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  • Опубликовано: 14 мар 2021
  • In Christianity, faith and works confusion abounds. Learn about the need to rightly divide, see the differences, and resolve the confusion in this lesson, “Faith and Works.”
    Find the outline here: graceambassadors.com/salvatio...
    Grace Ambassadors Bible Fellowship - March 14th, 2021

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  • @mattbachman5291
    @mattbachman5291 3 года назад +7

    Thank you Justin. Excellent teachings from KJB .

  • @kenlarson7890
    @kenlarson7890 3 года назад +17

    Watched this sermon live yesterday with my fiance and it did greatly help in further understanding how the two gospels work. Thanks again,I haven't been this edified inside of a church building since being saved.

  • @Victory-in-YAHUSHA
    @Victory-in-YAHUSHA 3 года назад +15

    This is the best teaching about the grace of our LORD! 😄

  • @rickorider
    @rickorider 3 года назад +8

    Wow! What an outstanding lesson for us all! So clearly presented to understand the different message's of Paul and James. Need to listen again and digest!
    We are so blessed to have access to these messages from anywhere in the world.
    We all need to pray for Justin and GA that God will preserve and keep them so that they can continue to make these lesson available on RUclips.
    The enemy hates this teaching as it exhalts Christ and his finished work alone and would do anything to destroy it.
    Thankyou Brother Justin and GA ...we all love your ministry and are thankful to God for showing us these truths in his Word.

  • @jaylonbachman
    @jaylonbachman 3 года назад +13

    Best sermon and explanation I have heard on this obvious contradiction between James and Paul. I wrestled with these 2 verses for a long time. Thank you, Justin!

  • @keithmelton864
    @keithmelton864 Год назад

    I dare say, a most excellent message.

  • @sagebrush0942
    @sagebrush0942 3 года назад +5

    Thank you making this video!!! I was confused and now I am not. I am always torn about what do I do? How do I live right for God??? For I have the utmost faith and now I know I have salvation🙌🏻. I now understand that there’s nothing more I have to do but have the it utmost faith. And of course try to give him as much glory as I can through living like him the best I can. Through the works that the Holy Spirit has placed inside me. Hallelujah. Thank you Jesus.🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @goldsmith001
    @goldsmith001 3 года назад +5

    Excellent teachings, thank you.

  • @rickorider
    @rickorider Год назад

    Just listened to this again in December 2022. Such a helpful message to understand.
    Faith on a covenant or faith in the work already done is do clear.

  • @RainhadoCanto11
    @RainhadoCanto11 3 года назад +7

    What an awesome teaching! Praise God for having given us the likes of Pastor Justin. Praise God, indeed!

  • @1John5-13-Lisa
    @1John5-13-Lisa 2 года назад +1

    Timothy 2:15 rightfully divide the word of truth, the whole bible is for us but not speaking to us. Ty for this teaching

  • @tamarin2k
    @tamarin2k Год назад

    Excellent teaching

  • @ravindraisaacs6280
    @ravindraisaacs6280 4 месяца назад

    Amen

  • @peponi3456
    @peponi3456 3 года назад +10

    6,66 thousand subs. Em....
    By the way best teaching on this I have ever heard

    • @rickorider
      @rickorider 3 года назад +6

      The subs are gradually going up! More and more being blessed by this excellent ministry.

    • @mattbachman5291
      @mattbachman5291 3 года назад

      Dispensationalism. Dispensatiins. BIBLICAL👍🤩

  • @Bigeinla
    @Bigeinla 7 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome lesson. Just found you an hour ago and I have 4 of your videos open. You and Dr. Gene Kim do an amazing job of simplifying complicated topics.

    • @andreaakilic9243
      @andreaakilic9243 4 месяца назад +1

      I used to watch Gene Kim all the time but this guy is way better, idk why but Gene Kim unfortunately started putting clickbait videos but his old stuff is still gold

  • @tubeornotubetube
    @tubeornotubetube 3 года назад +4

    At Marker 15:00 you spoke about the discomfort in attempting to resolve the solutions to the apparent contradiction. I agree about having discomfort for all those explanations. But this is the first time this verse has ever made sense to me and there is no discomfort at all with the explanation. It's not that I trust my comfort of the scriptures, it's just that I know that the Spirit aligns with truth. I've just subscribed because I have been searching for Bible teaching that is rightly divided for over 30 years. Thank you!

    • @sagebrush0942
      @sagebrush0942 3 года назад +1

      Amen. I’ve been searching also. It only took the first 5 min for me to know. Hallelujah for this Pastor🙏🏻🙌🏻😉

  • @Brightmorningstar7
    @Brightmorningstar7 3 года назад +1

    Seriously diggin' the necktie & definitely diggin' the Truth of this message...MARANATHA!

  • @DC11_12
    @DC11_12 3 года назад +2

    I love you sir brother Justin!
    The equation for salvation: Love = Jesus = Forgiveness = God = Love!

    • @carrythezero
      @carrythezero 3 года назад +2

      incorrect, Loving Jesus isn't the gospel of grace . Please see 1Cor 15:1-4 , Realize that you have a sin debt, believe on Jesus finished work for your salvation: His death burial and resurrection.(Love Jesus of course, he made it possible for us to be reconciled unto Him freely)

    • @DC11_12
      @DC11_12 3 года назад

      @@carrythezero
      I wasn’t talking about loving Jesus (though who wouldn’t lol)... it’s about loving/respecting each other as brothers and sisters in His Name.

    • @MrKev1664
      @MrKev1664 3 года назад

      @@carrythezero
      Christ be with you
      You are corrupting St Paul words to preach a false Gospel. (2 Peter 3:15-16)
      1 Cor 15:1-4 is the first part of a Gospel that her previously preached because that’s what it says it is.
      Any thing else would make Jesus a liar (Matt 16:21-27)
      Faith in Jesus Christ is believing he is the Son of God who dwelt amongst us and taught and we must abide in that teaching to receive the promise of eternal life he made possible by his death burial and resurrection.
      The Gospel is that God through his mercy and love will save those who repent and love him.
      If ye love me, keep my commandments.(John 14:15)
      God bless you

    • @Declaringthendfromthebeginning
      @Declaringthendfromthebeginning 3 года назад

      @@MrKev1664 are you Isreal?

    • @MrKev1664
      @MrKev1664 3 года назад

      @@Declaringthendfromthebeginning
      Christ be with you
      I am as a Christian I have been granted onto the vine (Rom 11:11-24)
      God bless you

  • @jonathanyeong324
    @jonathanyeong324 Год назад

    Very straightforward and clear message

  • @DrewCosten
    @DrewCosten 3 года назад +1

    Faith is not a work, but having to choose to have faith in the Good News is (and it’s a work nobody could accomplish; faith is a gift of God to the elect).

  • @geoffreypaneiro2021
    @geoffreypaneiro2021 7 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you Justin, I was enrolled in the hebrew roots movement for a while and didn't see the flaws in it. Because of your teachings I've come out of that movement which I now believe is another gospel that diminishes the cross of Christ. If possible could you address this movement called " Hebrew Roots". Your teaching is needed to free others who are being mislead. Thank you again.

    • @lima1877
      @lima1877 2 часа назад

      Glory to God. Keep sharing your testimony to all

  • @buckguide
    @buckguide 3 года назад +2

    Justin your a amazing very well studied man , I wish you talked slower being elderly I don’t hear you well but I am thankful for your messages

    • @wakeywakey8603
      @wakeywakey8603 Год назад

      You can change the speed to 75% or 50%. He does talk very fast

  • @claythomas7982
    @claythomas7982 Год назад

    Ephesian 2 Describes right division by Times Past(Exodus to Acts 7) But Now(Acts 9:15 to Philemon). And Ages to Come(Hebrews to Revelation)

  • @thycircle79
    @thycircle79 3 года назад

    God's slight of hand to dupe Satan, who was wiser than Daniel, it's no wonder we get confused, luckily we have the FINISHED scriptures. Grace and peace.

  • @gracebeliever127
    @gracebeliever127 3 года назад

    Thank you Justin, very helpful and timely.
    Justin, could you please answer this question:
    When Paul presented his gospel (given to him by Christ) to James, should James have continued in his own teaching of the same doctrine to the little flock, or should he have changed the message, because of the new progressive revelation and knowledge of the gospel of the grace of God for the church the body of Christ?

  • @keithclark8030
    @keithclark8030 3 года назад

    Where can I get more of these teachings? Thanks

  • @donnakeith7443
    @donnakeith7443 3 года назад +1

    Have a blessed day. From Goa,India.🌸🌺🌸🌺💗💋💗💋🙏🙏🙏🙏🎺Praying for you(rs)💋💗💋

  • @alistairmckinna4051
    @alistairmckinna4051 3 года назад

    Does a person have to do works as well as believe during the tribulation Justin? Will he enter the Kingdom and still get Eternal Life? I've heard some preachers say they would just lose rewards but still enter the Kingdom and be saved!

    • @ANGLINARMY
      @ANGLINARMY 9 месяцев назад +1

      Look up the vs that deals with the patience of the saints

  • @happycoffeehelpsdotme7205
    @happycoffeehelpsdotme7205 3 года назад

    Hurry up and get more subs!

  • @peponi3456
    @peponi3456 3 года назад

    Can someone please answer me.
    So James faith was Jesus is Lord? And after that was the mystery of Paul revealed? Or did James just say to the 12 tribes that there are still promises to be fulfilled so the must have faith in those promisies and works? Someone please

    • @dkgrace6743
      @dkgrace6743 3 года назад

      Yes, James faith (the little flock - believing Israel) was to believe Jesus was the Christ (Jn 20:31). But also there were other requirements that went along or were necessary for their faith. Such as repenting, be water baptized, keeping the law and selling all they had. This was a separate and distinct message from Paul. Both having their foundation of Jesus Christ.
      Paul's message of grace came after that gospel of the kingdom James, Peter and John preached.

    • @peponi3456
      @peponi3456 3 года назад

      @@dkgrace6743 thank you!

  • @gebrelialem6041
    @gebrelialem6041 3 года назад +1

    Peace and grace to you ! Its clear message thanks (but still with one question)
    James = not by faith only but plus works (faith with works)
    Paul =by faith only not plus works (faith with out works)
    James =he is ordained a teacher (no faults with his teaching)
    Paul =he is ordained a teacher (no faults with his teaching)
    So=paul can't correct james,james can't correct paul. Is there contradiction between their teaching ? Who do you follow.
    Catholic follows james ! (Faith+ works)
    Protestant follows paul ! (Faith only)
    Today , people follow james and paul . how? Salvation is by faith only but that faith must have works ,to be alive faith.
    By faith only +must have works =faith + works !
    The words "Only " and "must have " are not reconciled. They are -ve and +ve . that is the problem.
    But here is the qurstion ? James said, faith -work=not save !
    James 2 (KJV) -
    17: Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
    Paul said faith -works =saves
    Romans 4 (KJV) -
    5: But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
    But in pauls epistles , if a person is saved by faith only? If he canot be judged by his sins ? Why those people are judged by works?
    Galatians 5 (KJV) -
    19: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
    20: Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
    21: Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
    1 Corinthians 6 (KJV) -
    9: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
    10: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
    Ephesians 5 (KJV) -
    5: For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
    6: Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
    7: Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
    Revelation 21 (KJV) -
    8: But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
    1 Peter 4 (KJV) -
    17: For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
    So , are those people , because they have no works , not saved? ( Faith with out works saves those people or not? ) Thanks for your answer.
    I believe, The hope of man is Christ with his works only.

    • @darcya.9390
      @darcya.9390 3 года назад +4

      Your answer can be found in I Corinthians 6. If you are saved, you are not "unrighteous" -- you are righteous. It is talking about people who are in the flesh - they cannot please God. The unrighteous (who do all these things) are not saved. If you are saved, however, even if you do these fleshly things, you are righteous because you are "in the Beloved." Since Christ is righteous, if you are 'in Him,' then you are righteous as well.

    • @sagebrush0942
      @sagebrush0942 3 года назад

      @@darcya.9390 amen 🙏🏻

  • @maninthewilderness5795
    @maninthewilderness5795 3 года назад +1

    Can a person have works without faith? Yes, as evidenced in Matthew 7:21-23. These “workers of iniquity” (as the Lord called them) performed “many wonderful WORKS” in Jesus' name, but they went about to establish their own righteousness, instead of submitting themselves to the righteousness of God, which is through faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 10:3-4; 2nd Corinthians 5:21; Philippians 3:9).
    Can a person have faith without works? Yes, as evidenced in John 12:42-43. The Scriptures say that “many of the chief rulers BELIEVED” (had faith) on the Lord Jesus Christ, but they “DID NOT CONFESS HIM.” They were afraid of persecution from the Pharisees. They had faith without works! Also, we see the repentant thief on the cross, who had no time to shew forth any works.
    And again we see in 1st Corinthians 3:15, at the Judgment Seat of Christ, that some men will barely “be saved; yet so as by fire.” 1st Corinthians 3:15, “If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.” Clearly, this man was saved but HAD NO WORKS! So if works were necessary to validate faith for salvation, then this man could not have gone to Heaven. Yet, the Bible teaches that “HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED,” despite having NO WORKS whatsoever!!! So many Christians today are living shallow lives, choked by the cares and riches and pleasures of this life (Luke 8:14), who never bear any fruit (no souls saved) unto the Lord. God's desire for every believer is to mature so that they “BRING FORTH FRUIT” (Luke 8:15). Fruitless believers won't shine in Heaven (Daniel 12:3). It is every believer's duty to share the Gospel with the lost. God is our co-laborer (1st Corinthians 3:8-9). The Holy Spirit speaks to people's hearts, as our words speak to their minds. The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation to “THEM THAT BELIEVE” (Romans 1:16).
    In return for our trust (faith) in His only begotten Son, God the Father offers us forgiveness of sins and eternal life. Works have no part in God's free grace. Anyone who says that faith is invalid without "works" is adding human effort to the Gospel. Thank God for the free gift of eternal life!

  • @jamesguiton3969
    @jamesguiton3969 Год назад

    I know what you mean but I disagree on the statement that , “if we cannot explain the contradictions in our Bible then our Bible isn’t right”

  • @DJ-il8iv
    @DJ-il8iv 2 года назад

    So how did the Jews attain salvation - since none of them did their works perfectly?

    • @GospelGirl1Cor15
      @GospelGirl1Cor15 Год назад +1

      There were animal sacrifices that would cover their sins. The priest would go into the Holy place and sprinkle the animal blood on the mercy seat. Leviticus 16:1-34. Then when Christ died on the cross, he was the final once and for all sacrifice.

    • @DJ-il8iv
      @DJ-il8iv Год назад

      @@GospelGirl1Cor15 how will non Jews escape condemnation to Hell after the Rapture ? They are going to have to become Jewish I suppose. - you know - bc the Church Age ends at the Rapture

    • @GospelGirl1Cor15
      @GospelGirl1Cor15 Год назад

      @@DJ-il8ivby believing Jesus is the Messiah, keeping the commandments, and not worshipping the beast, and not taking the mark, or his number or name. It’ll be tough. Most Tribulation Saints will be killed.

    • @DJ-il8iv
      @DJ-il8iv Год назад

      @@GospelGirl1Cor15 thank you. And now your answer creates another problem…as you know many of us saved folks are putting together rapture kits for those left behind. It seems like there is conflicting theology/eschatology on exacty what one must do to be saved. That’s awful.

  • @MrKev1664
    @MrKev1664 3 года назад

    Christ be with you
    The definition of faith you give at 3:20 is wrong.
    Faith in Jesus Christ is believing he is the Son of God who can't and dealt amongst us and taught and we must abide in that teaching so we may receive his promise of eternal life made possible by his death burial and resurrection.
    You are preaching a false Gospel, it's is evil and does not have God.
    Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
    If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
    For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds. ( 2 John 9-11)
    God bless you

    • @planetruth414
      @planetruth414 3 года назад +3

      NO. Hey shill, you're a little behind.
      "BUT NOW, the righteousness of God without the law is manifested...even the righteousness of God which is by faith OF Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that BELIEVE, for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his GRACE through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which BELIEVETH in Jesus." Romans 3:21-26.
      "To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, NOT IMPUTING THEIR TRESPASSES UNTO THEM, and has committed unto us the word of reconciliation." II Corinthians 5:19
      Galatians 1:8, "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel (the one you're referring to - the Gospel of the Kingdom for Israel) unto you than that which we (Paul 49 A.D.) have preached unto you, let him be accursed."
      Galatians 1:9 "As we said before, so say I now again. If any man preach any other gospel (the one you're referring to - the Gospel of the Kingdom for Israel) unto you than that ye have received (from Paul - given to him by the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ 49 years after his ascension), let him be accursed."

    • @MrKev1664
      @MrKev1664 3 года назад

      @@planetruth414
      Christ be with you
      Interesting as we can see in Rom 3:25 it is only our old sin that we have been forgiven.
      So it is our old trespasses that are reconciled (2 Cor 5:19)
      No once saved always saved.
      Rom 3:19-31 tells us the Law does not make us righteous Gods Grace his remission for our sin does that.
      It tells us since Gentiles do not need to be made righteous neither do the Jews.
      Yet it for on to tell us that our faith must establish the Law. (Rom 3:31)
      This confirms what Jesus says about believing in him (John 14:12)
      It seems it is you preaching the false Gospel (Gal 1:8-9) since you don’t seem to believe we should do good works to receive eternal life as St Paul did. (Gal 6:1-10)
      You seem to not have God and bring an evil Gospel of it seems to leave out Christs Law (2 John 9-11)
      God bless you

    • @planetruth414
      @planetruth414 3 года назад +3

      @@MrKev1664 It seems you are on your way to hell and in dire need of God's saving gospel of Grace. You've certainly heard it in Justin's teaching here.
      Romans 3:21-26 describes Christ's righteousness for all sin - past, present and future. God imputes Christ's righteousness to those who believe in Christ's sacrificial death on the cross for all sin - "It is finished", remember? Then you are justified before God. This is the only way one can be made right with God. If you can't do anything to save yourself (and you can't) than you can't do anything to lose that salvation. It is a GIFT from God by his grace through your faith in the shed blood of Jesus.
      You don't do good works to receive eternal life - you will never get to heaven on your "To do" list. What are you going to add to the power of the blood - Christ's brutal death and powerful resurrection?? You think God's going to receive works for salvation from you after he sacrificed his son for the world and said "It is finished"? The ordinances that were against us he nailed to his cross:
      (Colossians 2:14-15) "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; {15} And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it."
      Works by walking in the Spirit AFTER you're saved, NOT works by the flesh FOR salvation. If the Jews couldn't do it, the rest of the world certainly can't - and don't. Jesus is the only one who can and did fulfill all the law. Hence Gods dispensing grace because of Christ's atonement for sin - and that alone.
      (Romans 5:9) "Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be SAVED from WRATH through him."
      (Ephesians 1:13) "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were SEALED with that holy Spirit of promise..."
      (Ephesians 4:30) "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are SEALED unto the day of redemption."
      (Colossians 1:10) "That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;"
      May God lead you to saving truth.

    • @MrKev1664
      @MrKev1664 3 года назад

      @@planetruth414
      Christ be with you
      *You say*
      seems you are on your way to hell and in dire need of God's saving gospel of Grace. You've certainly heard it in Justin's teaching here.
      *Response*
      You do not seem to know what this is
      *You say*
      Romans 3:21-26 describes Christ's righteousness for all sin - past, present and future.
      *Response*
      You do not seem to have read these verse
      Let me highlight the relevant section for you.
      Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, *to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past,* through the forbearance of God;
      Not present or future
      *You say*
      God imputes Christ's righteousness to those who believe in Christ's sacrificial death on the cross for all sin - "It is finished", remember?
      *Response*
      Once more you have not read the complete scripture.
      After this, *Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished,* *that the scripture might be fulfilled saith, I thirst.
      Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.
      When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. (John 19:28-30)
      It is his role in completing the scripture that is finished.
      *You say*
      Then you are justified before God. This is the only way one can be made right with God. If you can't do anything to save yourself (and you can't) than you can't do anything to lose that salvation. It is a GIFT from God by his grace through your faith in the shed blood of Jesus.
      *Response*
      Sorry you are wrong
      St. Paul tells people who are born to new life in Christ.
      Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? (Rom 6:16)
      You say
      You don't do good works to receive eternal life - you will never get to heaven on your "To do" list.
      *Response*
      No we don’t do good works to receive eternal life, we need Gods forgiveness for the times we do not do them to receive eternal life.
      If you don’t do Gods “too list” you will not receive his gift, he will not be mocked.
      Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
      For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
      *And let us not be weary in well doing:* for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. (Gal 6:7-9)
      *You say*
      What are you going to add to the power of the blood - Christ's brutal death and powerful resurrection?? You think God's going to receive works for salvation from you after he sacrificed his son for the world and said "It is finished"?
      From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
      Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
      But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
      Then said Jesus unto his disciples, *If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.*
      For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
      For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
      For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; *and then he shall reward every man according to his works.*
      Sorry for us it started with his death.
      *You say*
      The ordinances that were against us he nailed to his cross: (Colossians 2:14-15) "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; {15} And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it."
      *Response*
      Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: (Col 2:16)
      Here are the ordinances that have been nailed to the cross.
      It is not our need to obey Christ's commandments that have been nailed.
      *You say*
      Works by walking in the Spirit AFTER you're saved, NOT works by the flesh FOR salvation.
      *Response*
      Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. (Rom 6:18)
      But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. (Rom 6:22)
      Sorry eternal life comes at the end of a life of service.
      You say
      If the Jews couldn't do it, the rest of the world certainly can't - and don't. Jesus is the only one who can and did fulfill all the law. Hence Gods dispensing grace because of Christ's atonement for sin - and that alone.
      *Response*
      You appear to have misunderstood scripture.
      King David was a man after God own heart not because he never did wrong but because he tried to do right, because he was desperately sorry when did not and repented returning to obedience.
      We need to follow this example if we wish eternal life.
      *You say*
      (Romans 5:9) "Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be SAVED from WRATH through him."
      *Response*
      Yes as sinners we require God’s forgiveness to return to righteousness in the eyes of God.
      *You say*
      (Ephesians 1:13) "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were SEALED with that holy Spirit of promise..." (Ephesians 4:30) "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are SEALED unto the day of redemption."
      *Response*
      And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
      Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
      And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
      Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
      And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
      But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
      Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
      For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. (Eph 4:30-5:5)
      You stopped reading to soon.
      If we do not listen to the Holy Spirit and live according to Christ’s teaching the seal of the Holy Spirit will not get us any inheritance in Gods Kingdom.
      *You say*
      (Colossians 1:10) "That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;"
      *Response*
      Exactly
      God bless you

    • @planetruth414
      @planetruth414 3 года назад +3

      @@MrKev1664 Your Response:
      You do not seem to have read these verse
      Let me highlight the relevant section for you.
      Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
      Wrong - II Corinthians 5:19, "To wit, that God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself, NOT IMPUTING THEIR TRESPASSES UNTO THEM and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation." Christ paid the debt of sin that was against us - all of it.
      Paul is assuring believers that our past sins are forgiven. Once you put your faith in the shed blood you are now in the body of Christ and are no longer a sinner before God, but a SAINT - because of Christ's righteousness - and that alone. Do you fall out of the body of Christ? No. If God sees you as made right by the blood of Christ, you are now justified before him. Paul gives us the gospel of our salvation, and of course how to live however, if you don't believe Paul's gospel of salvation and how we are saved today, and keep going to a covenant (the law) that God had with Israel that is no longer in effect because Israel rejected their Messiah (the fall of Israel in Romans 9-11); and God has now offered salvation by grace to the rest of the world by faith in the shed blood, then it's pointless discussing anything further.
      You quote Paul now but I doubt you would say he is our apostle for today whom Jesus chose to take the gospel of GRACE to the rest of the world in Acts 9:15 - because you still quote Jesus who was only sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel and was under the law to fulfill it at that time - not grace.
      Salvation today is a gift where if you believe Paul's gospel of salvation God gives you eternal life and beyond. After receiving that gift, your position in Christ is SECURE, but your PRACTICE is what will be judged at the Judgment Seat of Christ. You can fall from grace by returning to the law and its ordinances, but you're still saved because if not, then Christ died in vain, which he didn't.
      BEFORE salvation, you are carnal and without the holy spirit and are still under the law of sin and death and are incapable of obeying God's directives in Romans - Philemon by the spirit.
      But AFTER salvation because of Christ, you have been freed from the law of sin and death.
      Romans 12:1-21, "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. 3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. 4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: 5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith; 7 Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching; 8 Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness. 9 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. 10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another; 11 Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord; 12 Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer; 13 Distributing to the necessity of saints; given to hospitality. 14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. 15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep. 16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits. 17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good."
      Galatians 5:13, "For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another."
      May God lead you to saving truth.