Not sure what people are hearing here, honestly. I've always found AT (up until now) to sound great, but also with a lot of added artificial high end I never asked for. Many people have pointed this out in comparisons in the past between AT4 and other amp sims. But AT5 is a COMPLETELY different ballgame. I don't know what kind of sorcery they did but these amps both sound and FEEL like the real thing. And all that artificial baked in high end is gone too which is great. As far as my ears can tell, these are real amps. especially when you throw in a little bit of room ambience too. pair this up with a good FRFR Cab, a footswitch midi controller, and I really don't think you'll need to buy a new amp anytime soon. IK are really meticulous about their craft. They didn't just update the amps, they updated the pedals, the cabs, the speakers, mics, EVERYTHING. Name me one amp sim developer that has gone to such lengths as IK has. Native Instruments didn't even bother updating their amps, they just added some new effects and kept everything else the same save for the look of the UI and 3 new amps that are good, but get ruined once you add pedals relying on decades old modeling tech.
I guess Im asking the wrong place but does anybody know a method to log back into an Instagram account..? I was dumb lost the account password. I would love any help you can give me.
@Gibson Colton i really appreciate your reply. I found the site on google and Im waiting for the hacking stuff atm. Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
Did you ever have trouble with crunchy tones? Like, just breaking up a little bit. A lot of them time, if I hit a chord or a note, I can hear the breakup - that little bit of distortion, but it stops abruptly in a really unnatural way. Not sure if that makes any sense... And I've still gotten some nice crunchy tones. But that's never sounded quite right to me for most of the amps, when they're just breaking up. As for the artificial high end - The British Tube lead 1 at 7:53 in amplitube 4 - that's one of the main offenders imo. Is that the kind of thing you're talking about? It doesn't sound terrible in this video, but for me it tends to sound much worse lol. Anyway.... might be time for me upgrade finally.
To me as a long time amplitube user this is a win win, 4 and 5 sound different but neither is better . Its subjective they perhaps excel in specific areas but rather just sound like two different setups or amps. This is great I think the modeling technology has come so far as to where it all sounds real . Thanks for the video. cheers
I just think 4 has some compression and processing baked into the tones so sound more produced. 5 sounds more like a recorded amp, you can then add your own compression in the mixing
@@clembuckleyguitar good explanation. I got amplitube 4 max but I think ill sit this one out....I'd rather throw my money towards real amps so every few years they aren't tempting me with another $500 purchase
I've been in the IK amp sim collections since A3. A4 was singularly unimpressive to me, although I did like the Red Pig Marshall tones. But Amplitube 5 is an entirely different beast. All of my previous collections work fine as well as custom patches from earlier versions, except now they need to be tweaked to reflect the quality of the new version. Amplitube Leslie is a lot of fun, being an old hippy. Just got in in IK's group buy, along with some collections for it, and it inspires me to play, which the earlier versions really didn't. I'd recommend it. It's very easy and straightforward to use, sounds and feels wayyy better than earlier versions. Basically, it is the first piece of software for which I feel I could I could happily write a review for.
Thanks, much appreciated. Great comparisons. Slightly annoyed that you're now going to cost me a few hundred for the upgrade lol... But thems the brakes. No, I really appreciated this.
I've been using at4 a lot in the past 5 years and I like it, but I always find myself cutting some low end or around 300hz and adding some mid ranges to get the guitar right in my mix. At5 seems to be more mix ready to me, way less boomy than at4. I'll give it a try !
@@clembuckleyguitar imo it sounds also more realistic. The sound has more depth you can feel the room, and the small fuzz that we have on most amp Sims is literally inaudible to me
I like my A4 and the messed up part is that I cannot buy additional amps or pedals, it forced me to upgrade my Shop to 5 and A5 Shop does not allow you to buy anything for the A4 format! REALLY FKED UP! Then they ask 99 to crossgrade to A5? Nah! Amplitube really disappointed me with this because I also use Sample Tank/Syntronic and bought lots of their plug ins so now I'm not sure if I want to continue with these upgrades! Its really fkd up! I bought tons of Track plugs ins and use them on my Logic Pro X chain to configure my amp sounds. The review given here made A5 sound brittle, A4 sounded fuller. Its typical software upgrade, like Apple! I bought tons of their old programs and now you cannot even use them unless you upgade to a latest version! Forcing me to not be able to buy plug ins unless I have the A5 version is what pisses me off the most and at 99 bucks for the full version? Its like you depend on their gear and suddenly its the upgrade/crossgrade money game to stick it to you. Good ol Capitalism huh?
I found the same thing. IK is always trying to pry more $$$$ out of you. I also hate the fact that they show you amps and pedals that you don't own grayed out. It always feels like a high pressure sales tactic. Great simulations, horrible business model.
I have amp 3,4 and 5. Gtr rig 5.6. but I think the orange OR120 room aside preset sounds amazing in headphones. . Use that on everything. As I can't afford an original OR 120 HAHA
I would say I do prefer 5, it sounds more like an amp would mic'ed up with no processing on it so I think a true reflection on the amps. You can easily beef up the sound with compression and other plugins Again just like they would in a studio
@@clembuckleyguitar You're right. I compared the sound of the Mesa Mark IV amplifier. I have to admit that the version in AMP5 actually sounds much better. Very realistic. The most important thing is the positioning of the microphones. It's nice that I have all the things I had in the previous version (AMP4 max). Great plugin!
I'm really thinking about upgrading but then and I listened to this and other videos over and over. In AT4 I always do a pre EQ after my volume pedal and a post EQ in the rack section. I always get my sound how I want it to be and it sits perfectly in the mix.. It takes a while to dail it in perfectly for my guitars with several different pick-up combinations but once you know it ,it's a piece of cake. Oke the GUI on the AT5 is better, their own amps sounded more natural to me straight out of the box. Is it worth 300 euros for upgrading....? I'm not sure yet...
It might be a little bit cheaper at the moment - I'm not sure exactly how it works, tbh. But I just checked in and it was 200 Euro. It's still not nuthin though lol I'm not sure. Just about everything At5 sounded better to me in this video; more realistic and present. Some of the AT4 tones were maybe "nicer" - creamier or whatever, but less realistic or something. Or maybe it's just because I'm so familiar with them at this point that any change sounds better.
It does in the sense that's its more processed so it's fuller sounding. 5 is more natural sounding, more true to what an amp sounds like before adding eq and compression. So I think 5 is better as you can eq and compress to taste. 4 is harder to mix in with a full band recording. You're trying to remove some of that processed sound. Also when playing through them 5 is way more natural feeling too. Obviously that can't be portrayed in a video. At the end of the day, both sound great 😊
Yeah pretty much, just you're starting off from a better place in 5, 4 has some compression and processing baked into the tones so sound more produced, for my ear anyway. At least with 5 you have a better starting point to dial in the tone better. 5 feels better to play too, more like having an amp in the room
Help someone! So I have amplitube 4 max. Ive downloaded the free version of 5 so presumably it's unlocked all my previously purchased gear and now I have the new versions of them. Have I understood this correctly? If so, is there any point in buying amplitube 5 other than a few more bits of gear and VER cab thing or whatever it's called?
That's what the preset players always say. But in reality, it's lazyness to look deep into a tool and make it sound good. Not the fault of the tool, it's a user error.
I can see how you would say that. I think that 4 sound more like a recorded amp, compression added and a mixed. 5 seems to be more 'raw' so I feel it will be easier to mix in with a full track. I might put up another video, adding a compresser to the end of the sinal chain. That will get to that final mix sound you'd hear on a track. So you're totally right 4 sound more like a final track would, but 5 to me sounds more like an amp would mic'ed up with no processing. So more true to life. Also it's imposibe to get across in a video, it feels more amp like, better dynamics and feel that 4. I've been using 4 for years and love it. Have it on loads of tracks, I won't be going back and replacing the tracks with 5. 4 sounds great on them.
@@clembuckleyguitar i play with positive grid bias fx2 and amp all i hear from youtube is ampli 4 sounds more natural but might be how i prefer a guitar sound to my head
@@clembuckleyguitar i tried JCM800 on amplitube 5 and it sounds with more dynamic and better pick response than amplitube 4, and it makes me feel better when im playing the guitar.
@@mesfigas might just be the new impulse/cab system on 5. I'd like to know the difference between 4 and 5 on the amps alone (through a 3rd party IR loader)
To me A5 sounded bit more open and detailed. You did an excellent job.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video
Not sure what people are hearing here, honestly. I've always found AT (up until now) to sound great, but also with a lot of added artificial high end I never asked for. Many people have pointed this out in comparisons in the past between AT4 and other amp sims. But AT5 is a COMPLETELY different ballgame. I don't know what kind of sorcery they did but these amps both sound and FEEL like the real thing. And all that artificial baked in high end is gone too which is great. As far as my ears can tell, these are real amps. especially when you throw in a little bit of room ambience too. pair this up with a good FRFR Cab, a footswitch midi controller, and I really don't think you'll need to buy a new amp anytime soon. IK are really meticulous about their craft. They didn't just update the amps, they updated the pedals, the cabs, the speakers, mics, EVERYTHING. Name me one amp sim developer that has gone to such lengths as IK has. Native Instruments didn't even bother updating their amps, they just added some new effects and kept everything else the same save for the look of the UI and 3 new amps that are good, but get ruined once you add pedals relying on decades old modeling tech.
I guess Im asking the wrong place but does anybody know a method to log back into an Instagram account..?
I was dumb lost the account password. I would love any help you can give me.
@Gibson Colton i really appreciate your reply. I found the site on google and Im waiting for the hacking stuff atm.
Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Gibson Colton it worked and I finally got access to my account again. I am so happy!
Thank you so much you saved my ass :D
@Mitchell Bennett glad I could help =)
Did you ever have trouble with crunchy tones? Like, just breaking up a little bit. A lot of them time, if I hit a chord or a note, I can hear the breakup - that little bit of distortion, but it stops abruptly in a really unnatural way.
Not sure if that makes any sense... And I've still gotten some nice crunchy tones. But that's never sounded quite right to me for most of the amps, when they're just breaking up.
As for the artificial high end - The British Tube lead 1 at 7:53 in amplitube 4 - that's one of the main offenders imo. Is that the kind of thing you're talking about? It doesn't sound terrible in this video, but for me it tends to sound much worse lol.
Anyway.... might be time for me upgrade finally.
Great video. The spring reverb sounds horrible on both. First thing I always turn down.
Hahahahahahaha me too.
To me as a long time amplitube user this is a win win, 4 and 5 sound different but neither is better . Its subjective they perhaps excel in specific areas but rather just sound like two different setups or amps. This is great I think the modeling technology has come so far as to where it all sounds real . Thanks for the video. cheers
4 sounds warmer, more organic and natural. 5 sounds like it has too much mid range. Perhaps it’s just how he has his signal chain setup?
I just think 4 has some compression and processing baked into the tones so sound more produced. 5 sounds more like a recorded amp, you can then add your own compression in the mixing
@@clembuckleyguitar good explanation.
I got amplitube 4 max but I think ill sit this one out....I'd rather throw my money towards real amps so every few years they aren't tempting me with another $500 purchase
It depends on each amp! In general, AT 5 is more for detailed tones...
It seems like they fixed this problem with the midrange, when You struggle to find some around 1-2К. Especially on blackface Fenders. Thanks, Clem!
I hear better mids and more definition in the Amplitbe 5, more scooped sound in 4. Thanks for the comparision, greetings from Argentina.
I've been in the IK amp sim collections since A3. A4 was singularly unimpressive to me, although I did like the Red Pig Marshall tones. But Amplitube 5 is an entirely different beast. All of my previous collections work fine as well as custom patches from earlier versions, except now they need to be tweaked to reflect the quality of the new version. Amplitube Leslie is a lot of fun, being an old hippy. Just got in in IK's group buy, along with some collections for it, and it inspires me to play, which the earlier versions really didn't. I'd recommend it. It's very easy and straightforward to use, sounds and feels wayyy better than earlier versions. Basically, it is the first piece of software for which I feel I could I could happily write a review for.
A5 sounds less 'noisy' . You utilized a very solid comparison methodology here. greatly appreciated
Thanks, much appreciated. Great comparisons. Slightly annoyed that you're now going to cost me a few hundred for the upgrade lol... But thems the brakes. No, I really appreciated this.
Haha, it's never ending isn't it 😁
@@clembuckleyguitar Oh, you said it. Unfortunately a hobby that's never going pay for itself in my case haha! But still worth it.
Thanks again.
I upgraded from 4 to 5. A5 sounds the best. The VIR is a game changer and for me i don't need to buy a 3rd party IR 😍😍😍😍
buena comparacion ...pero no noto mejoras sustanciales entre uno y el otro...la grafica es sin dudas mas lograda en el 4 gracias
I've been using at4 a lot in the past 5 years and I like it, but I always find myself cutting some low end or around 300hz and adding some mid ranges to get the guitar right in my mix. At5 seems to be more mix ready to me, way less boomy than at4. I'll give it a try !
Yeah totally agree with you. 5 is much easier to get it to sit in a mix
@@clembuckleyguitar imo it sounds also more realistic. The sound has more depth you can feel the room, and the small fuzz that we have on most amp Sims is literally inaudible to me
Good comparison. Thank you!
I like my A4 and the messed up part is that I cannot buy additional amps or pedals, it forced me to upgrade my Shop to 5 and A5 Shop does not allow you to buy anything for the A4 format! REALLY FKED UP! Then they ask 99 to crossgrade to A5? Nah! Amplitube really disappointed me with this because I also use Sample Tank/Syntronic and bought lots of their plug ins so now I'm not sure if I want to continue with these upgrades! Its really fkd up! I bought tons of Track plugs ins and use them on my Logic Pro X chain to configure my amp sounds. The review given here made A5 sound brittle, A4 sounded fuller. Its typical software upgrade, like Apple! I bought tons of their old programs and now you cannot even use them unless you upgade to a latest version! Forcing me to not be able to buy plug ins unless I have the A5 version is what pisses me off the most and at 99 bucks for the full version? Its like you depend on their gear and suddenly its the upgrade/crossgrade money game to stick it to you. Good ol Capitalism huh?
I found the same thing. IK is always trying to pry more $$$$ out of you. I also hate the fact that they show you amps and pedals that you don't own grayed out. It always feels like a high pressure sales tactic. Great simulations, horrible business model.
5 seems like a more accurate representation of the components being called up, warts and all.
Yeah it feels more natural when playing
I have amp 3,4 and 5. Gtr rig 5.6. but I think the orange OR120 room aside preset sounds amazing in headphones. . Use that on everything. As I can't afford an original OR 120 HAHA
they are very different from each other...I can't say which sounds better yet
I would say I do prefer 5, it sounds more like an amp would mic'ed up with no processing on it so I think a true reflection on the amps. You can easily beef up the sound with compression and other plugins
Again just like they would in a studio
@@clembuckleyguitar You're right. I compared the sound of the Mesa Mark IV amplifier. I have to admit that the version in AMP5 actually sounds much better. Very realistic. The most important thing is the positioning of the microphones. It's nice that I have all the things I had in the previous version (AMP4 max). Great plugin!
@@krzysztoflis2048 that is the messa Boogie amp, I think that is what David Gilmour used on The Wall.
I'm really thinking about upgrading but then and I listened to this and other videos over and over. In AT4 I always do a pre EQ after my volume pedal and a post EQ in the rack section. I always get my sound how I want it to be and it sits perfectly in the mix.. It takes a while to dail it in perfectly for my guitars with several different pick-up combinations but once you know it ,it's a piece of cake. Oke the GUI on the AT5 is better, their own amps sounded more natural to me straight out of the box. Is it worth 300 euros for upgrading....? I'm not sure yet...
It might be a little bit cheaper at the moment - I'm not sure exactly how it works, tbh. But I just checked in and it was 200 Euro. It's still not nuthin though lol I'm not sure.
Just about everything At5 sounded better to me in this video; more realistic and present. Some of the AT4 tones were maybe "nicer" - creamier or whatever, but less realistic or something. Or maybe it's just because I'm so familiar with them at this point that any change sounds better.
Amplitube 4 is so much warmer, while 5 is much thinner and brighter.
I think A5 always puts a di box at the start that you cannot remove. Would this effect the sound too?
did not like,
the Amplitube 4 simulations are better light years
In my opinion 4 sounds significantly better then 5. But everyone has there own opinion. 4 just sounded much better to me
It does in the sense that's its more processed so it's fuller sounding.
5 is more natural sounding, more true to what an amp sounds like before adding eq and compression.
So I think 5 is better as you can eq and compress to taste.
4 is harder to mix in with a full band recording. You're trying to remove some of that processed sound.
Also when playing through them 5 is way more natural feeling too.
Obviously that can't be portrayed in a video.
At the end of the day, both sound great 😊
Buen video man
Amplitube 4👍
There's quite a difference right there but...isn't it matchable just using a comp and EQ?🤷🏻♂️
Yeah pretty much, just you're starting off from a better place in 5, 4 has some compression and processing baked into the tones so sound more produced, for my ear anyway. At least with 5 you have a better starting point to dial in the tone better. 5 feels better to play too, more like having an amp in the room
So, you don't lose Amplitube 4 when you download Amplitube 5. Is that right?...Thanks
Yeah, you can use both,
Help someone! So I have amplitube 4 max. Ive downloaded the free version of 5 so presumably it's unlocked all my previously purchased gear and now I have the new versions of them. Have I understood this correctly? If so, is there any point in buying amplitube 5 other than a few more bits of gear and VER cab thing or whatever it's called?
On their website it says the SE version or higher must be bought to upgrade previous versions. The free version unlocks but doesn't upgrade.
Tengo los 2
Igual que con guitar rig 5 y 6
amplitube4 cab sim is terrible.I hope it's fixed in version 5.
That's what the preset players always say. But in reality, it's lazyness to look deep into a tool and make it sound good. Not the fault of the tool, it's a user error.
Cab sim is much better in 5
4 sounds better
I can see how you would say that.
I think that 4 sound more like a recorded amp, compression added and a mixed.
5 seems to be more 'raw' so I feel it will be easier to mix in with a full track.
I might put up another video, adding a compresser to the end of the sinal chain. That will get to that final mix sound you'd hear on a track.
So you're totally right 4 sound more like a final track would, but 5 to me sounds more like an amp would mic'ed up with no processing. So more true to life. Also it's imposibe to get across in a video, it feels more amp like, better dynamics and feel that 4.
I've been using 4 for years and love it. Have it on loads of tracks, I won't be going back and replacing the tracks with 5. 4 sounds great on them.
@@clembuckleyguitar i play with positive grid bias fx2 and amp
all i hear from youtube is ampli 4 sounds more natural but might be how i prefer a guitar sound to my head
@@mesfigas Sure isn't that the beauty of it. A flavour for all of us :) I must try out Grid Bias fx2 too,
@@clembuckleyguitar i tried JCM800 on amplitube 5 and it sounds with more dynamic and better pick response than amplitube 4, and it makes me feel better when im playing the guitar.
@@mesfigas might just be the new impulse/cab system on 5. I'd like to know the difference between 4 and 5 on the amps alone (through a 3rd party IR loader)