When they first announced that PoE 1 and PoE 2 would be separate games and they intended to continue to support both it seemed pretty obvious that they were being overconfident. Unless you double your staff it’s pretty hard to double your workload.
If they are going to continue to need to shift personnel back and forth like this, their 6-12 month estimate for the PoE2 official release is less and less likely, which will also piss off a lot of people.
@@douglaura2652 Yes I predict EA to be at least 2 years, unless they arbitrarily exit early access without all acts or classes (which Last Epoch also did with it's unfinished campaign)
I don't think they will need to keep shifting resources as much throughout most of EA. 12 months for full release definitely doesn't seem realistic no matter what they do though. I wish they never would have given the 6-12 months estimate and been more vague about it.
A couple of notes: For one, you have the timeline off a bit. It's not that 3.26 will come out a few weeks after 0.2.0, that's when they'll *start* working on it, apart from some nebulous "pre-production" if they have capacity for it in the meantime. Second, while I've defended GGG in the past time and time again and frequently praised them for transparency, *this* was not transparency. Transparency would have been announcing months ago that work hadn't even started on a new league and that they don't know when it will. This is damage control *at best* after delaying this announcement so as to not sour the mood and hurt player numbers and mtx sales for PoE2. I really don't want to have to say that. I've bought my fair share of supporter packs over the years because I truly love the game and supported the company behind it. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying they're gonna have to earn my trust back before they get another cent.
I believe they didn't talk about it months ago because they genuinely thought they could do it still, and then PoE 2 launched, things changed, things got mismanaged. They had their long Holiday as well while PoE 2 was on fire. Its not maliciousness its just a screw up, nothing to do with supporter packs/mtx for poe 2 thats a ridiculous leap in logic because it doesn't even make sense business wise.
You are not their core audience anymore. They don't care if you stop giving them money. Their new casual base that may or may not continue to come back to poe 2 is what they are focused on now.
an aspirant can afford to be promising an emperor must keep those promises... also what transparency? They knew for weeks, maybe months they forked up, and gave use silent treatment..
I see a simple solution, give us what 40k inquisitor did when it finished it's last season, league selection when you create a new character, so you can determine what you want in your run.
@@gerbenvanerkelens4475 yea why? Are you ok? Do you need friends? Why are you trying to build a para social relationship with a streamer? I looked at your other comments on this channel. It’s concerning. You think raxx is your friend and he’s not
I think POE content makers need to look up the word transparency. We are being told now what they knew back in November last year. We are being told this now because they cant really say nothing about it anymore. Back against the wall kind of thing. That is not being transparent.
>"POE 2 will be just as a new story acts in POE 1" >"POE 2 will be a new separate game" >"POE 2 will not affect POE 1 development" >"POE 1 new league will come live in 2026" >>> You are here >"POE 1 End of Service announcement"
I mean, it’s sad to see but it’s about time. To the people flipping out over them having to wait longer for a league shows how ignorant and entitled people are. Just because YOU decided to throw huge amounts of money at someone doesn’t make you entitled to them sacrificing Poe 2 development to focus on a 10 year old game
Raxx this wasnt transparency this was damage control with more emoty promises and corpo speak from Jonathan. This week was supposed to be the announcement of 3.26 and instead we hear at the last minute that work hasnt even started and wont be starting.
totally. we've seen these moves so many times that the "being transparent but actually not" doesnt trick us anymore, but a lot of people arent aware of this... well, time will speak
It’s hard to make excuses for GGG these days with how abundant their resources are. They aren’t this nichè indie team of friends out of Auckland like 2015 and it’s time we start holding them to their standards.
i assume it is really hard to expand the team and make content at the same time , they were clearly overly optimistic and set unrealistic goals for the last year and ended up disappointing many people
Settlers released in summer and 3.26 was supposed to launch in October a month before POE2 launched. Hearing in February they haven't even started development on a league that should have been done 3 months ago is not being transparent, they flat out lied to everyone. The shitty thing is they could have put in minimal effort to relaunch one of the past popular leagues. I saw people on reddit say 'Poe 3.13 Ritual was pinnacle PoE' so if so many people think that, relaunch that and you'd have the community falling over praising them. They could just say 'we've moved most of our devs so we're relaunching a past league' and I think 99% of the playerbase would find it acceptable, esp if it was a banger league from the past.
Is not lie because they not know Poe2 will became this big even the Poe is big project but now it's changed because to many people go to Poe 2 that's why they need to fix Poe 2 first than delay Poe 1 but they will give Poe 1 league.
They haven't even started development and won't for weeks. If they make an April release then the poe league is going to be a joke and not worth playing anyways.
@@artemkoropotkin3047 Yep, even if I'm worried about poe 1, I personally will survive the lack of a league, since there are a lot of other games and time has just been freed up for them. Some of the comments I've read on the forum/reddit are very similar to people who have drug withdrawal. They didn't get the league on time, and they're already ready to burn GGG to the ground..
@@Esotericspirits dude, I’m super happy. I’m saying in Dec Raxx said this was the best time ever for ARPG’s and just a month later he’s saying it’s a bad time
Transparency? Bollocks! They've lied about several things now. Just review some of the most "recent" interviews done while Chris Wilson was still in the building, and compare that to what we are being fed now. This isn't an opinion, you can check the facts of the matter for yourself. Tencent probably demanded a holiday season payday (EA), no matter what. Well, that last bit IS an opinion.
After the huge success of PoE 2 I don’t know who didn’t see this coming , They basically hedged if PoE 2 launch didn’t go good they woulda split up devs
The thing is, poe 1 has still had comparable success in terms of revenue. Each league they’ve made something like ~$30m. EA sales on PoE2 was more but that was a one time thing. And of course it was going to be successful BECAUSE it is propped up by PoE1’s success. And I have got to mention that if players knew the state of PoE 2 would be like this, I don’t think it would be nearly successful as it is. I am stunned that the state of the game is worst than the already lowered expectations I’ve had for the game. It is only highlighting why PoE1 will be the goat for a lot of ARPG enthusiasts. Reinventing the wheels for the sake of just being different is not the best approach. I really hope Jonathan formulates a healthy restructuring within GGG to keep support going for PoE1. It can still make money. It’s worth keeping it alive.
I do NOT give them credit in their transparency. They more or less held a carrot on a stick over us for months only to rug pull at the very last second when they KNEW. They could have told us at any time. If they had said "hey guys it's just taking too much from us to do both atm we are delaying 3.26 for the foreseeable future" players would be pissed as they are now, but marginally less so because they didn't wait until the last minute to rug pull all the while KNOWING the actuality of the matter.
Well I do admit they underestimated how much it would take to run both games, I do understand why they need to pull resources to prioritize POE2. POE2 was such a success despite the flaws of an EA game, it makes sense to make it a priority. I mean, name a gaming company/developer who would publicly announce their mistake? In GGG I trust.
What transparency? They did the thing and then admitted doing it. That's not transparency. But I guess all content creators who want to shill need to say the keyword :(
My problem is what happens when the next major POE2 update has problems as well? Which if there's anything we know from GGG's history is there will be hiccups. Will they keep till their word or will they sacrifice POE1 resources again? That's the part I'm worried about
If u think about the information they give u will realize that they knew since july that there wouldnt be a new league for at least 7 months. But they didnt communicate it, instead dragged it out till the last moment. I hope thats not a pattern we will see again
What transparency? They knew for at least several weeks and announce it on a day they are supposed to be showcasing a new league. This is about the money, not the loyal fans that brought them here over all those years
Am I only one that doesn't see GGG as being transparent? Everyone knew already it is the case, it is delayed, it is close-to-abandoned. They just said it out loud because people were demanding some official statement. They could be transparent months ago that they stopped working on PoE1 and there are no plans to continue development in near future. Months ago. Then it would be transparency. Now they just react to people outburst.
Have you watched the video? They said they thought they had time. They were optimistic to give you something good. When was the last time you called someone weeks in advance to say that you wont be there because you think something might come up at the last minute? Never!
Well you can always be more transparent. Crediting them for transparency refering not for them being absolutely clear about anything anytime, but for them being more transparent than pretty much everybody else in industry.
@@elijahpolachek8201 If you think describing the context of "transparency" is shilling, you spend too much time online, my man. Touch grass. Use snow shovel if needed.
Stop dialing the crybaby to 12. GGG was being as transparent as possible. This is not a panic coverage of a secret. It's simply normal humans coming to terms with the reality of the situation and admitting they didn't make their goals. Nothing sinister or crazy. Just good old fashioned miscalculation.
GGG trying to do too much with too little staff but at the same time small close knit teams make some of the best things when it comes to art and software development. a double edged sword. and I really do not see a solution for them that keeps both games at top quality
@@bukakabarabaka They tried doing more frequent seasons but they recognized that the smaller updates weren't enough to keep people playing for long, better to have 1 season with new league mechanic and content changes/additions like POE1 than to have multiple seasons that only add a single mechanic or system
Normally 99% with you Raxx. But "transparency" is a BAD TAKE. No. GGG had said PoE2 would NOT impact PoE1. GGG pulled these resources NOT TODAY, BUT MONTHS back. They COULD have been transparent and said this MONTHS ago. There is no one on PoE1 right now.
They did say just before PoE 2 launched that they had to pull the PoE 1 team in to help with the final stretch of development. They should definitely have been clearer about where 3.26 was, though - if they had said up-front it wouldn't have felt like a huge problem. I'm not sure why they didn't make the decision then to just hold PoE 1 leagues for a while through launch, but I suppose (as they say) it was just a case of overconfidence.
They announced PoE2 as an update, and changed their mind almost immediately as far as they've said, but didn't tell us for 2 years. Then they do this with PoE 3.26. They aren't being transparent. They're lying about big shit and then waiting as long as they can to reveal the truth to limit damage.
It sucks too because poe 2 is really really bad, like it’s not a good game at all. No one wants to admit it but it’s no better than d4. Most of us poe 1 players that never stopped playing it feels it the worst like myself. I stopped playing settlers league like 3 months ago, and now I’m stuck where I’m back to playing Diablo 2. This is just crazy. Tbh…I kind of figured this was going to happen. GGG wants so badly for poe 2 to be better than poe 1 but it never will be and I think they’re going to realize that once 3.26 finally launches. I see it everyday, multiple people coming to try poe 1 after playing poe 2 and even they admit how much better poe 1 is. This is really shit news for the community as a whole. For all those enjoying poe 2, I envy you, because you guys will be receiving the treatment from all of us who have invested into poe 1 for all those years. Enjoy it!
I've been worried about POE 1for a while. And seeing the numbers POE2 got, was even more clear where they would prioritize their resources. Which felt bad as someone who bounced off POE2 pretty hard. But the lack of communication about POE1 is what bothers me. This isn't really transparency; they knew this for months and dodged the question when asked before.
Its not transparency when he knew since December that they had not started working on 3.26 and waited until nearly the very last day of Jan to announce it People need to stop fucking praising them when its a clear rug pull and them lying to their players
A lot of those same clowns with GGG is a small indie company and that their leaders don't answer to tencent. Yeah the same mega corporation that owns GGG.
Ben is spot on about PoE2. It suffers from far too many bad design decisions. GGG is likely too entrenched to backtrack. PoE1 is the best game ever made, imho, and it sucks to see it left to rot on the vine while GGG spend all resources on a far inferior game, Ruthless 2.0, eg PoE2. Tencent will probably appoint an adult to better manage their investment in GGG, and game quality will likely suffer. Would be nice to see GGG turn things around, but I very much doubt it. I hate to say it, but mapping is more fun in D4 than PoE2...
"spot on?" he said it was DOOMED, the most hilarious hyperbole i've ever seen in my life, and i've been playing video games since the early 90s. People aren't remembering what the point of early access is. I've been in EA's where they fundamentally changed the game's core mechanics completely before release, in fact as we speak that's happening in PoP The Rogue on a monthly basis. Games can go from unplayable trash to an awesome product based on the community EA feedback, that's literally what this period of time is for
@@ELPsteel Well they'd better do that, bc the core game mechanics are kind of awful as things stand now. Maybe the game could be good if they just undo every design choice they've made for the last 5 years
@@GrindinRyan again this is massive hyperbole. “Every design choice?” Come on man, the game has been in EA for two months and is already better than D4 is after an expansion. They also just postponed PoE1 season because they’re pulling staff onto PoE2 to expedite the stuff we’re talking about. Let them cook
@@HellYeahBabyLol Look I know POE1 is a hard game and a lot of people couldn't really get into it, didn't want to put in the effort to learn it etc. But maybe do some research before you talk about how much the games are the same next time
I definitely think GGG don't want poe2 players going back to poe1 which everyone loves and leave the new game behind. That's why they specially mention not introducing league until after poe2 official release comes out.
Over the last week i've been checking the poe website everyday for a new league, poe2 isn't giving me what poe1 does I'm glad people loves poe2 but man it's been 6 months since i had anything to eat
Situation is that bad; pulling poe1 team out for help to solve poe2 issues and riching its updates. While doing that, they are eating their own words. its EA game already would be more understandable if update comes late, would be more meaningful if u update PoE1
It was always extremely unrealistic for them to run both games. Realistically their original vision was much more manageable and considering how similar the games are was the best choice. (That choice being POE 2 being an additional campaign on top of Poe 1 and then the endgame merges.)
no it wasnt ... poE1 earns a bank so it can have its own staff while most of the company works on the new project while leaving the PoE1 staff alone ... what happens is incompetent leadership forced PoE1 staff to work on PoE2 ...
It wasn't unrealistic at all. How long do you think the massive majority of their employees have been working on PoE2? It's been years. Literally a tiny fraction of their employees were keeping PoE1 going for the last handful of leagues and those employees literally made the best league PoE1 ever had and broke their peak concurrent player numbers with the last league. The issue is Chris for whatever reason decided to rush the game out for a 2024 deadline instead of letting it cook in the oven as long as it needed to which is what ended up cannibalizing the few who remained on PoE1. That's the decision that made this shitty situation occur.
Honestly I think you hit the nail on the head with this one. It is sad that PoE1 league is delayed and we are all gutted about it. However I think people forget that GGG has pumped out amazing content for free for the last 10 years. We can give them a break and the time they need for all the quality gaming they have brought to us.
Phox Private league is where it's at guys. Last 40 days has 7K people signed up as of right now starts tomorrow. Come build your settlers town for the third time with a new build and a new group of friends, or maybe if you're a Poe 2 newbie you can take your new skills and bring them to the OG game and see how you do.l😊😊😊
there is no way in hell they can turn around a league in 3 months on dev time, even if they do a microscopic league a la D4. so I think we won't see it before june AT LEAST.
Im just sad that they tread PoE1 and its community this way. As they said they want to have 2 best game in the genre, PoE1 is 1st, PoE 2 is like 4th right now so they need to work on it. Sad that they didnt even restart season with something simply like legacy league. We dont need much as PoE1 players we just want something... We just wanted for them to show us they still care about their roots
poe1 and 2 are two different games but poe2 is the future. Poe1 would have to implement wasd movement to be in the same weight group as poe2. PoE2 is definitely the superior game out of the 2 for more people right now. Their statistics show this fact as well because they have just openly admitted that they are focusing on 2 and a company would not do that if the two had the same amount of players. GGG is getting bigger and they focus on the game that makes more money atm. Roots are a good thing and I know the feeling when you are left behind because you prefer an earlier version of the game but a company obviously will have to focus on the game that raises more capital.. I'm sure once they brought out a huge patch and released poe2 properly, they will go back to catch up on poe1.
@@davidfilep1106 poe2 lack a lot of things that are not easy to implement to be fun in a long term. I know that in 2 years (mb) the game will be in a better place and we have to let them cook thats why i was hoping for PoE1 to relaunch old league (that didnt go into core) like syntesis or crucible or do somthing fun like legacy league where u can drop legacy version of uniques and made it void league - those would be easy to implement wont take long time to prepare (they dont have to do meta shifts or balance anything - just reset economy and give us something small). Its just sad to watch that they are slowly killing the best hack and slash game to build new one which is not even close to be as goog right now (and i dont mean that PoE2 lacks content, it lack depth into mechanics, endgmae need to be reworked from scrach coz current one isnt fun to be run over and over endlessly, passive tree is one dimensional (straight forward), atlas tree is just dissapoiting, combat after campaign is just 1 button playstyle - and its not in PoE1, crafting doesnt exist if u dont run rituals 12h/day for weeks, most of skills are unusable, etc). We love poe coz of its deepth, complicity, build variety (even if they dont add new gems or uniques ppl are still finding new strong build combinations) and for letting players do what they enjoy in endgame thats what makes poe poe. PoE2 is just beautifull looking game with smooth animations and godly WSAD movement but its lack of PoE. They known that they wont make the poe1 league in December and instead of lying to us they should communicate it earlier not w8 for the last day to say that they did nothning and they didnt care at all about ppl who made them who thy are right now.
i dont have faith in devs anymore, lost that about a decade ago. this wasnt transparent, its damage control because everything they promised is being shown to be a lie. poe 1 is the better game, poe 2 is just a place for new arpg players to start because its alot easier to understand. ggg risking there cash cow for an EA game is a terrible business move
Massive POE1 fan, and enjoying POE2.... big fan of GGG ... but this time, I don't think "transparency" is the best summation ... transparency would have been being clear in november that they had basically gone into fire-fighting mode for POE 2 and that POE1 was on hold for the foreseeable future. Not going anywhere, still looking forward to when we get updates, but I would say this is at best very DELAYED TRANSPARENCY
I had to do the calculation as soon as i heard it. For perspective, 1300 hours have passed since POE2 released. But hey, if @Aschnack is right and he's made thousands in that time, can't knock it.
Seems less like ‘transparency’ and more like “we’ve majorly screwed up the project management again on both our games - and instead of saying anything earlier - we’ve waited until the very last minute to let anyone know”
Downvoted due to the tone of schilling to stay in the good graces of the devs. They straight up lied to the player base multiple times. They literally robbed Peter to pay Paul and rug pulled the entire community on an unfinished game that’s more likely to fail than succeed at this point. They still have acts to create, classes and ascendancies to create and they need to totally overhaul end game. And they just admitted they can’t successfully work on both games at the same time. Poe 1 is dead, and due to that Poe 2 will die as players will start to boycott out of spite. I can’t see them coming back from this. This is the end of the studio as we know it.
This is looking like a bit of a disaster. I'm struggling to see what their vision even is for the game at this point. They could have made a good single player action RPG and just made the finished campaign and story. But they short-changed that to give us an unbalanced, unrewarding and punishing endgame where the gameplay loop is either sit on the trade site trying to get people to message back about items you want to buy, or transmute millions of white items hoping to one day make something usable
How about to be appreciated that they keep the original game alive instead of closing it? And it’s obvious that PoE 2 on such an epic success that they have more people then ever before, and it’s definitely not solely original PoE community achievement. Have patience or just move on, this is a business and it dictates changing of priorities.
I would have so much happier if we got a poe 1 league and waited longer for the next phase of poe 2 beta even 6 months later. I’m probably not coming back for the poe 2 patch unless it’s huge anyway
There are too many haters who just hate on anything and everything, even the things they like because they are severely addicted and/or traumatized and have not learned how to process in healthy ways. They want everything now! Now! NOW!
Transparency? lmfao how about putting on the 3.26 timeline that we would get an announcenent in late January. Behind the scenes they pulled all resources off poe 1 for months and then let the community know that they havent even started development. That is the opposite of Transparency. Transparency would have been letting the community know when they made that decision that all development on poe 1 is not going happen for months.
They literally explained multiple time already they pulled PoE 1 dev to work on endgame when they stopped working on Act4 to 6 to give more endgame for the launch. It's not GGG's fault if you have the memory of a goldfish and can't remember something they said multiple time already...
it would be transparent at the launch of kalgur it would be damage control at ea release now its just look at us (pretending that we) communicating at whats going on
Bad time for argp? Dude grim dawn will get a new expansion this year. Now THAT is actually one of the best if not the best arpg ever. No forced online bullshit, tons of build possibilities, incredible amount of content and super fun
Think he meant it a bad time for argp glazing streamers that have been licking the boot of POE2 for clicks. Now they'll have to eat crow and go back to something like D4 for engagement.
POE2 made me an ARPG fan, it was super fun until reaching the endgame. This made me try out POE1, learning the ropes in Settlers of Kalguur, getting ready for the new league. Very disappointed that there is no new league, I would be happy with a legacy league just for an economy reset so I can experience it, since Settlers is kinda dead.
@ POE1 I am on early red maps, I was farming essences but they didn’t sell too well I imagine the demand for them is low, especially the transformed essences haven’t sold any unfortunately.
@@shrmp02 maybe farming and crafting with rog! Have you gotten your screaming and incandescent invitation yet? I really like those fights! Are you playing necro settlers or normal settlers?
Unfortunately most trade leagues are dead at that time. I'm an SSF uber killer. I recommend you learn expedition, harvest, heist and sanctum. This will give you currency, crafting resources and raw divines for meta crafts
I think LE will do fine going up against regular leagues/seasons. It was just unfortunate that there was a D4 expansion AND the sequel to the beloved POE within a couple of months. Seeing how POE2 didn't drop below 200k concurrent on steam until like last week, I think they are completely justified in that decision!
The moment you stop asking questions is the moment you turn into a blind zealot. Transparency my ass, they should have said it 2 months ago. GGG had great communication throughout the years, so why stop that? Excuses needs to be made to justify that.
It's actually wild the hype for this game got me, biggest regret purchase of 2024, even more so now that they've outright lied about keeping boths game and neither interrupting the development of the other PoE1 was and still is lightning in a bottle and they're sidelining it, that's crazy
Really looking forward to Last Epoch's update. The game still needs a lot(it's maybe halfway there) I think they are making good decisions almost every step of the way. Lots of fun builds, skill trees are great, crafting is good, now just build up all the systems around them.
Adam Jackson n his horrendous kiss/kill take on Sorc is NOT missed by me. Good riddance. He had some odd fetish with punishing Sorc players who wanted power but he sure as hell had no issues with other classes 😂. Bye Felicia!
Hot take, but after 100+ hours in poe2 I actually don't think is as good as people have been saying it is. It IS a great starting point, but honestly I think its kinda weak compared to fleshed out poe1 and LE updates. poe1 was always going to be completly back seated even though I personally feel poe2 will never be better than it. Guess we'll find out :) I also do understand its still 'early access' but kmon bois we all know what that means so it cant be used as an excuse ;)
Are you saying that LE has a good endgame? because it doesn't. It's just as bad as D4. PoE2 endgame (while it's pretty terrible atm) is still much better than D4 and LE.
How are they transparent , all I heard was blatant lies , like lets be real any company that would seek that sweet cash would not work on PoE 1 at this current stage, they might seem regretful but I bet my left nut if they could go back in time they would do the same shit, so no this is not being transparent this is being deceitful
I mean, they could literally let the PoE1 devs work on PoE1 instead of PoE2 0.2 so they do not have to turn back time or anything. But they keep them and primise to let them go back to PoE1 after. At what point people stop believeing them?
I'm in the same boat as you Raxx, I'm personally fine with a bit of a lul in arpg content but GGG should not have taken all development resources away from poe1.
3:10 This shouldn't be an issue. When they can put the devs back to Poe1 they need to build the league first. So April is probably when they start development, I don't expect a release before June. Especially when they want to get out some more Poe2 patches in between.
The biggest issue is even expanding both teams would not fix the problem. The biggest issue they said was they had to take highly experience devs from PoE1 to help with PoE2. Its clear as day that PoE2's dev team lacks experience compared to the 10 or so devs that have been hardcarrying PoE1 on their backs for the past couple of years.
GGG: Once the fires are out, we'll go back to PoE1. This is like the first time dictator who says, once I have things settled, I'll give up my dictator powers. That day never comes.
lol if the last epoch patch comes out in April and between that and PoE I will be Last epoch allllll the wayyyyyyyy!!!! Game is epic and is only held back by lack of updates. BRING IT ON.
I would like to commend GGG for their transparency on the video they just put out apologizing for not being transparent enough and letting the community believe something based off gossip and rumor.
This is just another STUPID AND FOOLISH decision that GGG have made of late - I do not, nor will I ever likely know what has changed behind the scenes at GGG, but whatever it is - As disasterous as PoE 2 was the last time I tried it (mid-jan for the record), further delaying a PoE 1 season becuse "reasons" is gaming suicide. YOU DO NOT DELAY the money-maker, while developing something experimental!
Original exec/ownership cashed out already. Tencent owns it now. It's a pump and dump situation. They'll ride the wave/hype as much as possible around POE2. Which as it is turning out, won't be that long.
When they first announced that PoE 1 and PoE 2 would be separate games and they intended to continue to support both it seemed pretty obvious that they were being overconfident. Unless you double your staff it’s pretty hard to double your workload.
I think they had a decent reason they thought it was possible, poe 1 has been run by a skeleten crew of like a dozen people for the last few leagues.
I was extremely excited for PoE2 until they announced it'd be a separate game. That killed ALL hype for me.
you dont need double the staff to put out minimal content like leagues ...
Seems like an obvious answer... hire more fucking people. It's not like they didn't just make a killing from early access
@@Asghaad Yeah, but POE leagues are NOT minimal content. They are huge!
Did anybody expect something else? It was clear that POE1 will get less ressources after the release of POE2.
And three years before that...
I did. They were very confident in the announcements and i expected a new league by now
Less resources and no resources are a big difference
They brought the entire staff over to try and figure out how to fix warrior.
@@The0nlyy +10% more dps -30% attack speed. Maybe throw in +10 life if we're feeling generous.
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If they are going to continue to need to shift personnel back and forth like this, their 6-12 month estimate for the PoE2 official release is less and less likely, which will also piss off a lot of people.
It was never going to be a 6 month ea, even 12 months seems unlikely given 2 months are basically gone already
They try to cave in to both sides, HUGE mistake!
@@douglaura2652 Yes I predict EA to be at least 2 years, unless they arbitrarily exit early access without all acts or classes (which Last Epoch also did with it's unfinished campaign)
I don't think they will need to keep shifting resources as much throughout most of EA. 12 months for full release definitely doesn't seem realistic no matter what they do though. I wish they never would have given the 6-12 months estimate and been more vague about it.
They can't take more than 12 months to finish poe2 because of steam rules.
Credit for transparency? They told us 4 months after they knew they took everyone off PoE in August.
A couple of notes:
For one, you have the timeline off a bit. It's not that 3.26 will come out a few weeks after 0.2.0, that's when they'll *start* working on it, apart from some nebulous "pre-production" if they have capacity for it in the meantime.
Second, while I've defended GGG in the past time and time again and frequently praised them for transparency, *this* was not transparency. Transparency would have been announcing months ago that work hadn't even started on a new league and that they don't know when it will. This is damage control *at best* after delaying this announcement so as to not sour the mood and hurt player numbers and mtx sales for PoE2. I really don't want to have to say that. I've bought my fair share of supporter packs over the years because I truly love the game and supported the company behind it. I'm sure I'm not alone in saying they're gonna have to earn my trust back before they get another cent.
Your take is wrong, no need to feel bad about it
I believe they didn't talk about it months ago because they genuinely thought they could do it still, and then PoE 2 launched, things changed, things got mismanaged. They had their long Holiday as well while PoE 2 was on fire. Its not maliciousness its just a screw up, nothing to do with supporter packs/mtx for poe 2 thats a ridiculous leap in logic because it doesn't even make sense business wise.
You are not their core audience anymore. They don't care if you stop giving them money. Their new casual base that may or may not continue to come back to poe 2 is what they are focused on now.
Skill issue tbh
@ Casual? Lol... why do you just make up stuff in your head.
an aspirant can afford to be promising an emperor must keep those promises... also what transparency? They knew for weeks, maybe months they forked up, and gave use silent treatment..
I see a simple solution, give us what 40k inquisitor did when it finished it's last season, league selection when you create a new character, so you can determine what you want in your run.
Inquisitor Martyr? did not know they added that. Might fire it up again then
@SumGuy66 yep they did last year
Warhammer 40,000 Inquisitor - Martyr? Playing that at the minute. Love the Sister of Battle with her flamers.
Ah Inquisitor martyr, a game with so much potential yet fell so short
THIS!
This thumbnail is insane lmao
You give this guy money every month and you don’t even realize he uses this thumbnail all the time? I couldn’t imagine how miserable your life is
@stu.chainz are you okay bro?
@@gerbenvanerkelens4475 yea why? Are you ok? Do you need friends? Why are you trying to build a para social relationship with a streamer? I looked at your other comments on this channel. It’s concerning. You think raxx is your friend and he’s not
@stu.chainz friend? He's my husband ❤️
His asscheeks are so far apart 😂
I think POE content makers need to look up the word transparency. We are being told now what they knew back in November last year. We are being told this now because they cant really say nothing about it anymore. Back against the wall kind of thing. That is not being transparent.
>"POE 2 will be just as a new story acts in POE 1"
>"POE 2 will be a new separate game"
>"POE 2 will not affect POE 1 development"
>"POE 1 new league will come live in 2026"
>>> You are here
>"POE 1 End of Service announcement"
THIS
sounds about right
They pulled out everyone from poe1 and they didnt cancel it, so no. poe1 is not dead.
Poe is complete game. Now it's time for 2
I mean, it’s sad to see but it’s about time. To the people flipping out over them having to wait longer for a league shows how ignorant and entitled people are. Just because YOU decided to throw huge amounts of money at someone doesn’t make you entitled to them sacrificing Poe 2 development to focus on a 10 year old game
Raxx this wasnt transparency this was damage control with more emoty promises and corpo speak from Jonathan. This week was supposed to be the announcement of 3.26 and instead we hear at the last minute that work hasnt even started and wont be starting.
totally.
we've seen these moves so many times that the "being transparent but actually not" doesnt trick us anymore, but a lot of people arent aware of this... well, time will speak
It’s hard to make excuses for GGG these days with how abundant their resources are. They aren’t this nichè indie team of friends out of Auckland like 2015 and it’s time we start holding them to their standards.
i assume it is really hard to expand the team and make content at the same time , they were clearly overly optimistic and set unrealistic goals for the last year and ended up disappointing many people
dude they are still miles ahead of anyone else.
Settlers released in summer and 3.26 was supposed to launch in October a month before POE2 launched. Hearing in February they haven't even started development on a league that should have been done 3 months ago is not being transparent, they flat out lied to everyone. The shitty thing is they could have put in minimal effort to relaunch one of the past popular leagues. I saw people on reddit say 'Poe 3.13 Ritual was pinnacle PoE' so if so many people think that, relaunch that and you'd have the community falling over praising them. They could just say 'we've moved most of our devs so we're relaunching a past league' and I think 99% of the playerbase would find it acceptable, esp if it was a banger league from the past.
Is not lie because they not know Poe2 will became this big even the Poe is big project but now it's changed because to many people go to Poe 2 that's why they need to fix Poe 2 first than delay Poe 1 but they will give Poe 1 league.
I've been playing Torchlight Infinite for the past week, and surprisingly, the game is really good.
its the more fun i got over d4 and poe2
I've been playing Torchlight 2 lol
If it comes down to Last Epoch or Path of Exile in April... I will be playing Last Epoch. I am very curious what their endgame updates look like.
The odd hour here n there I was playing Diablo II reimagined and remodded.
Lot of fun. Even bought Grim Dawn. So good.
I'll be playing both! PoE2 is just getting started.
I wish I could enjoy last epoch. The clay art style is so dull to me
They haven't even started development and won't for weeks. If they make an April release then the poe league is going to be a joke and not worth playing anyways.
@@mattb1638 Agreed. I'd expect it around June at this point. They haven't even started pre-work on it.
Is that Pumba at 0:41 ?
LOL
Raxx December 2024: This is the best time in the history of mankind to be an ARPG player
Raxx January 2025: This is terrible time to be an ARPG player
Only if you care about POE 1. Plenty of people don't give 2 craps about it and prefer development on POE 2. No loss for me.
D4, PoE2, Last Epoch...
cry elsewhere plz
@@artemkoropotkin3047 Yep, even if I'm worried about poe 1, I personally will survive the lack of a league, since there are a lot of other games and time has just been freed up for them. Some of the comments I've read on the forum/reddit are very similar to people who have drug withdrawal. They didn't get the league on time, and they're already ready to burn GGG to the ground..
@@Esotericspirits dude, I’m super happy. I’m saying in Dec Raxx said this was the best time ever for ARPG’s and just a month later he’s saying it’s a bad time
@@artemkoropotkin3047 Exactly. I'll never touch poe1 but I cant stop playing poe2
Transparency? Bollocks! They've lied about several things now. Just review some of the most "recent" interviews done while Chris Wilson was still in the building, and compare that to what we are being fed now. This isn't an opinion, you can check the facts of the matter for yourself. Tencent probably demanded a holiday season payday (EA), no matter what. Well, that last bit IS an opinion.
After the huge success of PoE 2 I don’t know who didn’t see this coming , They basically hedged if PoE 2 launch didn’t go good they woulda split up devs
The thing is, poe 1 has still had comparable success in terms of revenue. Each league they’ve made something like ~$30m. EA sales on PoE2 was more but that was a one time thing. And of course it was going to be successful BECAUSE it is propped up by PoE1’s success. And I have got to mention that if players knew the state of PoE 2 would be like this, I don’t think it would be nearly successful as it is. I am stunned that the state of the game is worst than the already lowered expectations I’ve had for the game. It is only highlighting why PoE1 will be the goat for a lot of ARPG enthusiasts. Reinventing the wheels for the sake of just being different is not the best approach. I really hope Jonathan formulates a healthy restructuring within GGG to keep support going for PoE1. It can still make money. It’s worth keeping it alive.
I do NOT give them credit in their transparency. They more or less held a carrot on a stick over us for months only to rug pull at the very last second when they KNEW. They could have told us at any time. If they had said "hey guys it's just taking too much from us to do both atm we are delaying 3.26 for the foreseeable future" players would be pissed as they are now, but marginally less so because they didn't wait until the last minute to rug pull all the while KNOWING the actuality of the matter.
Well I do admit they underestimated how much it would take to run both games, I do understand why they need to pull resources to prioritize POE2. POE2 was such a success despite the flaws of an EA game, it makes sense to make it a priority. I mean, name a gaming company/developer who would publicly announce their mistake? In GGG I trust.
cry more. you have no idea whats going on behind the scenes.
No matter when they told us it would always feel like they pulled the rug. The credit they get is for even admitting it
Lol you have no idea what a rug pull is. I swear some of you folks acting like drama queens
@@kr3515 Rug pulled? for a free game?
RIP PoE, goat ARPG. Mageblood is just a fond memory
We'll always have Settlers league
What transparency? They did the thing and then admitted doing it. That's not transparency. But I guess all content creators who want to shill need to say the keyword :(
My problem is what happens when the next major POE2 update has problems as well? Which if there's anything we know from GGG's history is there will be hiccups. Will they keep till their word or will they sacrifice POE1 resources again? That's the part I'm worried about
If u think about the information they give u will realize that they knew since july that there wouldnt be a new league for at least 7 months. But they didnt communicate it, instead dragged it out till the last moment. I hope thats not a pattern we will see again
last epoch should do a move and put out their update as soon as possible, cause poe struggles and d4 is mid anyways
Good news is we have Pohx new league tomorrow
What transparency? They knew for at least several weeks and announce it on a day they are supposed to be showcasing a new league. This is about the money, not the loyal fans that brought them here over all those years
Atleast diablo 3 is looking fun this weekend. lmao.
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Am I only one that doesn't see GGG as being transparent? Everyone knew already it is the case, it is delayed, it is close-to-abandoned. They just said it out loud because people were demanding some official statement. They could be transparent months ago that they stopped working on PoE1 and there are no plans to continue development in near future. Months ago. Then it would be transparency. Now they just react to people outburst.
Have you watched the video? They said they thought they had time. They were optimistic to give you something good. When was the last time you called someone weeks in advance to say that you wont be there because you think something might come up at the last minute? Never!
Well you can always be more transparent. Crediting them for transparency refering not for them being absolutely clear about anything anytime, but for them being more transparent than pretty much everybody else in industry.
@@sinner5452 stop shilling so hard
@@elijahpolachek8201 If you think describing the context of "transparency" is shilling, you spend too much time online, my man. Touch grass. Use snow shovel if needed.
Stop dialing the crybaby to 12.
GGG was being as transparent as possible. This is not a panic coverage of a secret. It's simply normal humans coming to terms with the reality of the situation and admitting they didn't make their goals.
Nothing sinister or crazy. Just good old fashioned miscalculation.
Goodbye, PoE1. You were a good friend.
THE BEST FRIEND EVER
GGG trying to do too much with too little staff but at the same time small close knit teams make some of the best things when it comes to art and software development. a double edged sword. and I really do not see a solution for them that keeps both games at top quality
I am very excited for Last Epoch'S next update.
Me too but that is in April 😢
i love the crafting in that game and LP, lots of potential
Last Epich dev are clowns, one season in year, lol
@@bukakabarabaka They tried doing more frequent seasons but they recognized that the smaller updates weren't enough to keep people playing for long, better to have 1 season with new league mechanic and content changes/additions like POE1 than to have multiple seasons that only add a single mechanic or system
@@bukakabarabaka GGG spoiled us with their unprecedented release schedule for new content.
Normally 99% with you Raxx. But "transparency" is a BAD TAKE. No. GGG had said PoE2 would NOT impact PoE1. GGG pulled these resources NOT TODAY, BUT MONTHS back. They COULD have been transparent and said this MONTHS ago. There is no one on PoE1 right now.
They did say just before PoE 2 launched that they had to pull the PoE 1 team in to help with the final stretch of development. They should definitely have been clearer about where 3.26 was, though - if they had said up-front it wouldn't have felt like a huge problem. I'm not sure why they didn't make the decision then to just hold PoE 1 leagues for a while through launch, but I suppose (as they say) it was just a case of overconfidence.
They announced PoE2 as an update, and changed their mind almost immediately as far as they've said, but didn't tell us for 2 years. Then they do this with PoE 3.26. They aren't being transparent. They're lying about big shit and then waiting as long as they can to reveal the truth to limit damage.
You're pathetic and not smart. This was the obvious move for them to make.
It sucks too because poe 2 is really really bad, like it’s not a good game at all. No one wants to admit it but it’s no better than d4. Most of us poe 1 players that never stopped playing it feels it the worst like myself. I stopped playing settlers league like 3 months ago, and now I’m stuck where I’m back to playing Diablo 2. This is just crazy. Tbh…I kind of figured this was going to happen. GGG wants so badly for poe 2 to be better than poe 1 but it never will be and I think they’re going to realize that once 3.26 finally launches. I see it everyday, multiple people coming to try poe 1 after playing poe 2 and even they admit how much better poe 1 is. This is really shit news for the community as a whole. For all those enjoying poe 2, I envy you, because you guys will be receiving the treatment from all of us who have invested into poe 1 for all those years. Enjoy it!
Yea you are on crack
I'm kinda fucking tired of Poe2 tbh.
I've been worried about POE 1for a while. And seeing the numbers POE2 got, was even more clear where they would prioritize their resources. Which felt bad as someone who bounced off POE2 pretty hard. But the lack of communication about POE1 is what bothers me. This isn't really transparency; they knew this for months and dodged the question when asked before.
The amount of people defending a corporation screwing over their customers and lying to them for months is making me go insane. WHAT TRANSPARENCY
Its not transparency when he knew since December that they had not started working on 3.26 and waited until nearly the very last day of Jan to announce it
People need to stop fucking praising them when its a clear rug pull and them lying to their players
A lot of those same clowns with GGG is a small indie company and that their leaders don't answer to tencent. Yeah the same mega corporation that owns GGG.
Ben is spot on about PoE2. It suffers from far too many bad design decisions. GGG is likely too entrenched to backtrack.
PoE1 is the best game ever made, imho, and it sucks to see it left to rot on the vine while GGG spend all resources on a far inferior game, Ruthless 2.0, eg PoE2.
Tencent will probably appoint an adult to better manage their investment in GGG, and game quality will likely suffer.
Would be nice to see GGG turn things around, but I very much doubt it. I hate to say it, but mapping is more fun in D4 than PoE2...
"spot on?" he said it was DOOMED, the most hilarious hyperbole i've ever seen in my life, and i've been playing video games since the early 90s. People aren't remembering what the point of early access is. I've been in EA's where they fundamentally changed the game's core mechanics completely before release, in fact as we speak that's happening in PoP The Rogue on a monthly basis. Games can go from unplayable trash to an awesome product based on the community EA feedback, that's literally what this period of time is for
@@ELPsteel Well they'd better do that, bc the core game mechanics are kind of awful as things stand now. Maybe the game could be good if they just undo every design choice they've made for the last 5 years
@@GrindinRyan again this is massive hyperbole. “Every design choice?” Come on man, the game has been in EA for two months and is already better than D4 is after an expansion. They also just postponed PoE1 season because they’re pulling staff onto PoE2 to expedite the stuff we’re talking about. Let them cook
@@GrindinRyan CORE game mechanics are same as PoE1, the fuck are you on about? hahahha
@@HellYeahBabyLol Look I know POE1 is a hard game and a lot of people couldn't really get into it, didn't want to put in the effort to learn it etc. But maybe do some research before you talk about how much the games are the same next time
I definitely think GGG don't want poe2 players going back to poe1 which everyone loves and leave the new game behind. That's why they specially mention not introducing league until after poe2 official release comes out.
if u chase two rabbits , u will lose em both . i wish it aint happen but u know how it goes . i wish the best for GGG
Over the last week i've been checking the poe website everyday for a new league, poe2 isn't giving me what poe1 does I'm glad people loves poe2 but man it's been 6 months since i had anything to eat
Pulled abunch of poe1 resources and still couldn’t deliver a quality game after ten years of “experience”. GGG is taking PoE1/2 the way of anthem.
Situation is that bad; pulling poe1 team out for help to solve poe2 issues and riching its updates. While doing that, they are eating their own words. its EA game already would be more understandable if update comes late, would be more meaningful if u update PoE1
Sounds like PoE1 will be getting the D3 treatment soon.
It was always extremely unrealistic for them to run both games. Realistically their original vision was much more manageable and considering how similar the games are was the best choice.
(That choice being POE 2 being an additional campaign on top of Poe 1 and then the endgame merges.)
no it wasnt ... poE1 earns a bank so it can have its own staff while most of the company works on the new project while leaving the PoE1 staff alone ... what happens is incompetent leadership forced PoE1 staff to work on PoE2 ...
It wasn't unrealistic at all. How long do you think the massive majority of their employees have been working on PoE2? It's been years. Literally a tiny fraction of their employees were keeping PoE1 going for the last handful of leagues and those employees literally made the best league PoE1 ever had and broke their peak concurrent player numbers with the last league. The issue is Chris for whatever reason decided to rush the game out for a 2024 deadline instead of letting it cook in the oven as long as it needed to which is what ended up cannibalizing the few who remained on PoE1. That's the decision that made this shitty situation occur.
Thats it! Im reinstalling d4 now ! GGG has let me down for the last time !
They could have just reset settlers and that would have been better than saying we will give you nothing
Do you guys think if they just recycle old league(s) for POE1, would it be better than no new league?
Honestly I think you hit the nail on the head with this one. It is sad that PoE1 league is delayed and we are all gutted about it. However I think people forget that GGG has pumped out amazing content for free for the last 10 years. We can give them a break and the time they need for all the quality gaming they have brought to us.
If 3.26 happens, I truely believe it will be the last major cycle.
Phox Private league is where it's at guys. Last 40 days has 7K people signed up as of right now starts tomorrow. Come build your settlers town for the third time with a new build and a new group of friends, or maybe if you're a Poe 2 newbie you can take your new skills and bring them to the OG game and see how you do.l😊😊😊
there is no way in hell they can turn around a league in 3 months on dev time, even if they do a microscopic league a la D4. so I think we won't see it before june AT LEAST.
Im just sad that they tread PoE1 and its community this way. As they said they want to have 2 best game in the genre, PoE1 is 1st, PoE 2 is like 4th right now so they need to work on it. Sad that they didnt even restart season with something simply like legacy league. We dont need much as PoE1 players we just want something... We just wanted for them to show us they still care about their roots
poe1 and 2 are two different games but poe2 is the future. Poe1 would have to implement wasd movement to be in the same weight group as poe2.
PoE2 is definitely the superior game out of the 2 for more people right now. Their statistics show this fact as well because they have just openly admitted that they are focusing on 2 and a company would not do that if the two had the same amount of players. GGG is getting bigger and they focus on the game that makes more money atm. Roots are a good thing and I know the feeling when you are left behind because you prefer an earlier version of the game but a company obviously will have to focus on the game that raises more capital.. I'm sure once they brought out a huge patch and released poe2 properly, they will go back to catch up on poe1.
@@davidfilep1106 poe2 lack a lot of things that are not easy to implement to be fun in a long term. I know that in 2 years (mb) the game will be in a better place and we have to let them cook thats why i was hoping for PoE1 to relaunch old league (that didnt go into core) like syntesis or crucible or do somthing fun like legacy league where u can drop legacy version of uniques and made it void league - those would be easy to implement wont take long time to prepare (they dont have to do meta shifts or balance anything - just reset economy and give us something small). Its just sad to watch that they are slowly killing the best hack and slash game to build new one which is not even close to be as goog right now (and i dont mean that PoE2 lacks content, it lack depth into mechanics, endgmae need to be reworked from scrach coz current one isnt fun to be run over and over endlessly, passive tree is one dimensional (straight forward), atlas tree is just dissapoiting, combat after campaign is just 1 button playstyle - and its not in PoE1, crafting doesnt exist if u dont run rituals 12h/day for weeks, most of skills are unusable, etc). We love poe coz of its deepth, complicity, build variety (even if they dont add new gems or uniques ppl are still finding new strong build combinations) and for letting players do what they enjoy in endgame thats what makes poe poe. PoE2 is just beautifull looking game with smooth animations and godly WSAD movement but its lack of PoE. They known that they wont make the poe1 league in December and instead of lying to us they should communicate it earlier not w8 for the last day to say that they did nothning and they didnt care at all about ppl who made them who thy are right now.
i dont have faith in devs anymore, lost that about a decade ago. this wasnt transparent, its damage control because everything they promised is being shown to be a lie. poe 1 is the better game, poe 2 is just a place for new arpg players to start because its alot easier to understand. ggg risking there cash cow for an EA game is a terrible business move
The writing has been on the wall for some time, we just didn’t talk about it. We had a good run boys.
Massive POE1 fan, and enjoying POE2.... big fan of GGG ... but this time, I don't think "transparency" is the best summation ... transparency would have been being clear in november that they had basically gone into fire-fighting mode for POE 2 and that POE1 was on hold for the foreseeable future.
Not going anywhere, still looking forward to when we get updates, but I would say this is at best very DELAYED TRANSPARENCY
diablo 3 is calling my name tomorrow
choose 1:
- 600hours in 2 months
- "played a healthy amount of both games"....
and he prob made like 40k/mo for the 2 months, or $133/hr
what he didn't say
- played both games a healthy amount in those 2 months
I had to do the calculation as soon as i heard it. For perspective, 1300 hours have passed since POE2 released. But hey, if @Aschnack is right and he's made thousands in that time, can't knock it.
@ im basing it off ds lily who said she made 40k/mo when poe2 launched
Seems less like ‘transparency’ and more like “we’ve majorly screwed up the project management again on both our games - and instead of saying anything earlier - we’ve waited until the very last minute to let anyone know”
Downvoted due to the tone of schilling to stay in the good graces of the devs. They straight up lied to the player base multiple times. They literally robbed Peter to pay Paul and rug pulled the entire community on an unfinished game that’s more likely to fail than succeed at this point.
They still have acts to create, classes and ascendancies to create and they need to totally overhaul end game. And they just admitted they can’t successfully work on both games at the same time. Poe 1 is dead, and due to that Poe 2 will die as players will start to boycott out of spite. I can’t see them coming back from this. This is the end of the studio as we know it.
This is looking like a bit of a disaster. I'm struggling to see what their vision even is for the game at this point. They could have made a good single player action RPG and just made the finished campaign and story. But they short-changed that to give us an unbalanced, unrewarding and punishing endgame where the gameplay loop is either sit on the trade site trying to get people to message back about items you want to buy, or transmute millions of white items hoping to one day make something usable
What a cry baby, loool...
How about to be appreciated that they keep the original game alive instead of closing it? And it’s obvious that PoE 2 on such an epic success that they have more people then ever before, and it’s definitely not solely original PoE community achievement. Have patience or just move on, this is a business and it dictates changing of priorities.
@@GrindinRyan Ur talking about PoE2? Cause u know, that game didnt came out yet. Huh?
@@adamzeller7979 no crying just typing, are you 12?
I would have so much happier if we got a poe 1 league and waited longer for the next phase of poe 2 beta even 6 months later. I’m probably not coming back for the poe 2 patch unless it’s huge anyway
I appreciate the transparency from G3. Dev time takes work -> Let em cook. We eat when the food is ready, unless you like eating stuff raw.
There are too many haters who just hate on anything and everything, even the things they like because they are severely addicted and/or traumatized and have not learned how to process in healthy ways. They want everything now! Now! NOW!
Transparency? lmfao how about putting on the 3.26 timeline that we would get an announcenent in late January. Behind the scenes they pulled all resources off poe 1 for months and then let the community know that they havent even started development. That is the opposite of Transparency. Transparency would have been letting the community know when they made that decision that all development on poe 1 is not going happen for months.
They literally explained multiple time already they pulled PoE 1 dev to work on endgame when they stopped working on Act4 to 6 to give more endgame for the launch. It's not GGG's fault if you have the memory of a goldfish and can't remember something they said multiple time already...
@@lhenn4721they said 3.26 was coming in Feb 😂
@lhenn4721 that is some professional gaslighting. Well done.
Transparency? How about the last seven months being silent in order to not nerf their supporter pack sales?
It would be transparent few days before EA release when they knew already, now it is releasing a statement because they have to.
typical damage control
it would be transparent at the launch of kalgur it would be damage control at ea release now its just look at us (pretending that we) communicating at whats going on
Bad time for argp? Dude grim dawn will get a new expansion this year. Now THAT is actually one of the best if not the best arpg ever. No forced online bullshit, tons of build possibilities, incredible amount of content and super fun
Think he meant it a bad time for argp glazing streamers that have been licking the boot of POE2 for clicks. Now they'll have to eat crow and go back to something like D4 for engagement.
@@steven11101010 d4 with 5k viewers max in twitch 1 week into the season? ahahahhahahaha
PoE clears and I love Grim Dawn
GGG fucked up so badly that im planning on playing D3 tomorrow
Come to Torchlight Infinite. New season, new heroes to try and you can blast there super fast around
heck yeah man i’m ready to blast d3 instead of
They need to have an actual project manager at the helm. These guys are terrible at scope management.
Of all the exile-like game updates coming, Last Epochs update is the one I'm looking forward to most.
GGG is full of shit. If this was blizzard this guy would be dogging them out, like most of these so called content creators.
POE2 made me an ARPG fan, it was super fun until reaching the endgame. This made me try out POE1, learning the ropes in Settlers of Kalguur, getting ready for the new league. Very disappointed that there is no new league, I would be happy with a legacy league just for an economy reset so I can experience it, since Settlers is kinda dead.
how far did you get into poe1?
@ POE1 I am on early red maps, I was farming essences but they didn’t sell too well I imagine the demand for them is low, especially the transformed essences haven’t sold any unfortunately.
@@shrmp02 maybe farming and crafting with rog! Have you gotten your screaming and incandescent invitation yet? I really like those fights! Are you playing necro settlers or normal settlers?
Unfortunately most trade leagues are dead at that time. I'm an SSF uber killer. I recommend you learn expedition, harvest, heist and sanctum. This will give you currency, crafting resources and raw divines for meta crafts
I think LE will do fine going up against regular leagues/seasons. It was just unfortunate that there was a D4 expansion AND the sequel to the beloved POE within a couple of months. Seeing how POE2 didn't drop below 200k concurrent on steam until like last week, I think they are completely justified in that decision!
POE 1, dead game walking as was the plan from the start.
The moment you stop asking questions is the moment you turn into a blind zealot.
Transparency my ass, they should have said it 2 months ago.
GGG had great communication throughout the years, so why stop that? Excuses needs to be made to justify that.
the way things are going, 1 poe1 league per year and poe2 launches in 2027
"Hold Me" had me fall off my bed.
It's actually wild the hype for this game got me, biggest regret purchase of 2024, even more so now that they've outright lied about keeping boths game and neither interrupting the development of the other
PoE1 was and still is lightning in a bottle and they're sidelining it, that's crazy
Really looking forward to Last Epoch's update. The game still needs a lot(it's maybe halfway there) I think they are making good decisions almost every step of the way. Lots of fun builds, skill trees are great, crafting is good, now just build up all the systems around them.
Adam Jackson n his horrendous kiss/kill take on Sorc is NOT missed by me. Good riddance. He had some odd fetish with punishing Sorc players who wanted power but he sure as hell had no issues with other classes 😂. Bye Felicia!
Hot take, but after 100+ hours in poe2 I actually don't think is as good as people have been saying it is. It IS a great starting point, but honestly I think its kinda weak compared to fleshed out poe1 and LE updates. poe1 was always going to be completly back seated even though I personally feel poe2 will never be better than it. Guess we'll find out :)
I also do understand its still 'early access' but kmon bois we all know what that means so it cant be used as an excuse ;)
Are you saying that LE has a good endgame? because it doesn't. It's just as bad as D4. PoE2 endgame (while it's pretty terrible atm) is still much better than D4 and LE.
LE updates? Do you know what LE's last "massive" update was?
Loot goblins, a reskin of Experimental mages, and new shrines.
@ you can be mad as much as you like bro was just putting some food for thought out :)
@ great argument lmao.
How are they transparent , all I heard was blatant lies , like lets be real any company that would seek that sweet cash would not work on PoE 1 at this current stage, they might seem regretful but I bet my left nut if they could go back in time they would do the same shit, so no this is not being transparent this is being deceitful
this channel became GGG shill echochamber months ago .
exactly other way around, PoE1 was established moneymaker ... minimal expense for huge influx of cash every 3-4 months ...
I mean, they could literally let the PoE1 devs work on PoE1 instead of PoE2 0.2 so they do not have to turn back time or anything. But they keep them and primise to let them go back to PoE1 after. At what point people stop believeing them?
Imagine praising GGG for their "transparency" here
I'm in the same boat as you Raxx, I'm personally fine with a bit of a lul in arpg content but GGG should not have taken all development resources away from poe1.
3:10 This shouldn't be an issue. When they can put the devs back to Poe1 they need to build the league first. So April is probably when they start development, I don't expect a release before June. Especially when they want to get out some more Poe2 patches in between.
This will definitely be effecting both games because now when they go work on that there not going to be working on poe2 for how long
The biggest issue is even expanding both teams would not fix the problem. The biggest issue they said was they had to take highly experience devs from PoE1 to help with PoE2. Its clear as day that PoE2's dev team lacks experience compared to the 10 or so devs that have been hardcarrying PoE1 on their backs for the past couple of years.
GGG: Once the fires are out, we'll go back to PoE1. This is like the first time dictator who says, once I have things settled, I'll give up my dictator powers. That day never comes.
lol if the last epoch patch comes out in April and between that and PoE I will be Last epoch allllll the wayyyyyyyy!!!! Game is epic and is only held back by lack of updates. BRING IT ON.
they have not been transparent, it's like all the CC's are reading a script
Not finish league in POE1 but to start working on it. From what I understand
Not so much of a bad news for Rax, he was never a PoE1 player.
I miss your content, wish there was more on any game really.
"Transparency"
There is no question that POE1 is a light years better game then POE2
They are trying to funnel people to POE 2 because lots of people went back to POE purely for the speed of gameplay and crafting.
I would like to commend GGG for their transparency on the video they just put out apologizing for not being transparent enough and letting the community believe something based off gossip and rumor.
This is just another STUPID AND FOOLISH decision that GGG have made of late - I do not, nor will I ever likely know what has changed behind the scenes at GGG, but whatever it is - As disasterous as PoE 2 was the last time I tried it (mid-jan for the record), further delaying a PoE 1 season becuse "reasons" is gaming suicide. YOU DO NOT DELAY the money-maker, while developing something experimental!
Original exec/ownership cashed out already. Tencent owns it now. It's a pump and dump situation. They'll ride the wave/hype as much as possible around POE2. Which as it is turning out, won't be that long.