
Hypocrites Prem as always.. SCARDY cats..Money is the only way they could Compete with LALIGA and Serie A so they are scared to see all leagues in line financially..
The CWC and the new Champions leagues are here to stay whether you like it or not, other TRUE authentic football leagues will become financially equipped and you'd be 3rd AGAIN! 😂
It’s funny how small hats fighting for money
3:34 " this is globalisation of football - which is good, but it benefits nobody... "
. Complete contradictory nonsense and, Yes, you really did say that!
Mark the new champions league format next season is like for like the Super League.
Our sport is built on jeopardy. If you take away the jeopardy, you take away the identity. Might as well start calling it soccer.
Well said Mark . Football has a rich history don’t kill it
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Football's history and UEFA's pockets are two entirely different things. Right now UEFA are pocketing income from club competitions they didn't even create in the first place! How is that "history" to you?
Football has a rich history so let's let UEFA keep on making tons of money instead of giving it to the clubs.
Absolutely bang on, it’ll be the death of competitive football. I think if Premier league clubs decline to join, the Super league is almost certain to fail.
carabao, fa, europa league, confrence cup are about to be killed by this, the domestic leagues and ucl will be lucky to still be competitive
We are with you, we as fans need to show them we don't want this
Change is always constant.
The moment the British started selling clubs to Americans and Arabs is when they sacrificed their power over the destiny of the Premier League.
Hold on Mark, you have been a VERY public voice against UEFA and FIFA and the way they have run players into the ground and how they have greed and corruption influencing every decision they make. Sure, there is greed in the creation of the Super League but you'll find that in ANY commercial industry. WHAT'S GOOD HERE is that there will be less but higher quality games, there will be self-governance by the clubs, there will be greater profit distribution, AND it will be more entertaining! This ALSO gives some HISTORIC clubs who have suffered at the hands of UEFA a chance to once again grow into prominence. I'm surprised you have such a negative reaction to this.
Which historic clubs?
The only positive thing I can see about this is no more man cheaty in the premier league
As a Newcastle fan totally against it. Hopefully all Premier Clubs will now stand against it, including our owners as well as the Liverpool and Man U owners, as they have already seen the fans reaction🤞
It's coming and can do absolutely nothing about it because it's always about the money. Football was dead when BSkyB and the premier league was formed
The fsg group and Glazers don't care about fan reaction
@@englishmike1800 it's going to happen no doubt about it. Everything points to it. That's why Liverpool and man u never sold up
Lmao, but you have no problem receiving money from Saudi Arabia? Clubs like Newcastle are the problem lol.
@@AH71-m5j I'm a Liverpool fan
Uefa also doing the same thing
So All are kind of same
I can't decide now how to react, probably go with the natural outcome or flow now..😒
Mark you are a wizard. You managed to say everything I’m thinking about with a more awesome accent and elite metaphors.
True..but ain’t that the same idea and argument when the premier league was proposed ?
NFL doesn't do anything like this, its literally just a domestic sports league in 1 country
I was with you until you said about playing in Korea because I live in Korea so suddenly I was like "Maybe this is a good idea after all!"
Literally every club is rejecting it they know something is fishy 😂
I do not really understand why many British do not understand the reasons behind the super league
This an absolute disaster. You are absolutely correct Mark, it's all about greed by these owners.
Ive just watched the model stucture video released by A22 and to be honest it sounds better than the new format of the CL in my opinion mark.
I wont care if this happens, no one should care, shouldn't be a thing, its only to make money for the big clubs
I'm not pro Super League, but it's much easier for English fans to go against it. These last years it just feel like it's either this or the premier League will get so far ahead that it will basically be the same thing
Bro stop miss informing people like your league is so pure don't forget you are owned by middle eastern and usa
With all the honesty, I think that we are in need of somthing to disrupt the field. Not sure if Super League is the best option, but I'm getting so tired of FA and UEFA being not transparent at all and arguebly corrupt. Maybe the pressure from another league could help make current leagues better (or it will ruin everything)...
This will actually be good. Cus local fans will start supporting non superleague teams and foreign fans will get superleague matches in their home city.
@tanu.47 They won’t. There are less and less proper fans
The champions league new format is much worse than the new super league format.
Super League FTW! LETS GOOO
It'll just be 2 clubs. It's not coming back.