G'day Chef Nick, I'm an older, retired, chef and although I like the intent of your steamed burger experiment it does cut out the Maillard reaction that occurs in pan or grill cooking. The Maillard reaction is between amino acids in the food reducing sugars. This results in that ever so pleasant to eat browning. This is different from caramelisation which can be achieved when pan frying in say butter mixed with some high flash point oil. Again, it produces an end browning effect that is particularly flavoursome. The fat or "grease", as you misidentified it, is the natural interstitial fats that occur in the animal. As you may or may not know there are good and 'bad' fats in animal tissue. Condemning all animal fats found in a good fresh piece of ground or 'minced' meat is wrong. Just because a good piece of meat produces fat during cooking, not "grease" (which is a petroleum product), does not mean it's bad for you. In fact, you pan fried the ground burger perfectly. You did not over compress the meat and it was still slightly soft and pliable at the end. If the animal fats and juices scare you so much you can cook your burger on a ribbed grill pan or over BBQ grill ribs. The mistake you've made by steaming the ground meat burger is bypassing the Maillard effect totally. You've compounded your mistake by allowing all the good and 'bad' animal fats fall from the burger down into the water. If you don't believe me there are dozens of books from far more expert chefs and chemists that you or I who say the same thing: Fat Is Flavour! Remove the animal fats via steaming and you've created a bland, 'flat' tasting meal. Sure, one could then place the steamed burger in a pan or on a grill, as you suggested but it's a bit late because you've steamed and drained away most of the fats and you will not achieve a true Maillard effect and a reduced level of caramelisation. You're young, you're still learning (I'm still learning) if you want to become a good chef, even a great chef become a good cook first; not a health freak afraid of the natural ingredients you are working with. What you've done here is either intentionally, or accidentally, misled your audience into a method of cooking burgers that is wrong on at least three levels. A good, fresh piece of ground meat for a burger can be slightly rare or medium if the internal temperature exceeds 165 degs F (about 75+ degs C). The reason fast food joints deliberately overcook their burgers is because they are being cooked by unqualified teenagers and the risks are too high for food poisoning. That's why they are awful. You do know how to cook ground meat properly but it seems to terrify you. Do some more reading and learn the tricks of the trade. I hope, since 2015, you've ceased to ruin good burgers with your fear of "grease" Good luck to you in your career. Cheers, BH
agreed chef bill, but the intent of the steamed cheeseburger is to give a more pure beef flavor with no browning from the maillard reaction, something most of the burger "experts" here never considered. when you eat prime rib or roast beef that is cooked as a whole hunk of meat the flavor of the meat in the center is quite different than the meat at the outer edges of the roast. that is the point, that you have obviously missed...
Excellent, excellent dialogue. Exstreamly refreshing not having half or better covered with "you know". And yes your camera person did a very good job. Video content, lighting worked quite nicely, I'm a retired video / Tv engineer. Keep up the good work.
For those that are worried about carcinogens, a steamed or boiled burger does not have the carcinogens that a fried or grilled burger has. I first learned about this a few days ago when I watched a video about Pete's Burgers and I immediately thought that that burger was healthier because it was adding carcinogens through frying or grilling.
I've eaten many of Steamed cheeseburgers in my life. This is a good way to prepare them at home if you cannot afford a steam cabinet. I do recommend that when you serve the burger, try using a block cheese and steam it. Also try a thick slice of Vidalia onion and tomato Enjoy
Good demonstration. I just started watching "steamed hamburger" videos this week. I had a 4 oz patty of 73/27 hamburger for lunch. Since I don't have a veggie steamer, I used a 4 qt pan with some water in the bottom. Then seasoned the hamburger and put it in a strainer, put the strainer in the pan. I put a lid on top, but because of the strainer handle the lid did not fit tight. That was not a problem. In 9 minutes the internal temperature was 170 to 180 degrees. Well done the way I like it, but no crust (which I like) as with pan frying. So if you try this method and prefer your meat medium to medium rare, check it with a thermometer after about 5 - 6 minutes. Yesterday I crumbled up about 2 pound of the same meat and steamed it also. I hope to make a video about this in the next few weeks.
I think you should have drained the fat from the frying pan as well, and then compared the amount from the frying pan vs the amount from the boiled pan. I have a feeling, the amounts would have been similar, and therefore the fried burger would not be any less healthy than the steamed burger.
did you ever air fry after steam the burger try it in video its more healthy and yet crispy I've try it for me and my Pitbull and also drumstick chicken steam for 30 minutes and air fry for 30 minutes with 375 degree 👍👍👍👌👌👌👏👏👏
I just found out that I have high cholesterol, I'm going to try this, my Mom used to make steam burgers but minced onions & green peppers with a little s&p 😋 They were really good. I was surprised how much much fat comes off a pan fried burger ! Wow
The most important thing about steaming protein meats vs frying meat, you dont DENATURE THE PROTEINS within it! Therefore your body will have better protein utilization of the meat source!💪😀
Open up both ends of your WC burger pack , do not remove the 2 burgers from the wrapper . Place in a steamer pot when water is already steaming. Steam 15 minutes , perfect every time, regular or cheese . I use the cheeseburgers . Leaving in wrapper keeps the bread from getting soggy. Tried every other method , this is the golden ticket.
Good job Nick & thanks ( i guess that explains why i feel sick after eating a particular hamburger from a couple of fast food joints compared to a White Castle hamburger ) 👍
i always steam my burger, also i use 95-5 lean beef. also tomatoes and pickles and lettuce is always better than gouda. in rare cases, i use defatted parmesan or mozzarella.
I find it pretty funny you are worried about fat in hamburger meat (that's what make it good) but you put BUTTER AND BROWN SUGAR on your sweet potato. Butter is animal fat. No sugar is good for you. All that fat that's in the cup from the fried burger isn't in my diet, it's in the cup. You kneed a more scientific way to show how much fat is actually in each burger after cooking. I think this is a flawed test.
@@sergeantseven4240 it absolutely is. Saturated fats are good for you. Since I increased my fat and cut out my carbs I have lost 60 pounds,increased energy, elimated chronic pain, greatly improved my blood work, take no medications anymore and feel fantastic. At 61 I am in better health than I have been in over 20 years. Trust me, the USDA, AHA, FDA, big pharma has been lieing to us for over 50 years.
@@linaadams138 beleive me .. this is much healthier steamed than fried ... u will have anough Saturated fats in ur diet from eggs and other things ... just steam everything u can .. and have a lot of green veggies ..
Ok... wait for a moment egg-head... 1) why would you do a steamed burger for health reasons. Never heard of tofu - or even tastier and healthy options? Like a salad? Honestly steaming this burger and then eat it with American cheese and white bread is like jog for 30 minutes (for health reasons) and then stuff your face with pork belly... 2) People who cook, know a thing or two about Maillard reaction. This is the browning which occurs when meat and other protein is browning. And evidently it makes food taste delicious! The problem with steam: it doesn't make it particularly delicious. 3) It is not, that there is no point of steaming burgers (there is are steamed and boiled burgers in regional burger joints and apparently they are good) - but please don't run this false flag operation about healthier ways of cooking burgers. We are all grown ups. If we eat something healthy, we should do this conscious decision. And if we want some junk food, we should do the same. 4) By the way - it would make far more sense, to use a leaner ground meat.... 'Normal burgers are 80-20 to be juicy (and fat) - but you can easily go down to 90-10 or even lower - especially if you really want to steam your patty...
Who said anything about cheese and bread ? For me, some fresh ground black pepper and a slice of tomato and slice of onion on the side and I'm good. If I ate tofu, I don't expect I would have viewed this video anyhow. Good luck with your culinary pursuits.
This will be an unforgettable luncheon
4:40
"So we'll give this about 8 more minutes until we start seeing aurora borealis coming out of the oven."
G'day Chef Nick, I'm an older, retired, chef and although I like the intent of your steamed burger experiment it does cut out the Maillard reaction that occurs in pan or grill cooking. The Maillard reaction is between amino acids in the food reducing sugars. This results in that ever so pleasant to eat browning. This is different from caramelisation which can be achieved when pan frying in say butter mixed with some high flash point oil. Again, it produces an end browning effect that is particularly flavoursome.
The fat or "grease", as you misidentified it, is the natural interstitial fats that occur in the animal. As you may or may not know there are good and 'bad' fats in animal tissue.
Condemning all animal fats found in a good fresh piece of ground or 'minced' meat is wrong. Just because a good piece of meat produces fat during cooking, not "grease" (which is a petroleum product), does not mean it's bad for you.
In fact, you pan fried the ground burger perfectly. You did not over compress the meat and it was still slightly soft and pliable at the end. If the animal fats and juices scare you so much you can cook your burger on a ribbed grill pan or over BBQ grill ribs.
The mistake you've made by steaming the ground meat burger is bypassing the Maillard effect totally. You've compounded your mistake by allowing all the good and 'bad' animal fats fall from the burger down into the water.
If you don't believe me there are dozens of books from far more expert chefs and chemists that you or I who say the same thing: Fat Is Flavour! Remove the animal fats via steaming and you've created a bland, 'flat' tasting meal. Sure, one could then place the steamed burger in a pan or on a grill, as you suggested but it's a bit late because you've steamed and drained away most of the fats and you will not achieve a true Maillard effect and a reduced level of caramelisation.
You're young, you're still learning (I'm still learning) if you want to become a good chef, even a great chef become a good cook first; not a health freak afraid of the natural ingredients you are working with.
What you've done here is either intentionally, or accidentally, misled your audience into a method of cooking burgers that is wrong on at least three levels. A good, fresh piece of ground meat for a burger can be slightly rare or medium if the internal temperature exceeds 165 degs F (about 75+ degs C).
The reason fast food joints deliberately overcook their burgers is because they are being cooked by unqualified teenagers and the risks are too high for food poisoning. That's why they are awful.
You do know how to cook ground meat properly but it seems to terrify you. Do some more reading and learn the tricks of the trade. I hope, since 2015, you've ceased to ruin good burgers with your fear of "grease" Good luck to you in your career. Cheers, BH
Agree chef
Wow! I am glad I didn't skip past your comment it is very informative and worth reading!
agreed chef bill, but the intent of the steamed cheeseburger is to give a more pure beef flavor with no browning from the maillard reaction, something most of the burger "experts" here never considered. when you eat prime rib or roast beef that is cooked as a whole hunk of meat the flavor of the meat in the center is quite different than the meat at the outer edges of the roast. that is the point, that you have obviously missed...
Yeeesh Mr. pro chef, give the poor kid a break. Looks to me like he’s just trying something out. Calm down,it’s gonna be ok.
I tried this today and it was very good! I may do this again when I’m craving burgers. Thanks for the video!
Steamed Hams lol
I'm from upstate New York and this is a fine example of steamed hams.
Well, Chef Nick, you are an odd fellow, but I must say you steam a good ham.
*mmmm! Steamed Hams!*
Excellent, excellent dialogue. Exstreamly refreshing not having half or better covered with "you know". And yes your camera person did a very good job. Video content, lighting worked quite nicely, I'm a retired video / Tv engineer. Keep up the good work.
For those that are worried about carcinogens, a steamed or boiled burger does not have the carcinogens that a fried or grilled burger has. I first learned about this a few days ago when I watched a video about Pete's Burgers and I immediately thought that that burger was healthier because it was adding carcinogens through frying or grilling.
It's not grease, it's beef fat and it's delicious!
I've eaten many of Steamed cheeseburgers in my life. This is a good way to prepare them at home if you cannot afford a steam cabinet. I do recommend that when you serve the burger, try using a block cheese and steam it. Also try a thick slice of Vidalia onion and tomato Enjoy
Ted, is that you?
I thought we were having steamed clams
Junebug2 Oh, no! I said steamed HAMS! That's what I call hamburgers!
Cade Thumann you call hamburgers steamed hams
Jacob Robert Yes! It's a regional dialect.
Good demonstration. I just started watching "steamed hamburger" videos this week. I had a 4 oz patty of 73/27 hamburger for lunch. Since I don't have a veggie steamer, I used a 4 qt pan with some water in the bottom. Then seasoned the hamburger and put it in a strainer, put the strainer in the pan. I put a lid on top, but because of the strainer handle the lid did not fit tight. That was not a problem. In 9 minutes the internal temperature was 170 to 180 degrees. Well done the way I like it, but no crust (which I like) as with pan frying. So if you try this method and prefer your meat medium to medium rare, check it with a thermometer after about 5 - 6 minutes. Yesterday I crumbled up about 2 pound of the same meat and steamed it also. I hope to make a video about this in the next few weeks.
do you have aurora borealis in your kitchen?
Scrungo McDungo aurora borealis? AT this time of day at this time of year in this part of the country localised entirely within your kitchen
yes
No
That takes me back. Thanks!
Great job. I'm trying this.
Thanks for a great demonstration! I am convinced now about a better way to cook.
3 years later… how’s your health now?
Excellent cooking👍
I wonder if he lives in Albany
I think you should have drained the fat from the frying pan as well, and then compared the amount from the frying pan vs the amount from the boiled pan. I have a feeling, the amounts would have been similar, and therefore the fried burger would not be any less healthy than the steamed burger.
The fried burger looked like someone had added alot of the fat around if from the pan
How about searing it for like 30 seconds each side, then steaming the rest of the way?
Baghuul He did say something like that where he mentioned about steaming it and then searing quickly on both sides.
How could he do that though? Then it would make the hamburgers look like they're obviously grilled?
If ya seared it before steaming, the rendered fat would not "exit" as well during the steaming process.
did you ever air fry after steam the burger try it in video its more healthy and yet crispy I've try it for me and my Pitbull and also drumstick chicken steam for 30 minutes and air fry for 30 minutes with 375 degree 👍👍👍👌👌👌👏👏👏
Did you eat those burgers?
I just found out that I have high cholesterol, I'm going to try this, my Mom used to make steam burgers but minced onions & green peppers with a little s&p 😋 They were really good. I was surprised how much much fat comes off a pan fried burger ! Wow
I hope you're prepared for an unforgettable luncheon!
The most important thing about steaming protein meats vs frying meat, you dont DENATURE THE PROTEINS within it! Therefore your body will have better protein utilization of the meat source!💪😀
I will try that but I won't boil water in my cast iron. I'll use a different pan.
I am going to try this with a stainless steel pan with a perforated steamer insert by All Clad. Just got it and am looking for a chance to use it
No cows were harmed during the filming of this video. They were harmed a week before.
Lmao!
cool, will try your method.
There are good reasons to steam a burger but getting rid of fat is not one of them. If you want less fat in your hamburger buy leaner ground beef.
You know this video is very educational and eyes opening. Good job. Well what happened to the others :-)
I use the Foreman Grill.
I came here to cook my microwaveable White Castle burger.. by steaming it stove top. So thank you 😊
Open up both ends of your WC burger pack , do not remove the 2 burgers from the wrapper .
Place in a steamer pot when water is already steaming. Steam 15 minutes , perfect every time, regular or cheese . I use the cheeseburgers .
Leaving in wrapper keeps the bread from getting soggy. Tried every other method , this is the golden ticket.
Good job Nick & thanks ( i guess that explains why i feel sick after eating a particular hamburger from a couple of fast food joints compared to a White Castle hamburger ) 👍
In no world is a steamed burger better, in any way, than a flat top burger....not even in Steam World
💟💟💟Excellent chef👌👌👌💟💟💟
I think that's the strangest mustard placement I've ever seen...
Lekue offers a pretty good silicone steamer for the microwave.
You have advice to warm up frozen white castle burgers..
The steamed burger looks fucking awful. Principal Skinner would be ashamed.
Why do you use 80% 20%? I use 95% and I cook them in olive oil. None of that grease.
I hope you passed this class. Lol.😆
Finally, a steamed hamburger that actually also has grill marks
PS: oh, it's a separate beef patty
Yes, you call them steamed hams despite the fact they're obviously grilled
.....with the steamed burgER lol great video
I like the video, good job guy!
amazing video ! thanks man ! from now on i will only steam my meat ! u are the best bro
You can just cook that burger in the oven and it will taste much better than a steamed burger
I gotta have a fried burger 🍔
I will not eat Steamed Eggs and Hams
Great idea
steamed hams!
Good deal👍
Very well done
i always steam my burger, also i use 95-5 lean beef.
also tomatoes and pickles and lettuce is always better than gouda. in rare cases, i use defatted parmesan or mozzarella.
I boil my burgers.
As soon as someone making a burger starts forming a meat ball Im out.
You steam and put sugar... Sugar is worse than fat.
That po po little burger 😂😂
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As a person who understands the basics of cooking, this video made me sad and angry
the steamed one looks rank!!!
BURGER IS NOT A DIET FOOD!
its not .. but u can still cook it unhealty .. or healthier
They healthy to me lmao. Its beeeefff 🤣
Fat is flavor my friend.😮
U look like nick eh 30
Somethings are just not suppose to be healthy. I still rather eat fat that natural, then the chemicals in that non stick can.
That steamed burger looks dry as shit.
"healthier" and hamburger is an oxymoron. 🤣😂
Idiot
Steam cook a pizza you son of a... :P
I find it pretty funny you are worried about fat in hamburger meat (that's what make it good) but you put BUTTER AND BROWN SUGAR on your sweet potato. Butter is animal fat. No sugar is good for you.
All that fat that's in the cup from the fried burger isn't in my diet, it's in the cup. You kneed a more scientific way to show how much fat is actually in each burger after cooking. I think this is a flawed test.
Good looking stud.
I love steamed burgers, but honestly, you want to eat the fat. It's healthy.
No its not. where in the world did you get that from?
@@sergeantseven4240 it absolutely is. Saturated fats are good for you. Since I increased my fat and cut out my carbs I have lost 60 pounds,increased energy, elimated chronic pain, greatly improved my blood work, take no medications anymore and feel fantastic. At 61 I am in better health than I have been in over 20 years. Trust me, the USDA, AHA, FDA, big pharma has been lieing to us for over 50 years.
Lina Adams couldn’t agree more
@@linaadams138 beleive me .. this is much healthier steamed than fried ... u will have anough Saturated fats in ur diet from eggs and other things ... just steam everything u can .. and have a lot of green veggies ..
Not very convincing. Why so much hate for the fats?
no color = no flavor
well then take haroin .. whats ur point ??
Ok... wait for a moment egg-head...
1) why would you do a steamed burger for health reasons. Never heard of tofu - or even tastier and healthy options? Like a salad? Honestly steaming this burger and then eat it with American cheese and white bread is like jog for 30 minutes (for health reasons) and then stuff your face with pork belly...
2) People who cook, know a thing or two about Maillard reaction. This is the browning which occurs when meat and other protein is browning. And evidently it makes food taste delicious! The problem with steam: it doesn't make it particularly delicious.
3) It is not, that there is no point of steaming burgers (there is are steamed and boiled burgers in regional burger joints and apparently they are good) - but please don't run this false flag operation about healthier ways of cooking burgers. We are all grown ups. If we eat something healthy, we should do this conscious decision. And if we want some junk food, we should do the same.
4) By the way - it would make far more sense, to use a leaner ground meat.... 'Normal burgers are 80-20 to be juicy (and fat) - but you can easily go down to 90-10 or even lower - especially if you really want to steam your patty...
Who said anything about cheese and bread ? For me, some fresh ground black pepper and a slice of tomato and slice of
onion on the side and I'm good. If I ate tofu, I don't expect I would have viewed this video anyhow. Good luck with your culinary pursuits.