I've been using omada for about 2 years now. Its not perfect but it's a great set up especially for the price point ! Router, managed switch and POE APs all configured and managed with the OC200 controller. Great video.
Awesome video! I just deployed my Omada system in my home. Definitely nothing compared to your amazing set up/system. No complaints with it at all. TP Link stuff is solid and reliable.
Dang you're a wild man Nate! That's quite the setup you have. Thanks for the info. It should come in handy next spring when I set up my security system in Idaho.
I used their earlier system for my son's smaller 'family compound'. He was on T-Mo LTE, it was fast enough. He now has gig fiber, so I was researching the next gen of Omada. Guess who came up - the Nater. The only thing we did differently was to use SM fiber and 1G SFPs in Jetstream switches to his three outbuildings. went with the smaller AX3000 APs in the outbuildings since he didn't have anything capable beyond WiFi 6. AX5400 in his office/shop. These are real chonkers at their size. PCs are all wired, full gig. iPhone 15s get at least 800. Seperate VLAN for their cameras and environmental. I was hoping you'd do a walk thru of the Omada setup. The SPX guy has pretty good info on Omada. I have an older Meraki system at a public site that is getting too spendy for what it does. Waiting on the OC-400 controller to be available.
Thanks for the video. I love TP-Link and have it all over our farm with the exception of a UniFi Gigabeam bridge which is great. Dropped Starlink after getting Verizon 5G Home and hoping one of the others is available soon to combine them. Been very happy with our Deco devices.
Great video - super useful. Did you look at Ubiquiti and rule them out? If so, why? I've seen a lot of talk about the Omada being the Ubiquiti killer but also a lot of talk about Omada not being fully mature yet as a platform. I recently used a Unifi Dream router, a Unifi Enterprise 8 port POE switch, and 6 Access points to provide internet to 50+ people for a few months off of a Starlink and it went very smoothly, even through a hurricane in CA and some 115 degree temps. I'm going to sell all the Ubiquiti gear now that the event was over (except the UDR) but the gear worked well. Thanks for the content, beautiful property!
I did look at the Unifi line up and opted for the Omada system for a few reasons. The tp-link better matched my needs for specific AP's, cost was lower and I've good experiences with tp-link in the past.
A little off topic, but which gateway would you choose from t-mobile? The Nokia or the SageMcom? I have the Nokia gateway now but it drops connectivity once or twice a week. I am using it as a gateway only with a dynalink ax router. Thanks in advance.
If i had an open choice I'd pick the G4AR for the easy external antenna ports. ruclips.net/video/hMw-c3GA2tE/видео.html ultimate though a 3rd party gateway is the best ruclips.net/video/tDhxeUm3EqI/видео.html
excellent video just what I'm after. After a few month of research and watch you previous videos as well I'm also thinking to go with similar setup as yours as my property also is quite similar to yours. I just wish you have a video on how to wire the hole system and a bit explain more about how to set it up exactly. Maybe a future video idea ? BTW how is the system going? are you happy with it since you have install it ? Cheers
The system is working great and meeting my expectations. Much better than my previous Asus setup. I didnt have to run any more wires as I had already ran ethernet for the Asus (ruclips.net/video/ifRkJb_ejXY/видео.html). What exactly were you looking to see in a video?
@@NaterTater thanks for your reply. I just want to know where the hardware control is used and how it's wired as well as the router. Also, if you can explain why you need to replace your router with this new one? Was it because you are using 3 ISP? Also after all the hardware is installed, it would be great to see how to set in the management interface and add and introduce the new hardware to the network. I hope my questions are clear.
So my heads spinning trying to figure out whats best for my situation. I have been out of the tec and networking relm for a long time so im definitely relearning alot. Bottom line up front, i have t mobile 5 g home internet. I have a shop 100 yards from the house that when i close the doors i dont pick up wifi or phone signal. My speed requirements need to allow me to stream youtube for tec info while working on stuff, and have my phone connected fir communications. The only thing i can see adding down the line would be security cameras. What is a good bang for the buck and a simple setup?
Hello, How can i extend my T-Mobile home internet? The black square box. I have tried extenders, ap, with no luck. I would greatly appreciate your setup directions. Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Interesting question. Right now its only one LAN but I do plan to split out some VLAN's in the future. I wasn't expecting a problem doing that with the mokerlink switches in the loop but now I'll keep a closer eye!
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Why do u need the controller? Vs just having the usual modem to router setup? I am switching to poe security cameras. I want that wan on all the time but the 2nd wan with my wifi ap i want to turn off at night to reduce the em radiation while sleeping. Do I need the controller to do that?
I have the Cheetah Wi-Fi 6 Industrial LTE 5G NR Wireless Modem Router and I would just like to extend the range of the WiFi inside the house... There are channel changes and other tweaks inside the router, but can't find them in the Guide.
There aren't many settings to improve wifi coverage in the Cheetah (or most wifi routers for that matter). You might want to look at a wifi extender or mesh system ruclips.net/video/BEA61OK6hmc/видео.html
I’m about to invest in the TP-Link Omda system. Just to confirm I can power one outdoor mesh ap through POE from the switch and then just power another outdoor mesh ap at my gate without Ethernet and I should get signal out there?
Correct. The units come with a POE injector so you would need 110v plug at your gate for the POE injector and then an ethernet cable from the injector to the outdoor unit. Or have a power supply/battery setup for the outdoor unit.
Sorry. Not sure that I understood. I’ll have an access point on the side of my house that is powered by POE through the switch. At my gate approximately 300 feet away I have 110 power but unfortunately did not run Ethernet. Will the one at the gate with only 110 power work without the Ethernet cable since the other will be on the house with Ethernet?
@brandonseery2926 it will work without ethernet from the house. The ethernet is the power cable so you will need an ethernet cable still but it will likely be just a few feet long from the POE injector to the outdoor unit.
I'm looking at the documentation for the EAP650-Outdoor access points and the use cases all have an ethernet data connection. It sounds like you have these in the pond house and building 3 operating as wireless repeaters. Do you require any additional hardware in these locations, or do you configure them and then they run with just power from the POE adapter?
@NaterTater how would the EAP650 go as a P2P bridge? I have a similar layout to your block but want to have a NAS etc in one location with the router (separate office) and have the 650s as a bridge to the house
So along the same lines is this question? We have a shed that is like a Faraday cage .. wifi and cell lost upon entry. Even though your buildings no longer needed the indoor router. This Omada device would still support that correct bringing in the signal from the house over the AP and then down thru ethernet to a router for ether or wifi access inside the building via that cable?
Is there a way to set this up without the "Cloud" and TP-Link knowing everything about your network? Seems like a BIG SECURITY hole. I mean if you are connect a POE cable to the EAP650, what in the hell is there to really configure, just freaking work.
Yea, you don't need the cloud for it to work. I use one of their network controllers (OC200 or OC300) and it does everything locally. There is effectively no setup once you have a working system and just plug in an AP. It will provision it and add all the settings.
@@NaterTater That's good to know that it can work without an internet connection. The whole point of the internet was to have some connectivity in a Grid down situation. However all this 'cloud based crapola' out there has all but destroyed that notion. Oh, your security camera won't work because Samsong site is down, or has reached end of life, so sorry, buy our next product. I'm looking at that Wavlink AX3000 outdoor, seems like it can throw the Wifi Signal Much farter (like 2500 feet farther) than what some people were reviewing about these TrendNet outdoor AP were able to provide. With less hardware and rigamarole.
This video covers what I use to extend my tmobile home internet. For 1 acre you would need fewer AP's. Probably 2 AP's for inside and 1 or two AP's for outside.
There are lots of options and you have to weigh the pros and cons of each for you. For me I went with: Indoor AP EAP670: amzn.to/48IsKVy Alternative smaller indoor AP: amzn.to/3ZMsNM3 Outdoor AP EAP650-Outdoor: amzn.to/3LQPGZ8 Mutli-WAN router ER707-M2: amzn.to/3tsI1tk Omada hardware contoller OC300: amzn.to/3F7CATi 8-port 2.5G POE switch: amzn.to/46kpFJO 5-port 2.5G POE switch: amzn.to/48KKP5u 2-port POE splitter: amzn.to/46iXeMp
@WoWiWe-z2p depends on your needs. For me I use this Omada setup which is more small business grade. I tested wavlink for demonstration and for use at a family members place. Wavlink is easier and simpler to use so a smaller setup or less advanced user might enjoy Wavlink more. What's your use case?
Leslie made more than me for many years so yes she is happy with her purchase! It needed lots of love when we bought it so we've spent heavily on it since the purchase but the housing market has stayed strong! You can certainly get more property up this way vs downtown.
look wolverine... a TENNIS court?? in MI?? no no naahh , put curbs around it, fill it with water and play hockey... girls can play too, and or fig skate... tennis... smFh
Thanks for the advice. I didnt build the court nor would I. That'd work for maybe 3 months of the year. The other 9 months it can be for tennis. I'm actually contemplating putting a pole barn over it though.
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TP-link and Mokerlink products I used:
Indoor AP EAP670: amzn.to/48IsKVy
Alternative smaller indoor AP: amzn.to/3ZMsNM3
Outdoor AP EAP650-Outdoor: amzn.to/3LQPGZ8
Mutli-WAN router ER707-M2: amzn.to/3tsI1tk
Omada hardware contoller OC300: amzn.to/3F7CATi
8-port 2.5G POE switch: amzn.to/46kpFJO
5-port 2.5G POE switch: amzn.to/48KKP5u
2-port POE splitter: amzn.to/46iXeMp
I just set up an Omada system with controller, router, and switch. I have two EAP 660's and using the whole thing with TMHI.
Awesome!
I've been using omada for about 2 years now. Its not perfect but it's a great set up especially for the price point ! Router, managed switch and POE APs all configured and managed with the OC200 controller. Great video.
I'm a week in and happy so far. Some odd quirks here and there but overall working well!
I use the TP Link mesh system and have installed them at a few houses and the owners like them a lot !! Thanks for the review!!
Right on!
Awesome video! I just deployed my Omada system in my home. Definitely nothing compared to your amazing set up/system. No complaints with it at all. TP Link stuff is solid and reliable.
Good to hear!
Mr. Tater Sir, you are the man. This is EXACTLY what I was looking for. TY!!!
Happy to hear this helped!
Dang you're a wild man Nate! That's quite the setup you have. Thanks for the info. It should come in handy next spring when I set up my security system in Idaho.
haha. thanks, happy to share. and i'll add more videos over time so stay tuned for what I learn myself.
I used their earlier system for my son's smaller 'family compound'. He was on T-Mo LTE, it was fast enough.
He now has gig fiber, so I was researching the next gen of Omada. Guess who came up - the Nater.
The only thing we did differently was to use SM fiber and 1G SFPs in Jetstream switches to his three outbuildings. went with the smaller AX3000 APs in the outbuildings since he didn't have anything capable beyond WiFi 6. AX5400 in his office/shop. These are real chonkers at their size.
PCs are all wired, full gig. iPhone 15s get at least 800. Seperate VLAN for their cameras and environmental. I was hoping you'd do a walk thru of the Omada setup. The SPX guy has pretty good info on Omada.
I have an older Meraki system at a public site that is getting too spendy for what it does. Waiting on the OC-400 controller to be available.
Glad you found my video! Sounds like he has a great setup now and I'm jealous of the fiber!
Thanks for the video. I love TP-Link and have it all over our farm with the exception of a UniFi Gigabeam bridge which is great. Dropped Starlink after getting Verizon 5G Home and hoping one of the others is available soon to combine them. Been very happy with our Deco devices.
Thanks for watching Shawn! Glad you have a setup that works well.
Great video! Learnt a lot from your experience. Thank you! Look forward to more of your videos
Great to hear! Thanks
Nice property Nate !!😎
Thanks!
Dang !!!!!! Beautiful property!!!!!!
Thanks!
Thanks 👍🏾 Great Review .
@dwaynearthur1476 glad you liked it!
Thank you for this information!
My pleasure!
Great video - super useful. Did you look at Ubiquiti and rule them out? If so, why? I've seen a lot of talk about the Omada being the Ubiquiti killer but also a lot of talk about Omada not being fully mature yet as a platform. I recently used a Unifi Dream router, a Unifi Enterprise 8 port POE switch, and 6 Access points to provide internet to 50+ people for a few months off of a Starlink and it went very smoothly, even through a hurricane in CA and some 115 degree temps. I'm going to sell all the Ubiquiti gear now that the event was over (except the UDR) but the gear worked well. Thanks for the content, beautiful property!
I did look at the Unifi line up and opted for the Omada system for a few reasons. The tp-link better matched my needs for specific AP's, cost was lower and I've good experiences with tp-link in the past.
A little off topic, but which gateway would you choose from t-mobile? The Nokia or the SageMcom?
I have the Nokia gateway now but it drops connectivity once or twice a week. I am using it as a gateway only with a dynalink ax router.
Thanks in advance.
If i had an open choice I'd pick the G4AR for the easy external antenna ports. ruclips.net/video/hMw-c3GA2tE/видео.html ultimate though a 3rd party gateway is the best ruclips.net/video/tDhxeUm3EqI/видео.html
excellent video just what I'm after. After a few month of research and watch you previous videos as well I'm also thinking to go with similar setup as yours as my property also is quite similar to yours. I just wish you have a video on how to wire the hole system and a bit explain more about how to set it up exactly. Maybe a future video idea ?
BTW how is the system going? are you happy with it since you have install it ?
Cheers
The system is working great and meeting my expectations. Much better than my previous Asus setup. I didnt have to run any more wires as I had already ran ethernet for the Asus (ruclips.net/video/ifRkJb_ejXY/видео.html). What exactly were you looking to see in a video?
@@NaterTater thanks for your reply. I just want to know where the hardware control is used and how it's wired as well as the router.
Also, if you can explain why you need to replace your router with this new one? Was it because you are using 3 ISP?
Also after all the hardware is installed, it would be great to see how to set in the management interface and add and introduce the new hardware to the network.
I hope my questions are clear.
So my heads spinning trying to figure out whats best for my situation. I have been out of the tec and networking relm for a long time so im definitely relearning alot.
Bottom line up front, i have t mobile 5 g home internet. I have a shop 100 yards from the house that when i close the doors i dont pick up wifi or phone signal. My speed requirements need to allow me to stream youtube for tec info while working on stuff, and have my phone connected fir communications.
The only thing i can see adding down the line would be security cameras. What is a good bang for the buck and a simple setup?
Hello, How can i extend my T-Mobile home internet? The black square box. I have tried extenders, ap, with no luck. I would greatly appreciate your setup directions. Thank you in advance for your assistance.
The T-Mobile box is ethernet connected to my Archer AX11000 router. Thank you in advance for your assistance
Great video! Do you use multiple SSID's on different VLAN's? If so, do the Moker switches pass the VLAN ID to the AP's?
Interesting question. Right now its only one LAN but I do plan to split out some VLAN's in the future. I wasn't expecting a problem doing that with the mokerlink switches in the loop but now I'll keep a closer eye!
Are the Mokerlink switches compatible with and managed by the TP-Link Omada Controller?@@NaterTater
@eddieoliver9865 no, these are specifically unmanaged (cheaper) switches that i essentially use as PoE injectors.
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UniFi system would be great.
@@Mitchs yes very similar
I ordered the gateway router and Amazon sent me just a gateway without router!
Why do u need the controller? Vs just having the usual modem to router setup? I am switching to poe security cameras. I want that wan on all the time but the 2nd wan with my wifi ap i want to turn off at night to reduce the em radiation while sleeping.
Do I need the controller to do that?
@crazyhass84 omada requires a controller. Either sw on you server or a hardware controller.
I have the Cheetah Wi-Fi 6 Industrial LTE 5G NR Wireless Modem Router and I would just like to extend the range of the WiFi inside the house...
There are channel changes and other tweaks inside the router, but can't find them in the Guide.
There aren't many settings to improve wifi coverage in the Cheetah (or most wifi routers for that matter). You might want to look at a wifi extender or mesh system ruclips.net/video/BEA61OK6hmc/видео.html
Hi, what software do you use to generate the heat map?
22:15
I’m about to invest in the TP-Link Omda system. Just to confirm I can power one outdoor mesh ap through POE from the switch and then just power another outdoor mesh ap at my gate without Ethernet and I should get signal out there?
Correct. The units come with a POE injector so you would need 110v plug at your gate for the POE injector and then an ethernet cable from the injector to the outdoor unit. Or have a power supply/battery setup for the outdoor unit.
Sorry. Not sure that I understood. I’ll have an access point on the side of my house that is powered by POE through the switch. At my gate approximately 300 feet away I have 110 power but unfortunately did not run Ethernet. Will the one at the gate with only 110 power work without the Ethernet cable since the other will be on the house with Ethernet?
@brandonseery2926 it will work without ethernet from the house. The ethernet is the power cable so you will need an ethernet cable still but it will likely be just a few feet long from the POE injector to the outdoor unit.
I'm looking at the documentation for the EAP650-Outdoor access points and the use cases all have an ethernet data connection. It sounds like you have these in the pond house and building 3 operating as wireless repeaters. Do you require any additional hardware in these locations, or do you configure them and then they run with just power from the POE adapter?
I just power them with the PoE adapters and then they "know" to wirelessly mesh back to the house for data.
@NaterTater how would the EAP650 go as a P2P bridge? I have a similar layout to your block but want to have a NAS etc in one location with the router (separate office) and have the 650s as a bridge to the house
The 650's will just automatically mesh with a house AP. Assuming it has signal.
So along the same lines is this question? We have a shed that is like a Faraday cage .. wifi and cell lost upon entry. Even though your buildings no longer needed the indoor router. This Omada device would still support that correct bringing in the signal from the house over the AP and then down thru ethernet to a router for ether or wifi access inside the building via that cable?
Yes, they include a PoE injector so it has a LAN data port that would be inside your shed and allow you to hook up another AP or switch/router.
Is there a way to set this up without the "Cloud" and TP-Link knowing everything about your network? Seems like a BIG SECURITY hole. I mean if you are connect a POE cable to the EAP650, what in the hell is there to really configure, just freaking work.
Yea, you don't need the cloud for it to work. I use one of their network controllers (OC200 or OC300) and it does everything locally. There is effectively no setup once you have a working system and just plug in an AP. It will provision it and add all the settings.
@@NaterTater That's good to know that it can work without an internet connection. The whole point of the internet was to have some connectivity in a Grid down situation. However all this 'cloud based crapola' out there has all but destroyed that notion. Oh, your security camera won't work because Samsong site is down, or has reached end of life, so sorry, buy our next product. I'm looking at that Wavlink AX3000 outdoor, seems like it can throw the Wifi Signal Much farter (like 2500 feet farther) than what some people were reviewing about these TrendNet outdoor AP were able to provide. With less hardware and rigamarole.
We would actually like to see the placement of the APs
19:30 tries to get at that with the overhead pic but I dont have a video or pics of each device. I can consider making a video on that.
I would like to extend my original SSID and password. I would like an outdoor solution for 1 acre. Thank you in advance for your assistance
This video covers what I use to extend my tmobile home internet. For 1 acre you would need fewer AP's. Probably 2 AP's for inside and 1 or two AP's for outside.
@@NaterTater what ap do you recommend
There are lots of options and you have to weigh the pros and cons of each for you. For me I went with:
Indoor AP EAP670: amzn.to/48IsKVy
Alternative smaller indoor AP: amzn.to/3ZMsNM3
Outdoor AP EAP650-Outdoor: amzn.to/3LQPGZ8
Mutli-WAN router ER707-M2: amzn.to/3tsI1tk
Omada hardware contoller OC300: amzn.to/3F7CATi
8-port 2.5G POE switch: amzn.to/46kpFJO
5-port 2.5G POE switch: amzn.to/48KKP5u
2-port POE splitter: amzn.to/46iXeMp
This? Or wavlink?
@WoWiWe-z2p depends on your needs. For me I use this Omada setup which is more small business grade. I tested wavlink for demonstration and for use at a family members place. Wavlink is easier and simpler to use so a smaller setup or less advanced user might enjoy Wavlink more. What's your use case?
dam bro you paid $625k for that beautiful property, Leslie must be so happy. Are you guys rich? Now it is work $1.08M which is crazy!
Leslie made more than me for many years so yes she is happy with her purchase! It needed lots of love when we bought it so we've spent heavily on it since the purchase but the housing market has stayed strong! You can certainly get more property up this way vs downtown.
look wolverine... a TENNIS court?? in MI?? no no naahh , put curbs around it, fill it with water and play hockey... girls can play too, and or fig skate... tennis... smFh
Thanks for the advice. I didnt build the court nor would I. That'd work for maybe 3 months of the year. The other 9 months it can be for tennis. I'm actually contemplating putting a pole barn over it though.
wtf
What?
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@nater tater beautiful property and home wow just amazing
Thanks! Much better now that I have great internet service with 5G internet. The only broadband option prior was last mile copper/dsl.
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