Another thing that’s annoying about no disc drive is… I want to watch my film collection! Everyone forgets that a lot of people have DVD, Blu-ray and 4K collections.
I‘ve got my Pro at launch and I love it. You have to see it in person. RUclips doesn‘t show it. The first party Sony titles all look really awesome. GoW Ragnarok and TLOU (I+II) are on another level.
I’m so happy you like it. I have a question though. I don’t have a PS5 yet and I was thinking about getting the Pro…..HOWEVER….my old TV doesn’t support 120 Hz or have variable refresh. Would that mean I pretty much won’t reap any of the benefits the Pro offers unless I buy a new TV?
@@-Stinky_Pinky Well, I really recommend a state of the art TV for PS5 (Pro). My 65“ LG C1 can handle the current gen consoles pretty well. I‘ll get a new TV for the PS6.
@@andreaswoehler26 Thank you. I think my options are clear then. Either buy a new TV and then get the Pro or if I don’t get a new TV then for sure save the money and just get the base PS5. Appreciate the feedback.
@@zachcline7555 I'm likely in the minority but I buy unlocked phones a few gens behind for ~$300-$400. Like I just got a galaxy s22. With as much as I use my phone to keep up w/ my insane schedule, it's worth that. But defo not worth anywhere near $1000 to me.
@@zachcline7555 If you're using your carrier as a way get a new phone rather than just buying it outright, than your paying over double in the price of a new phone, it just built into the insanely high monthly fees
@@brotherhoodofsteel3090 Exactly, & at this point I'm starting to get upset with companies keeping things exclusive. I mean I get it but like non of this DEF doesn't matter, might as well allow people to play the game the best way it can be played, being pc. They're likely to release it on pc eventually anyway. Spiderman 2 in January..why? Like lol - that's a quicker than usual turn around but still silly if you think about it.
@@brotherhoodofsteel3090Ps5 Pro have booth? 4K 60 FPS. Its only if you want MORE then its 30Fps again but with 4K RayTracing. Try to play 4K with Full RayTracing and Ultra Textures in Alan Wake 2 with over 60 FPS. Without to pay 2000 Dollars for a Graphic Card you will Not reach it. And RayTracing is Not Important for me. 4K 60Fps is now the standart for Ps5 Pro
Thank for giving a fair and balanced review. You're right it's not for everyone, it's not a PS6, but there is a noticeable difference - one that I am happy to buy. My PC costs way way more than the PS5 Pro and has a similar level of graphics (raster and ray tracing performance). Unlike Linus tech tips review who claimed there was not difference. They happily promote people upgrading their graphics cards for $500-700 dollars for a 30% increase in performance. Yet with their extreme bias, they claimed PS5 Pro barely had a difference - even though it's certainly way more than 30%.
If the ps5 pro is better than your pc? You have a potato😂😂😂😂 boy! My pc is 3 and half years old and blows the ps5 pro out the water. You still can't play all games at 60 with hi graphics. He just showed you the pro is still 30 and 40 in a lot of games. My 3 year old pc can play every game I own at 4k, 165 fps and beyond. Stop the cap😂 the pro is a waste of money though i wouldn't hate on anybody that wants one. I would still buy one because I like consoles, but no rush for me.
@erickpenaloza1 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 i guess you've played and seen my pc specs !?👍 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 i guess that you didn't get them memo that a console is always a few years behind pc. To add to that fact, pc has way more overhead than a console that pushes it past its threshold plus, u can upgrade it. A console is capped and customized to run lower than pc on every level. You should go to computer classes. If u think the ps5 pro is more powerful than even a 3 year old pc? U need to get of planet earth.
Thankfully they’re already discounted to £660 in most stores in the uk and the scalpers are having to sell them at a loss on eBay, so you can at least get them for ‘cheaper’.
After watching a few of these ps5 v ps5 pro comparisons, the only real difference I notice is the colours seem to pop a bit better on the pro. Most of the graphic details that are pointed out are always zoomed in on and I very much doubt would be noticeable when playing games ( especially if you’re into the game) and that’ll become less noticeable within hours of using . I’d personally wait for it to drop in price or have “ included disk drive deals” or just wait for the ps6
Most of those RUclipsrs are doing the comparison wrong. The selling point is that you're getting both the FPS and image quality at the same time. And also a lot of those reviews are from PC enthusiasm channels. You already know how that's gonna go...🤷♂️
@@MorbydManic The ps5 pro is still a 60fps console for the most part so that doesn't even matter. I'm personally 100% satisfied with 60fps. I'm definitely buying a pc instead of this pro though.
Well, I’ll stick with my PS5. You see, I have an OLED 120Hz Variable Refresh Rate TV with my setup, so I always play games at that 40fps as much as possible. The difference in graphics is just negligible. If you have a PS5 and are considering upgrading to the PS5 Pro, I suggest you first upgrade your TV. Going from an old TV to a OLED with 120Hz and VRR enabled will give you a much bigger visual jump than what the PS5 Pro will provide you with.
@RandCarlton I also have a a c2 and I can definitely see a difference in ps4 games. The resolution upscale is noticeable to me. I also tried ragnorok and horizon remastered and they do look excellent but not night and day.
I have a media room where I sit 8 feet from a 77” OLED and a 100” projection screen with a 4K JVC projector. A friend (who always must have the best and latest) brought over the PS5 Pro and from regular seating distance, other than extra confetti in Ratchet and Clank and shinier buildings in Spider Man 2, I could not see any obvious difference. As others have posted, I was playing Where’s Waldo? via pixel peeping from a foot away to spot any noticeable improvement. The problem is even after four years, the regular base PS5 has not been maxed out yet and the PS5 Pro is $700 solution in search of a problem.
nope. Alan Wake 2 looks significantly better than on the base model. Same with Veilguard. Performance mode on the pro makes performance mode on the base model look like ass.
People shitting on PS5 pro are the same people who bought the PS5 on day one with market prices. I know you regret paying that scalper, if you were just more patient, you could have gotten a PS5 pro at retail. But you would never buy a Pro, you were the same people who never bought the PS4 pro. You guys forget that there are a people who are patient and wait for more games on the new system and get the pro version. I never bought the PS4 and purchased the PS4 pro at retail when it came out. I did the same for the PS5 PRO, and I will do the same for the PS6 PRO, and I know I will see people shitting on PS6 PRO one day.
8:22 "Background details and textures are much sharper". Are we looking at the same image? The building in the background is much fuzzier on the Pro compared to the base PS5. I definitely have buyers remorse.
@@brightblackgrouse6236 Based on my testing, I see similar results depending on the game. Alan Wake 2 has similar results, as digital foundry pointed out. Ratchet and clank in my testing also has similar results. My understanding is that many of these developers are reducing the internal resolution and feeding this into PSSR to generate an AI upscaled image back to higher res. They are reducing the internal resolution to provide the additional headroom to crank up ray tracing effects while maintaining 60 fps. The OG Quality mode on ratchet and clank looks sharper to me than the Fidelity Pro mode on the Pro because the OG mode can reach native 4K. The Fidelity Pro mode uses PSSR to upscale a lower internal resolution to 4k. Nothing will match native 4K in sharpness and detail. So it becomes a tradeoff. In short, PS5 Pro reduces output resolution to gain additional graphical features and increased frame rate. You still don't get both, unlike what Sony's marketing touted at first. Maybe newer games in the pipeline designed with the Pro in mind will make less compromises in their Pro modes when they release.
@@brightblackgrouse6236 apparently RUclips or the original poster deleted my comment, so I will type it again but in less detail because it was a long post. Long story short, many games are fuzzier when using PSSR. You are taking a sub-4k image and using AI to upscale it. PSSR cannot match native 4K, at least not this version. When I compare ratchet and clank on my PS5 pro to my PS5, I see the same results in this video. The Fidelity mode on the OG PS5 is sharper than the Fidelity Pro mode on the Pro because the OG PS5 mode can reach native 4k. Other games like Alan Wake 2 have the same issue where PSSR is fuzzier. Look at the Digital Foundry coverage for that. PS5 Pro reduces internal resolution to leave enough headroom for bumping up graphic options like ray tracing and frame rate and then uses PSSR to get back to an inferior 4K. I probably will be returning my Pro. Today's games don't justify the purchase. Maybe when new games come out that are designed with the Pro in mind will I buy it again.
I got one and Rebirth is such a beautiful game on it! It's one of the games that sees the most of an Enhanced mode, and I hope to see more games in the future take more of the 60fps+increased resolution route going forward. It also feels much quieter than my base PS5 that I came from. Obviously not for everyone, but I'm extremely happy with it.
(In UK) PS5 slim disk bundled with 3 games + extra controller + COD black ops 6 comes in at just under £700 (£698) you could even swap out a few things for a TB extra
I'm confused why some RUclips reviewers are focused more on visual improvements instead of the most important improvement of all: playable framerates, judder elimination, and VRR. The resolution improvements are nice, but the performance improvements are even better. So many UE5 games are unplayable on the PS5 without significant visual downgrades. Remnant II's performance mode renders at 768p and upscales that to 1080p. Dragon's Dogma II and Metaphor are virtually unplayable despite dynamic resolution dropping down to very pixelated and jagged edges. Frame pacing is significantly improved on the Pro, as games are finally able to reach the minimum framerate for VRR.
Metaphor has no reason to run piss poor on base ps5 😂the game looks like a ps3 game and not exactly demanding, this is just devs being lazy because they already have their massive fan base and reputation to even need to make more effort
@hammygaming8278 We're going to see more and more games that are as badly optimized as this. We live in tough times right now with all the industry layoffs. Most studios are looking to cut corners, and using UE5 with Nanite meshes is easier than manually creating LOD models.
Agree, for consoles at least the framerates should be the main thing. I don't think it's possible to get high grapical performance with framerate on these devices. They're simply not powerful enough.
I just got the PS5 Pro and a new 4k 120hz tv. I had a pc but after years of upgrading , constantly updating divers etc i got a console and never looked back. I think newer game releases with make use of the extra power of the pro.
To those in comments. Dont lie to yourself to feel better. I own the PS5 Pro. Lots of games on the Pro console run and look better without a patch. This is a fact. The problem is the og PS5 exists and has a lower price. So it may not be worth it for the casual/budget gamer. I will say this for me at least, it adds a little bit of extra joy.
@@lordspalse0062 it's a similar question like why people buy 4090 or iPhone Pro Max. Price-value is diminishing returns. Price hike is bigger than value growth. But I still bought a PS5 Pro, cause base PS5 wasn't good enough for a 4K OLED. Objectively, I was expecting 500-600 euro price (600 with disc drive). 800 euro is 300 too much. It's as unreasonably overpriced as current GPUs. I'm not a buyer for current Nvidia GPUs, they are too overpriced (and deliberately memory cut, if not a xx90 model). That's why I went PS5. But I'm really waiting for 8800XT from AMD beginning next year.
For the No Man’s Sky update you should do a side by side when you are in a Space Station and talking to NPC’s Even when standing in front of the trade terminal after arriving via the teleport my backpack refiner looks sharper as do the NPCs when talking to station personnel or trading with NPC pilots. Sharper details and was less background artifacts
When you pay $700 for an "Pro", now, at this current moment, you'd at least expect that most games come with improvements, be it graphical or frame rate ... but from what i have seen so far, is that it is mostly random. Some games have improvements, some dont. Some improvements can be observed, some cant ... at least to the human eye. (And no, i am not gonna sit a feet away from my screen with a magnifying glass to look for minor differences) So, why am i laying $700 again? For like 4 or 5 games? Would make more sense to wait untill more games come out, like GTA 6, for example.
That is exactly what I'm going to do. Wait until the end of next year, probably with hundreds of games improved with a better and updated version of PSSR. No rush, wait for GTA 6 and plenty of other games. My backlog is booming.
Not something I would have expected you to mention, but the campaign in Jedi Survivor is broken on PS5 Pro. There are several sections where software bugs prevent you from progressing. I ran into one about 20ish hours into my play through. I started this game when it launched but put it down due to performance issues, thats what saved me from hitting progression bugs earlier in the campaign
but if a game currently runs on ps5 at 60fps, what improvements could there be with the ps5 pro? I, as an ignoramus, would say no improvement if the game in question has not received a specific patch for ps5 pro.
There aren't any UE5 games running natively at 60 FPS. At least not without significant visual downgrades. Remnant II renders at 768p instead of 1080p. Dragon's Dogma II doesn't even sustain 30. Metaphor is virtually unplayable. So games either finally become playable with a minimum framerate within the VRR limit, or they have significant visual improvements if given Pro patches. I can't think of any AA games that run at 60 FPS. They always come with a Performance mode since the PS5 isn't capable of Quality.
@@mmstick So all those who say there are no differences, or they are absolutely imperceptible, are lying? I mean if a person owns a standard ps5, is it worth switching to the "pro" model, or is it money thrown down the toilet?
@LucaCardini I own both and the upgrade was very noticeable on my 4K TV. Most people are seeing a huge improvement. Especially in framerates and frame pacing. Games with Pro patches are getting the significantly sharper visuals. I'm guessing the few people who don't see a difference don't actually play many games on PS5. Wulff Den, for example, admitted he only had a smaller 1080p TV connected to his Playstation, with only a few PS5 games. None of which were particularly demanding. There are many other reviewers who have done proper reviews with a lot of different games, including Digital Foundry. I happen to own most of the better UE5 and PSVR2 games released on PS5, and each of them now has either much improved visuals, or better framerates. Vertigo 2 on VR2 is finally playable without the constant frame stutter. Similar for Metaphor, Dragon's Dogma II, Ghostwire, and most UE5 games. UE5 games like Remnant and Lords of the Fallen are no longer a blurry mess, and games issuing PSSR look significantly better. If you play any VR or UE5 games, then the Pro is worth it. It should only continue to be worth it as more games release supporting PSSR. It's also worth it if you have any PS4 games that didn't get Pro patches. The GPU in the PS5 Pro is using AI upscaling on 1080p PS4 games. Games that required Performance to be playable are now playable on the Quality mode. Though some games set a 30 FPS cap and need Pro patches to replace the old Performance mode with an uncapped Quality mode.
The PS5 Pro should only be for users that do not own a PS5 yet. There is no point in upgrading from a PS5 to a PS5 Pro. You are better off waiting for the PS6 which should have way more upgrades.
@@tgreg9542yep yet these people commenting that it’s not worth . Tell that to my lazy ass that finally crawled out of the mancave playing games on my lg G4 . Nah there’s no difference 😂
I’m getting one soon but I don’t have a PS5 just yet. I’ve been holding on for enough games I’m interested to justify going into this generation (thus far, Switch and Steam Deck have been my great companions). Since I’m itching to play some stuff, I thought it make sense going the extra mile for the Pro version. But I don’t think I would be this inclined if I was just upgrading from the regular PS5.
Brand new gamers be like. I need to get ps5 pro & a 4K oled 60fps tv that’s spec for gaming & gta 6 and a year of online subscription. Total cost? Your daughter’s V card!
As a PC owner, nothing is more pitiful to me than PC dudes bashing the PS5 Pro, #1 we do not use disk drives in most PC these days to play games. #2 I hate how much they are trying to convince gamers that a $700 PC is a better gaming device than the Pro. #3 HOW ARE PC GAMERS complaining bout incremental improvements when they have to do that very thing every 2 to 3 years to get the most from their RIG! #4 "The PC does more than the PS5 Pro" I think if PC gamers have not realised, the Pro is focused on gaming, and not a damn Adobe or MS word utility. Then they should stop gaming and begin learning to use common sense online.
He’s making a good point though. A games console is a games console and a pc is a pc. If you want a games console for your living room typically, go for it. If you want to spec out your pc for the best possible gaming experience go for it. No need to whine about how much better everything is on pc. 🤣
Imagine paying online service fee for playing online , what a pity. On the other hand A pc can be upgraded, customized, can be used for many other things like editing, programming, etc... And pc games are a lot cheaper and supports modding. And it can also support captain jack sparrow versions. So don't say 700$ for ps5 , adding online monthly fees and game fees will come more than 1000$.and viola, you can play now in capped 60 fps, LoL
@ well if you’re LOL I guess you’ve had the last laugh eh? I take it you bought yourself a pro and aren’t impressed because it doesn’t match your use case or something?
@alfredoalejandro87 Oh, great keyboard fortune teller here to tell me my 4060, with two DDR5 and a ROG Maximus Hero Z790 set up is for poor people. Just some advice, do not assume because you have money, it means you know more than the next person. I'm am a website and software developer with years of building fiber optic networks. Money is not a problem for me, nor did I say anything about not being able to pay for the 2 to 3 years incremental upgrades.
Definitely planning to get one. Once the price drops closer to its actual price here in Iran. It was sold for about 1100 $ at launch if you exchange it and is dropping slightly every week.
And I will wait for the PS6 PRO. People shitting on PS5 pro are the same people who bought the PS5 on day one with market prices. I know you regret paying that scalper, if you were just more patient, you could have gotten a PS5 pro at retail. But you would never buy a Pro, you were the same people who never bought the PS4 pro. You guys forget that there are a people who are patient and wait for more games on the new system and get the pro version. I never bought the PS4 and purchased the PS4 pro at retail when it came out. I did the same for the PS5 PRO, and I will do the same for the PS6 PRO, and I know I will see people shitting on PS6 PRO one day.
Yes I did buy the PS5 Pro and I am very happy with my purchase. I finally finished Ratchet and Clank on it. NMS using the PS VR2 on the Pro definitely looks and performs better.
Great review!💯 You did an excellent job highlighting the differences and improvements, especially for those thinking about upgrading. Your comparison is super helpful - can’t wait to see how it performs in the long run!
Looking at these prices glad i sold my PS5 and got a PC for my tv , with 95% of the games on PC consoles are losing their selling points. My PC will likely still be competitive with a PS6.
And even if it isn't, you can then just upgrade some of the components. PS6 willl probably be like £600 for a disc "free" version, £100 for a disc drive, £60 for annual online, £40 for a stand etc.
Step one, announce a mid-gen refresh With barely any hardware flex Claim 8K is where you'll go But there’s no games to let it show The price tag makes us scratch our heads More than rent for where we lay our heads No improvements we can see But you swear it’s revolutionary Sony, you went wrong with your PS5 Pro I'll just keep my old console Hope this song has helped you understand Now you know How you killed your brand Step two, you focus on the hype Ignore the fact it plays alike The same controller, same old speed The upgrades fail to meet our needs Ray tracing? Oh, that's still there? But it’s not enough to make us care You call it “Pro” but there’s no gains Just marketing that’s built on claims Sony, you went wrong with your PS5 Pro I'll save my cash and let it go Hope this song has helped you understand Now you know How you killed your brand "We’ve learned from our mistakes before!" (You say, but we’re not so sure) “Fans love what we’ve got in store!” (But the Pro feels like a chore) Sony, how’d you think we’d buy A console upgrade that’s this dry? Even fans who stayed so true Are starting to look at Xbox too Sony, you went wrong with your PS5 Pro I'll stick with games from years ago Hope this song has helped you understand Now you know How you killed your brand Sony, you went wrong with your PS5 Pro We’re not sure where else you can go Hope this song has helped you understand Now you know How you killed your brand
Nice review Tom! Did you test Call of Duty on the Pro? Any differences there compared to the ps5? I have LG C2 and have switched on 120htz and seem to be playing it at that frame rate and its incredible!
@@BestShootermanUbz I'm highly doubtful about that accusation, but it wouldn't matter either way. My 75" mini-LED has more accurate colors with higher HDR brightness than my previous 55" LG C1 OLED. I'd pick the Mini-LED over OLED any day. Especially for gaming, given that OLED TVs suffer from flicker when using VRR, and struggle with brightness during the day. Brighter HDR colors is always going to be better than having the best contrast. Mini-LED contrast is good enough that the difference isn't that noticeable with the vast majority of content.
Why is the Pro still giving all these graphics mode options? Garth Algar in the tech presentation of the Pro said the Pro would give the best graphics and best framerate without the user having to choose what to sacrifice.
@Leffi3 You've got a PC and also bought the Pro? PS games also come to PC. So you've paid at least £700 to play a couple of PS exclusives? Yes, you're a mug.
You know what would be great? If there was a standard and devs could go higher if they want. No performance options. For example, every game must be a stable 60 fps. Can you do ray tracing on top of that? Good. You can't? That's ok.
For anyone with money to spare, who doesn't own a ps5 already and doesn't care about physical media, fill your boots. But for anyone who already owns a ps5 and/or does care about physical media it makes no sense at all. Don't be fooled everyone, SLIGHTLY better graphics on what is an already more than capable machine just isn't worth an upgrade, especially with the price,no physical media and no stand etc.
It's not true that there's no difference/slight differences. Demon Souls is running at 60fps in its pro mode and has better visuals than the fidelity mode that can only run 30fps on the base ps5. The focus on graphical comparisons on YT has overshadowed the boost the ps5 pro brings to the table especially with a VRR display.
All the poor boys be crying. But seriously. I think there's value in the pro. We can't have advancement without cost. Most people are too dumb to realize the price now helps pay for that future advancement. If games run smoother and look better there should be a higher cost. If not the industry is going no where.
I have the PS5 Pro. I was playing Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, but stopped to experience the rest of it on the PS5 Pro. I started playing Final Fantasy VII Rebirth on the PS5 Pro last night.
Sorry, I bought it for both of your aforementioned purpose :)). To improve/maintain the fps and to brag against my friends :)) Some games will look even better.
Nothing to do with bragging rights its more about frame rates to me i got the OG and i can definitely see a difference in the games space marines 2 is much clearer and smoother only issue is the fan noise compared to my OG which was silent.
Nothing to do with bragging rights its more about frame rates to me i got the OG and i can definitely see a difference in the games space marines 2 is much clearer and smoother only issue is the fan noise compared to my OG which was silent.
Look up the ps5 pro cpu it’s basically an overclocked 3700X which is so bad that it’s beaten by the cheaper 5600 non X and to make things even worse the 3700X at $145 is more expensive than the 5700X3D a cpu that is cheaper on aliexpress sometimes hitting less than $140 and is DOUBLE the performance yes u can look it up yourself so AM4 platform is pretty cheap to make today u need only about $300 more the pro to mop the floor with it if u want the specs i can list the entire build 5700X3D/7900GRE
If there was a buy back like turning in a iPhone 5 for iPhone 6 maybe, but I doubt most won't miss the visual we'll never see. My og has a stand & drive packed in. I'm ok.
Na premierę kupiłem ps4 pro i miałem dwie gry na płycie. Kupiłem Horizon Zero Dawn i pożyczyłem Batmana. Wszystkie inne gry ograłem kupując na promocjach rok albo dwa po premierze. Narzekałem na głośność pracy tamtej konsoli. Dlatego nie żałuję braku dysku, jeżeli konsola będzie miała dzięki temu dobre chłodzenie.
not that I’m getting one, but I’m glad they still have these options, as in most games, 60fps gets me a little dizzy, so I’ll pick a good 30fps any day!
To understand the Pro Enhance.. The Quality Setting on Base Ps5 is the Performance Mode of the PS5 Pro, Making the Quality Setting more details than the Quality on base Ps5.
Great review. It isn't for everyone but for those that want the extra performance then it’s a great upgrade. I think most complaining about the price have not seen how much new graphics cards for PC cost.
Last of Us, Dead Island 2, and Crew Motorfest looks really good on the Pro + oled tv (not YT), best stuff ive ever seen, makes me wana finish the enhanced games
I thought the promise of the pro was to be able to lock 60fps in. Not take a sub par 52fps framerate mode, boost the resolution and still have it be 52fps….
As an old fps gamer from the old days , it looks good in a lot of ways , but ….. having no disk drive , and having to pay extra for the base seems like a big fail to me , if it was a cheap device that would be different, but it is not. And looking at the running frame rates of some games that are very low , that would be unacceptable in my book given this is supposed to be a dedicated gaming machine. I think I’d rather buy a pc with the bells and whistles that matter even if it’s a few bucks more.
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Hi Chaps! Will you be buying a PS5 Pro??? (and if so.. for what game)
Waiting my PS5 Pro 30th anniversary edition next week.
If it's able to hit 60fps with GTA VI, then absolutely yes.
Not a chance why .
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No.
Maybe I need a RUclips Pro to really see a difference
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@@0zilbr No. You need RUclips Pro X Pro. RUclips have bad quality
@@tittentei7331 ya coz I need a X Pro to view in full screen and X Pro 2 to change resolution
Another thing that’s annoying about no disc drive is… I want to watch my film collection! Everyone forgets that a lot of people have DVD, Blu-ray and 4K collections.
That happens because most of consumers are on streaming, today we have a lot of streamings like Netflix, HBO Max, Disney..
@@flaviofilho9241 means nothing to a collector.
Are we gonna ignore the fact that it has a disc drive add on?
@@RonaldMcVale are we gonna ignore the fact it should come with it for that price?
@@FizzWizard They could have at least released a 1TB version with disc drive for the same price.
I‘ve got my Pro at launch and I love it. You have to see it in person. RUclips doesn‘t show it.
The first party Sony titles all look really awesome. GoW Ragnarok and TLOU (I+II) are on another level.
Black Myth Wukong looks amazing as well. Got me replaying all my games.
I’m so happy you like it. I have a question though. I don’t have a PS5 yet and I was thinking about getting the Pro…..HOWEVER….my old TV doesn’t support 120 Hz or have variable refresh. Would that mean I pretty much won’t reap any of the benefits the Pro offers unless I buy a new TV?
@@-Stinky_Pinky Well, I really recommend a state of the art TV for PS5 (Pro). My 65“ LG C1 can handle the current gen consoles pretty well. I‘ll get a new TV for the PS6.
@@andreaswoehler26 Thank you. I think my options are clear then. Either buy a new TV and then get the Pro or if I don’t get a new TV then for sure save the money and just get the base PS5. Appreciate the feedback.
Ignore him, I got one and it’s the same shit. Wouldn’t get one if I wasn’t given a bunch of Amazon gift cards.
getting a pro to replace a 4yr old machine is ok … every year many are paying more than a thousand to upgrade their iPhone pro max
Not really .Most people go through their carriers
@@zachcline7555 and you can pay monthly for a Pro in most of the western world.
That’s the problem. No money left for anything else. 🤣
@@zachcline7555 I'm likely in the minority but I buy unlocked phones a few gens behind for ~$300-$400. Like I just got a galaxy s22. With as much as I use my phone to keep up w/ my insane schedule, it's worth that. But defo not worth anywhere near $1000 to me.
@@zachcline7555 If you're using your carrier as a way get a new phone rather than just buying it outright, than your paying over double in the price of a new phone, it just built into the insanely high monthly fees
I just want the best of both worlds. Games that run in 60fps close to the Fidelity mode.
Then buy a PC.
@Sheen334 I have one and it's pretty decent and I would say better than the PS5 Pro.
@@Sheen334 Lmao literally. Main reason I switched to PC was the dumb 'fidelity mode or performance mode.'
Now I get both.
@@brotherhoodofsteel3090 Exactly, & at this point I'm starting to get upset with companies keeping things exclusive. I mean I get it but like non of this DEF doesn't matter, might as well allow people to play the game the best way it can be played, being pc. They're likely to release it on pc eventually anyway. Spiderman 2 in January..why? Like lol - that's a quicker than usual turn around but still silly if you think about it.
@@brotherhoodofsteel3090Ps5 Pro have booth? 4K 60 FPS.
Its only if you want MORE then its 30Fps again but with 4K RayTracing.
Try to play 4K with Full RayTracing and Ultra Textures in Alan Wake 2 with over 60 FPS. Without to pay 2000 Dollars for a Graphic Card you will Not reach it.
And RayTracing is Not Important for me.
4K 60Fps is now the standart for Ps5 Pro
Thank for giving a fair and balanced review. You're right it's not for everyone, it's not a PS6, but there is a noticeable difference - one that I am happy to buy. My PC costs way way more than the PS5 Pro and has a similar level of graphics (raster and ray tracing performance).
Unlike Linus tech tips review who claimed there was not difference. They happily promote people upgrading their graphics cards for $500-700 dollars for a 30% increase in performance. Yet with their extreme bias, they claimed PS5 Pro barely had a difference - even though it's certainly way more than 30%.
If the ps5 pro is better than your pc? You have a potato😂😂😂😂 boy! My pc is 3 and half years old and blows the ps5 pro out the water. You still can't play all games at 60 with hi graphics. He just showed you the pro is still 30 and 40 in a lot of games. My 3 year old pc can play every game I own at 4k, 165 fps and beyond. Stop the cap😂 the pro is a waste of money though i wouldn't hate on anybody that wants one. I would still buy one because I like consoles, but no rush for me.
@@redcrimson1028whats up with all the emojis?
@Daniel06_ Google what emoji mean
@@redcrimson1028you’ re a liar you’re 3 year old pc is isn’t playing 4k at 160hz, stop the cap
@erickpenaloza1 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 i guess you've played and seen my pc specs !?👍 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 i guess that you didn't get them memo that a console is always a few years behind pc. To add to that fact, pc has way more overhead than a console that pushes it past its threshold plus, u can upgrade it. A console is capped and customized to run lower than pc on every level. You should go to computer classes. If u think the ps5 pro is more powerful than even a 3 year old pc? U need to get of planet earth.
Thankfully they’re already discounted to £660 in most stores in the uk and the scalpers are having to sell them at a loss on eBay, so you can at least get them for ‘cheaper’.
That's gold
After watching a few of these ps5 v ps5 pro comparisons, the only real difference I notice is the colours seem to pop a bit better on the pro. Most of the graphic details that are pointed out are always zoomed in on and I very much doubt would be noticeable when playing games ( especially if you’re into the game) and that’ll become less noticeable within hours of using . I’d personally wait for it to drop in price or have “ included disk drive deals” or just wait for the ps6
The colors are no different. The bandwidth has not changed from the regular to the pro. The color will entirely depend on your tv and its settings.
Most of those RUclipsrs are doing the comparison wrong. The selling point is that you're getting both the FPS and image quality at the same time.
And also a lot of those reviews are from PC enthusiasm channels. You already know how that's gonna go...🤷♂️
For that price I'll stick to the normal PS5 thanks 😂
Good choice. Most gamers will be fine with the standard version.
Also it's important to have a TV that will have the ability to take advantage of the PS5
Most people can't even afford a 4k TV that supports 120hz so it makes sense
Personally im switching to the pc. This pro is straight up ridiculous.
@@MorbydManic The ps5 pro is still a 60fps console for the most part so that doesn't even matter. I'm personally 100% satisfied with 60fps. I'm definitely buying a pc instead of this pro though.
Well, I’ll stick with my PS5. You see, I have an OLED 120Hz Variable Refresh Rate TV with my setup, so I always play games at that 40fps as much as possible. The difference in graphics is just negligible.
If you have a PS5 and are considering upgrading to the PS5 Pro, I suggest you first upgrade your TV. Going from an old TV to a OLED with 120Hz and VRR enabled will give you a much bigger visual jump than what the PS5 Pro will provide you with.
What if you have an lg c2 and looking to get a console. What do you suggest?
@@beans4brekfest i have an LG C1 and C2 OLED. had the ps5. now have the ps5 pro. i can barely tell the difference between the two systems.
I just jumped to QLED and see a significant jump. Was skeptical but it's nice.
@RandCarlton I also have a a c2 and I can definitely see a difference in ps4 games. The resolution upscale is noticeable to me. I also tried ragnorok and horizon remastered and they do look excellent but not night and day.
@@RandCarltonyou maybe need a new eye for Ray Tracing. That's the visual difference you'll see. Stronger Ray Tracing on pro.
I have a media room where I sit 8 feet from a 77” OLED and a 100” projection screen with a 4K JVC projector. A friend (who always must have the best and latest) brought over the PS5 Pro and from regular seating distance, other than extra confetti in Ratchet and Clank and shinier buildings in Spider Man 2, I could not see any obvious difference. As others have posted, I was playing Where’s Waldo? via pixel peeping from a foot away to spot any noticeable improvement.
The problem is even after four years, the regular base PS5 has not been maxed out yet and the PS5 Pro is $700 solution in search of a problem.
Stellar Blade is the top dog right now for the PS5 Pro, absolutely phenomenal on Pro and Pro Max modes. Add an OLED and you're golden.
Gooner
@ no shame
Ps5 pro graphics got us gamers playing where's wally
realistically its just because youtube kills video quality, im sure its very easy to spot in person
What's the difference between Demon Souls Pro Mode and Ps5s Fidelity mode? (30fps)
nope. Alan Wake 2 looks significantly better than on the base model. Same with Veilguard. Performance mode on the pro makes performance mode on the base model look like ass.
To find him real quick you need to turn off your console and TV and walk over to infront of your screen and shine a torch on it. Voila! There he is.
@@mrbobajango7482PS5 Pro mode is 4K PSSR at 60fps while base PS5 is native 4K 30fps
If I already had a PS5, I wouldn’t touch the Pro. But as a PS4 user, I’m seriously considering it
You can get a really good pc for a grand, it’s a tough sell
I went up from OG PS4 to PS5 Pro and I’m loving it… I also got a large OLED 4K tv, so def think the new TV is doing some heavy lifting
People shitting on PS5 pro are the same people who bought the PS5 on day one with market prices. I know you regret paying that scalper, if you were just more patient, you could have gotten a PS5 pro at retail. But you would never buy a Pro, you were the same people who never bought the PS4 pro. You guys forget that there are a people who are patient and wait for more games on the new system and get the pro version. I never bought the PS4 and purchased the PS4 pro at retail when it came out. I did the same for the PS5 PRO, and I will do the same for the PS6 PRO, and I know I will see people shitting on PS6 PRO one day.
@@stevenesbitt3528 Not having to deal with Windows alone is worth a lot of money.
8:22 "Background details and textures are much sharper". Are we looking at the same image? The building in the background is much fuzzier on the Pro compared to the base PS5.
I definitely have buyers remorse.
Maybe he accidentally swapped the images?
@@brightblackgrouse6236It probably has something to do with PSSR
@@brightblackgrouse6236 Based on my testing, I see similar results depending on the game. Alan Wake 2 has similar results, as digital foundry pointed out. Ratchet and clank in my testing also has similar results.
My understanding is that many of these developers are reducing the internal resolution and feeding this into PSSR to generate an AI upscaled image back to higher res. They are reducing the internal resolution to provide the additional headroom to crank up ray tracing effects while maintaining 60 fps.
The OG Quality mode on ratchet and clank looks sharper to me than the Fidelity Pro mode on the Pro because the OG mode can reach native 4K. The Fidelity Pro mode uses PSSR to upscale a lower internal resolution to 4k. Nothing will match native 4K in sharpness and detail.
So it becomes a tradeoff. In short, PS5 Pro reduces output resolution to gain additional graphical features and increased frame rate. You still don't get both, unlike what Sony's marketing touted at first.
Maybe newer games in the pipeline designed with the Pro in mind will make less compromises in their Pro modes when they release.
We are watching this from RUclips which reduces the quality dramatically so ot would be very hard for any of us to make an accurate assertion
@@brightblackgrouse6236 apparently RUclips or the original poster deleted my comment, so I will type it again but in less detail because it was a long post. Long story short, many games are fuzzier when using PSSR. You are taking a sub-4k image and using AI to upscale it. PSSR cannot match native 4K, at least not this version.
When I compare ratchet and clank on my PS5 pro to my PS5, I see the same results in this video. The Fidelity mode on the OG PS5 is sharper than the Fidelity Pro mode on the Pro because the OG PS5 mode can reach native 4k.
Other games like Alan Wake 2 have the same issue where PSSR is fuzzier. Look at the Digital Foundry coverage for that.
PS5 Pro reduces internal resolution to leave enough headroom for bumping up graphic options like ray tracing and frame rate and then uses PSSR to get back to an inferior 4K.
I probably will be returning my Pro. Today's games don't justify the purchase. Maybe when new games come out that are designed with the Pro in mind will I buy it again.
I got one and Rebirth is such a beautiful game on it! It's one of the games that sees the most of an Enhanced mode, and I hope to see more games in the future take more of the 60fps+increased resolution route going forward. It also feels much quieter than my base PS5 that I came from. Obviously not for everyone, but I'm extremely happy with it.
(In UK) PS5 slim disk bundled with 3 games + extra controller + COD black ops 6 comes in at just under £700 (£698) you could even swap out a few things for a TB extra
I'm confused why some RUclips reviewers are focused more on visual improvements instead of the most important improvement of all: playable framerates, judder elimination, and VRR. The resolution improvements are nice, but the performance improvements are even better. So many UE5 games are unplayable on the PS5 without significant visual downgrades. Remnant II's performance mode renders at 768p and upscales that to 1080p. Dragon's Dogma II and Metaphor are virtually unplayable despite dynamic resolution dropping down to very pixelated and jagged edges. Frame pacing is significantly improved on the Pro, as games are finally able to reach the minimum framerate for VRR.
Metaphor has no reason to run piss poor on base ps5 😂the game looks like a ps3 game and not exactly demanding, this is just devs being lazy because they already have their massive fan base and reputation to even need to make more effort
@hammygaming8278 We're going to see more and more games that are as badly optimized as this. We live in tough times right now with all the industry layoffs. Most studios are looking to cut corners, and using UE5 with Nanite meshes is easier than manually creating LOD models.
Agree, for consoles at least the framerates should be the main thing. I don't think it's possible to get high grapical performance with framerate on these devices. They're simply not powerful enough.
Have yall even tried Dragons dogma 2 on ps5? You can get 120hz so what are yall on about ?
@@vAchilleus yeah and looks like complete ass 😂
I just got the PS5 Pro and a new 4k 120hz tv. I had a pc but after years of upgrading , constantly updating divers etc i got a console and never looked back. I think newer game releases with make use of the extra power of the pro.
To those in comments. Dont lie to yourself to feel better. I own the PS5 Pro. Lots of games on the Pro console run and look better without a patch. This is a fact. The problem is the og PS5 exists and has a lower price. So it may not be worth it for the casual/budget gamer. I will say this for me at least, it adds a little bit of extra joy.
Amen 🎉🎉
Is the extra joy worth 900 dollars (that's what I'll have to spend to get the disc drive and stand) I'm not even being sarcastic seriously.
Are you feeling better now?
Jailbroken PS5 has joined the Chat 😎. Nobody is saying that you cannot jailbreak PS5 Slim and Pro 😄
@@lordspalse0062 it's a similar question like why people buy 4090 or iPhone Pro Max.
Price-value is diminishing returns. Price hike is bigger than value growth.
But I still bought a PS5 Pro, cause base PS5 wasn't good enough for a 4K OLED.
Objectively, I was expecting 500-600 euro price (600 with disc drive). 800 euro is 300 too much. It's as unreasonably overpriced as current GPUs.
I'm not a buyer for current Nvidia GPUs, they are too overpriced (and deliberately memory cut, if not a xx90 model). That's why I went PS5. But I'm really waiting for 8800XT from AMD beginning next year.
For the No Man’s Sky update you should do a side by side when you are in a Space Station and talking to NPC’s
Even when standing in front of the trade terminal after arriving via the teleport my backpack refiner looks sharper as do the NPCs when talking to station personnel or trading with NPC pilots.
Sharper details and was less background artifacts
When you pay $700 for an "Pro", now, at this current moment, you'd at least expect that most games come with improvements, be it graphical or frame rate ... but from what i have seen so far, is that it is mostly random. Some games have improvements, some dont. Some improvements can be observed, some cant ... at least to the human eye. (And no, i am not gonna sit a feet away from my screen with a magnifying glass to look for minor differences) So, why am i laying $700 again? For like 4 or 5 games? Would make more sense to wait untill more games come out, like GTA 6, for example.
That is exactly what I'm going to do. Wait until the end of next year, probably with hundreds of games improved with a better and updated version of PSSR. No rush, wait for GTA 6 and plenty of other games. My backlog is booming.
It's because games need to update to harnness the ps5 pro power
120 mode is a night and day diference for me, also, Dragons Dogma is really playable now.
Not something I would have expected you to mention, but the campaign in Jedi Survivor is broken on PS5 Pro. There are several sections where software bugs prevent you from progressing. I ran into one about 20ish hours into my play through. I started this game when it launched but put it down due to performance issues, thats what saved me from hitting progression bugs earlier in the campaign
but if a game currently runs on ps5 at 60fps, what improvements could there be with the ps5 pro? I, as an ignoramus, would say no improvement if the game in question has not received a specific patch for ps5 pro.
There aren't any UE5 games running natively at 60 FPS. At least not without significant visual downgrades. Remnant II renders at 768p instead of 1080p. Dragon's Dogma II doesn't even sustain 30. Metaphor is virtually unplayable. So games either finally become playable with a minimum framerate within the VRR limit, or they have significant visual improvements if given Pro patches. I can't think of any AA games that run at 60 FPS. They always come with a Performance mode since the PS5 isn't capable of Quality.
@@mmstick So all those who say there are no differences, or they are absolutely imperceptible, are lying? I mean if a person owns a standard ps5, is it worth switching to the "pro" model, or is it money thrown down the toilet?
@LucaCardini I own both and the upgrade was very noticeable on my 4K TV. Most people are seeing a huge improvement. Especially in framerates and frame pacing. Games with Pro patches are getting the significantly sharper visuals.
I'm guessing the few people who don't see a difference don't actually play many games on PS5. Wulff Den, for example, admitted he only had a smaller 1080p TV connected to his Playstation, with only a few PS5 games. None of which were particularly demanding.
There are many other reviewers who have done proper reviews with a lot of different games, including Digital Foundry. I happen to own most of the better UE5 and PSVR2 games released on PS5, and each of them now has either much improved visuals, or better framerates. Vertigo 2 on VR2 is finally playable without the constant frame stutter. Similar for Metaphor, Dragon's Dogma II, Ghostwire, and most UE5 games. UE5 games like Remnant and Lords of the Fallen are no longer a blurry mess, and games issuing PSSR look significantly better.
If you play any VR or UE5 games, then the Pro is worth it. It should only continue to be worth it as more games release supporting PSSR. It's also worth it if you have any PS4 games that didn't get Pro patches. The GPU in the PS5 Pro is using AI upscaling on 1080p PS4 games.
Games that required Performance to be playable are now playable on the Quality mode. Though some games set a 30 FPS cap and need Pro patches to replace the old Performance mode with an uncapped Quality mode.
bigger resolution and effects , and fidelity 60 fps ( with pssr)
@@deadscene1 ok.
the different with FF7 rebirth is crazy. That alone made me have no regrets getting this.
I’m Happy with My Slim ❤
You need to do a video about the furniture you got in your room! They look dope. What is the big light beside the PS5?
The PS5 Pro should only be for users that do not own a PS5 yet. There is no point in upgrading from a PS5 to a PS5 Pro. You are better off waiting for the PS6 which should have way more upgrades.
🤦🏾♂️, I’ve had the PS5 since launch, the Pro is a better upgrade then the PS4 pro was last gen.
@@tgreg9542yep yet these people commenting that it’s not worth . Tell that to my lazy ass that finally crawled out of the mancave playing games on my lg G4 . Nah there’s no difference 😂
i agree
Ur broke we get it, we arent, we buy. Stop being depressed n tryna harm other ppl.
@@tgreg9542Same
I’m getting one soon but I don’t have a PS5 just yet. I’ve been holding on for enough games I’m interested to justify going into this generation (thus far, Switch and Steam Deck have been my great companions). Since I’m itching to play some stuff, I thought it make sense going the extra mile for the Pro version. But I don’t think I would be this inclined if I was just upgrading from the regular PS5.
What happed to the days of $300 consoles and $50 dollar games ??? Wtf. One game now is like $80 dollars
It's BS
Technology got more expensive and more demanding, games on the other hand
Brand new gamers be like. I need to get ps5 pro & a 4K oled 60fps tv that’s spec for gaming & gta 6 and a year of online subscription. Total cost? Your daughter’s V card!
@@Ramen4mwah 😂 it’s ridiculous to charge $700 for a PlayStation
@@BoxingFan4Life fr. Even worse here in Canada it’s 950$
Next week my GameStop has a double trade in bonus. Normal trade for my slim is $250. Would it be worth paying the difference?
$500 off a Pro with a trade-in? Yes, that would be worth it!
What GameStop is that? I need to come to that one!
@ that comment was a month ago. It was right before Christmas
As a PC owner, nothing is more pitiful to me than PC dudes bashing the PS5 Pro,
#1 we do not use disk drives in most PC these days to play games.
#2 I hate how much they are trying to convince gamers that a $700 PC is a better gaming device than the Pro.
#3 HOW ARE PC GAMERS complaining bout incremental improvements when they have to do that very thing every 2 to 3 years to get the most from their RIG!
#4 "The PC does more than the PS5 Pro" I think if PC gamers have not realised, the Pro is focused on gaming, and not a damn Adobe or MS word utility. Then they should stop gaming and begin learning to use common sense online.
Yeah PC owner, more like a cheap ass laptop.
Tell me you don't have a high end PC without telling me you don't have one.
Obvious.
He’s making a good point though. A games console is a games console and a pc is a pc. If you want a games console for your living room typically, go for it. If you want to spec out your pc for the best possible gaming experience go for it. No need to whine about how much better everything is on pc. 🤣
Imagine paying online service fee for playing online , what a pity.
On the other hand
A pc can be upgraded, customized, can be used for many other things like editing, programming, etc...
And pc games are a lot cheaper and supports modding.
And it can also support captain jack sparrow versions.
So don't say 700$ for ps5 , adding online monthly fees and game fees will come more than 1000$.and viola, you can play now in capped 60 fps, LoL
@ well if you’re LOL I guess you’ve had the last laugh eh? I take it you bought yourself a pro and aren’t impressed because it doesn’t match your use case or something?
@alfredoalejandro87 Oh, great keyboard fortune teller here to tell me my 4060, with two DDR5 and a ROG Maximus Hero Z790 set up is for poor people. Just some advice, do not assume because you have money, it means you know more than the next person.
I'm am a website and software developer with years of building fiber optic networks. Money is not a problem for me, nor did I say anything about not being able to pay for the 2 to 3 years incremental upgrades.
Definitely planning to get one. Once the price drops closer to its actual price here in Iran. It was sold for about 1100 $ at launch if you exchange it and is dropping slightly every week.
The PS5 pro is a fantastic advert for the PS6. I’ll wait.
And I will wait for the PS6 PRO. People shitting on PS5 pro are the same people who bought the PS5 on day one with market prices. I know you regret paying that scalper, if you were just more patient, you could have gotten a PS5 pro at retail. But you would never buy a Pro, you were the same people who never bought the PS4 pro. You guys forget that there are a people who are patient and wait for more games on the new system and get the pro version. I never bought the PS4 and purchased the PS4 pro at retail when it came out. I did the same for the PS5 PRO, and I will do the same for the PS6 PRO, and I know I will see people shitting on PS6 PRO one day.
@@MrLorenzoVidsyes is more of an upgrade if done that way. I’m doing the same
Yes I did buy the PS5 Pro and I am very happy with my purchase. I finally finished Ratchet and Clank on it. NMS using the PS VR2 on the Pro definitely looks and performs better.
Unfortunately, I won't be able to pick it up. I don't have the money, so I'll wait for the PS6.🙌
Trade it in & pay lesser
Get a job
Great review!💯 You did an excellent job highlighting the differences and improvements, especially for those thinking about upgrading. Your comparison is super helpful - can’t wait to see how it performs in the long run!
Although people may not understand the point of the PS5 Pro now, they’ll learn their lesson once GTA VI comes out.
How is the sound of the fan during gaming?
Ah. Included in the vid 😊
Have yet to hear it but I've had it fir less than 24hrs
Looking at these prices glad i sold my PS5 and got a PC for my tv , with 95% of the games on PC consoles are losing their selling points. My PC will likely still be competitive with a PS6.
And even if it isn't, you can then just upgrade some of the components.
PS6 willl probably be like £600 for a disc "free" version, £100 for a disc drive, £60 for annual online, £40 for a stand etc.
Well the exclusives come in 2025
Great video 👏 keep up the good work 👏
The PS5 Pro still can't play PS3 games 🤣
Playing Spider Man 2 again, looks and runs amazing on my LG OLED
Sony making all those concord money back 😂😂
Please Tech chap. What tv is this?
Step one, announce a mid-gen refresh
With barely any hardware flex
Claim 8K is where you'll go
But there’s no games to let it show
The price tag makes us scratch our heads
More than rent for where we lay our heads
No improvements we can see
But you swear it’s revolutionary
Sony, you went wrong with your PS5 Pro
I'll just keep my old console
Hope this song has helped you understand
Now you know
How you killed your brand
Step two, you focus on the hype
Ignore the fact it plays alike
The same controller, same old speed
The upgrades fail to meet our needs
Ray tracing? Oh, that's still there?
But it’s not enough to make us care
You call it “Pro” but there’s no gains
Just marketing that’s built on claims
Sony, you went wrong with your PS5 Pro
I'll save my cash and let it go
Hope this song has helped you understand
Now you know
How you killed your brand
"We’ve learned from our mistakes before!"
(You say, but we’re not so sure)
“Fans love what we’ve got in store!”
(But the Pro feels like a chore)
Sony, how’d you think we’d buy
A console upgrade that’s this dry?
Even fans who stayed so true
Are starting to look at Xbox too
Sony, you went wrong with your PS5 Pro
I'll stick with games from years ago
Hope this song has helped you understand
Now you know
How you killed your brand
Sony, you went wrong with your PS5 Pro
We’re not sure where else you can go
Hope this song has helped you understand
Now you know
How you killed your brand
Where's your crowd? 😂
Nice review Tom! Did you test Call of Duty on the Pro? Any differences there compared to the ps5? I have LG C2 and have switched on 120htz and seem to be playing it at that frame rate and its incredible!
For that price, I expect night and day differences.
ITS NOT ONLY THE PS5 PRO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD TV AS WELL LIKE AN OLED
OLED isn't necessary. Anyone with a 4K TV will see improvements in Pro-enhanced graphics modes. I'd personally pick Mini-LED over OLED any day.
@@mmstick you’re in the minority 😆
@@BestShootermanUbz I'm highly doubtful about that accusation, but it wouldn't matter either way. My 75" mini-LED has more accurate colors with higher HDR brightness than my previous 55" LG C1 OLED. I'd pick the Mini-LED over OLED any day. Especially for gaming, given that OLED TVs suffer from flicker when using VRR, and struggle with brightness during the day. Brighter HDR colors is always going to be better than having the best contrast. Mini-LED contrast is good enough that the difference isn't that noticeable with the vast majority of content.
@@mmstick what’s kind of TV you have?
@@mmsticka 4k oled tv upgrade is a lot better than the upgrade from base ps5 to ps5 pro. U will actually see a huge difference in visuals.
Should've done this as a Base vs Slim vs Pro comparison considering slim exists now too.
UHD Disc Drive in UK is £99 not £80
Yes, he got the 80 and 100 back to front there.
Which camera do you use?
A7 iv
Not a massive step up really. I’ll stick with my PS5 and wait for the PS6.
Why is the Pro still giving all these graphics mode options? Garth Algar in the tech presentation of the Pro said the Pro would give the best graphics and best framerate without the user having to choose what to sacrifice.
Although they are some quality differences
Its not worth $700 and pay extra for disk drive and stand
Yep - this
I’m going to wait till it’s in the thrift store behind the collectibles glass for $35😂
Might be waiting a while!
The PS5 Pro is the most pointless console release ever. Overpriced and underpowered. If you buy one, you're a mug.
I’m getting it because I don’t have a ps5
@@Sheen334 guess I’m a mug then 😂
I got a ps5 pro and a gaming pc so win win
Xbox games on pc and ps exclusives on pro 👍🏻
@Leffi3 You've got a PC and also bought the Pro? PS games also come to PC. So you've paid at least £700 to play a couple of PS exclusives? Yes, you're a mug.
It is the 2 TB is what makes the price scale so high. Should have not put in that 2 GB.
What a waste of time. I'm sticking with my original 2022 PS5!
I’m getting the pro
@@fortnitehub5232 That's co- Uh i mean bad fortnite hub very bad. 😐
If you don’t buy it or watch content on it it’s not a waste of anything.
I feel like you’re a little late to the party bringing this out but the production quality on it is really high and presented well, bravo 👏
rather build a pc than too upgrade from base ps5 to the pro .
You know what would be great? If there was a standard and devs could go higher if they want. No performance options.
For example, every game must be a stable 60 fps. Can you do ray tracing on top of that? Good. You can't? That's ok.
For anyone with money to spare, who doesn't own a ps5 already and doesn't care about physical media, fill your boots. But for anyone who already owns a ps5 and/or does care about physical media it makes no sense at all. Don't be fooled everyone, SLIGHTLY better graphics on what is an already more than capable machine just isn't worth an upgrade, especially with the price,no physical media and no stand etc.
It is worth it for psvr2 though
It's not true that there's no difference/slight differences. Demon Souls is running at 60fps in its pro mode and has better visuals than the fidelity mode that can only run 30fps on the base ps5. The focus on graphical comparisons on YT has overshadowed the boost the ps5 pro brings to the table especially with a VRR display.
My issue as I get older is playing 30fps is making me sick after 30 min for fast paced games. If I wanna play I’m gonna have to get the pro to help
These comments smell broke and bitter.
Bought the pro console mainly for FF7 Rebirth cuz it was unplayable on the base ps5 now it looks and runs great
Definitely NOT 👎 worth it, The upgrade from base PS5 to Pro is the equivalent of going from a 2060 super to a 2070 super
I currently have a base PS4 - should I upgrade to PS5 Pro?
All the poor boys be crying. But seriously. I think there's value in the pro. We can't have advancement without cost. Most people are too dumb to realize the price now helps pay for that future advancement.
If games run smoother and look better there should be a higher cost. If not the industry is going no where.
You’re a complete fool 😂😂😂😂
I have the PS5 Pro. I was playing Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, but stopped to experience the rest of it on the PS5 Pro. I started playing Final Fantasy VII Rebirth on the PS5 Pro last night.
$200 more for improved performance mode is nuts!
What about the 2tb dumbass ? Didn’t know 2tb were free
Sounds like you never bought a new graphics card 😂
@Leffi3 Well, I came from a 3090 to a 4090 🤌
@@jeanremydorval3785 i got a ps5 a pro and a 4090 pc
It's a lot more than £200 more.
I dont think Sony is marketing this as something PS5 users should upgrade to, def for people who are on the PS4 Pro waiting for the PS5 Pro
People aren't buying it for the differences. They're buying it for the bragging rights amongst their mates.
I think to play certain games at 60fps (up from 30) is quite significant.
Sorry, I bought it for both of your aforementioned purpose :)). To improve/maintain the fps and to brag against my friends :)) Some games will look even better.
I also bought so I could be shamed by the internet citizens.
Nothing to do with bragging rights its more about frame rates to me i got the OG and i can definitely see a difference in the games space marines 2 is much clearer and smoother only issue is the fan noise compared to my OG which was silent.
Nothing to do with bragging rights its more about frame rates to me i got the OG and i can definitely see a difference in the games space marines 2 is much clearer and smoother only issue is the fan noise compared to my OG which was silent.
If I plan to play mainly in a ps portal, not a tv, is it worth it to get the pro or not?
I wouldnt think so no
Overpriced. That's a very hard pass for me. £700 what were they thinking. Might as well get a PC
Look up the ps5 pro cpu it’s basically an overclocked 3700X which is so bad that it’s beaten by the cheaper 5600 non X and to make things even worse the 3700X at $145 is more expensive than the 5700X3D a cpu that is cheaper on aliexpress sometimes hitting less than $140 and is DOUBLE the performance yes u can look it up yourself so AM4 platform is pretty cheap to make today u need only about $300 more the pro to mop the floor with it if u want the specs i can list the entire build 5700X3D/7900GRE
If there was a buy back like turning in a iPhone 5 for iPhone 6 maybe, but I doubt most won't miss the visual we'll never see. My og has a stand & drive packed in. I'm ok.
Ps fanboys have no right to complain about pc prices when they paid 600 for the ps5 and 700 for the ps5 pro.
Great review!
Waste of money.
I glad that you finally afford one by RUclips money
bruhhh. its not worth it at all
Don't forget Returnal. They didn't do anything for Returnal. Wish i knew if Returnal got a small enhancement for playing on the playstation pro.
Na premierę kupiłem ps4 pro i miałem dwie gry na płycie. Kupiłem Horizon Zero Dawn i pożyczyłem Batmana. Wszystkie inne gry ograłem kupując na promocjach rok albo dwa po premierze. Narzekałem na głośność pracy tamtej konsoli. Dlatego nie żałuję braku dysku, jeżeli konsola będzie miała dzięki temu dobre chłodzenie.
not that I’m getting one, but I’m glad they still have these options, as in most games, 60fps gets me a little dizzy, so I’ll pick a good 30fps any day!
To answer your question the first game that I would play on that is Sniper Elite 5
I think you mislabeled the clip at 7:26
To understand the Pro Enhance.. The Quality Setting on Base Ps5 is the Performance Mode of the PS5 Pro, Making the Quality Setting more details than the Quality on base Ps5.
Yes that's roughly the case (though it does vary a bit between games)
Does it make the vr headset work better?
I bought one and it’s more crisp, like it patched all the games. Spiderman was so smooth on the swing I felt nauseous.
Great video, thanks!
Great review. It isn't for everyone but for those that want the extra performance then it’s a great upgrade. I think most complaining about the price have not seen how much new graphics cards for PC cost.
can i connect my old one to a new one for expanded storage ?
Last of Us, Dead Island 2, and Crew Motorfest looks really good on the Pro + oled tv (not YT), best stuff ive ever seen, makes me wana finish the enhanced games
I have an LG C2 tv, would the pro version get the most out of the tv specs?
it would yeah, you get more 120fps games and higher fps in general
I thought the promise of the pro was to be able to lock 60fps in. Not take a sub par 52fps framerate mode, boost the resolution and still have it be 52fps….
As an old fps gamer from the old days , it looks good in a lot of ways , but ….. having no disk drive , and having to pay extra for the base seems like a big fail to me , if it was a cheap device that would be different, but it is not.
And looking at the running frame rates of some games that are very low , that would be unacceptable in my book given this is supposed to be a dedicated gaming machine.
I think I’d rather buy a pc with the bells and whistles that matter even if it’s a few bucks more.
Gow:Ragnorak looks noticeably better. Can't wait to play stellar blade soon
Is the Samsung G7 32 inch odyssey 4K 144HZ monitor going to do the job to notice a difference from base PS5 to Pro