Join my library discord (Phantom's Library): discord.gg/fnhkyz5B4E waw..... after edit for like 25 days(including my sickness over 1 week oof) btw there note changes on this video, please check this comment below tbh, i made a lot of effort on making this video >.< Kindly share this video to your friends if you enjoy this vid :D Detailed timestamp :) #0 0:00 Basic Aggro #1 0:46 Attention note #2 0:56 Timestamp of 10 Aggro part #3 1:34 Aggro Types #4 3:03 Attack Skill doesn't reach target = no aggro #5 3:38 Real/Official Aggro Theory 1mp = 10ap #6 5:48 Wcos regis affected by aggro% from eq #7 6:18 Round Down Aggro #8 7:54 Shukuchi Self-Buff trick #9 9:04 Halves mp buff like Impact affect aggro? #10 9:51 Combo tags affect aggro? #11 10:13 Weapon Bonus that has -/+mp cost affect? #12 11:06 Skill uses all mp vs halves mp buff like impact #13 11:59 Skill uses all mp vs combo tags #14 12:38 Skill uses all mp with save tag #15 13:17 Skill miss = gain aggro? #16 14:13 Auto attack miss = gain aggro? #17 14:52 Skill evaded = gain aggro? #18 15:18 Aggro vs +24m away #19 16:19 Still can generate aggro at +24m #20 17:44 Never steal at +24m #21 19:13 Steal Aggro "x" the secret value #22 21:09 do aggro% from eq affect that x? #23 21:46 Steal Aggro with Provoke #24 22:47 Steal Aggro with additional skill like Binding #25 23:17 Defender Merc Aggro #26 24:41 Only Attack/target skill get aggro bonus #27 25:45 Defender Merc Provoke get aggro bonus? #28 26:21 Defender Merc with non-attack target skill #29 26:46 Guardian: Auto-generate aggro formula #30 28:08 Multi Guardian explanation #31 28:58 Proof of Multi Guardian #32 29:47 Shield Refine affect Guardian #33 30:13 Guardian with -100% aggro from eq #34 31:12 Guardian with Provoke #35 31:54 Guardian Skill Level may affect #36 32:28 Proof Guardian affect auto-generate aggro #37 32:42 Proof why link changes = reset auto-generate time #38 34:19 Guardian user cannot receive damage taken reduct from guardian #39 35:03 Guardian user cannot receive ampr party buff as well #40 36:00 Special Thanks and Credits
btw, i am aware some1 might complain "Basic Aggro" in this vid still use 1mp = 1ap. Yep, i do that because following old vid Arkana Aria "How Does Aggro actually work" ruclips.net/video/ZlnhFsqeabg/видео.html&t Also because in this vid hab number 2 = Real/Official Aggro value(1mp = 10ap). I wanted to make it interesting for those who doesn't know or i d say wanted to make history/storytelling. But for those who alrdy know... oh well.... i can say sry if you feel bit uncomfortable :( if it was reason like some ppl watch up to Basic aggro only, Haiyaaa, it is not fun goin for that. Especially in this long in-depth guide (where more useful info in the end lmao). Even i added timestamp that show number 2 Real Aggro value(which is kinda fishy to any1, y know) and it is literaly takes place after Basic aggro tutorial end too.... man... i hope this help clear experienced ppl's misunderstanding anyways.
Thanks for 900 sub :D Update Changes on 50th: There something wrong related to Multi Guardian. At first, i thought +aggro% only happen with Multi Guardian. Until some1 confirm me that, this +aggro% already applied with just ur guardian alone. I am not sure why they didnt add that on forum(that time mayam/theXiiithGuy contributor). Maybe all i can say i blame myself(forget to test guardian only) or asobimo for being secretly add secret self buff effect. But no blame anyway... it is very Good update indeed 0.o free +86-90% aggro woooooo, even multiplicatively with aggro% from eq
it's important but many global players don't even know. I get struck by Venena's pillar everytime bc our dps doesn't have aggro reduc and just spam skills
The actual aggro value confused me xD. I know it's just hundreds turned into thousands, but it still confusing because of how high the numbers are hahaha. edit: ps. Thanks a lot for compiling everything! You even made it in a way everyone could digest it easily. Your effort and passion is commendable. 😌✨ Thanks Joji!!
Hi Joji, I have a question about aggro generated when we play with -100%aggro. As far as I know, even I play with -100 aggro stat, I can still steal the aggro. (If I play with friend, then friend use qa for taunting boss and afk, the boss can target me even if my stat -100%aggro if I use certain skill). Certain skill that I have already checked = brave, war cry, decoy shot. Do you have any explanation about it? Do you know which skill type that doesnt affected by -aggro stat (maybe party buff aggro), or is just exceptional skill? (Like decoy, is it categorized as attack skill (?)) I already watching ur full video, but i havent found the answer or maybe i just missed it
GREAT vid. I hope there will be some cases in future when we will need that double guardian buff... Well, coryn candy staff + guardian = support for tank ?xD Thanks a lot for explanations!
i had to remind you, that there updates changes in desc Apparently, we dont need double guardian for that. That +aggro% already there with just guardian alone. :< but better than nothin tbh i thought there no +aggro% in self buff, even judgin by amino or forum(where mayam & xiithguy were contributors that time). Oh well Asobimo secretly added yooo
Ty for the info joji-san, this mustve been alot of work for you guys. 20:21 this is very valuable information, could this mean that staff tank can use finale for aggro steal? :)) And also I would like to clarify about the multi-guardian test. Is it good for a party to have 2 guardian users? And is it recommended that tanks use guardian? How are support skills aggro calculated(auras)? Thankss
but usually tank just hold aggro, rarely steal aggro XD It is rare to have 2 guardian, except kidnap revenir friend XD, thought they may don't know this mystery multi guardian anyway Support Skills aggro calc already there in amino/PL hmm, if that so each aura = (30 + 30 per ppl connected) per 3 sec 1mp = 10ap
@@monmon-hy5ql btw, changes on multi guardian. that +aggro% was from guardian alone(no multi) i forgot to test guardian only(because i thought it is not there, but got tricked bruh) Well... it is free +86-90% aggro from guardian alone secret self-buff :D
Im still confused about how aggro works... Today i just tried avalanche +100% aggro buff, and spamming 500 mp skill (so it should be 5000 aggro x 200% = 10000 aggro per skill),,, spamming it like 4 times in under 10 seconds, so it means i just produced 40k aggro,. But one of the dps could still steal the aggro from me, and get aimed by the boss (i tried cerberus ulti),,, its been 3 times, until finally i switched my tank to semi dps (i made tank-dps-support MD char) .... And then i got my lv 10 provoke skill, and spammed it 3 times, but sometimes one of the dps could still steal the aggro... I wonder if aggro has it's duration, like after 5 seconds, the aggro will decreased??? What do you think Joji?
It's an amazing work, really appreciate it. And i have a question on some bosses including guild raid... Attacking/self buff/single target aggro at 1 enemy (either mob or boss) will start aggro on both, if non aggro holder uses non party buff skills at only 1 enemy either mob or boss, will it sparate the aggro or still applies on both mob and boss?
if i recall correctly, non aggro holder use non party buff still no aggro if you don't hit them before or party buff first... However, if you hit one(boss) of two enemies(boss & mob) only, then using non-party buff will result aggro on boss only. if u mean separate aggro such as divided, there no such thing like that. It is just remain same on both ikr, example berserk 5mp on 2 enemies = still 5000 aggro on both 2 enemies.
Because qi charge is unique skill Its mp cost based on current mp you have, meaning uses all mp. Qi charge save auto 0mp cost 0mp save bank no aggro To avoid abuse i suppose.... it is too op y know kekw.
@@KeiNow other ofc will gain aggro normally. But keep that in mind, qi charge is skill that use all current mp, so yeah, there other skill like that(for now there, Arcane Strike from Assassin tree, Explosion from Konosuba event limited sg)
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waw..... after edit for like 25 days(including my sickness over 1 week oof)
btw there note changes on this video, please check this comment below
tbh, i made a lot of effort on making this video >.<
Kindly share this video to your friends if you enjoy this vid :D
Detailed timestamp :)
#0 0:00 Basic Aggro
#1 0:46 Attention note
#2 0:56 Timestamp of 10 Aggro part
#3 1:34 Aggro Types
#4 3:03 Attack Skill doesn't reach target = no aggro
#5 3:38 Real/Official Aggro Theory 1mp = 10ap
#6 5:48 Wcos regis affected by aggro% from eq
#7 6:18 Round Down Aggro
#8 7:54 Shukuchi Self-Buff trick
#9 9:04 Halves mp buff like Impact affect aggro?
#10 9:51 Combo tags affect aggro?
#11 10:13 Weapon Bonus that has -/+mp cost affect?
#12 11:06 Skill uses all mp vs halves mp buff like impact
#13 11:59 Skill uses all mp vs combo tags
#14 12:38 Skill uses all mp with save tag
#15 13:17 Skill miss = gain aggro?
#16 14:13 Auto attack miss = gain aggro?
#17 14:52 Skill evaded = gain aggro?
#18 15:18 Aggro vs +24m away
#19 16:19 Still can generate aggro at +24m
#20 17:44 Never steal at +24m
#21 19:13 Steal Aggro "x" the secret value
#22 21:09 do aggro% from eq affect that x?
#23 21:46 Steal Aggro with Provoke
#24 22:47 Steal Aggro with additional skill like Binding
#25 23:17 Defender Merc Aggro
#26 24:41 Only Attack/target skill get aggro bonus
#27 25:45 Defender Merc Provoke get aggro bonus?
#28 26:21 Defender Merc with non-attack target skill
#29 26:46 Guardian: Auto-generate aggro formula
#30 28:08 Multi Guardian explanation
#31 28:58 Proof of Multi Guardian
#32 29:47 Shield Refine affect Guardian
#33 30:13 Guardian with -100% aggro from eq
#34 31:12 Guardian with Provoke
#35 31:54 Guardian Skill Level may affect
#36 32:28 Proof Guardian affect auto-generate aggro
#37 32:42 Proof why link changes = reset auto-generate time
#38 34:19 Guardian user cannot receive damage taken reduct from guardian
#39 35:03 Guardian user cannot receive ampr party buff as well
#40 36:00 Special Thanks and Credits
btw, i am aware some1 might complain "Basic Aggro" in this vid still use 1mp = 1ap.
Yep, i do that because following old vid Arkana Aria "How Does Aggro actually work" ruclips.net/video/ZlnhFsqeabg/видео.html&t
Also because in this vid hab number 2 = Real/Official Aggro value(1mp = 10ap). I wanted to make it interesting for those who doesn't know or i d say wanted to make history/storytelling. But for those who alrdy know... oh well.... i can say sry if you feel bit uncomfortable :(
if it was reason like some ppl watch up to Basic aggro only,
Haiyaaa, it is not fun goin for that. Especially in this long in-depth guide (where more useful info in the end lmao). Even i added timestamp that show number 2 Real Aggro value(which is kinda fishy to any1, y know) and it is literaly takes place after Basic aggro tutorial end too....
man... i hope this help clear experienced ppl's misunderstanding anyways.
Thanks for 900 sub :D
Update Changes on 50th:
There something wrong related to Multi Guardian. At first, i thought +aggro% only happen with Multi Guardian. Until some1 confirm me that, this +aggro% already applied with just ur guardian alone. I am not sure why they didnt add that on forum(that time mayam/theXiiithGuy contributor). Maybe all i can say i blame myself(forget to test guardian only) or asobimo for being secretly add secret self buff effect.
But no blame anyway... it is very Good update indeed 0.o
free +86-90% aggro woooooo, even multiplicatively with aggro% from eq
@@jojitorai7150 congratss joji san road to 1k subs next, wait guardian has +aggro% buff on self?
@@monmon-hy5ql yep, without multi.
You should pin this comment ..
A very underrated toram RUclipsr you made a very useful guides, i want to test this but im too lazy so ill just watch it here xD
Great video and great effort that you and your friends have done, thanks!
that guardian part makes my head feel dizzy
it's important but many global players don't even know.
I get struck by Venena's pillar everytime bc our dps doesn't have aggro reduc and just spam skills
Do you mean tank need to hit/fake shukuchi pillars/use party buffer to get pillars aggro? Especially pillars at last phase?
Wah! Thank you for making this video Joji, really a well made video!!
The actual aggro value confused me xD. I know it's just hundreds turned into thousands, but it still confusing because of how high the numbers are hahaha.
edit:
ps. Thanks a lot for compiling everything! You even made it in a way everyone could digest it easily. Your effort and passion is commendable. 😌✨ Thanks Joji!!
Thank you, I am a newbie tank I have 40k HP but my aggro is really bad 😭
Hi Joji, I have a question about aggro generated when we play with -100%aggro.
As far as I know, even I play with -100 aggro stat, I can still steal the aggro. (If I play with friend, then friend use qa for taunting boss and afk, the boss can target me even if my stat -100%aggro if I use certain skill). Certain skill that I have already checked = brave, war cry, decoy shot. Do you have any explanation about it? Do you know which skill type that doesnt affected by -aggro stat (maybe party buff aggro), or is just exceptional skill? (Like decoy, is it categorized as attack skill (?))
I already watching ur full video, but i havent found the answer or maybe i just missed it
GREAT vid. I hope there will be some cases in future when we will need that double guardian buff... Well, coryn candy staff + guardian = support for tank ?xD
Thanks a lot for explanations!
i had to remind you, that there updates changes in desc
Apparently, we dont need double guardian for that. That +aggro% already there with just guardian alone. :< but better than nothin tbh
i thought there no +aggro% in self buff, even judgin by amino or forum(where mayam & xiithguy were contributors that time). Oh well Asobimo secretly added yooo
I am gonna share this, I understand the concept but I still not understand at all., I may need to explore the truth at toram and failure tank me
Ty for the info joji-san, this mustve been alot of work for you guys.
20:21 this is very valuable information, could this mean that staff tank can use finale for aggro steal? :))
And also I would like to clarify about the multi-guardian test. Is it good for a party to have 2 guardian users? And is it recommended that tanks use guardian?
How are support skills aggro calculated(auras)?
Thankss
but usually tank just hold aggro, rarely steal aggro XD
It is rare to have 2 guardian, except kidnap revenir friend XD, thought they may don't know this mystery multi guardian anyway
Support Skills aggro calc already there in amino/PL
hmm, if that so each aura = (30 + 30 per ppl connected) per 3 sec 1mp = 10ap
@@jojitorai7150 ohhh XD well that is true, i c i c tyy senpai
@@monmon-hy5ql btw, changes on multi guardian. that +aggro% was from guardian alone(no multi)
i forgot to test guardian only(because i thought it is not there, but got tricked bruh)
Well... it is free +86-90% aggro from guardian alone secret self-buff :D
Im still confused about how aggro works...
Today i just tried avalanche +100% aggro buff, and spamming 500 mp skill (so it should be 5000 aggro x 200% = 10000 aggro per skill),,, spamming it like 4 times in under 10 seconds, so it means i just produced 40k aggro,.
But one of the dps could still steal the aggro from me, and get aimed by the boss (i tried cerberus ulti),,, its been 3 times, until finally i switched my tank to semi dps (i made tank-dps-support MD char)
....
And then i got my lv 10 provoke skill, and spammed it 3 times, but sometimes one of the dps could still steal the aggro...
I wonder if aggro has it's duration, like after 5 seconds, the aggro will decreased???
What do you think Joji?
It's an amazing work, really appreciate it.
And i have a question on some bosses including guild raid... Attacking/self buff/single target aggro at 1 enemy (either mob or boss) will start aggro on both, if non aggro holder uses non party buff skills at only 1 enemy either mob or boss, will it sparate the aggro or still applies on both mob and boss?
if i recall correctly, non aggro holder use non party buff still no aggro if you don't hit them before or party buff first... However, if you hit one(boss) of two enemies(boss & mob) only, then using non-party buff will result aggro on boss only.
if u mean separate aggro such as divided, there no such thing like that. It is just remain same on both ikr, example berserk 5mp on 2 enemies = still 5000 aggro on both 2 enemies.
How can I listen if no one is talking?
Finally i got answer miss/evaded can still get aggro
You forgot something aggro can decreased for sometime and that's annoying
What if we have -100% aggro?
Many people put finale smite as a combo closer, but it always aborted right? because mp is over limit, is it still gain aggro???
Cannot use due to no enough mp = still no aggro because you didnt do it so yeah
Why qi Charge with save mp doesn't give aggro instead of berserk save give 5000 aggro
Because qi charge is unique skill
Its mp cost based on current mp you have, meaning uses all mp.
Qi charge save auto 0mp cost 0mp save bank no aggro
To avoid abuse i suppose.... it is too op y know kekw.
Thanks for the info. I don't know if qi charge is unique skill. So, other skill with save combo will gain aggro right?
@@KeiNow other ofc will gain aggro normally. But keep that in mind, qi charge is skill that use all current mp, so yeah, there other skill like that(for now there, Arcane Strike from Assassin tree, Explosion from Konosuba event limited sg)
Oh i see, good info bro. For now, I have to be careful maintaining skill for my tank. Keep it up bro, really helpful content.
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