Helldivers II Has Bigger Problems Than Sony...
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2024
- I think the juice won't be worth the squeeze for a lot of people looking to buy the game once they realize how poor the Warbonds System is. Obviously this all my opinion. Sorry for the mic-quality, this is my first commentary video like this, though, so I plan to get better going forward and get a P-P-POP filter.
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I havent had to $$$ for a single warbond so far. I've saved up every bit of the currency in-game and always have more than enough to pay for the next warbond when they roll out.
That's fine. You probably caught the game at launch. Unfortunately for newer players wanting to catch up in a few months it'll be an issue.
Is anyone else hearing treason rn?
Where is the nearest democracy officer??
i think you are right, i think we are hearing treason
Bro hasn’t heard of the SC, medal farms ☠️☠️☠️
Bro was worried about that new players, sometimes in the future, will have to face some serious "You like my build, Newby? 10k SC and a shit ton of medals and you can rock it too." situiations... and he is right. As a new Helldiver, you will have to unlock hundreds of useless filler Items to get to the weapons and booster you will need. That always sucks.
Other games have the same problems? Yes, but Arrowhead claimed that they want to make a better live service game... and I don't see it.
All of them have been patched, or will be as I've said to others in the comments. The Devs want you to grind, they won't let farms stand.
@@ProfessionalNapper xD, no they are not... that seriously made me laugh. Congrats!
I took the game 3 weeks ago and won 2700 credit buy just playing the game in 46h of play. Just play the game
Only point I agree with. Is town environments with houses and road ways.
just play 9s/helldive and u will get every warbond done in a few days smh -_-
Not ashamed to admit I've never been on a true helldive, haven't went past extreme... yet. But I'm still on the last page of every warbond. Didn't even take that long, maybe a week
yet all I play is 9s and 5 weeks later I'm almost on my third? Haven't fully completed the og yet either
This is great advice if you're unemployed or have an abundance of free time and a desire to grind the game.
Just a tip for super credits "farm": it's easier on lower difficulties. Dif 9 is cool but you barely have time to get secondary objectives, play on dif 7 (most people play here), and if you already have everything, go to lower dif and carry low level people while clearing the whole map.
Of course, there are other ways to farm super credits, but this is the best non-mind-numbing way of doing it.
You might just not love the game
I don't. I like the game a lot and I want it to be better, I wasn't operating under the assumption that I had to live on Helldivers to progress, though?
I have every warbond, and every item in each. I also have every armor and helm in the superstore. I have never once spent IRL cash to buy super credits, frankly there is no need to, much less to "grind" for them. Just play the game normally and don't ignore POI's on the map, you should walk away from every mission with around 30 or so SC. Just by playing normally. Hell im sitting at 3865 SC right now and the new warbond is this Thursday.
You can already get 100 SC pod drops in extract missions
ive only bought the super citizen edition, and every other warbond ive been able to unlock on release day by just playing the game pretty casually. ive only been doing daily orders for the last month, so i might need to actually target farm / reload farm SC for the next warbond, we'll see.
Kids these days don't want to put in the hard work to reap the benefits.
There is a feeling of accomplishment when you have put in the work and you finally get that reward you have been working towards .
its all about instant gratification now , probably due to the short attention span some people have that our modern society has conditioned us to .
What Boomers like us often don't understand: We worked hard and got some amazing stuff. In these times, all you get is recolored and lazy crap... yes even in war bonds.
Our times are over, so we should shut up a bit more. Let the "kids" complain... we did it too back then. Our parents weren't always right, just as we aren't always right either.
Insulting kids should not be part of "My children should have better times than I had." (or something like that, I'm not a native speaker).
Sometimes we look like a bunch of jealous dochebags, just because we are starting to become irrelevant. No worries, the kids will manage... they always did
@@Knurrfaucher not even a Boomer bro but we all are entitled to our opinions .
Never did I ever say anything about instant gratification. My main issue is the rate at which SC is earned and the fact that weapons, grenades and boosters - which are gameplay items, are gated behind this stuff. Which means if someone is a casual player and doesn't want to fork over money for Warbonds they'll have an unreal grind to actually get he opportunity to use new weapons. Imagine if CoD put all its new weapons behind a battle pass. People wouldn't like that. But for some reason it's given a pass here?
Am I just playing wrong? I have about 90 hours mission time and never find super credits like everyone is saying, Ive gotten two other warbonds other than the base and had to buy credits for both, like ive found some and got some from warbonds but im definitely not making a 1000 in a couple days playing casually like a lot of people are claiming
you need to find all the shineys! The bunker/vaults that require 2 people to open, the containers that need to have the doors blown off, and the downed pods with the golden beacons. You get super creds, medals, req slips, and rare or super(maybe on higher difficulties I'm not sure) samples. playing an hour or 2 a day it probably takes me a couple weeks to gather 1000 super creds but that when I'm playing with randoms, the times when I can get with my team or at least a decent team of randos I definitely find a lot more.
@@andrewlyell6606 thats fair I generally try to, I usually play solo around diff 4 or 5 and hop up to 7 with randoms, I just feel super creds show up the least and its r slips and samples a lot but that could be the difficultly im on, I bought 2 people this game and they dropped it and other people I know that have also have been playing way less, and I feel like the randoms is real luck of the draw on if they just extract with no samples and no side objs or i get kicked, some randoms are pretty awesome though and i appreciate them lol
@@coldraviolis8179 they're definitely the less common thing you'll find due to them being a premium currency. I have the best luck running lvl4s and that may just be due to how fast I can run through them even with some antsy or no brained randoms that just want to extract asap.
@@andrewlyell6606agree container, beacon pod , and bunker (i found more super credit drops from bunker, i might be wrong tho). Actually the key is to find your own team mates or getting a good randoms. Scour the map fast. Even in difficulty 7-9 we run in pair and divide the jobs or area of operation.
You're not alone. I imagine you and I are the average player in the game. I don't think you should have to scour the map for pickups every game to earn Super Credits at a decent rate or resort to silly farming techniques.
Dude I got the first Warbond in a few days…there is no grind just play the game and loot POI’s.
Also u don’t need them. The base weapons are pretty solid I’m using the normal liberator for most of my missions recently.
Tell me you’re gen Z without telling me you’re gen Z
Dont let him cook ever again
bro my guy. Free credits incentivize us to go to lower levels where they always seem prevalent. And if you are hella lucky you can find a stack of 100 super credits in one chest. Like fam, incentive to play is the goal and the grind ain't a problem and we are getting new missions and goals every day. Now that sony backed down the game is back to being perfect for me.
Weapons are much better now than a month ago. Your problem is you don't understand how to make a build work, not to mention what role the weapons have. I've cleared a full 3 mission run on 9 with the HMG solo, it's all about how you complement the strengths and weaknesses. Lazer shotty is for bugs, combine it with Medic or Grenade armor and stand on top of the breaches; complement with Queso or EATs for anti-heavy, Jumpjet for added mobility, and Cluster for quick clears (or a stun stratagem). Your choice of anti-structure (500k, 120/380). SMG + Ballistic Shield + Med/Heavy Fort + Queso AND EATs, and you nullify hulks, heavy devs, and up to 3 dropships per flare (works best in a duo though).
This isn't an MMO, nor is it something like Borderlands. Myself and the majority of players don't minmax our "builds". We pick the shit we like, the most entertaining stratagems and weapons - and we go kill Super Earth's enemies. I can guarantee you the devs haven't put any thought into "builds" either. If that's the way you choose to play the game, I respect that. I highly doubt it's the way the majority of players want to enjoy it. We just want fun and effective weapons, a good path to get to acquire them and interesting enemies and environments to use them in.
@@ProfessionalNapper If that's the case, the "average player" doesn't have a footing to whine about balance. If none of your buddies bring a way to deal with Titans, or none of you bring a way to deal with hordes of bile spewers, that failure is the team's fault not the game's. It's what's called a "Skill Issue." If you're having fun, then have fun. If a player isn't having fun, then that player should evaluate how he plays before blaming other people.
@@recless8667 I know you came to this comment section to flex your "skill" in a PvE game but never did I ever claim I struggled in the game. I can clear 8/9s perfectly fine, as can the majority of everyone who plays because it's a PvE game. I'll say it again. Player versus Environment. You're not breaking any ground by bringing a weapon to deal with heavies and a weapon to deal with hordes, that's common sense. My primary criticism with the weapons is that three or four do everything better than the entire roster of weapons, making the majority else feel anemic in comparison. Asking for the devs to buff guns that don't feel as good as their meta counterparts shouldn't be controversial, but for some reason it is.
I mean... yeah? new game, and don't forget that like... they're trying to fix it constantly to keep it balanced, but it will take time.
i agree with you on the super credit pick up amount needing to being more substantial for long term. but idk about the weapons portion of the video (dont get me wrong majority of the weapons are stale) i feel like AH should buff up more then nerf but then again if you dont change the meta i personally doubt anyone would use anything other than the top weapons i.e: scorcher
Most of the information is wrong, even if people wanted to buy super credits to buy the warbonds it's only $10/warbond not $20, a few of the weapons were nerfed yeah but most still feel just fine. it's also not had to farm super credits, in a matter of a couple hours of playtime I was able to gather up 350 super credits, you just have to hit the POIs, it's a lot easier if you're playing with friends though or at least communicating with your team of randoms. It's a live service game done right for once, they're adding new stuff on almost a weekly basis they're going to need microtransactions which is exactly what their super credits and warbonds are, unlike COD that charges you $20 so you can run around playing out your fantasies of being a Big bootied Nicki Minaj or Snoop Dogg as a dog.
I didn't ever say Warbonds were $20? And my problem with the weapons is that a few stand out above the rest, making the others feel less distinct. Obviously you can win with all of them if you really like the weapon or want to - but there is a meta. Simply put, more guns should be getting buffs - no guns should be getting nerfs until they bring everything up to standard. For every person I've seen say they have an abundance of credits, there's another who says the opposite. I've done plenty of POI hunting so at this point I have no idea.
I'm at over 200 hours in-mission, have unlocked everything and the game isn't stale for me. I wish the game actually had more grind because I'm at all of my resource limits. It still feels pretty novel in terms of how it stacks up to other co-op shooters for me personally. Also, this is a live service game. It needs a continuous stream of revenue from warbonds to pay its staff and to stay afloat. This game is still in its infancy as far as its potential is concerned. Be patient or play something else to pass the time. This take gives me the impression that you don't love the game as you say you do or you're just using negativity to farm views.
I'm well aware of the need for revenue as the game continues to grow, my primary issue is the fact that weapons, grenades and booster which are gameplay items, are gated behind Warbonds. You give me the impression that you have an abundance of time, which is fine, the average person doesn't. I enjoy Helldivers immensely, I don't enjoy sifting for SC to buy warbonds so I can try a new weapon or otherwise paying $10 every time. Sure it's better than the garbage we've been fed for the past few years, but that doesn't mean it's above reproach.
You're completely out of touch. Spending money to unlock the packs isnt even a faster way to get everything because you will need to earn medals to unlock the content in the packs. By the time youve earned enough medals to unlock the gear in the pack, you will have earned more than enough super credits through gameplay to unlock the next one.
It's actually a silly idea to spend your real money on them.
It's silly to give monetary support to a game you love and want to see have longevity?
Preach
bro is complaining about actually having to play the game to get gear, i've never had a issue with the grind, cuz its fun, i've got almost all the superstore armor sets, the ones i want at atleast and haven't spent a dime, the system is set up to be rewarding enough for the regular players but also give people that work alot, a chance to keep up, also i'ver maxed out everything and once you hit that point the grind is gone and its just game play, its like csgo or cod or overwatch, there is very little grind in those games and are extremely repetitive
dude, i unlocked everything by the time i reached lvl 75. never spent a dime on the game. earn your shit dude, play the game, you get plenty of warbonds and super credits.
L take bro doesnt even know how to farm creds
I bought the game when 3 Warbonds had already been released. I now have MAX MEDALS, AND ALL WARBONDS UNLOCKED EXCEPT FOR A TOTAL OF 3 ITEMS. THIS WAS NOT HARD, I DID NOT SPEND REAL MONEY, 120ish hours TOTAL. You are either 1) Making a Video just to get views or 2) Literally know nothing about the game...
The cap doesnt become an issue unless you play a lot and are waiting on the new warbond, new players wont do that, they'll be too busy spending it as they get it. It could be better but it is far superior to other online titles bs loot crates and battle passes. New enemies and planets are coming........patience
Just because it's better than the slop we've been getting recently doesn't mean I can't level criticism I believe is more than fair. Imo the cap is entirely too low and exacerbates the grind immensely.
How about just playing the game and earn it instead of being lazy? If your excuse is having no time then buy it and support the dev since you'll be working (if you even have a job). Only thing i hear in the whole video is about a kid ranting.
bruh go play hello kittys island
Servers went down 2017, Dude
did you even play the game ffs?
As someone who started playing two weeks ago, I don't really have a problem with getting the next warbond as a new player. Metals take long enough to get that I will easily have enough super credits by the time I'm done to get the next warbond, even after purchasing a few items from the super store. I don't like that I can't get some items I want right now though, as you brought up. I want the stun grenades, but I'm going to have to wait a while to get it. It's the same with stratagems too. I have to wait to level up before getting the cool stuff.
bro holy crud what a complainer this game is giving us free and new content every month
Bro really never played the game
The biggest problem with the warbonds is the fact that Arrowhead keeps nerfing the weapons so heavily that it makes me not want to spend money on the new weapons. The most recent warbond launched and it had 1 great weapon (Eruptor), 2 ok weapons (grenade pistol and crossbow), and one terrible weapon (adjudicator). Then they buffed the adjudicator into an ok weapon, nerfed the crossbow into a terrible weapon, and nerfed the eruptor weapon into an ok weapon. Now there are no weapons in that warbond worth spending money on, and these weapons aren't going to be in my loadouts anymore, but the money has already been spent.
None of the weapons they nerfed were overpowered, they already had significant downsides to their use. They also didn't even classify it as a "nerf" they called it a "rebalance" but the weapons were made worse and less effective at their roles by the rebalance.
The most recent eruptor nerf was probably too much, but that gun was overtuned. The version of it before yesterday's patch was just right.
@@jiopa It really wasn't. The downsides of it was that it had a small magazine, a long reload, really bad handling making it difficult to kill fast moving things (terrible for Shriekers, or shooting hunters out of the air for example), and you couldn't shoot anything close to you or you would injure and ragdoll (or straight up kill yourself) unless you used a shield. The gun was pretty well balanced and had a lot of downsides, but each shot felt powerful and it solved certain problems (spitters, stalkers) very quickly when they're problems for other weapons. Really though, I don't think the Eruptor was ever better than the Dominator, which hasn't been nerfed.
@@stilllife8 it was definitely stronger than the dominator before they buffed the dominator. It had Splash, stagger, and armor pen. All 3. Name 1 other gun that has all 3. Comparatively, look at the Slugger pre-nerf. Shares most of the qualities of the eruptor except it only had stagger and armor pen. But like I said, the version of the eruptor before yesterday's patch was a really good spot to be in imo.
@@jiopa The stagger on the eruptor doesn't matter because it doesn't shoot fast enough to follow up on the stagger. The dominator does, so the stagger on the dominator is a huge plus. The only thing that the eruptor was better at was being able to close bug holes, which is a big thing, but it comes with way more downsides than the dominator does.
@@stilllife8 i dunno man. The eruptor also had longer effective range than the dominator. Waves of enemies wouldnt even get close to you. You could start fights at hundreds of meters away. And by time they got within melee range, there would barely be any left. At which point you switch to a close range supp weapon. And even then, you kite in between shots. You fire, they stop, you walk back while cocking ghe gun. I used to run it with lazdog, arc thrower, 500, and orbital rail. Literally covers all bases. You could hold a bug breach by yourself on helldive. The only thing it would struggle with would be high number of chargers. But most other players run anti tank so it was really a non factor. So giving it an ammo nerf was really warranted.
you can farm supe creds by playing on first 3 difficulties and use a scout loadout
Idk sounds like a skill issue
Truly awful takes. I could elaborate but I think it's so bad that it speaks for itself.
go play cod then, no ones stopping you blud
Watching this video is just waste of my time
seriously... Just play the game and stop trying to demolish it. If you are done playing then just move on. Assembling super credits is not a hard task.
L video, go play hello kitty online.
Oh no big baby is sad he can’t buy everything in the game right off the bat. Go back to Warzone and blow your money there.
This is moot and incorrect.
Actually I don't think it is, look at what they just did with this weapon nerf, look at how much time you need to put in to get a primary weapon that's actually effective. It's not like you always have a moment to call in a bigger weapon and wait for it to land and you shouldn't require them but we almost do at this point, look at the earn rates for anything that's considered a microtransactional currency.
There is a lot of potential to be grown into in this game
You sounds like someone who doesn't give the non-meta weapons much of chance. Yeah, the Plas-Scorcher and the Dominator are the easiest to use, but I have done just fine on 7+ with the Punisher, Slugger, Eruptor, Plas-Punisher, Defender, and Breaker. Haven't had a chance to try most of the newly buffed weapons, but you sound like you don't use anything but the easier weapons, so your opinion is pretty worthless.
The rate at which I passively have gained super credits just from playing the game and finding them in crates and bunkers has meant that I have not had to pay for the last several warbonds. I also bought most of the super store armors for free this way too. I've watched videos of people farming like 600 super credits an hour doing only lvl 2 missions which are really easy. You don't need to spend a single cent for anything past the base game if you don't want to. I only have 100 hours, and I have never tried to farm in low levels. It took me like 60 hours just to unlock everything in the free warbond, and that comes with free super credits in it. By the time a new player gets that far, they'll have enough super credits to unlock at least 1 other warbond, and if they are clearing the maps at all, they'll also have enough from playing to unlock more stuff beyond that.
I'm marking this channel as click bait bullshit.
Firstly, I've used all the weapons (merely because you have to as you level, and I've come back to them frequently for fun), my favorite weapon at the moment is the plasma shotgun. Never did I say you can't win with these weapons, or even have a good time using them. That point was merely to demonstrate that I don't think any weapons should be getting nerfs, instead the lesser performing weapons should be brought up to standard before any nerfs are applied. As humans we seek the best tool for the job, I want all the tools in the arsenal to be good enough that there's a reason not to default to weapons like the Scythe and the Scorcher.
Secondly, my whole point about Warbonds is that I don't think WEAPONS, GRENADES and BOOSTERS should be gated behind a premium currency. New players after completing the first warbond will have enough credits to purchase a warbond, but as I said - this is a long term issue. There are only 4 warbonds right now outside of the first, what happens when there are 10 warbonds each for $10? Or 20 of them? I'm merely looking into the future. Also, you must be playing a different game than me, I have a hundred hours in, I sweep through missions almost in their entirety with a 4-man team, I've only been able to afford one warbond with the Super Credits given through gameplay. The farming methods you speak of have all been patched, as I've looked to these as solutions to this problem in the recent past.
My video isn't clickbait, I believe it's a legitimate issue - but I certainly imagined when I was making this that this is the response I would get from some. You strike me as the kind of person who just skimmed it, which is ironic given it's a five minute video.
@@ProfessionalNapperso they just just play the game to get super credits? It’s really not an issue, they can pay if they want to or not.
@@ProfessionalNapper LoL me and my team mates, we never , i said never paid for any premium warbond and it is not a hard grind. Right now i have almost 2.5k super credits with all premium warbond unlocked and and bought quite a few of the armors and helms at the super store, and also me and my team dont use the farming methods they said, we are just playing the game. 3 of my teammates also unlocked all of the premium warbond with their play time ranging from 110-150 hours. So i dont know why you and your team can only afford 1 premium warbond after a hundred hours of gameplay. I dont know how you can manage to just unlock one premium warbond with 100 hours of gameplay. I am not mocking or threw critics, i am just amazed and actually curious on how you couldn't get that.
@@ProfessionalNapper I think it's too early to call this a serious problem. As long as the standard weapons stay relevant and the warbonds just give you different flavors to choose from, you can just play the game, have fun and get new options as you go. If at some point you actually need weapons, grenades and stuff out of two or three different warbonds to keep progressing and have fun, I would agree and call it a problem. Bur right now, that's just not the case.
Im playing with 3 friends who are a few levels below me at different stages. Each one finds stuff he likes in the standard weapons and each one is interestet in different warbonds. I'm just at lvl 35 and got each warbond (though not yet each completed) and got a ton of options. The extra credits I chose to buy to support the devs I used in the store for new armor. So all I did for weapons was play the game to earn medals and picking up the credits along the way. It is easy enough to do that as you get the xp to gain all the strategems, I'd say.
@@ProfessionalNapper you are literally in the less that 1% population of the game that thinks this, bravo. (also got everything unlocked before i reached lvl 75, didnt spend any money on it, didnt use farming methods, just played the game and enjoyed it!